What does Jow Forums think about pizza gate? I'm trying to figure out who to believe, but all I'm getting is mainstream news and we know not to trust them already.
All the right-wing sources I've found are vague and uncited, and I've found one video from Sargon of Akkad.
If any you Jow Forumstards have kids and believe pizzagate is real, I'd really like to hear from you specifically on how you see the world now.
So maybe this isn't a redpill to swallow, but instead a blackpill.
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it's called human compromise now
That's a good looking pizza
No one knows exactly. There's a ton of circumstantial evidence that the people involved were/are pedos molesting and killing kids, but no hard evidence. Multiple high ranking figures in America, in not just politics but sports and business have been actually convicted of sex crimes.
The term "pizzagate" is has too much variance in meaning between different people saying it, but for what it's worth I think pizzagate is real.
There's a good summary of the things people found/find suspicious on Voat. Google voat pizzagate summary.
It's real fucking simple. Alefantes' most closest to current statements regarding his reasons for innocence in PG do NOT match his previous statements regarding the details used for his reasons.
Compare his most current interview concerning it with what he said here
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I'll save you the reading too. The details I am referring to are concerning his most current statements about the basement and not having one. It's 3/4 of the way down the page
>MW: What was it they couldn’t believe you had made?
>ALEFANTIS: Well, we make everything from scratch. Other restaurants, even good restaurants, will, like, not roast their own peppers. You can just buy the roasted peppers in a can. Or you can buy garlic oil. Some products you can get, and they’re consistent and they’re easy. But I didn’t even know that existed actually until they said that. I was like, “What do you mean? There’s another way? You can just buy these things?” Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.
>Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.
This does not match his most up-to-date statements to the press.
what we know
>pedo symbol in logo
>weird sexual shit like the cum panda
>dude who owns it is a fag that looks creepy
what the media tried to make it
>hillary clinton and her weird creepy faggot aid rape/kill/eat kids on location at a pizza parlor
that's it. the redpill is that both "sides" are heavily into arms, drug, and human trafficking. the US is run by criminals and generally fucked up people.
Sex is overwhelming overrated...90% of Jow Forums threads are pedo/gay related
Pizzagate=Pedogate
Read the Pedowood pastebin and stop hashtagfagging, this is not twatter!
I believe there’s definitely something going on with pizzagate but he owns another restaurant nearby which has a basement, could’ve easily been talking about that.
Read the whole article and then reasess then because I think you're just going off of the part I included and using that as your entire basis for judgement.
Final black pill= this is how ((they)) feed the ayys loosh, it is how the garner favor with the dark, if only you knew how bad things are.
I’m just saying I’ve seen this basement quote thrown around as one of the top “gotcha” moments of pedogate when he has a restaurant called Buck’s close-by which has a basement. Plus he’s a PR guy, he could just be straight up bullshitting to make him and his restaurant sound better. There’s just better arguments out to be presented than this one.
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Nigger wtf? Buck's is not a restaurant. It's called Buck's Fishing and Camping. Why the fuck would he be storing roasted tomatoes there? THINK dammit. The fucking article for the metroweekly was done because of his success with Comet Ping Pong. Now what the fuck goes on pizzas? Tomato SAUCE. If you're saying this shit to try and protect yourself from the cold fucked up reality that it is, that's fine, I won't hold that against you. But don't-- Don't fucking sit there and propagandize your own self-justifications on the internet just so you can hide from the fucked up reality. That I will hold against you.
What’s this trying to show? I think pedogate is 100% real, just hate retards like you using shit, weak, long disproven arguments for it and making the whole scene look more embarrassing than it already is. There’s better evidence out there for it, read up so it can be taken more seriously for all of us please.
It's flat-earther territory
isn't that Trump's mentor or something?
Before the 60s
How can we make sure to have mutual assured destruction or complete control over someone we have groomed into power.
Get them drunk and get photos of them having gay sex.
Fast forward to today.
Same question. How could you assure complete control? Being gay, no one cares.
Lolita express... Clinton flying without secret service to a private island.... passenger manifestos show people with a single name like "Candy."
Sit down you complete retard. 4 ducking seconds to get pic related. This is the problem right here, stupid fucking monkeys like you who can’t even google let alone use minimal critical thinking. Fucking shameful.
indeed he was
If you unironically think they store TEN TONS of tomato sauce at a "restaurant" that isn't the location where the sauce is actually used, you're fucking retarded
>local produce meats and fishes
Alright, fine, it is a restaurant too, but you can't fucking blame me for my assumption based off it's name and the way he presents it in the article. Regardless though what you're proposing is still thematically not applicable. Hmmm, where does a jar of harvest tomatoes seem like they would be stored? In a restaurant concerning produce, meats, and fishes or a fucking PIZZA STORE?
Holy fucking shit. You're damage control. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt too. Die.
It’s a stupid fucking name for a very serious problem. It started with a pizza shop owned by a possible child trafficker but now has nothing to do with that and is still called pizzagate because the people doing the actual legwork in investigating are autistic and hate change.
>>hillary clinton and her weird creepy faggot aid rape/kill/eat kids on location at a pizza parlor
They unironically do faggot. There's way more than those three lines of greentext you fucking shill.
I saved some pics on this between 2016 to 2018, I'll post them here.
Also, I found this website a little while ago, which might be of help.
thepedogate.com
DISCLAIMER: I have not looked into this at all, so some of these things may be complete nonsense.
I’m on your side but fuck it. You guys are hopeless. is what what you should be looking into, things that can’t be easily explained away, not this stupid basement and tomatos shite that can be simply explained away by Alefantis with a number of excuses. He owns restaurants and owns multiple large buildings with basements and like I said before he could’ve been just bullshitting because he’s a fucking salesman and that’s what they do. But sure, keep focusing on little word games.
Here’s the thing. In the 80s the MSM was pushing “Witchcraft and Demon worship in Daycares” all because one author who wrote a fictional book on the idea of it.
Sure this happens in real life, and maybe it does occur with one or two day cares nationwide but it causes a panic that causes innocent people to get arrested.
Pizza Gate for me was never about pizza shops, but instead was about Lolita Island / Express and the ring of global elites who attended parties like the ones Epstein through that had underage kids working as sex slaves.
Also worth noting Jeff Epstein did barely anytime while they through 10 years at some YouTuber who is barely an adult for requesting twerking vids from underage girls.
Both are in the wrong but why did Jeff get a slap on the wrist for doing so much worse?
never seen this before wheres the pic on the right from
Friendly reminder pizzagate isnt about a fucking pizzaria run by an obvious demon, its about the syntax used in personal emails by extremely wealthy and affluently politically powered people. Super wealthy people hire personal chefs they dont EMAIL each other about a specific food which by and by showed no varience in context which only solidifies they spoke in code. The fbi provided the key to break said code words. The pizzaria was a bonus and only made is more obivious, the level of hubris and in plain view is astounding, we will never again be asleep to just how evil these demons truely are.
With the exception of what that user stated last, the rest of that has already been dug into. I find it interesting that you're trying to set up Jow Forums anons to go after another Clinton that will end up with just more frustration regarding political untouchability on a civilian level when this "little word game" is one of the few concrete things pinning down Alefantes at all legally. Salesmanship can't be just explained away as that in a court of law and regardless of Alefantes secret identity as a Rothschild, the public at large doesn't know this, so if enough people actually cared about this discrepancy Alefantes has made it's more likely that he would go down in flames than a Clinton would.
Here's the redpill take on pizzagate.
Podesta's leaked e-mails contained actual pedophile code where they call little girls pizza and little boys pasta. Then some people on Jow Forums dug up some creepy facts about democrats associated with Podesta, like his brother owning drawings of abused little girls. All of this was legit and brougt attention to some creepy shit.
Then boomers and Qanon useless shill types hijacked the story by obsessing about some kind of a pizza place, they started drawing pentagrams on maps by connecting building etc, just completely destroyed the image of pizzagate.
The real story is that media not only knew about Podesta, they covered for him. This is the same thing that happened with Jimmy Savile in the UK, the media knew about a pedophile and they covered for him.
I seriously doubt if they put people like that in Jail.
Like Anthony Wiener. He solicited sex from a minor, knowing that she was a minor. He got 1 year or so in "jail."
Him, Epstein, I am not sure they actually go to jail. I think they get house arrest at a ranch in the middle of no where, and we are told that they are in jail. I think they could roll over on a bunch of people. They either end up dead or bribed.
I haven't looked into it, but it seems to be security camera footage from Comet Ping Pong at night.
No you are right. They are fucking untouchable.
They just had to hide Anthony Wiener away for a few years and no one cares anymore.
Hell, they have been caught physically trafficking children from Haiti and arrested, only to be let out and continue to work.
Just found this
Then the guy broke in and shot the computer through a fucking closet door.
What a cohencidence
That's why I think it has to be someone the public doesn't already know of as important to be the one to take the initial fall. He's an unimportant enough Rothschild for them to cut him loose and let fry, and the way he looks, he'd probably give up everyone just to avoid taking full responsibility.
He fired one shot that magically hit the hard drive of a computer....
I mean holy fucking shit.
Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times.
Just if you are curious, canned goods typically come in 6x10lb boxes, 10 to a level, maybe 8 level high. 10 tons would be like 4 pallets of sauce.
Thanks everyone for the info! I'm going to go through all of this and anymore after this reply too.
Despite the media's coverage, I didn't think this was a tinfoil-hat-earth-flat-anti- vax conspiracy theory.
There are some thing on this page that might be of interest as well: knowyourmeme.com
Good luck in your research; and if you can spare the time, please do post your results here!
> it's been debunked
I keep hearing this, especially after the shooter episode except that I never saw anything debunked.
Shills also claimed there was no basement where there actually was a basement.
Too bad the place burned down
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Police already had police tape up for the perp walk.
The shooter Edgar Welch has a IMDB page. Appearing in "The Bleeding" 2009
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Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times.
Came here to post this
Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times.
Consider suicide
Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times.
I think it's real simply because of the weird shit no one needed to lie about being lied about.
"We don't have a basement!"
Older article talks about basement in building where they keep things.
"Nothing weird is going on we're a family establishment."
Host weird degenerate band that has weird creepy shit going on including pedo commentary and art posted.
"No really we swear you're just crazy" Continued weird social media posts/pictures from the establishment.
"Some conspiracy theorist guy just came in riled up with a gun!"
Security cameras were aimed differently on that exact day to better look at the dude, dude was an IMDB listed actor, and he only fired one round.... into a computer as if he knew exactly where it was, and if he was a conspiracy guy and was ready to go in there armed and get arrested for his suspicions... Why didn't stick around to make demands? Make them lead him to various doors, structures, rooms etc. of interest by gunpoint? Or just do the bog standard thing of going murder crazy if he was so "crazy?"
So in total- we have schrodinger's basement, A fucked up degenerate band that has dildos and shit wailing about and often buck ass naked performing at a family pizza place that says weird pedo shit with weird pedo art and weird sexually loaded pedo art/social media posts that no ordinary human being would make, one crazed gunman who decided that putting a bullet in a computer was good enough and he got shy and turned himself in after that.
You have to be -actually- retarded to not think something is up.
It is interesting to research the Wayback Machine and find pizza restaurants with extensive charity donation websites before it went down
Nice source faggot
A.I. bot?
All identical posts -
"Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times."
Likely
I didn't know that. Funny though, no need for infograph, this shits on his wiki page.
Pizzagate has been debunked multiple times.
I am just a humble boomer, but I think the bots that come out of the wood work to say "debunked" are about gaming the search algorithms.
The best thing we can do is make more noise linking pizzagate to the Franklin Coverup, Jeffery Epstein, NXIVM, Dutroux, and how the "pizza" comes from the pedo code not one specific pizza parlor.
Oy vey
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states how his info about a CIA kidnapping ring is just ignored, and how the childs are used for sacrifices
this is coming from this guy
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>Theodore L. Gunderson (November 7, 1928 – July 31, 2011) was an American Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent In Charge and head of the Los Angeles FBI.
Bill admits hillary speaks with the dead
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>With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . . .
>chicken
>moloch
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>Moloch (Phoenician: 𐤌𐤋𐤊, Masoretic מֹלֶךְ mōlek, Greek Μολόχ) is the biblical name of a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice.
>moloch
>childsacrifices
pic related from alefantis instagram
>#chickenlover
>no chicken in sight
>just a kid
man, i really wonder what was sacrificed there. its undeniable that (((they))) are communing with evil spirits
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around 5:50 Nora Maccoby talks about her growing up in an almost all CIA neighborhood making it very likely her family is involved in that as well.
Izette Folger Sister of Max and Nora Maccobie
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> children: Anne Maccoby Berglof, Izette Folger, Nora Maccoby Hathaway, Max Maccoby.
She is also at on the Advisory board of Innocent at Risk which is an organisation to "fight" child eploitation and human trafficing
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Max Maccoby brother of Nora Maccoby and Izette Folger, defended in Alefantis and Brock in court
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and is on the board of directors of "Friends of the Orphans"
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Furthermore the "Friends of the Orphans" orphanage is the very same orphanage Laura Silsby took the children from when she was caught with 33 of them (pic related for more on this)
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>PUELLO: There was an orphanage that collapsed in Haiti. It was called friends of the orphans of Haiti. And there was somebody over there that told them that the orphans had no place, no room to place them.
tl;dr: this family with CIA background and connection to Alefantis have an awfull lot of connections to Childprotectionservices including the orphanage that Silsby got the children from. Silsby was also scrubbed from the AlertSense website so you dont see her working there anymore. really makes you think
Puello is a name that also came up as culprit in a recent Child trafficking busts, but is appearently another person. Maybe related?
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Brian Stezler says its a conspiracy theory. There's no elite pedos. It's all in your imagination.
Regarding Silsby being scrubbed from the web. Laura Silsby is no longer found on the AlertSense website. She used to be on the website with pic and name (as Laura Gayler though), but they restructured the website and now she is gone.
For those that dont know, she was caught smuggling out 33 (interesting number by the way) out of haiti after an earthquake, most of which werent even orphans. She then was spoken guilty but only sat the 6 months she awaited trial and was set free afterwards and then went to AlertSense which provides technology to AmberAlert which is a warning system of the government for the case of, ie., children dissappearing.
Furthermore they also scrapped her work at AlertSense from the Wikipedia article. While
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>Silsby and Hammons worked together at Hewlett-Packard.[24] Silsby-Gayler became associated with MyStateUSA an Idaho corporation based Meridian Idaho in 2010 [30]. MyStateUSA CEO, Claudia Bitner, founder of MySateUSA appointed Silsby-Gayler the CFO and corporate secretary in 2011(30). MyStateUSA changed its name to AlertSense [31]
you dont find anything any more at the current article
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Also Pizzagate wiki was (((shut down)))
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Multiple times!!!?
In that case I will go ahead and turn my brain off.
I wonder if AI understands sarcasm at all?
I will ask.
[citation needed]
Im not AI nigger, just a rational person that has no need to indulge in wild conspiracy fantasies because I lead a stable productive life unlike you basement dwelling pigs
Those pedo paintings the brothers owns disturbed the fuck out of me when I first saw it. Couldnt sleep well because of it
just a normal party at comet pizza
tried to upload the video but its kinda blocked. kek
Either way you are completely mindless.
Enjoy your stable productive life!
>rational
[citation needed]
I'll redpill you OP, but only if you reply to this post saying you are ready. I'm not going to waste my time posting the data unless you are still here.
>Roy Cohn- human compromis(...).jpg
Jow Forums very accurately and correctly identified a code word being used. Then flew off the handle and instantly assumed it was pedophilia with no evidence to support it and only had /x/ tier responses such as "HAHA THEY ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO IT SO ITS PROOF THAT IT MUST BE PEDOPHILIA"
Whatcha doing rabbi
Pic related is the screen of Viacom on Timesquare. If you didnt hear about this company it owns various TV channels like MTV, CBS with the all seeing eye, Viva with the 2 sets of opposing Vs (similar to the seal of saturn/star of "david", encoding the 666 will provide it in a bit). Comedy Central (CC/33) and for us most importantly Nickelodeon (the orange colour being a good additional hint to masonry and Viacom), Like Disney they also feature a lot of Childstars.
The boy you see on the screen is Desmond Napoles, 10 year old drag queen and icon of the LGBT community. Of course pushing ones degeneracy upon a kid (according to the mother he decided on his own at the age of 2 to be a Drag Queen when he first saw them on TV...) is not enough. Look at the spiral that they had to put on his head giving again the pedosymbolisn. Coincidently sexual abuse is related to satanic abuse as well as MKUltra as well as drugs which desmond seemingly gets too
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In the video you see one of them trying to give Desmond something, to which the other says "He had one of those already" so probably nothing normal to drink.
Here is all I have on MKUltra and similar stuff
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desmondisamazing.com
>Desmond’s personal drag style has evolved over the years. Currently, he is most influenced by the colorful club kids of 1990s NYC nightlife
So what is Clube kids?
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>During this time, Alig and other regular clubgoers began creating flamboyant personas, and later became known as "Club Kids". The Club Kids wore outrageous costumes that former Club Kid and celebutante James St. James later described as "part drag, part clown, part infantilism".[9] They were also known for their frequent use of ketamine (known as Special K), Ecstasy, Rohypnol, heroin, and cocaine.
However this isnt where it ends...
And one of the guys in that vid is appearently Michael Alig himself (as an autist im naturally faceblind, so look yourself if its the same guy)
>After The Limelight was closed by federal agents and an investigation found that Gatien was allowing drugs to be sold there, Melendez was fired. Shortly thereafter, he moved into Alig's Riverbank West apartment[18][19] On the night of March 17, 1996, Alig and his roommate, Robert D. "Freeze" Riggs, murdered Melendez after an argument in Alig's apartment over many things, including a long-standing drug debt.[20] Alig has claimed many times that he was so high on drugs that his memory of the events is unclear.
>After Melendez's death, Alig and Riggs did not know what to do with the body. They initially left it in the bathtub, which they filled with ice. After a few days, the body began to decompose and became malodorous. After discussing what to do with Melendez's body and who should do it, Riggs went to Macy's to buy knives and a box. In exchange for 10 bags of heroin, Alig agreed to dismember Melendez's body. He cut the legs off, put them in a garbage bag, cut off the head and put it in another bag, and stuffed the rest into a box. Afterwards, he and Riggs threw the box into the Hudson River.[21]
This is who the parents led roam around their child.
Also back to Viacom
The guy in the pic is Dan Schneider, producer for various shows on Nickelodeon. And here he is with Jennette McCurdy, actress from iCarly who you can also see here
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>Hey Dan Schneider [...] Look what you have done to me
Is him getting too obvious the reason Nickelodeon recently axed him?
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CPP (((Shooter))) was an obvious false flag
/www.wbtv.com/story/33467722/13-year-old-struck-by-vehicle-in-salisbury-airlifted-to-hospital
he ran over a kid before and was left of without any charges. he had a debt to pay and the false flag was the payment.
also his father is an actor
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as well as he himself seems to be too, or at least in the movie business
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and he lived in Haiti
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this all hints towards the connections to the higher ups. they didnt just choose some random guy
also the trafficcam shows there was prior knowledge to this incident and they made sure no footage will be found
>>dude who owns it is a fag that looks creepy
He also used the same lawyer whos family has CIA connections as well as was running the orphanage silsby stole 33 children from in haiti >ayys
Demons and fallen angels mate. Why would some spacefags want children killed in their name? Makes sense for demons and the likes though
Another branch that works with child stars:
Disney has club 33, I repeat, thirty-three, like the masons favorite number showing the connection to those guy. Remember all the popular MKUltrad teeny stars coming from Disney. And how are people MKUltrad? They are tortured and abused until the personality breaks, and creates new personalities to cope with the thing to protect itself at which point the new personality/personalities can be shaped. They probably use some drugs to enhance the effect while also building in a trigger to bring the desired personality to the front. Like giving them some certain shirt before the abuse starts or whatever. And since those kids have to be groomed/abused to be superstars you can be sure they think they can not only create the next superstar willing to promote their agenda, but also give all the pedophilic elites some fun time by letting them do abuse the kids. quit pro quo
no coincidences so many of their stars have some mental collapse later in their career.
a week after pic related was released FBI released the pedosymbols by the way. any chance someone got pissed?
also note: A bear, fat hairy faggot, snuggling with a barely clothed young boy
furthermore orange is the only colour that adds to 33 in (Pythagorean) Gematria.
>pizza bad
I think you're a Jew.
Guys, have you heard of BagelGate?
shame on you
>Celtic Circles
I fell for this awhile. Now I believe it's a Jewish operation to us "Celtic" symbols in order to cover up their own Jewish boy loving. It's the classic Jewish trick.
>Blame your enemies for the crimes you do.
>Use your enemies symbols
>Make accusations of sex stuff
Literally, the a-typical Jewish attack for the past 3,000 years.
>shame on you
Just more proof this entire thing is infested with Jews. It took a total of 2 minutes for a Jew to respond to my post. Tells you everything you need to know.
indeed
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I think it is a mix. For example the jewstar symbolizes the unification of male and female, similar to yin and yang. The triangle pointing up is the male part as the symbol means boylover.
Additionally around the area its said the root chakra is located is also the anus.
The kundalini, the chakra energy is said to lay dormant coiled into itself at the bottom of the spine, like the triangle spiral.
The root chakra is about the survival instincts, similar to the reptillian brain being responsible for the tasks. By putting one into s perpetual state of fear you can controll people, and i think this is part of the reason why the sodomy is used in satanic abuse, as a sort of mindcontrol trapping the victim in a state of anxiety you can then use, the same reason while rape is used in prison to make people your bitch and possibly why rape in general is so traumatizing
derail status: unsuccessful
>discussing possible origin of the symbols pedos use is derailing
While we are at meaning, regarding your pic
the fingers are associated with planets . the middlefinger for example is associated with saturn which may gives relation to pic related making it a bloodsacrifice to saturn.
on a side note, the ringfinger is the sun finger, the sun, being a symbol for God and the finger also associated with courage and passion. I believe rings and circles are meant to seal something away, and the ring at marriage is never mentioned in the bible and likely is a ploy to corrupt it, and who would have known, after the marriage passion and courage dies off just killing the marriage.
Meghan Markle being the newest initiate, pic related