The US may have 30 million illegal migrants

Why not just introduce a system to count every non-citizen? What’s so bad about knowing who is in your country? We do it, you can’t even rent an apartment or get a job or open a bank account without registering with the local authorities here.

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le the U.S. government and several outside groups have put the number of undocumented migrants at about 11 million or 12 million, the paper issued Friday by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Yale University gives a “conservative estimate” of 16.7 million in 2016, with an average simulation of 22.1 million.


“Our results lead us to the conclusion that the widely accepted estimate of 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the United States is too small,” wrote MIT’s Mohammad Fazel-Zarandi and Jonathan Feinstein and Edward Kaplan of Yale. “Our model estimates indicate that the true number is likely to be larger, with an estimated 95 percent probability interval ranging from 16.2 to 29.5 million undocumented immigrants.”

That comes close to Donald Trump’s assertion during the presidential campaign that the real figure could be as high as 30 million. Having the new numbers in a study from academics at two of the nation’s most prestigious universities may offer Trump and other immigration critics ammunition on an issue that helped him ride to election victory in 2016.

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>Why not just introduce a system to count every non-citizen?
That would be racist

Every economic migrant your woman hitler has invited in is also an illegal

Come on, Bernd. We got our share of undocumented illigal immigrants over here too. Thanks to semi-open EU borders and landlords willing to rent out for cash. Same problem, thankfully on a much smaller scale.

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Giving this a second thought, I think abolishing cash money would solve a lot of problems with illegal immigration and the black market and people getting employed off the records and never paying taxes. What do you think?

>30 million
So they've finally given up on the 11 million figure. It's easily >45 million.

Yes just allow private companies all the power over peoples finances, what could possibly go wrong

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I don’t think it is racist to count and register everyone regardless of race.

That's the leftist argument to it and you know it

I doubt we have a single illegal immigrant. There is no benefit to not registering with authorities and you can’t really do any normal living or working or doing anything without registering.

You don’t need to outlaw cash. Really, you don’t. You can easily just ask people to be registered with authorities when they rent or buy housing, start jobs, start schooling or at university, open a bank account, a gym membership or buy a bus or subway ticket.

I don’t think it is an argument at all, desu.

Yes but calling it a non-argument isn't going to convince leftists. They are fucking racist just like stormfags except they are mainstream

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>May have
It's a fact that 39 million social security numbers were stolen by illegal aliens

Those are just the stolen numbers. That doesn't include all the people that wouldn't steal them.

>I doubt we have a single illegal immigrant.
Gyppos. Sub Saharan niggers. And so on. You're stupid. Many of them don't register because they can stay off the grid in their "networks" and just deal drugs or commit other petty crimes while sleeping in dirty appartments with 10+ guys and only 1 of them is a registered asylum seeker. Geez, in what kind of cozy pink bubble do you live in? Are you just young and sheltered away from one of the big cities, or completely retarded and brainwashed? Sorry for asking so many questions...

We already have fucking laws that require us to have a physical address just to get a driver's license or bank account etc etc. The last thing we need is more draconian laws to track every single shit we take just because MUH ILLEGALS or MUH TERRORISTS. These laws have nothing to do with controlling either of those groups because the govt is so corrupt in places that these people can roam freely. It only hurts people who try to abide by the laws. This is why you have so many people going off-grid these days. It is pathetic.

>Many of them don't register because they can stay off the grid in their "networks" and just deal drugs or commit other petty crimes

Why forego money, healthcare, free housing etc.? It’s not like they would ever get deported and if they are threatened with deportation, they can change their name and move elsewhere in Germany and apply for asylum anew with a new passport.

Being an unregistered illegal in Germany is completely idiotic. You would just forego around 1000 euros in cash, housing, meds etc. for no good reason.

I have a US social security number. I worked in the US.

I don’t think you can SSNs for calculating illegals. If I overstayed my visa and were still in the US, how would my SSN be able to count me?

>I doubt we have a single illegal immigrant
That's some bait

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So what to do about the 30 million illegals? Every 10th person in your country should be detained.

>Being an unregistered illegal in Germany is completely idiotic.
It is, but think about their average IQ.

It’s not. I explained it here Aus Sicht von Arbeitsmarktforschern wird sich aber ohne gezielte Zuwanderung aus Drittstaaten der künftige Arbeitskräftebedarf nicht decken lassen. Nach einer Projektion des IAB wird das Arbeitskräfteangebot in Deutschland bis 2060 von heute rund 45 Millionen auf unter 40 Millionen sinken, wenn die Nettozuwanderung im Bereich des langjährigen Durchschnitts von rund 200.000 Personen verharrt. Um es auf dem heutigen Niveau zu halten, müssten jährlich 400.000 Menschen mehr zu- als abwandern.

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Because the Dems want spic votes so they block common sense laws that would keep out their voter's family members.

>I doubt we have a single illegal immigrant.
>Germany
Sure thing hans

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They been using the 11 million number since the mid 1990s. Always found that strange

Their bosses and buddies would immediately tell them to register to get more money. They understand money.

Single illegal UNDOCUMENTED immigrant.

Think about it this way, if every illegal in the US would get free housing, 500 bucks a month, platinum plated healthcare, free English courses, food aid etc. without any obligations or problems, how many would say “fuck it! I don’t want all these free gibmees! I rather live on the street because undocumented I can’t get an apartment, job, bank account, credit card... anything really!”

They want to put that on census in 2020. Spics will be too afraid to check non-legal citizen that they will not report on the census and thus in the electoral college California will lose 1/3 of votes Tx, NY, IL, and FL losing a lot of electoral votes as well.
And it might keep illegals from voting. Surveys have shown 8-20% of illegals are voting.

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Start from the top down instead of the bottom up. Toss out all of the politicians and judges/cops/etc until you get the swamp drained. Anything else is a waste of time.

Disgusting

11 is an occult moloch worhsipping number

9/11
311
11:11

etc

Demographics of US:

1950: 90% White
1990: 85% White
2019: 40% White

100 million Latinos
60 million Africans (includes Haitians/Jamaicans)
30 million Asians
20 million Multiracial
10 million Middle Easterners
10 million Jews
1 million Gypsies

= 230 million in US

Racism is good and necessary to safeguard against thread to flourishing. You should know that, you inbred kike.

>> 8-20% of illegals voting
This coincides with Hillary winning the "popular vote" by 3 million.
30 million illegals, 20% voted. Kek
In all seriousness though, the Democrats know about it and that's why they push for more and more illegals. Obviously they have to try and abolish EC, (which they will do using dirty tricks, because they don't have enough support to do it the right way), so then they can have the popular vote advantage and never lose elections.

It's going to cost them their lives though they're too short sighted to realize it.

If the do it, as they've been doing it with the individual states the majority of people won't know it and won't care. I mean like 7 states (if I remember correctly) have bills introduced to grant their representatives to the person who won the popular vote on the country level. That's a huge step and I don't see anyone trying to protest it, not even small protest in these States. I highly doubt that there will be a country wide uproar about it.
Don't get me wrong: I would love to see the people actually care, but they don't.

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Nobody does any of that already, criminals just exploits the gift of women's rights and get fat bitches to do all that and use their names for cars and houses. Good luck with that lmao

Lincoln dicked us with that stupid birthright citizenship amendment.

I think the 14th amendment citizenship clause was drafted by Jacob Merritt Howard.

During the debate over the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, Howard argued for including the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof:"

...[E]very person born within the limits of the United State, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person.[9]

Howard clarified his statement during the original congressional debate over the amendment describing the clause as having the same content, despite different wording, as the earlier Civil Rights Act of 1866, namely, that it excludes Native Americans who maintain their tribal ties and certain other persons.

According to historian Glenn W. LaFantasie of Western Kentucky University, "A good number of his fellow senators supported his view of the citizenship clause." Senator Reverdy Johnson said in the debate:

Now, all this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered as citizens of the United States ... If there are to be citizens of the United States entitled everywhere to the character of citizens of the United States, there should be some certain definition of what citizenship is, what has created the character of citizen as between himself and the United States, and the amendment says citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.

It's 50M to 100M
Last year but what is it now?

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Don't believe your lying eyes right wing racist asshole

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everyone already knows this and you can double whatever some liberal college estimates. realistically we probably have 35 million illegals with half of them in California alone and the rest spread everywhere else.

good thing we have all those fema camps available. I wonder how much it would cost to add a few or 10 gas chambers to them.

30 million? Try 60 million.

>eliminate cash

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part 2. Both sides know it. But it would hurt muh farmers too. A solid GOP voting block, the owners, and the white workers/managers, who would not like to lose their slaves.

I've been to a couple diary farms with spic trailers in the back and even tried to speak with these spics who cannot into english. Some burger farmers have no shame.

Remember farmers are poor and great at financial decisions. Buying a new F-350 every year is sound financial planning for personal use(depsite the company paying for it).

This

Kek. That nigger is going to raise and kill her when he's 13

He will do nothing wrong