Nofap - Placebo bullshit or helpful?

Hey Jow Forums.

Is nofap just a meme or does it genuinely help? Has anyone here tried it and gotten results?

I have found myself to be quite unmotivated, lazy, and a bit depressed lately, but I'm not sure if there is a correlation between that snd my daily masturbation habits
I mean, men are meant to ejaculate, right? I have a hard time believing using a bodily function can be harmful to you.

So, is nofap bullshit or not?

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Fapping is good for you, goy, you should up your habit to 2-3 times a day if possible

Get a real job dataminer

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Day 35. It rocks.

Masturbation is normal, in moderation

Masturbating to porn is not normal, in any moderation

Watching porn is not normal

Porn is not normal

Masturbation is alright

I can tell you but you will think I am lying. Just try it. You won't. You are weak

The ejaculation itself is fine but using your own hand to do it is what fucks you up. It literally wires your brain to have porn/your hand be what makes it hard instead of seeing/touching a naked woman in real life. The best thing for you is to not jack off but still cum through actual fucking.

>I have a hard time believing using a bodily function can be harmful to you
It's overuse and addiction that's the problem. Jacking off once a week or whatever does no harm, but making a habit of it will condition you to bad sexual habits.
>my daily masturbation habits
Doing it daily will also have an effect on your drive and energy. Try going a week without masturbating and then see how you feel, and then extend that time little by little. Nofap's not a superpower or anything, but daily masturbation for the sake of it is harmful

Major placebo. Absolutely no difference between fapping and sex, in terms of brain chemistry.

It's the same as if you decided to clean up your diet. The fact you're exercising self control may improve other aspects of your life, but it's not magic

> Masturbation is normal,
Wasting your seed is not normal. Retard.

I had 3 nofap streaks all between 20 and 45 days:

And my experience is:

>More energy
>more motivation
>way less brainfog
>lessens depression

BUT:
>sleeplessness
>an unbearable sexual urge 80% of the day (it was like starving)

which meant for me that my overall quality of life was equally as shit as before so I gave up on it.

just try it out, if it works for you, great. if it doesn't, you're no worse off. even placebo is a powerful thing, so maybe this will be the stupid thing to get you exercising/studying/etc. Not fapping in and of itself will not fix anything, it's what it (supposedly) motivates you to do in place of fapping that will help change your life

You can't accomplish a whole lot in the 15 minutes or so it takes to fap

Let's ignore spirituality, because that argument is easily stopped with "I don't believe in X". Let's look at it psychologically. I don't mean meme sciences like "you're making yourself a cuck" or "you turn gay from looking at dicks." I mean factual science.

If you masturbate, you're giving yourself an easy way to release. You're conditioning yourself to settle, and tricking yourself into believing you don't need a woman to be happy. NoFap is supposed to help you realize that the real best things in life don't come quickly and freely. You've got to work for them.

True lovemaking is leagues better than masturbating. Don't settle for Applebee's when you can eat at Ruth Chris.

Fapping is for losers. If you aren't having sex than you don't deserve an orgasm. If you disagree with this it's because you're a fucking lazy piece of shit who would rather pleasure himself then wake up to the reality that in an alternate universe you are sticking your penis in your dream girl but in this one your masturbating, alone, in your room, watching other men fuck, like a complete faggot.

fite me

I am a week in and I'm going crazy. Sometimes I feel angry sometimes I feel desperation to cuddle and love a beautiful girl. I want to jizz but know not to. I am trying to attack it with my anger.
I must do the Hitler ritual again. That may help too. Brothers, give me me your digits so that I may succeed. It will help you succeed as well.

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You're a fucking retard for thinking repressing your sexual energy is a good thing. Masturbation is part of human nature.

The real solution is to wank once every 3-7 days, no-fap makes you ungodly horny.

Masturbating is fine as long as you're not jacking it to porn. When I say "Porn" I mean you're watching other people have sex. Jacking it to just a hot girls in a playboy magazine is fine in my view. Generally masturbating once a week is enough. If I need extra energy and drive I won't jack it for a month.

In my experience, it's not been a placebo at all, as I got the effects from a streak once long before I knew about nofap. Nofap is ideal, masturbation is ok in moderation, but porn is terrible.

I've been porn free since New Years, and this time it's the real deal, it's really behind me for good this time. I quit because I had erectile dysfunction beginning in 2015, at age 21, and after a month without porn, my penis gradually started to return to normal, but it also came with months of crippling depression coming from the realization of how long I had avoided women because of my fear of not being able to get it up. The depression was horrible because all I could think about was how I wasted my prime years and how my self confidence was utterly destroyed to the point that I still couldn't talk to girls even after my boners came back. Seeing girls outside that felt unobtainable was torture, and the urge to relapse was every night.

Then, once I started getting boners so hard they hurt every morning, I started going to prostitutes who looked like my favorite porn star, and now my attachment to porn, fear of women, and depression are all gone.

You can all be bloomers too.

It’s Ruth’s Chris plebeian.
Anyway: Do you have trouble getting it up for love making or something? I can both fap and make love to my wife.
It a normal human thing.

>purity
Wasn’t hitler strung out on all sorts of substances?

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Yes, nofap works. No I don't masturbate ever. It increases willpower tremendously. Increasing your willpower is fucking everything.

Fuck no it's not placebo it's 100% right and don't ever jerk off again or look at porn ever again. I'm dead serious. It's all fucking poison. You can't tell yet b/c it's still poisoning your mind.

>Masturbation is normal, in moderation
Fuck. No. Gtfo.

Don't. Go back to it. Push through and you'll attract a super high quality woman.

Dude I was having sex with a girl last week and I literally was getting bored in the middle of it and just wanted her to leave. But I can watch porn and bust a nut just fine. Can this shit even be fixed?

It doesn’t work for jews, that’s why you’ve had no results OP. Not fapping just makes your type want to fuck your own mothers even more than usual

I mean vomiting is a natural bodily function but bulimia isn't healthy.

Every world leader was and is.

You'reprobably just of low IQ, stock,ect. What's your racial background btw? It might explain why you're supposedly worthless.

Everything in moderation.

Literally if you do not fap, your body will for you, in the form of wet dreams. science says your test. levels jump exponentially after like a week of nofap. like 150% or some shit. whether or not that is beneficial is up for debate.

Personally it's nice to be able to perform better in bed with a woman if i haven't gone in a couple days.

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My longest no fap streak was like 1.5 months, literally nothing changed. After the first week I did feel a bump in aggression, but it died off after the second week. My dick even when soft was hard as a knob. But no it didn't make me more ambitious or assertive, and women didnt "smell" it on me. So I went back to beat off to porn. At first just regular shit, milfs and stuff. Then it started to get degenerate again, shemales. And it got even worse than that but I stopped again.

>meth, just in moderation bro.

Seriously fuck off with your literal retard logic.

Read Bronze Age Mindset on this subject, I believe BAP is on to something that others haven't thought of

>normally humans use their energy in their youth to conquer space and territory, compete for survival
>when this is accomplished, the energy must be expended in other ways
>because they have now conquered space, they find a mate and channel that energy into sex, creating strong offspring. This is why people are said to be 'drained' after sex, it's a massive outpouring of energy
>the problem now is that ALL space is owned, there's nothing out there left to conquer
>as such, similar to how chimps only masturbate in captivity, we are now trying to expend that energy, and masturbation is the default outlet for men with no gf
>ultimately the problem is that our society precludes any opportunity to unleash this energy to conquer space
>nofap is a cargo cult to try and recapture this. It may have some success, but is ultimately missing the point
>it also relies on repression, which is doomed to failure. You need to want to give birth to a superior being that does not need to masturbate or commit degenerate acts because he has discipline and higher goals on which to spend that energy

BAP is silly but he genuinely gets it imo

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Me personally - it helps a lot. I occasionally jerk off (like two months apart) but I don’t even watch porn, maybe just look at a pretty face or something. I’d say no porn is an excellent start, especially because it desensitizes you to reality and you start liking weirder and weirder stuff to satiate an addiction.

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Nofap has cured my heterosexuality.

Super helpful. Anyone who says it isn't is a shill.

Idk about superpowers or placebo or coincidence but I had a 3 week streak which was my longest ever and met a great girl that I'm dating now. For some reason not masturbating seems to lower my sex drive and masturbating daily or every other day increases it though

Hey poo friend, does it make you give a shit about irl girls again?

>jerking your dick off and orgasming is totally normal if you’re an animal or a nigger
Remember the Holiest of Holy's is avoiding orgasm and degenerate sex. The “forbidden fruit” in the Bible is the sexual orgasm.

No need to fap if you aren't a faggot and can get a gf.
In all seriousness tho I have been addicted to porn for some time and after i managed to slowly control and then finally get rid of it I felt so much better. Porn traps your mind into this alternative reality where it seems you have everything but in reality you are an incel that doesn't get out of your room. Anyway, I have a gf now and can get sexual pleasure with her which feels much better, I really recommend everyone to distance from the degenerate industry that porn is and the fantasies of masturbation and try their best to get a nice girl to spend their life with

You're talking about vices. yes. correct, my dear faggot. even meth, but that is a drug that is not easy to control. drinking is much better, with less side effects. weak minded people can't keep it in moderation though.
wait sorry, people with "a disease" can't keep it in moderation.

I can't tell you how many times vices have created friendships, or gotten me laid. continue living your gay boring life, fag.

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Fuck you faggots stop trying to make me feel as if I have a problem

Nothing needs to be fixed, women are outdated. Now there's really good sex toys and unlimited amounts of porn at your disposal. Think of vhs being replaced by dvds or anything being replaced by something better.

anyone else get gay thoughts when they do no fap?

ITS CIA FBI NSA TELLING YOU TO NOT USE YOUR NUTS FOR A WORLD WAR IS COMING AND DURING WAR YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO TOUCH YOUR DICK AND BALLS.
ONCE YOU GO INVADE NATIONS YOUR DICK WILL CRAVE PUSSY AND THEREFOR BE USED TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY OF YOUR ENEMIES WITH ESCORTS AND PORNO AND THEN FINALLY RAPE OF YOUR ENEMIES COUNTRIES.

ITS NOT FUCKING HARD TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND IF YOU DON'T SEE IT YOUR A RETARD OR COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF USING YOUR BRAIN

YOU HAVE A PROBLEM

don’t jack off
wait for nocturnal emissions and you will get to fuck a qt in your dreams
make sure to clean your sheets though

lets just say when you're at the point where the only way to get off is watching a 55 year old woman get railed, or a dude in a wig and panties get his ass eaten out by another dude, you have a serious problem. Many reasons why i'm a 28 year old incel but this is the main one.

Huge difference between a hand and a female full of pheromones, even a heart beat is different

Why is porn free ? Think about it. Now researcg Mindgeek, a society that controls 90% of porn traffic.
DO NOT WATCH PORN

Apparently semen retention is a thing and your body does reabsorb unused quantities. Learn something new on here who would have thunk

no u

>start liking weirder and weirder shit

Yep. I literally found myself jerking off watching princess Leia getting repeatedly raped by Jabba the Hut and it was suddenly like FUCK THIS SHIT. I unironically puked and shit my guts out all that night (maybe food poisoning but who know) and haven’t looked at porn since. Porn is fucking over a whole generation of men (and women!)

And if you saw me on the street you would never guess. I’m sure a lot of regular looking guys with good options have let themselves be brainfucked by porn to an astounding degree

I cant vouch for the long game but I can tell you this. Masturbation can become a chronic habit and an addiction, and porn can destroy your life.

When I find myself alone and idle I am often almost overwhelmed with the urge to watch porn and jack off. When I do I am drained of energy after the hormone rush and anything else id planned goes out the window. Bye bye workout, bye bye productivity, hello laying on the couch jacking it.

This has almost cost me my job as I will rub one out and then wake up without vigor and suck at my projects.

On the other hand, when I go a week without fapping, I feel energetic and upbeat because I am retaining my energy and preserving my brainpower, and I get all sorts of shit done. Sex is also better and my affection for my wife.

I need to go for a month and see what happens next.

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nofap is placebo bullshit that is helpful

Day 30 here and I'm starting to really lust after women I see out in public. It feels good because I haven't felt that so much since I was in high school. Porn desensitizes you to real women and gives you ED.

I waste so much time edging

Epilogue

Since I quit porn I get totally aroused by things like a cute woman in a tight sweater or a quick sight of some yoga pants at the gym. Porn had me getting off to shemale gangbangs and bukake

i've only taken a couple of weeks at a time off, maybe five times in my life, but my results were similar to yours. just a hell of a lot more fucking energy. i can't just lie there - i gotta get up and do something.

if you've gone a whole month without busting a nut and still arent getting laid, what is the point. That is like eating healthy for a month and not losing a point, might as well eat shit that tastes good. how i view it.

>I started going to prostitutes
Is this supposed to be a success story?

It usually takes 90 days for people to go back to a normal functioning brain. During that time you go through periods of having no libido as your brain rewires itself.

I don't think it particularly matter either way. If you feel better, then that's good enough. I've never bought into the "super powers" bullshit, but I feel stronger and just generally better if I don't wank. If I jack off, I feel drained and unconfident for like 36 hours. It wasn't like that when I was younger.
Went through a stage where I did this a lot too, but it was fucking with my nuts. I couldn't cum properly for a while.

BAP is unironically a faggot

Been fap free since second or third week of January. Only changes I’ve noticed is porn,thick asses and slutty dressed women seem disgusting now

Yeah. His personal physician basically poisoned him by making him take over 40 different drugs every day.
Check out this doc on it.
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There is 0 scientific evidence of humans having pheromones, that's complete bro science

Yeah you stupid nigger. You have to start somewhere. I have nailed a few thots while traveling since then. The only thing keeping many incels as incel is that they are terrified of women. Once you've been inside 20 of them, you just don't have that anymore. Quit trying to subvert the path to recovery for incels you fucking kike nigger

Cutting sugar from your diet is a lot more effective for your libido/testosterone.

Just masturbate every once in a while,it's good for your prostate health if you aren't getting any action.

Why dont you just live it and see for yourself. No amount of testimony will make it a fact. This coming from a nigga who has been nofap for 452 days

hes gay, but not a faggot. Gays are the conservative version of homosexuals, faggots are the left wing version. Nothing wrong the gays, only people in this world that actually love and appreciate men for who they are.

Nofap is a total meme. Wanting to be dead made me lose my interest in fapping and no positive change in my life has come out of this 6 month no fap streak.
The only decent thing that has come from it is that I can crush diamonds with my morning wood right now, literally the only reason I get up any more.

Blowing sooner=performing better
?

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Learn to kegel weakling

You aren't supposed to repress it. You are supposed to embrace the sexual energy and not waste it.

Not watching porn is the path forward.

Not masturbating for me has had a net negative impact because I spend so much time / effort going out to meet girls on dates to get laid.

I am considering returning to masturbating. But I will never return to watching porn.

T. Year 3 no porner month 4 no masturbator

The trick is to masterbate without nutting. It’s the best of both worlds. You get to enjoy your handpussy but at the same time builds up your jizz-strength....my workouts at the gym are way more intense now.

I really shouldn't have to say this but:

Moderation.

If you jack off once a week you are fine. If you are polishing your knob 2 to 3 times a day you are in a bad habit. There is some research on this but not really a whole lot. The most effect you will get from not masturbating is a testosterone increase that plateaus at a week. Going for a long time w/o masturbating can increase the chance for prostate cancer by a good bit but I honestly wouldn't worry. I also hear people saying "You'll get erectile dysfunction if you do this!" you won't. Nor will your dick shrink. Not jacking off won't do much of anything (half the shit I've heard on that nofap stuff is either factually false or highly unfounded) but jacking off everyday is not a good habit to have.

Keep yourself at a happy medium like most things in life. Do your research, find what is the right balance of healthy and enjoyable.

I am fapping mostly on Wed. when I have home office day.

do you really think you can beat the shit out of your meat all day long and be rendered with no physical or physiological consequences? do you really think you can consume all those hours and hours of deranged and degenerate and all around fucked up pornography and be left with a brain that's unphased or unwarped?

NoFap is good.

I watch porn with my girlfriend. I jerk off to it when shes with me and when she aint. It doesnt bother me too much.


Bothers me so many girls are so willing to do it though. Thats pretty sickening.

It helps. Read porn and masculinity on amazon. It’s really worth the read.