Red pill me on the difference between Fascism/Nazism and Communism

Red pill me on the difference between Fascism/Nazism and Communism.

The only major difference I found is the differing view on family values and nationalism.
Nazies strongly promoted them as a natural extention of the belief in the superiority of the white race, in order to encourage natality.
Italian Fascists promoted strong family values, because those are deeply rooted in Christianity, which was (is) one of the pillars of the Italian national identity.
Communism doesn't seem to have any particular interest in promoting them.
Communism favours internationality, wheras Fascism/Nazism promotes strong nationalism.

Theoretically both Nazism and Communism are atheist in nature.
Nazies however worship an atheist religion based on the belief of racial superiority mixed in with elements from Norse mythology.
Italian Fascism had strong ties to the Catholic Church, since it needed its support.

Socially, both are collectivist: individualism is shunned.

Economically, both rely on wealth and land redistribution schemes, both are anti-capitalist - both nationalize big corporations, banks and other major capitalist institutions.
To be fair, Fascists/Nazies did allow heavily regulated capitalism on the very smallest scale as in small family owned businesses, which operated under a variant of Keynesian economics, with strong regulations and subsidies. So there was no free market.

Morally, both promote brotherhood and equality amongst its adherents.
Though cult of personality of the leader isn't necessarily a defining trait of Communism, it always develops, being a feature of every dictatorship. So in both there is a strong worship of the head of state as the supreme authority from which all of morality derives.

Nazies exercised eugenics.
Communists too made some attempts at it.
Italian Fascists, on the other hand, did not practice it.

Both Fascists/Nazies and Communists persecuted minorities.

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Communism (at least in USSR) was all about strong family values though. Then again, having a white hetero family wasn't considered anything extreme back then, regardless of political system.

>Nazies strongly promoted them as a natural extention of the belief in the superiority of the white race, in order to encourage natality

Oh look a Jew who knows nothing about national socialism. Colour me shocked.

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Didn't know that. So one less difference between the two.

Do tell me why my assessment is wrong

>Nazies however worship an atheist religion based on the belief of racial superiority mixed in with elements from Norse mythology.
Wrong, most of Germany was Christian and atheism was looked down upon, they were 65% Protestant, 35% Roman Catholic. Hitler was also Christian. There were some occult elements like the Thule Society, but majority of NatSocs didn't practice this.
>Socially, both are collectivist: individualism is shunned.
Wrong, Hitler encouraged individualism.
>To be fair, Fascists/Nazies did allow heavily regulated capitalism on the very smallest scale as in small family owned businesses, which operated under a variant of Keynesian economics, with strong regulations and subsidies. So there was no free market.
Wrong, There was a free market and the capitalism was not as roughly enforced as you say.
>Both Fascists/Nazies and Communists persecuted minorities.
The only minority they persecuted were jews, for good reason. Blacks got better treatment than in America.

>communism: socialism organized around the good of the state
>Fascism: socialism organized around an identity

Both are stupid totalitarian nonsense.

The biggest one from an economics point of view is the focus on class collaboration instead of class struggle. Fascism encourages workers and business owners to work together for the greater good of the Volk.
Read up on the 30s organization "Kraft durch Freude". For example, they put German farmers and rich German entrepreneurs next to each other on cruises. Something unheard of in both Capitalism and Communism.

1) I am farely sure Hitler despised Christianity because in his view it glorified weakness.

2) Nazies viewed sacrificing themselves for the Fatherland as the highest moral virtue. Sacrificing oneself for the greater good of the collective it the definition of collectivism.

3) I would need to further research this point.

4) What about the Slavs, the Roma amd the fags?

Agreed.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look

>Wrong, Hitler encouraged individualism.
While he did encourage individualism (in contrast to the Marxists who outright despised it) the interest of the collective would still come first. Once the obligation to the Fatherland was fulfilled the individual can flourish within the collective.
As a Fascist I have no problem calling Fascism a collectivist ethos, however it is a very different kind of collectivism when compared to Marxism.

>1) I am farely sure Hitler despised Christianity because in his view it glorified weakness.
"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the idea of Christianity. Our movement is Christian."
"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders (jews)"
Both quotes by Hitler. Pic related is Hitler's drawing of Mary and Jesus.
>2) Nazies viewed sacrificing themselves for the Fatherland as the highest moral virtue. Sacrificing oneself for the greater good of the collective it the definition of collectivism.
"A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, or efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false." - Hitler
German Socialism was different from Marxist Socialism
>4) What about the Slavs, the Roma amd the fags?
They did persecute them during the war. They did not care about Slavs and Roma in peacetime. The fags deserved it desu, homosexuality is a sin and most Germans were Christian.

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The primary difference at the core of the ideologies is equality. The practical difference the citizen faces is centralized planning. Communist countries own everything, the citizens just work the land, and then they call it communal labor. It's obfuscated serfdom. National Socialism nationalized critical industry, but anyone could open a corner store and completely own the land, the business, the building, all the inventory, and the proceeds.

Commies are against nature because nature has no concept of equality.

Really anti-egalitarianism is the factor.

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>What about the Slavs,
Czechs and Slovaks were not persecuted, the only slavs that were arrested were commies.
There was Waffen SS[with local arregimented people] in Russia, Ukraine and Croatia.
> the Roma
due to their antisocial behaviour
> the fags?
Weimar degenerates that would be 5th column,
and do the usual "liberal backstabbing" in their own nation.

I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification.
The only thing I disagree with is your point about Slavs, but that might well just be my bias.

That they are

What about the Polish? They weren't commies: as a matter of fact they hated the USSR which annexed half of Poland.

>suddenly pilsudski dies
>hitler goes to his funeral, to honor him
>hitler back to germany
>the incumbent polish goverment starts skirmishes with german civilians in territories they lived.
Also Russia and Germany was doing what they did since 18th century.
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Haha, sure sure.

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Both equally dangerous, run user.

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