Young Brits say they are having less sex. Maybe that’s not such a bad thing

>Too little alcohol
Yeah how about no.

The answer is by the way: we're not getting married as much. The more married people, the more sex.
Bachelors actually don't have sex that often.

A small amount of men are fucking all the women

And what's causing marriage to decline in your opinion?

Only one of my schoolfriends are married now and we're all approaching 30, and that guy was only half-British and lives abroad now with a girl from his home country. Strange to think most people of my mother's age were settled down by my age.

By instilling in you the perception that all relationships are transactional, which stymies the development of affection, because you're always dimly aware that your opposite doesn't like you "for you", but rather for what you can provide them. Applying market logic to relationships breeds cynicism and disillusionment.

And that’s a good thing.

——

Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you. But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered.

—1 Corinthians 11:2–6 NKJV

People no longer believe in marriage because most of our boomer parents have divorced, or we have been raised by single mothers.

>Too little alcohol
Lmao not kosher, the kike author of that article should've known better

How does it instill that? Advertising, and so on?

Not trying to play dumb, just curious as to the methods employed to make people this why and the motivations behind it.

Pretty much summed up the incel mindset.

Do you have a less flippant refutation?

I agree from a personal perspective. Do you think marriage rates (among native Christians) will ever rise again in the UK?

With demographic changes being as rapid as they are, and a quiet, mundane, stable, peaceful life becoming further out of reach for younger folk, I can't see marriage ever becoming a norm among Britain's native population.

I was agreeing with you

We do not live in a society

No wonder. Modern women's vaginas are biohazardous waste depots. One must be a complete madman to touch them desu.

If this is true today it was certainly more true a few decades ago, which makes me think that it isn't a primary factor in what we're seeing now.

By referring to people who have this belief system as incels? Are incels simply casualties of capitalism by no fault of their own?

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If psychological warfare wasn’t real, the advertising industry would not be as big or important as it is. Most of these issues are cultural and can be reversed, but that would cost certain industries money and time.

The sad thing is that modern cucked men try to fuck everything that moves, especially those liberal thots
Real chads wouldn't give a fuck and would let them die alone without kids

When recession hits truly and women get booted out of their service industry jobs maybe. Divorce rates always go down when the economy goes down.

That's what Houellebecq (pic related) argues:

>"“It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'...Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.”"

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It could go up with increased (real) salaries and less taxes. Since a man would have more than enough money to provide for his family and thus less incentive for the females to be in the workforce increasing marriage stability and birth-rates.

feminism
high cost of living
unable to buy a home
unable to afford dating

better import more shitskins

Incels have been the norm for most of human history

I don't know how it's done but I read that, according to maternal and paternal genetic analysis, it can be deduced that roughly 80% of woman who have ever lived have had children whereas only 20% of men have.

So in a time before he cultural ideals of monogamy and the family unit, the majority of men have always been incels. Maybe for 10s of thousands of years... Maybe 100s?

Some men are being harshly reintroduced into the old system and realising why we scrapped it to begin with

It's literally only women's fault
First the liberation, now with Tinder they are becoming TOO picky. Everyone wants the Chad, but there are only few of him.

Its more that white women are fucking awful inside and out

Mixed "white" women maybe
Real white women aren't

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Anyone else think that this is to explain why politics is so crazy now? People dont have the sexual release anymore and it comes out in other forms.

Can you blame them? Look at their women.

White women are lying. manipulative cunts with no virtues and no faith. They are trash and they are trash because men allowed them to become such

I see what he's saying, but I mean it more sympathetically. Rather than focusing on how it's "their fault for being unfuckable losers", I'm focusing on how it's capitalism's fault for redefining relationships and sexuality in such a way as to make them disinclined to participate. Though at that point we have to be careful about our definition of "incel" instead of just using it as a trendy synonym for "person who is a virgin because I disagree with them"

>shows white couple
What has changed recently? That’s right migrants have come. That’s the change and that’s why there’s a surge because the media is trying to get them laid.
It’s Migrants, the muslims who have to molest children, they can’t get laid.

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It's fine. Life isn't purely about sex. MGTOW is a symptom. Men see the horrific behaviour of women and are not into it.
So, they withdraw into themselves. They have been seeking betterment. This will eventually make women realize they must be better. It's a totally organic self-correction mechanism.

I'm not sure of the validity of drawing that conclusion from that data.

Well even if 90% are trash there are still 10% diamonds among them
We just need to look out for the real trad ones

It’s the same levels of bonk as the 80’s.
This same OP keeps repushing these stats from weeks back at the same time as our media has started pushing them here,
It’s because migrants are mostly men and can’t get laid.

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Muh bigtow isn’t anything. Just pussy hat OP noise.

Why are you talking to yourself?

well my problem is that despite being better than most men, I actually have approximately 0 interaction with women

Yeah is that right.
ITS OFFICIAL THE LEFT CANT GET LAID:

40 more arrested in Rotherham today.

Fair enough. Assuming those numbers are real, what conclusions would you draw from them?

This is idiotic. In the past marriage was an actual transaction. One that usually didn't involve the woman as an actual partner just as one of the terms. And relationships were much better then. Relationships are failing because you can't "buy" a loyal wife anymore. Not even the richest man in the world can. This is because for men, loyalty and provision is an expectation from society, but it is not permissible to expect anything from the woman.

>high cost of living
>unable to buy a home
>unable to afford dating

Weren't these true in the depression etc, and truer in centuries past where great portions of the population lived in near-destitution? They still managed to marry, breed, etc.

>no faith.
Women attend church at a higher rate than men

Yes, that appears to be true:

>"Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same."

>"Another member of the research team, a biological anthropologist, hypothesizes that somehow, only a few men accumulated lots of wealth and power, leaving nothing for others. These men could then pass their wealth on to their sons, perpetuating this pattern of elitist reproductive success."

psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

the mom looks like caytlin jenner

A lot of men getting killed in war, and the victors taking the women. Also a lot of cucking.

This
Chads pqpqpoooooooo and the man when tey going upstairs they said to my dad wst happed the police

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Tinder and social media has inflated women's self image to a retarded high level and they think they deserve the top 20% guys.
Feminism has also made it a massive liability to have anything to do with a woman, because 10 years later she can throw your ass in jail if she happens to regret fucking you.
Increasing estrogen levels in men are also a factor, they're not approaching women anymore, but I think this is a lesser factor.

Women are the gatekeepers when it comes to sex, so if there's less of it then it's the girls who are causing it.

Sure it was true back then, but women didn't work and needed a man to provide for them.
Nowadays either the state provides for women or they provide for themselves making man irrelevant.
And we all know that man who's broke doesn't evoke any positive reaction from women.
This means that women instead of getting together with these low earning guys, they simply shut them out of the dating pool entirely and try to get the better guys.

Houellebecq was being sympathetic too (partly because he self-inserts a lot). His ideal with that novel, his debut, was to encourage French women to give beta, reliable, gentle, lonely guys a chance again - later he said he realized how absurd that ambition seemed in retrospect.

This same OP?

It's first time I posted this thread mate. Article is from The Guardian website today.

And wouldn't the marriage rate among white British folk be relatively high still, or growing at least, if the reason for this was due to the (still relatively small) migrant population?

Out of choice or circumstance?

>the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God
>the head of Christ is God
So Christ is NOT God?

god the father dumbass

such is life when you are an engineering student

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4/5 to 1 recently, that's higher than I'd expect. We're only just exiting a long period of normalized monogamy

Have you seen the average (young) white western person today? They've completely let themselves go in terms of bodyshape and style. More content to just sit on their ass instead of doing something to become more attractive and thus ATTRACT the opposite sex. I was like that too tbf, but getting more and more ripped with each day.

Well you're still young, though if you're in university you have no real excuse not to be looking for a girlfriend. It gets so much more difficult once you're in the working world.

I have no idea what you just said. MGTOW is fundamentally self reflection done by people who have probably never done it before. And they need to do it. And then become better.

I have some reservations about the NKJV anyway. Here's 1 Corinthians 11:3-4 in the Modern Literal Version instead:
>But I wish you to know, that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of the Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having something on his head, shames his head.
I see nothing about "God the Father" in that passage. I still have yet to see a Bible passage that explicitly proves Trinitarianism.

>whereas only 20% of men have.
It's an exaggeration. For Europeans, it's closer to 75% for men (90% for women).
phys.org/news/2010-03-modern-monogamous-moderately-polygamous.html
Which is very close to what it is today.
There appear to have been periods where the ratios got much higher, but not on average.
About 25% of men won't have kids. That doesn't mean no sex.

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>lift to fuck women
>instead end up with friends
I don't see the downside here. I suppose the ironpill is the one to take after all. Friends matter, they matter a hell of a lot more than a woman in your bed

Hebrews.

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it's pretty shocking how few girls here actually want a boyfriend
all they care about is their meme degree and consuming as much alcohol as possible
they have literally unlimited attention and can go find some random guy to fuck whenever so why would they bother

They mean the past 2000 years. Recently, it is closer to 1:1, and while men pump and dump, women also sleep around so it balances out.

In the very recent generations, marriage rates are no longer near unity so go get a girlfriend or four.

Not true mate. Good women are all after a boyfriend. But I'm sure you pass them by because you notice the thots. I studied graphic design at uni and nearly all the British women and Europeans were after committed relationships, not hookups. And they didn't all get attention, most were cute or a bit dorky and got passed up by tons of guys. It was the same for the connected classes, the art girls wanted boyfriends, the illustrators too, the animators. The few that didn't were hot but aloof, I stopped bothering talking to them after a while and generally overruled them if I was placed into a group with them. So if the art girls want to be faithful, shouldn't the rest? These are surely the least likely to be traditional, no?

Yeah. This is exactly correct. The point is though this can happen if you pursue anything with intent. You'll find friends. And if you're any good at it at all, you'll also probably attract women as a side effect. Women literally don't matter.

and how long ago was this? 10 years +? not relevant at all today
I know hundreds of people my age and in similar situation and maybe 20 of them are in a relationship

art girls? biggest whores on the planet my man I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole

Marriage rates are plummeting in every western nation mainly because of the laws that are in place, no fault divorce (unless you are a man then you are always at fault), #METOO movement, and the rotting of western nations socially and spiritually.

Unless there are drastic changes to society which take years and years possibly generations to fix plus the populace must have the will to change the problems, then things are only going to get worse before it gets better.

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Hard to take marriage seriously anymore when marriage certificates are given to same-sex couples, most(?) women have already had sex with other men by the time you meet them, and because of no-fault divorce they can ditch you and put you on the alimony plantation at any time. What other conclusion should a rational person draw from that?

Why only white women shill flag?

>Hard to take marriage seriously anymore when marriage certificates are given to same-sex couples, most(?) women have already had sex with other men by the time you meet them, and because of no-fault divorce they can ditch you and put you on the alimony plantation at anytime. What other conclusion should a rational person draw from that?

this. there is only massive risk to getting married, unless you're poor and have nothing for the court/woman to take from you

I completed uni last year mate. You'd be surprised how traditional most women who study art are. I found more whores study subjects like law, business. My dad works at a university and all the women there are disgusting sluts and its all business and finance stuff they do. Art girls can be a bit whimsical but whores they are not, for the most part. Most of them have low self esteem though, so I can understand why some will bed hop. I did, however, go to the best art & design university in the country, so perhaps things are different elsewhere. People were noticeably more intelligent and wealthy than average.

>But I'm sure you pass them by because you notice the thots
Thots are easy to spot, and by definition available.
How does one spot unattached, available but otherwise nice girls who are looking for a long term relationship?
Engagement and wedding bands are no use. You can obviously just ask, quite a big search.

That’s your hangup? That it doesn’t say ‘God-the-Father’ in that sentence? Despite other books clearly stating Jesus is the Son if God?

It’s amazing that you’re not more concerned with the completely different Genealogies in Matthew and Luke showing Joseph as a descendant if David, and that being irrelevant anyway because of a virgin birth.

Or the entire book of Revelation which is just a drug addled fever dream that says nothing about God or Jesus and spends most of its time worried about the numerology of monster horns. Plus it describes in detail the destruction of Babylon - which we know did not happen because Babylon was abandoned about 1000AD and we have since dug it up.

But the fact that it doesn’t say ‘God the father’ in one chapter of Corinthians is the real problem.

How about people fucking get married.
These libshit magazines intentionally promote degeneracy.

I'm not Christian but I'm always interested to see Christians try to defend Trinitarianism.

When the society and all the media tells you that having sex is cool and desirable it automatically turns off young people. There is nothing to rebel against when its advertised 24/7.

>Do you think the so-called "sex recession" is a sign of wider issues in society, or just a passing fad that'll revert to normal after a while?
Definitely the result of modern living standards.

i just want emotional intimacy man

Its only a sex recession for the bottom 80% of men. The top 20% of men and almost all women are fucking like rabbits. Now that women can be independent and have careers, they don't need average looking men. They have their friends, cats and alcohol. If they feel like fucking, get on tinder and pick whatever chad you want for that night. Meet him for drinks and take him back, enjoy. Then you can ghost him the next day and keep living your life.

Less sex for you, more rape for the browns to enjoy with your women!

the young sit there like a child while boomers and jews ruin their countries
being a coward doesn't make you want to have sex

back then it wasnt expected of a male to make 6 figures and drive a nice car

the standards these days do not match up with the reality.

Children don't come from the womb silly. They come from a boat.

I see as a sign of the downfall of the Western civilization along with degenerate trends all around.
Liberalism, social-democratic bullshit and all that faggotry is just another incarnation of the eternal Christcuck.

Muslims will probably take over, despite being fucking barbarians, hence I have to admit that EVEN THEIR values right now are way better than the typical Western humanism-faggot-ridden-degeneracy of a culture.

Watching the downfall from afar.