I converted a few atheist frens here to a based interpretation of Christianity but judging by the posts I'm seeing they've devolved into christcucks. I guess they started indoctrinating themselves with modernist Christianity and there was nothing I could do. I got them off one path to hell and straight onto another one. What should I do?
I've failed
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> Believing in God at all
We are just animals. You and I will die and be forgetten.
what's your so-called "based interpretation"?
force them to read the king james bible
Provide evidence to suggest a God exists. That would be a good starting move.
Why should I believe in Christianity instead of White Shinto? Isn't Japan more based than Pope "kissing nigger feet" Francis?
this graphic also coincide with the moral decay that the west experience lay down your fedora user you're just like a jew
Is that plotting how much shittier the west is getting over time?
>coincides with moral decay
Proof?
>you're just like a jew
Jesus was jewish.
A mix of things. Crusader values, trad Catholicism, a bit of Christian Identity. The same things Jow Forums believed before the reddit invasion. But everyone here is a civcuck now. No one's saying Christianity doesn't require you to be a push over anymore. No one's saying only old rites are valid anymore. No one's saying Lord Jesus is white anymore. All the good qualities of Jow Forums Christianity have been subverted away. It's over. The holy has been defiled.
shinto is okay with degeneracy which lead to the downfall of civilization.
japanese don't have any kids and only follow shinto like a tradition just like how western atheist and heretic christian celebrate christmas they celebrate it only because they been raise with certain tradition they don't know shit about it nor beleive in it
(it = the tradition)
If you're so weak willed you'll believe anything a jewish priest/pastor says and throw away your natural law values then stay whatever you are. You'll be better off.
Jesus wasn't a Talmudic kike.
I don't plan on proving God itt. I don't want to ensnare you into a cuckification trap.
>Proof?
are you retarded ? you see it everyday on the street , on the internet , on tv , at school.
since you want proof just watch how the feminist ideologie became so widespread , the acceptance of gays , trannies and other degenerate , lack of identity in western country , the popularization of nigger culture ( hip hop)
> Jesus was jewish.
Jesus was hated by jew because he was preaching against their satanic doctrine
Narrow is the path. If they want to worship modernist heresies that's their choice.
christianity never required anyone to be a push over.
what is the race of God the Father? or the race of God the Holy Spirit? and Jesus has ascended into heaven, and His body is now glorified..... do you really think He has a "race"?
and, what old rites?
It's not really their fault if every Christian voice is telling them to become like women, when they would've stayed based in a sane society without the jew. Why should I help the jew by leading them into one of its trap?
>he wasnt the type of Jewish person I dont like
I didnt make that distinction. I said he was jewish.
And jews who follow the Talmud are "kikes". Christ is the only salvation for the Synagogue of Satan.
You can just say you cant and move on.
>what is the race of God the Father? or the race of God the Holy Spirit? and Jesus has ascended into heaven, and His body is now glorified..... do you really think He has a "race"?
Yes, in the letter from Pilate He is described as blonde. Metaphysical concepts don't have a race but I believe Jesus also came in the flesh.
>christianity never required anyone to be a push over.
Dude... every time someone wants you to be a submissive pushover they ask you what would Jesus do?
>what old rites?
Oh come on now. They removed the exorcisms from baptism. That doesn't strike you as fishy?
>We are just animals. You and I will die and be forgetten.
Not an argument.
>you see it every day
I dont.
>just watch how the feminist ideologie became so widespread , the acceptance of gays , trannies and other degenerate
What's the percentage of all of these people? I havent ran into any people from any of these groups. Of course you are going to see it on TV, ratings are ratings and the media is garbage. That doesnt mean we have more "degeneracy", but it is easy if you're the one defining what's degenerate.
>Jesus was hated by jew because he was preaching against their satanic doctrine
That doesnt make him not jewish.
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Does this make him not jewish?
What good is faith in Christ if it will make your works the same as Satan's?
>still uses the Pilate letter forgeries as a genuine example
He was a jew that wasn't a kike. All the jews that remained followers of the "Traditions of the Elders" that became the Talmud or so called "converts" are the ones we call kikes, if we're being accurate with definitions.
>everything inconvenient for (((your))) narrative is a forgery
Jesus did come in the flesh and so of course He did have a race at that time. but i'm talking about right now. in His glorified body. and don't forget He was with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit in the beginning, in eternity past before He ever walked the earth in the flesh.
and i just ignore the "what would jesus do" crap. most of the time that phrase is just used as an emotional hook to try to compel you to do what someone else wants you to do.... like give money, or volunteer for something.
and idk what you're talking about with the exorcisms from baptism thing. john the baptist didn't exorcise anyone when he was baptizing.
>I dont.
you lie you're living in the usa.
>What's the percentage of all of these people? I havent ran into any people from any of these groups. Of course you are going to see it on TV, ratings are ratings and the media is garbage. That doesnt mean we have more "degeneracy", but it is easy if you're the one defining what's degenerate.
these people are in the gouvernement , school ext they control the law and the dominant ideology since there is more npc drone that real humans , you probably don't see how degenerate people are since you are an atheist you don't have any moral value , you can't define moral since you said we're animals by saying that you're okay with fags , pedo , incest , ext
you are a degenerate
>That doesnt make him not jewish.
there is no jewish race it's mental
>What good is faith in Christ
Could have just ended the statement here, because I dont have anything to suggest there is a good reason for faith. It's on par with gullibility.
>He was a jew
I know, I already said this.
>but not the one I dont like
Ok
The early churches decided it was a grand idea to create loads of forgeries. They admitted it all the time. Even some of Paul's epistles are up for debate. Why are you so intent that Jesus must be white for you to worship him? Do you think Christianity is a western religion?
The sooner you understand that Christianity is inherently cucked and attempts to mold it into "based" religion are ALWAYS futile struggling against the current, the better.
What you do is just trying to bury you head in the sand to flee from truth.
What are they reading John Piper and Jueden Peterstein books or something? Introduce them to the JQ
>not being religious
>impossible to have morals
fuck off
a belief in a higher power doesn't make you a good person
fucking based get
you just said that we are animals
animals have no god and no morals
believing is different than following
someone can believe in christianity and not following the commandment that person is not a christian
Not really sure what it is honestly. I know paganism was invented by """Christian""" writers and Christianity has been around longer than evidence for European paganism. Maybe it's an old European ethnoreligion kikes and Romans have been trying to corrupt with pilpul and rewriting scripture. It's pretty hard to find any good info on traditional Christianity though because traditional Christians and Christian Identitarians themselves are so shy and quiet.
the "converts" are the khazar/ashkenazi
they are not semite
>He was a jew
>Satan trips
>believing is different than following
you are certainly right about that.
believe
verb
1Accept that (something) is true, especially without proof.
Orthodox Christians still perform exorcism with baptism
i hope you have proof of the bigbang mister atheist !
Would an Orthodox priest yell at me if I said Jesus is white? Anyone who says Jesus is white I instantly know is based in many other aspects. Someone who says He's jewish though...
Introduce them to the concept of "Red-Letter Christianity". In all seriousness, that's all you need to know and abide by. Paul hated women, and the OT God was obsessed with blood sacrifice. Everything after Paul is nigh Masonic infiltration.
Just stick to Jesus' teachings.
aw, you quit responding to me?
>you lie you're living in the usa.
I dont watch the news, and I barely come to Jow Forums anymore. I have a full time job and a girlfriend who I'm proposing to soon; im far too busy to worry about this small nonsense. These bad things you assert I'm seeing every day is not true. So to assert that I'm lying, please provide evidence that shows I'm lying. When you realize you've come to a blind assertion, feel free to be honest and say so.
>cant give a percentage or any information to substantiate the assertion
Naming random professions isnt proof.
>you probably don't see how degenerate people are since you are an atheist you don't have any moral value
I'm the only one here acting as a moral agent. You're blindly following words from an asserted God that you cant verify exists. What's moral about not making any moral judgements at all, and asserting your God is correct?
>you can't define moral since you said we're animals by saying that you're okay with fags , pedo , incest , ext
I didn't say I was okay with any of this. Please link my post and show exactly where I said this. When you realize you are wrong again, please be honest and say so.
See this guy clearly doesn't like jews and would never listen to them. He also believes in racial stereotypes and some races are just evil, which is great because he will avoid or even rebel against the jews' teaches instead of submitting to them and becoming a cuck.
there's tones, but you have to learn physics first, and i doubt you're capable.
i don't "believe" anything, only degrees of knowing.
see when you "believe" something it shuts down all intention of wanting to know the truth, your mind closes and there is no further investigation.
so keep lying to yourself, i would rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned.
Love exists.
i dont have the stats on this computer sorry but since you used to come here you probably saw most of the graphic .
> You're blindly following words from an asserted God that you cant verify exists
well everythings that is talked about in the bible is happening and the bible is 100% correct about human behavior
>I didn't say I was okay with any of this. Please link my post and show exactly where I said this.
you said in your first post and i quote "we are animals" i'm just quoting things that animals do and are okay with
and since you said and i quote "we are animals"
you must be okay with these things mister i'm the normal guy here
P.s plz don't have kids we don't need more degenerate in this world
Sorry copefags but it's true.
>Christianity
Kys jew cuck
physics when it come to the bigbang is only theory.
and if the bigbang did happen how did it happen ? nothing can emerges from nothingness in your scientific world
100% right? The bible isn't even consistent with itself let alone all of human behavior.
You heard of Moonies? Seek one out and debate them. It will complete your journey.
theory is only one step from law, all you have is fantasy and myth.
the device you use to post here is built on theoretic principles.
>shit that didnt happen
If you converted them to christianity on the basis of the idea of religion and tradition being important, you made a mistake. Ancestor worship and mithraism is much better than Christianity, especially since modern christianity has managed to devolve into literally goyim control.
If you converted them to christianity on the basis that you think it is absolute truth, kys christcuck. We literally do not need you in the modern age.
>A mix of things. Crusader values, trad Catholicism, a bit of Christian Identity
you did not read it and if you did you didn't understand
mister normal guy go back to your normal life and build a life to die next where there is nothing you might as well you just kill yourself you are basically living to then die and next nothing.
you're not a spiritual being i could throw a kabbalah book to your face and you would not understand anything at something that is very simple
big bang is a result of the cycle of chaos. The cycle of the universe itself. Trillions of years can result of chaos giving birth to order, which will give into entropy over time and the cycle happens again.
>I dont have it on my computer
You have the internet. Lol.
>well everythings that is talked about in the bible is happening and the bible is 100% correct about human behavior
[Citation needed] but also what does this have to do with what you replied to?
>you said in your first post and i quote "we are animals"
I dont want a quote, I want you to link the post to me. You saying I said it doesnt mean I said it. Again. Link the post.
>fantasy and myth.
oh veeeeeyyy theory is something 100% accurate and truth believe me goy
proof ? there is none.
Let's crucify this faggot!
>you are basically living to then die and next nothing
now you're starting to get it.
why don't you celibate when a loved one dies?
i mean they're in heaven after all, right?
because deep down inside you know, just afraid of the truth.
If your belief system is so nebulus, convoluted, and incongruous that you need to "interpret" it to create a basic semblance of healthy life and culture, then does it really have any value in itself? You're taking an alien belief system, picking and choosing what you can and cannot accept, then compromising on the rest, to reckon it with your own folk morality and instincts. It's honestly disrespectful to everyone involved, you as a coward that has to be so selective to slant it in a way you can finally accept, and to the religion itself, which you change from its own system and beliefs to accommodate your own.
Why not accept as it is, as an alien socio-political system of belief originating in an alien land to be artificially imposed upon your race?
Cool.
there is lots of proof, i don't have time to explain hours worth of information for you, educate yourself, get out of this "belief" trap.
ironic you should mention proof however.
what proof do you have?
Jesus condemned the pharisees for saying they were of Abraham's seed because they did not live by the same standard as Abraham. Physically they were in fact descended from Abraham but spiritually Jesus told them they were from the seed of Satan. Jesus later says that the true Jews are the ones that follow Him. The problem with people saying Jews are bad is the fact that they dont recognize the modern day "Jews" as posers. The real Jews are the true followers of Christ and the people who call themselves Jews but are not reject Christ to this day.
>Why not accept as it is, as an alien socio-political system of belief originating in an alien land to be artificially imposed upon your race?
because it was not imposed, user, all christian countries with the exception of the baltic states were converted via compelling revelation, healing, or reasoning. the birth of christianity and the life of Christ permeated Europe because it's true, just, and beautiful.
>Physically they were in fact descended from Abraham
Well Esau did descend from Abraham but that's beside the point. You probably believe they're Israelites which opens a nasty can of worms you can the fruits of in American Evangelicals. jewish Israelism is a bad tree that bears bad fruit.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
ever hear of the inquisition?
people were burned, tortured, and killed for not believing.
also promise of an afterlife, and fear of hell are big motivators, am i right?
>be a human being
>go full retard and be an atheist
>the amount of stupidity and retardness is not enough
>convert to Christianity
If you are an ex-atheist who converted to Christianity you don't deserve to be alive
>I don't have time to give proof
>but I do have time for you to give me some
10/10
If you start worshipping anything go with satanism you fool.
Show them this thread.
You ignorant tool. Simply Charlemagne himself refutes that idiotic, or actively malevolent, statement, but anyone who has even a basic understanding of European history should know how much bullshit you just spewed.
Save for a few key, political conversions (which were partly coercion, anyways), almost all of Christianity's spread throughout Europe has been by force or the threat of force.
you mean the 3000-5000 people who were put to death in the whole of Iberia? yeah we are really racking up "sack of Baghdad" numbers here. almost toe to toe with Islam. also the primary objective of which was to expel Islamic invaders who had conquered, occupied, and persecuted the existing indigenous Christian population for 700 years. you're right, completely not justifiable.
The proof is that nearly every religion in the world has described it this way. It is an existential truth. You can find many scientific theories but it has been believed by most peoples that the universe was birthed by chaos. Science is starting to back this up, showing that all the negative and positive forces in the universe cancel themselves out.
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heres an explanation you might understand.
Nothing can come from something, and eventually it will all cancel out and become nothing again. Nothing is chaos, the universe was birthed out of positives and negatives becoming seperate, creating individual particles, and then attracting eachother to become what we know of as matter.
As I said, all Indo-european mythos explain the birth of the universe in such a way, of positives and negatives becoming seperate then coming together to birth what us. All Indo-european mythos explain cycles as existing within the universe and it would be sound to say many imply that the universe itself is a cycle. Rebirth. the sacred truth. There is no sacred single god, rather: chaos gives birth to us so that chaos can be murdered. And chaos will attempt to swallow us whole once more in the end times
>they killed us first so we just had to kill them back lmao
hmmm yes very christian of you
but you don't mind enjoying all the modern benefits of all this bad fruit?
your computer, cell phone, car whatever technology you enjoy is brought to you, not by fantasy and myth, but through intelligent people who refused to eat the blue pill.
correction, nothingness is chaos.
>chaos
correction.
chaos
noun
mass noun
1Complete disorder and confusion.
‘snow caused chaos in the region’
1.1Physics The property of a complex system whose behaviour is so unpredictable as to appear random, owing to great sensitivity to small changes in conditions.
1.2 The formless matter supposed to have existed before the creation of the universe.
the baltic, aligensian, and bosnian crusades were the only sanctioned "holy wars" declared by the catholic church to convert previously paganistic societies. the whole of europe, save germania, adopted the religion after the roman empire fell my dude.
You're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm cutting straight to the root of this whole problem. If people would acknowledge that the modern days "Jews" were the ones spoken of in revelation then the entire argument of whether Jesus was white or not and all the surrounding arguments would become invalid. It's just a pointless argument that holds no meaningful gains. The gospel is what matters to people without faith everything else is higher education for brothers and sisters in Christ to study not drivel over with nonbelievers on an online image board. You haven't failed you showed them Christ and now He will lead them where they need to be through different parts of their life to teach them what they need to know. Take faith in the fact that you showed someone Christ whether you were 100% right or not doesnt matter
>The proof is that nearly every religion in the world has described it this way.
In what way?
>You can find many scientific theories but it has been believed by most peoples that the universe was birthed by chaos
What is this proof for, exactly?
>Nothing can come from something
How did you determine this? We don't have a "nothing" to test your assertion on, so how could we possibly come to this conclusion?
>and eventually it will all cancel out and become nothing again
That's not nothing.
>Nothing is chaos
No, chaos is chaos. It's not nothing.
>the universe was birthed out of positives and negatives becoming seperate, creating individual particles, and then attracting eachother to become what we know of as matter.
"Positives and negatives" are a something, not a nothing. So how are you making this jump from nothing to something? Also, who is proposing this in any scientific metric?
>'x' said a vague thing that i attribute to scientific findings
Because you can fit it into a fact, doesn't mean it was founded in it.
we had to take lands back from invaders? wow, is there anything more pathetic than secular humanism? fuck man, have an identity
It's almost as if people need a religion with its roots firmly in ethnicity, culture and soil so that their tribal racial tendencies are more effectively provoked.
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God is real bc my book says so, even tho its filled with bs and contradictions
>one post by this Id
disregarded
>memeflaggot
You know your opinion doesn’t matter while you hide Moshe
>b-b-but TECHNICALLY...
Yes, I'm sure that matters to the millions of white men, women, and children put death by the swords and fire of converted Christian leaders.
>wow, is there anything more pathetic than secular humanism?
larpers claiming to be christian while defying its most basic tenets has to be up there
>h-haha no jesus would’ve totally wanted us to btfo all those dumb muzzies XD
>It's almost as if people need a religion with its roots firmly in
Facts might be a better starting point.