Well? is she not right

>Child support
It should start the second the father doesn't want to stick around and the baby is confirmed his.
>Deport mothers
Deport both of them, the only reason the baby is a US citizen is because the mother broke the law. Fuck anchor babies.
>Insurance
If you can find something to sell you insurance be my guest dumb bitch

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You have to be BORN on US soil to get citizenship this does not change that you are a living person as a baby inside your mother

The legality’s of child support involve either the name on the BIRTH CERTIFICATE the primary care giver at the time of BIRTH AND ON or DNA testing

The insured has to sign for the policy to make it official

>literally who
oregano and parsley

Here’s another bran twister

If illegals have rights why can’t they buy firearms

>child support
What expenses are there, other than you stuffing your face and taking OTC back pain meds? You gonna enroll your uterus at the daycare center then leave it there for the day?

>because she's carrying a US citizen
So your body, your uterus is official US territory now? Good, we'll pass some anti-abortion laws there.

>can I insure
Private companies can do what they want. No one has a right to a life insurance policy.

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>black people literally only think in terms of gibs
>they reproduce just because they can collect a cheque

holy shit, is this the true african power?

here we go boys got what you wanted.

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Yes, if the gibs to nigger mom's was completely cut off, the US nigger population would plummet.

Well, that's an interesting thought. Fetal life insurance. I'm surprised that's not already a thing.

Christcucks actually want those people to procreate.

I mean that’s literally what none dead beat dads are already doing

Non*

>Mother broke the law
Irrelevant. The purpose of the new abortion law is to say that you can't punish a child for the mistakes of a parent. Therefore, you can't deport an American because the actions of their parent.

Take your pills schizo

She assumes parental rights automatically be granted to the mother.
The Non-citizen has no rights in the United States..
Perhaps at conception the mother starts paying the father child support.

I' ll bite:

1. Child support is for - gasp - children.
2. US citizens have US children. An illegal alien in no case whatsoever has an US citizen inside her.
3. Again, "born".

Is money all these people think about?

>snap back reaction to a single policy against you
Fine let’s go full ancap

What stop me from saying you have to be BORN to be considered a person? You can't assign legal rights at 6 weeks, but then leave of shit until 9 months later. It's all or nothing.

Those are good points. Yes, yes and yes.

It's a potential US citizen it can still be born outside of the country

Children don't have legal rights until they're 18. For that they're under custody of their parents

lol, he won't owe her shit until she submits to a prenatal paternity test, which will run her $1000 or more.
Oh wait, lemme guess, these dumb cunts are gonna expect a man or the govt to pay for the paternity testing, too? Why are women such helpless, flailing children who can't do anything at all for themselves?

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Remember to install gentoo!

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>child support

If we outlaw abortion, then Yes, proportionate to the cost of the baby. Otherwise you should only be entitled to child support of the father consented to the keeping of the child.
>Deportation
I'd hear the argument that you must be able to prove the baby was conceived on US soil. Good luck with that
>Insurance
Generally speaking, you can only insure what insurance companies are willing to create policies for. As far as I know it's not currently illegal to insure a fetus.

stupid whore is not right

Black person finds out how to get more gibs. Wow, typical and embarrassing. Such a laughing stock.

In her mind the pregnant woman automatically is single, needs child support and needs government assistance. Fucking racist.

Biology and rights are two different things

Biologically you are a person and yet legally you can’t have a gun or drink until 21 for instance

Well the fact that you'll become a citizen, if born in USA, even if your parrents are both illegal, or just the single mother, is already retarded.

Who the fuck offers life insurance for children?

That's like the setup for some fucken dark murder mysteries

Except it would be child abuse to separate the two why so xenophobic and nationalist to assume the parent home country is a punishment

typical nigger,looking for dem gibs.

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if your choice depends on whether or not it's your body, then would you submit to a blind dna test comparing the dna in your body to the dna in the fetus?

Thats the reality of most women who are in the position of getting an abortions anyways faggot

First thing out of the sheboons mouth is child support. This is the sheboons main source of income.

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The baby isn't an American until it's born. Deport the mother before it's born, problem solved

There not bad points, but no no and maybe. Have to be born to be us citizens so they can be deported and since child support is something settled by courts, then thats outside jurisdiction. The insurance is private and I don't know how the law would handle it.

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>Biology and rights are two different things
>Biologically you are a person and yet legally you can’t have a gun or drink until 21 for instance

Yeah you can't vote either. There's a difference between civil liberties and human rights. An illegal is denied all sorts of Constitutional rights because they are not citizens. That doesn't mean you can't walk up an kill them.

What an inane comparison.

I don't care! Gibs! Gibs! Gibs!

well if its a nigger then its not even a person so whats she getting all pissed about

Well, child support should start when you have to support the child, not yourself, so at birth.

I don't like birthright citizenship without both parents being citizens of the nation they are giving birth in. I could support preemptive citizenship for children of pregnant mothers with citizenship. Just because you exist in a place when you're born doesn't mean you belong there.

You should be able to insure pregnancy.

Can*

Is there ever a moment when a roastie isn't scheeming to monetize every facet of her existence? Pay per click indeed.

Why are white people so pathetic? I mean I don't want you to go extinct and flood the world with niggers, but you guys have gotta fucking step up dude

If everyday citizens started killing the illegals, not only would they stop coming but the ones hiding would flee as well.

>others are pathetic but I am unable to recognize troll post so

Ah yes, no one has ever gotten pregnant by accident, even when taking precautions.

Ah yes no one has abstained from sex when knowingly are unable to support the consequences....

Rape is the single exception and more complicate but still killing a growing human being After 6 weeks

What a disgusting person.

rofl you've clearly never met these low iq knuckle draggers, shut the fuck up chink

Again, no birth control is 100%. Expecting abstinence is just retarded.
And then you have the pinnacle of retardation, America, where they don't even teach proper sex ed for zero good reason.

Then the rest of society has to suffer for it.

Remember when women had no issue with the phrase with child

Nationality is a birthright, but yes you could make it a conception one, the birth right comes from a time than abortion was considered salvage and inhumane

>child support?
Maybe. Do people have to pay child support if they knock a chick up, or only in a divorce? Would be crazy to get a woman pregnant and get divorced two weeks later. I wouldn't know because I am not degenerate.
>deport?
You aren't a citizen if you are conceived in the US, you have to be born. Deport them.
>Insure?
I don't think any company would offer insurance like that, and if they did it would be insanely expensive due to the risk of miscarriage. It's not like life insurance is some right you just get for free.

>thinking niggers are smart enough to use birth control effectively

Have you spent any time around shitskins?

Expecting personal responsibility is retarded I keep hearing this only applied to dumb poor people having sex

Like no one is taken seriously and says to a women stop dressing a certain way and going out around men unsupervised because expecting rape to not happen is retarded

>is she not right
No not all. The kid doesn't need clothes or supplies yet, she just need to eat and we have WIC for that nutrition profile. There is nothing to insure as the loss of the child carries no financial burden like that of a lost wages earner. Just a dumb nigger saying ooga booga really.

Whose going to pay for it when the dollar is worthless? When you can take a wheelbarrow full of dollars and it might buy a loaf of bread? If you aren't paying attention the exact same social and economic conditions during the Wiemar republic are playing out once again.

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I have not. But that doesn't really solve the problem.

The point is that even with personal responsibility, mishaps can occur. You can either have a final solution to curb the damage, or you can make it worse.

No.
>child support
Child support is for the additional aid needed to support a child. A fetus doesn't require any more aid than the mother did.
>Deport the mother
Citizenship is established by birth, not by existence. The 14th amendment is explicitly clear about that.

>life insurance
Like the child support, life insurance is to provide for the loss of a source of social and/or financial support. A fetus doesn't involve anything.

Not murdering people isn't about what kind of benefits you can squeeze out of it.

Cont. as well no one tells men it’s okay to not pay for the child the mother decides to have using the same
Logic that abstinence doesn’t work

Only the women seems to get a out of personal responsibility

>pregnant
>already divorced
The state. This is the best bill imaginable, the amounts of salt are fucking enormous. Good job, USA.

Except the final solution would include some form of punishment for those not practicing personal responsibility such as men and child support

What about when you kill a pregnant woman and they charge you with double homicide?

The fuck you can't. Sure, don't beat up the fetus for being an illegal invader, but allowing the mother and her spawn is fucking sophistry.

It's still their responsibility, no one else's.

They're not an American, you're not an American just because you're born on American soil

Black people are too dumb to be educated on personal responsibility. Look at unwed birthrate by race. Also take a look at unintended pregnancy by race.

Low income women (which black people tend to be) are too stupid to not get knocked up.

As always shitskins ruin everything

I like how pro abortionist use the argument about doing it prevent the responsibility falling on societies shoulders which is fine and dandy but when you at the same time try to lie to biology and play dumb to spare these reckless women’s emotions by pretending they aren’t killing children you are actually creating a more accepting environment for less personal responsibility

>child support and alimony
The child does not cost any money at 6 weeks

>child a citizen
Leaving aside for the moment that birthright citizenship is retarded to begin with and a misinterpretation of the law, the law mentions birth not conception or “personhood”

>miscarriage insurance
In a free market I don’t see any problem with this, but I don’t see what this has to do with the topic per se

>He really thinks WW3 will happen
buahahahaha

>So is that when child support starts?
Hahahaha, like she's going to get any child support from a nigger
>Can't deport the mother because she's carrying a US citizen?
It's not a "US citizen" until it's born you stupid fucking she-boon
>Can I insure a 6 week old fetus...?
Sure, if you can afford the premium they would charge you, but you don't get that much on you monthly EBT card.

>I purposely think of annoying questions to confuse my opposition and make it sound like I have a point

This is why you get the gas.

There should never be child support for unmarried women. Eternal poverty and moonlighting as a sex worker should be the penalty for being a whore.

roasties would be getting knocked up just to lose the baby...no fucking way an insurance company...i mean jews would take that risk.

All of these points are applicable to any stage of pregnancy, a common pitfall for those who support murder out of convenience.

Why won't you just admit it? Why do you want other people to follow through with your mental gymnastics? It changes nothing; legally abortion IS murder (unlawful killing of another human being), right up until we legalise the process. Colloquially it is inseparable from the term. There is no cogent distinction to be made between a fetus and a comatose human, own it or fuck off.

My point was just to allow easy access to abortions. And possibly cut all gibs for pooping out a baby (or restrict it to those earning above a certain amount)

>muh gibs
>muh deportations
>muh insurance fraud
Is it the typical state of nigger mind?

Simply this

That’s what I know I and most modem people’s take on it is just own it and we can admit and continue in a society that is not desperately trying to legislate morality while defending this

That is just treating the symptom.

The best answer is to sterilize the mentally infirm, which is exactly what Margaret Sanger wanted in the first place. Pay poor and stupid women 100K to get sterilized. It would save billions in future welfare payments.

My point would be allow it but don’t lie and pretend it isint killing a child and at the same time allow men to opt out of child support and parenthood in the same window

Child support... sure about 2 dollars a day for the fetus. Citizens are born to citizens. Yes you can get insurance, good luck proving you weren't at fault for the miscarrriage.
Sounds good to me.

That’s why I said “in a free market”. Either they’d come up with an effective way or assessing the risk and ensuring the woman did not induce miscarriage (same way life insurance makes sure the dead person didn’t choose to die and wasn’t murdered by the beneficiaries), or they wouldn’t do it

I'd support her abortion.

But you can. Fetus is human, it is nature, no matter where you are, but citizenship and gibs are social constructs.

are parents also immune from being sent to prison when they're convicted of crimes?

>reality of women getting abortions anyway
But they get citizenship because they aborted they baby that was American for 6 weeks. Honk.

How will they even determine who the father is?

Jesus. Can't these cunts just accept their L without trying to 'get even'?

Finally. They will have 100.000s women flee the state and only old christian taliban people will be left the state removes itself within 100 years.
>also, 10.000s of black wemen in jail for life

I never understood the idea how not deporting the child wasn’t child abuse if I Join the military am stationed in another country and leave my child here with for the state to take care of that’s child abandonment because they are under 18 and must remain in my care

Similarly if I have a child and get a job in another country I have full rift and expectation to take that child with me and if so chose to become a citizen there make my child one as well otherwise again it’s child abandonment

1. Wage garnishing should occur if pregnancy happens outside of marriage.
2. Anchor baby status is not a real thing, our laws have been misinterpreted.
3. If the insurance provider will provide coverage then yes.

Any other nigger tier questions you want answered?

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