Treaty of Trianon Thread

>85% of forests was taken
You steppeniggers barely even lived in them so stop calling them yours.
>2/3 of Hungarian lands was taken
Stop calling them Hungarian. Other ethnic groups lived there for a long time and even when you tried to Magyarize them all a large part of the Hungarian kingdom was still not really Hungarian.
Having Magyarized German/Slovak ancestors i wouldn't mind giving some areas back like Komarno and the other borderlands but thinking you have a claim over the whole of pre-Trianon Hungary in a time of Nation-states is idiotic. Also even without Trianon the seperate ethnic groups would still rise up at some point. You're simply starting another conflict here which is stupid since we have way bigger priorities in modern-day Europe.

>You're simply starting another conflict here which is stupid since we have way bigger priorities in modern-day Europe.
You know what I changed my mind, I will sell you guys Transylvania but make sure you kill as many ethnic romanians you can.

>expecting a Hungarian to use logic

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>What do you think about the Treaty of Trianon?
YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN INCH OF LAND BACK, TOO MANY COUNTRIES BENEFITED FROM IT AND WILL SELFISHLY GUARD THAT LAND TO WAR AND BEYOND.
And your country is too small to fight one of them and win.
If you rabble rouse I wouldn't be surprised if they make an alliance against the Hungarian state.

Most of those “countries” did not exist. There was nobody to treat with. Croatian national heroes like Count Miklos Zrinyi considered themselves Hungarians. Romanians considered themselves Hungarian, Transylvanian or Gypsies. Serbs are subhumans and tots were literally all of Hungary during the period of Ottoman domination (see pic related royal Hungary was all that remained with Transylvania ruled by Hungarian princes under Ottoman suzerainty). These meme nationalisms were created and stoked by Jewish subversives in the early 20th century.

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>guaranteed and aimless shitposting bait thread
Get a proper hobby, attention seeking autist.

>the land you can take anyways
>others are giving you
So, ignore the offer of the recently-victorious Allies to unite all of your peoples, risk retaliation from them, side with a BTFO nation that just got 3 massive independence wars and an economy in shambles, just so you can get a small portion of some other land and risk getting attacked by your newfound ally again? I don't get you, user.

How much are you willing to pay for all of Transylvania?

They play them at this game against each other LMAO it was they who got eternal anglod so they can't threaten other major continental powers.
Couldn't Hungary just say they were anti Bolshevik or some shit? Let me guess they stupidly installed a communist government after the war.

One bitcoin.

The coinage is blood, right?

>Romanians considered themselves Hungarian
Wasn't expecting much from a meme flag but holy fuck you're retarded

I unironically prefer a hapsburg federation with autonomous areas like pic related. Just an idea tho im not saying its realistic in modern times but it couldve been a way for the Danubian empire to continue.

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Sold to the ancap Kebab Remover!

Hmm more I will see it for 300 billion euros, want it?
>The coinage is blood, right?
Nope cash, that place is already secessionist and a den of degenerates and pro EU faggots.

Also yes its not all of the austro-hungarian empire but thats because i think poles and ukrainians have their own large nation states in contrary to the small nations in pic related

I'm a bit sad but you should have rebelled in World War 1,then you wouldn't have lost so much land
This,well said
Honestly i think Hungary would have been ok if they didn't side with Hitler in ww2,obviously that caused the fucking commies to come and well shit,but right now Hungary is ethnically homogenous and that's working well for them
Also
>Serbs
>Subhumans
Lmao

I'll just sit on my money for a bit more, I imagine the bitcoin will be worth far more than what you're asking soon enough.

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Treaty of Trianon was based on 14 amendments of american president Woodrow Wilson. Each country, kingdom, empire that lose a war bear the consequences. Hungarians are free to support any legal action that want to bring hungarian minority from old kingdom in Hungary, so they will not be a minority anymore. Thing is hungarians from old kingdom who want to live in Hungary are already there. Most of hungarians here dont want to go so they choose to stay and asimilation.

>Nope cash
Only a gypsy or a dumb Palestinian would sell his lands to the enemy.
Borders are drawn in blood.

Short eet brainlet!

of course its still a problem do you think the borders are correct? it is percefctly visible that almost 1/3 of Slovakia and 1/3 of Transylvania was still hungarian
are there people unironically who would transfer millions of people to Hungary from Transylvania?
theese borders only caused conflicts we literally joined WW2 because of this (pic rel)

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With the exception of Slovaks and Croats, all the beneficiaries of Trianon (Serbs, You ciganys, and Hohols) were prime boipucci for the Jannisarry Corps. You obtained demographic superiority only by Hungarians fighting any dying en masse under your suzerain’s domination of Carpathia while you rode their dicks for favorable treatments. Hungary lost much of her population while you rode dick. Own it gypsy.
>As a consequence of the 150 years of constant warfare between the Christian states and Ottomans, population growth was stunted, and the network of ethnic Hungarian medieval settlements, with their urbanized bourgeois inhabitants, perished. The ethnic composition of the territory that had been part of the medieval Kingdom of Hungary was fundamentally changed through deportations and massacres, so that the number of ethnic Hungarians in existence at the end of the Ottoman period was substantially diminished.[8]

>The economic decline of Buda the capital city during the Ottoman conquest characterized by the stagnation of population. The population of Buda was not larger in 1686 than two centuries earlier in the 15th century.[9] The Ottomans allowed the Hungarian royal place to fall into ruins.[10] The Ottomans later transformed the palace into a gunpowder store and magazine,[11] which caused its detonation during the siege in 1686. The Christian Hungarian population significantly shrank in the next decades, due to them fleeing to the Habsburg-ruled Royal Hungary. The number of Jewish and Gypsy immigrants became dominant during the Ottoman rule in Buda.[

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Got a question for you,what do Hungarians think of Vojvodina?
I know there's a sizeable minority of Hungarians there,but Hungary seems to be focusing on Transylvania more,so what do you,your people,and the government think?

>>According to modern estimations, the proportion of Hungarians in the Carpathian Basin was around 80% at the end of the 15th century, and non-Hungarians hardly were more than 20% to 25% of the total population.[15][16][17][18] The Hungarian population began to decrease at the time of the Ottoman conquest,[15][16] The decline of the Hungarians was due to the constant wars, Ottoman raids, famines, and plagues during the 150 years of Ottoman rule.[15][16][19] The main zones of war were the territories inhabited by the Hungarians, so the death toll depleted them much faster than other nationalities.[15][19]
Nigger.
You fucking nigger

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If you guys want to be united with Transylvania we can always annex your country.

>kill all Slavs
>Kill all Romanians
>???
>Enjoy prosperity and peace
>Colonise the universe

You do know Serbia constantly rebelled and had Hajduks fighting the Turks 24\7,right? You can't be dumb enough to think that the Turks were helping us?

Great dreams and aspirations, I'll give you that.

it is sad that you assimilate minorities instead of giving them back their 85% hungarian lands you have no soul romanianfags

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Do the math and try to use your brain. Even if we got back Erdély / Transylvania .. wtf we should do with it? You has wrecked that place. Just the reintegration could cost billions, and we did not talk about their pensions and medical bills.

It would be an economic disaster.

These threads are the typical " i have too much time but have no friends, and desperately would like to talk with anyone asap "

No one in right mind is considering this topic serious nowadays, and especially not when the whole European continent is about to wiped off by niggers and arabs.

Area in yellow is the only area you might be entitled to.

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>Only a gypsy or a dumb Palestinian would sell his lands to the enemy.
The land is filled with traitors anyway so nothing of value will be lost.
>Borders are drawn in blood.
No they arent actually.
I guess maybe Hungary would be interested then.

You do know Serbian orthodoxy ONLY survived in Hungarian lands? You repaid our tolerance and hospitality with treachery. Fuck you!

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I stand with the genocide of romanians in Transylvania those cunts are traitors anyway? Can we make a deal you give money for the land and then we give it?
Considering how you already own most of it where your people are majority here I doubt it will be difficult, heck we can accept payments in rates.

we would totally accept Trianon if it would be legitimate by nationality and not based on the greediness of romanianfaggots
1941 borders would be perfect

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and thats what i want ethnicly based borders i don't want back everything im not that delusional

If you can take it and keep it you're entitled to it, life is a never ending survival, take care of your own and make your life as comfortable
as possible

>and thats what i want ethnicly based borders i don't want back everything im not that delusional
Okay then we could actually talk.
Still no right to Kosice tho, also not Ruthenia. Also Szekelland fucks it all up cause its a stupid enclave, if they lived near the Hungarian border it would be much easier.

Guess Ivan will cuck you aswell then.

Lmao,Turks reopened it in 1557 because a Serb was grand vizier,then closed it a few time because we were constantly fighting them helping YOU to no avail because you did nothing but get your ass handed to you,then when you and the austrians offered us to come and protect you,we did yet you backstabbed us,tried to assimilate and did assimilate many of us,then slowly revoked all the priviledges we had been promised
Tell me why i should care
Implying you could get anything but northernmost vojvodina and Subotica,there's less than 15 thousan Hungarians in Novi sad

Turks were here for 150 years. The Ottoman occupied Hungarian territories were ethnically replaced by the Ottomans, muslims from the Balkans and Anatolia were imported, while the native Hungarian population had to flee to the North or accept death. Now all the Turks and muslims are gone.
Do you know why?
Because once the lands were recaptured, all of them, from the youngest to the oldest were massacred and buried face down in mass graves, or were simply thrown into nearby rivers or swamps. The mosques and holy places got demolished one by one, churches were built on their ruins. A few minarets and bathhouses were left here and there as a war trophy. The few thousand muslims who decided to stay had to convert to Christianity and learn Hungarian or Latin. Owning a Quran resulted in death penalty. Islamic prayer resulted in death penalty. Wearing a turban... well, that didn't result in death penalty: if you were caught, the turban was nailed to your head with 9 inch carpenter nails. It wasn't a death penalty, but no one survived it, I guess Allah is not so generous with his miracles.
100 years, 200 years. Do you think it matters for a country that has been around for more than a millennia? You always act like we're bloodthirsty oppressors, but truth is: we have never really oppressed you. If we had, you wouldn't be here anymore, but at the bottom of the marshes, next to those muslims.
Borders get redrawn every 100 years, you're delusional if you think that the current borders are permanent. Work hard on keeping your current western borders secure, because if it ever gets pushed eastwards, the local romanians will also get pushed downwards, 3 meters deep into the ground.

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Are you fucking retarded? Pec was barely touched by the Ottomans, and Montenegro was never even conquered. In fact, the Serbian monastery of Ostrog was the first Orthodox monastery to acquire a printing press.
On another point, after the battle of Kosovo, the Hungarian king (Hunyad?) prepared an invasion of Serbia, with the aim being conquest of Belgrade. Serbia, still independent at this time, although it lost its entire army and its prince as well, was forced to sign a vassalship agreement with the Turks. The rulers of Serbian lands were more willing to become Ottoman vassals than to be annexed by Hungary, that's how hospitable you were.

The main targets of Hajduks were tax collectors and Jannissary "recruiters", and beside those Serbia was mostly autonomous and self-sustaining.

I am all for it genocide every romanian from Transylvania I hate them anyways, just keep outside of Wallachia and Moldova.

History has always treated us terribly, ethnicitys with such few numbers.
Our goal, Estonians, should be to stick together as one, like we always have no matter the situation

back in the day there were many germans
>implying not all of them would choose to live in Hungary same goes for Transylvania 10% of it was german
pic rel is a modern map as i see

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theese borders would be correct now imo
they will never happen tho
at least if there will be a global conflict we will do anything to get them back

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You would think what the Albanians have done to you would give you some perspective but your low IQ Serbian brain can’t realize it’s own hypocrisy.

Bordergore pls get it out. Szekely fucks it all up.

serbs always fought on the side of turks, it is known
even today serbia helps muslims reach europe

I wouldn't really mind you took all the dark green areas and Subotica after we cleanse Kosovo and reintegrate Montenegro,but you're dreaming if you think you deserve more than that

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You'd think after two world wars you Hungarians would learn a lesson,but your low IQ magyar brains can't realize their own hypocrisy
Fucking source? Our PM and President are cunts and cowards and reviled by 90% of the populace but they aren't stupid enough to settle muslims here,they do suck EU dick and let them pass though,but it's not enough to condemn us,they can't pass through Hungary or Croatia leaving only Romania to pass,and they don't want to settle in Serbia either
Also,fucking lol at us helping the Turks

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>Hugarian land
>literary no Hungarians live there
I guess K-Kosovo is Serbia after all?

This
Besides,Vojvodina Serbs are cunts anyways,if they want to stay in the Hungarian parts let them,but we need Kosovo first,it has more raw resources anyways and we need it to recover our industry

>rulers of Serbian lands were more willing to become Ottoman vassals than to be annexed by Hungary, that's how hospitable you were.
it actually says something about serbs, it says that serbs were always race traitors because their women and men were both having sex with turkish men. a serb would rather be ruled by a muslim turk than governed by a fellow white. this is because serbs love muslim dick

Oblivious
Serbs fought off the Turks in a major battle,Serbs Croats and Bosnians together to stop the Muslim invasion,three brotherly nations with 3 different Christian faiths.
And we won,it was hard but we won,we lost our ruler Lazarus and most of our army,but we killed the Sultan and caused decades of interfighting in the Ottoman empire.
So guess what the Hungarians choose to do:
-Help us recover from this fight
-Offer us protection from the Turks
-Fucking threaten and prepare to invade us
Guess please
That's right it's option three
So Stefan Lazarevic,the most based Serbian ruler,did what he could,and offered his sword in vassalage to the Turks,while constantly scheming behind the Sultan's back and supporting all sides in the civil war so it lasts for as long as possible,then,when the Turks got btfo'd at Ankara by the Timurids,he comes back,offers his sword in vassalage to the Hungarians,and recieves support and land from them. Voila,Turks stopped from conquering Europe for 70 years
70 YEARS
And Serbs love muslim dick apparently

>it has more raw resources
I need a quick rundown

>that one burger that jumps in a discussion about European history without any knowledge of the time and space that was there at that moment
Please just leave, this is not your history

Some of the largest coal and lead mines in the region. The biggest thermal power plant and the largest power grid hub in old Yugoslavia. Also, Metohija basically has Mediterranean climate so you can plant olives, lavender and wine grapes.

>Also,fucking lol at us helping the Turks
im not going to give you a history lesson but MASSIVE serb contingents fought against fellow europeans in the wars. you even defended the turks against Tamerlane. Not even the dirties romanians ever turned against fellow christians like you did. Also please see Bosnia. It's literally a colony of all the serbs who converted and fougut against fellow whites and christians.
And yes, you help the muslims get through even today and hungary has to be the shield of europe again because Serbs are muslim collaborators AGAIN!
Make your excuses but these are facts, ugly and shameful as they are. You are not kebab removers, never were. In the 90s you just killed some fellow serbs who happen to be muslim.

Happened before as well,Tsar Dusan chose to unite all Slavic nations together,along with the Greeks,to combat the Turks,employed by Byzantium,who had grown into a threat.
So he did the impossible,bridged the Serbian Bulgarian hostility and destroyed the Byzantines in several battles,coming close to his goal.
Yet when he was about to achieve his greatest triumph,the Bosnians attacked him,then when he was about to conquer Bosnia the Greeks rebelled,then when he was about to either defeat Bosnia or Greece,when the Greeks recognized him as Emperor,the Hungarians attacked.
Notice a pattern?
That's right,every time we Serbs come close to fighting the Turks someone else has to dick us over,when we FINALLY got the pitched battle we wanted we kicked their ass,and then,well look at

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Tamerlane was a fucking maniac,yet Stefan Lazarevic only fought because if he didn't,Serbia would be razed,did you not read what i wrote?
Also,we were the only part of the Turkish army to even do anything against Tamerlane,fighting Mongolian Cavalry head on and shattering them,and btfoing their Horse Archers
Also,an American giving me a History lesson abut my own country aayyyyy lmao
Besides,Bosnians were either Orthodox,Catholics or fucking Bogumil neo Gnostic faggots,the word Buggery or Sodomy literally comes from them,make your own conclusion

>this is not your history
im a hungarian studying in america you fucking pesant.
My family goes back 700 years and every generation from 1400 to 1700 we gave sons and brothers to the cause of keeping the muslims out of europe. My grandfather 9 generations back was a count and a commander in vienna during the 1683 siege. I bet you can't take your family back more than 3 generations serb shitskin

no hungarians?
kys
but first check statistics tard

Read this

An Albania divided between Greece and Serbia is what makes my peepee hard at night.

>hungarian land was taken
fuck off, slavonija was never yours to begin with

>serb despots constantly treating with sultans
>ottoman raiders constantly passing unchecked into Hungary via Serb lands
>a bloo bloo why Hungarians securing their border
>fast forward 500+ years
>afghans, syrians and pakis wandering unchecked through Serbia into Hungary
>literally have to build a fucking wall because they’d be so butthurt if we attempted to secure their lands from the Muslim marauders

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An absolute tiny Albanian rump state centered around the worst fucking bongoland mountains of Albania used as a fucking national park for all the negroid Albanians who want to live there,and an exodus of those that don't into Germany an Britain and France so they can learn to hate them just as we can is what makes my peepee hard,i don't want to murder them i just want to take them back to the stone age where they belong,failing that ship them to Turkey or Africa so these can be even bigger shitholes

what a bullshit cope, you sound like a jew complaining that everyone hates him for no reason when he got expelled from 100+ countries
Also, how fucking stupid are you serbs to attack christian byzantium to fight the turks. You serbs are full of shit. They lie to you in school because your entire history is shameful

No shitskin is settling in our land,and we'd get hit by sanctions by the EU if we refused.
Fuck them,let them taste their own medicine
True but neither were any lands here really,they immigrated from Asia
But i think Hungarians are pretty based so i'm ok with them having areas where they are absolute majority

>I bet you can't take your family back more than 3 generations serb shitskin
First of all i'm not even Serb, im just partially Slovak (with Hungarian and KarpatenDeutche influences) so that's why i got into this thread.
Second of all i can trace my direct family well into the 17th century and married families even further. Sorry that i implied that you are a burger but you really sounded like one:
>"Hurr durr stubid Serbs love muslim dick hahaha cause some infographs told me so right guys''

Dude,read the fucking things,the Greeks were fighting eachother and paying the Turks,sometimes IN FUCKING LAND,they gave away Asia Minor to these savages because they were too busy killing eachother,have you not heard the term "Byzantine" in politics?
Dusan sought to put an end to that,that's why he almost begged the pope for a Crusade and considered accepting Catholicism just to save the Balkans from the Turks,you inbred Hungarian chink

Fun fact: the Hungarian wall is actually set several hundred meters inside Hungary so the marauders are technically being released into Hungary (nowhere to go but back whence they came into Serbia) to avoid Serbian legal action if we deported them directly to where they came from (Serbia)

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That's smart ngl. Also, show flag.

Sorry, I think this is all a giant cope. Serbs were the MOST willing servants of the ottomans in europe.

Please tell me why only the serbs and albanians became muslims? not bulgarians, not greeks, not romanians, not croats, not hungarians, just albanians and sebs. why?

>areas where they are absolute majority
Sure, but Slavonija isn't one of them.

Don't talk bullshit, you guys deported them back to their country of entry into the EU, usually Bulgaria but also Greece.

Cry some more, we were first in Transylvania. If Romania and Hungary went to war now we would crush you mongols

Only Bosnians and Albanians you mean?
When i say Bosnians i mean Bogumils,and Albanians are shitskin niggeroids anyways
The bogumils hated other christians,that's why they converted,most of our wars against the Ottomans we fought against them,then when we wiped them out the Turks would attack our worn out rebels and crush them. Kinda worked,but then 1804 came around and their true professional armies were fighting Russians,so they took their second rate Bulgarian,Albanian and Bosnian armies,and well,10 years of independent Serbia happened
Calling Serbs willing is stupid,the Greeks and the Bulgarians were far more willing then us considering we were the first to have a true independent state from them,hell we were outside Turkish borders from 1718-1738
Not to mention we rebelled against the Turks when they marched on Vienna,both times,leading to mass Serbian exodus every time,and then

this is the ugly truth no Serb can face
this is why they have to bombard every thread trying to convince everyone how based they are
as shakespeare says 'methinks the lady doth protest too much'

This,i don't really have an opinion on the whole transylvannia issue,but the Romanian army is at least twice as strong as the Hungarian one
Cope harder,seething mutt

>they gave away Asia Minor
more like they got conquered after losing a massive battle at manzikert. holy shit ur stupid. must be those serbian schools filling your head with piss propaganda.
And even after the greeks got defeated they never joined the turkish armies to attack other christians, but Serbs did. Greeks didnt convert to shitskin, but Serbs did.

Romania has the second highest rate of emigration in the world after Syria. It’s so bad that their ambassador was begging for two million Pakis just a couple weeks ago. We only have to bide our time and continue Orban’s Baby making policies. Romania is genociding itself while Hungarians once again are left to defend Europe alone.

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we were first
>literally not
we would win now
>with stolen land its always easy now go back fucking your goat shitskin romanianfaggot

You inbred hungarian degenerate,Manzikert was at 1071,after the First crusade and the Komnenoi restoration Byzantium held the entire asia minor coast until the angelos dynasty and the cucksraders came and knocked them down,still they held on to much of asia minor until the OTTOMANS came,the turks i was referencing,not the fucking SELJUKS who were the ones at Manzikert you iliterate amateur fuck
Also,literally millions of Greeks in Asia Minor converted with time,that's why you have Turks with mediterranean features,you mongoloid degenerate

Pic related is the Byzantine empire 100 years after Manzikert

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That's what happens when you lose a war; you get unfavorable consequences.

And this one is 1300 ad,see the Beylik of Osman?
That's what would become the Ottoman empire,due to Greeks being utter backstabing cunts when it comes to power

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