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Did christianity kill the west?
Isaac Wright
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Blake Williams
Athiests, Jews, and Muslims are the ones trying to kill us. Christians are trying to save us
Liam Baker
Capitalism did
All the west's problems started as soon amerimutts liberated europe. Germany is the best example
The part russia controled for 40 years is whiter than the "free" "democratic" west germany
Charles Stewart
did christianity pave the way for capitalism and democracy?
Brody Torres
there really is no such thing as "the West."
if anything, the Protestant Reformation revealed cultural, linguistic, and ethnic fault lines that have existed on the European continent for hundreds if not thousands of years between different European tribes and ethnicities.
the Protestant Reformation, for example was basically Germanic speaking northern Europe declaring independence from Latin speaking southern Europe.
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Jaxon Hill
Our Christian ancestors are the reason we have what we have now. Now it's their godless ancestors thinking it's their's to give away.
Jayden Martinez
The current pope is not a real Christian he's the anti Christ
Wake up fag
Levi Harris
At that point christianity lost its relevancy compared to the middle ages but technicly its harder to build a consumerist society when the population is deeply religious.
Gavin Watson
>Athiests, Jews, and Muslims are the ones trying to kill us
Last I checked, neither of those people forced Christians to stop practicing their faity.
You can't blame outside forces for the decline of Christianity when people are voluntarily choosing to abandon it because, let's face it, materialism and degeneracy are fun.
We are choosing what is happening right now. It's not the fault of atheists, Jews, and Muslims that we are choosing instant gratification over long term hard earned goals and achievements.
Ryder Sanders
christianity and monarchy made europe great with hard work over 1000 years
capitalism mutated it and democracy made it a walking, rotting corpse
Nathan Cooper
>did christianity pave the way for capitalism and democracy?
No.
traditionally, Christianity upheld monarchist theocracy in the context of feudalism.
Capitalism and democracy, in this context, are seen as rebellion against the church.
Many traditionalist scholars consider the Renaissance and Enlightenment to be grievous crimes against Christian values
Connor Phillips
Christianity killed the entire America's. Very literally. They wiped out entire cultures for God. Sound familiar? Abrahamic religions are a plague.
Parker Evans
Most based thing I read all day.
James Thomas
Anti-logos Jews killed the West.
Embrace Christ, convert the Jews to accept Jesus Christ Lord and Saviour.
Adrian Rogers
Jacob Jones
I'm not so sure that feudalism is necessarily the best form of government, though. I would say that there are valid reasons for rebelling against feudalism, but that is not to say that the Christian faith ought to be abandoned. It stands to reason that there is something to be said for the problems brought up by egregious inequality and corrupt leadership, even if that system is officially sanctioned by church leadership.
Jaxson Fisher
nuke the vatican and the mods. nigger lovers.
Ian Nelson
the Vatican is already prophesied to be destroyed. You don't need to nuke it. God will choose an appropriate method
Daniel Martinez
A hungry brown man is at your door. What is the Christian decision?
>"Fuck off shitskin, go starve!"
>"Come in brother, let me feed you and clothe you as Jesus would do. He does not see race, we are all united in Him"
A brown christian man and an atheist white both wish to marry your white daughter. Which is the christian decision?
>"user, you might be white but you are not a christian. Sorry, but you cannot marry my daughter because you reject Christ and His teachings."
>"Jose, you are a man of good faith. I know you will raise my brown grandkids to be good christians, which is all that truly matters as Christ had said."
The irony here is that as destruction as capitalism and democracy have become, they are ultimately preferable to church authority as the renaissance would clearly evidence. All the innovation, art, cultural value, expansion and colonial empires that began as soon as the church started losing power... weird! haha
Bentley Bailey
>nearly 1500 years of non-cucked christians
>suddenly martin luther
>slow slide to cuckery begins
hmmmm
Luke Mitchell
>All the innovation, art, cultural value, expansion and colonial empires
these are inseparable from degeneracy. You can't have enlightenment mindset and purity, you have to choose. The idea of progress itself is what corrupts people
Kevin Roberts
>All the innovation, art, cultural value, expansion and colonial empires that began as soon as the church started losing power... weird
Mostly true, but the colonial empires tended to spread Christianity in different ways.
In another twist to this, traditionalist scholars believe that the feudal Dark Ages were actually a Golden Age for the church. While the Renaissance and Enlightenment are considered to be grievous crimes against Christian values, there is the side effect that it enables Christian authority to a certain extent (so long as that authority facilitated colonial power).
Bentley Campbell
It has been speculated that Luther was himself an esoteric occultist who was affiliated with the Rosicrucians. His personal seal was just one example of evidence people use. His rebellion against the church, his teachings, and his theological opinions were seen as other examples of esoteric influence.
Notice how Luther's personal seal almost resembles the inverted pentagram of the Baphomet Mendes goat
Justin Green
Behold the delusion of the christcuck. All the beauty of Europe is disgusting and impure, knowledge of the universe is inherently evil (remember the Eden story?) and of course only the church is the solution.
Cringe and bluepilled.
They spread christianity to shitskins hordes who now cross our borders, clothed and fed by christian charities and protected by our government's laws influenced by christian morals. Traditionalist scholars are correct that the feudal Dark Ages were the best thing that happened to the church, much like how a room full of doped up nine-year-olds is the best thing that could happen to a Hollywood producer.
Christopher Reyes
This
Le jew well-poisonner
Jaxon Lewis
>They spread christianity to shitskins hordes who now cross our borders, clothed and fed by christian charities and protected by our government's laws influenced by christian morals
...and this enables colonial power.
Cheap low wage labor helps to enable an economic system that the modern colonialists (bankers) profit off of
Jason Gray
No. Separation of church and state did.
Ian Kelly
this
Wyatt Long
Catholics are not the same as actual christians
Noah Reed
>quasi pagan idolators
>spread the word by steel and fire
>burn pacifists
>btfo the caliphates
>purge jews
Das rite.
James Garcia
Catholics were and still are the original Christians. All other denominations are just larping.
inb4 Catholics are idolatrous
inb4 salacious references to scandals that have become cliche
inb4 misunderstanding the errors and crimes human beings as reflecting the true values of the church
Grayson Young
that might be true, but that separation of church and state could also reflect a bigger underlying problem
Tyler Moore
despite our bluepilled church, christians are still almost 3 times more likely than non-christians to vote right-wing.
and Christians are BY FAR the most likely group to support nationalism, anti-abortion and anti-feminism
fpbp.
Kayden Martinez
this
Ryan Martinez
No losing Christianity killed the west
Jonathan Lewis
Catholicism is inherently nationalist. Bump.
Benjamin Brooks
>technicly its harder to build a consumerist society when the population is deeply religious
i dont think religion has anything to it unless you are very very hardcore, id say some liberal atheists are less consumerist that normal religious people, for instance the liberals can become vegetarian, environmentalist, minimalist, organic etc etc
Colton Gutierrez
>did christianity kill the west?
No, jew subversion of it (along with all other western institutions) did.
Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.
Read through this thread, it's all there.
Use this info to redpill others. Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.
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Dominic Brown
Landon Morales
what killed the west? or right the big bad immigrants, who wrote the laws and opened the gates? trust me christian or not it wouldnt have changed anything, capitalists did it, now enjoy your GDP growth... or right you are a pleb, you wont enjoy anything
Connor Green
Atheism did. Atheists are statistically proven to be the most degenerate group in existence.
Benjamin Adams
This satanic pope sure wants to kill the west. Impeach that pedo sucker.
Thomas Fisher
No, it's just they're that poorly educated, they're all poor and the religious institutions take what pittance the stupid fuckers make.
Hudson King
Nope it has saved the West and if you believe anything otherwise you should remove the are mussels and listen to the sound of the blue moon screaming and howling at the blue moon so look within yourself for the true answer for only it is when you find God you will find the true you because once in every 10,000 years a man is chosen from the bow of a woman because a spear is what she will not but spare the soul of the departure of the body by relinquishing whatever might distill your fear and instill fear in those that give fear to those who do my giving back and moving forward by understanding our steps despite whatever way they might go but that is the true intention of the book that is read by none understood by few and worshipped by 1
Charles Sanders
>What was National Sociaist Germany and the 12 years of unprecedented spiritual and scientific advancement
You have't revisitied the moon since the last German scientists you kidnapped died of old age, burger scum.
Ayden Ramirez
Once in every day during the blue Crescent Moon you shall see the world as it really is from the distance of 30 centimeters for only then there is peace tranquility and clarity in one sound for not to milk that I own from the cow of the Sacred caste for the holy Noble gods shall reign forever as the belief of the Sinisterism of the one who chooses to challenge the will of the lord for thy soul shall suffer a great toll of pain ought to be taken from the spirit of man
Evan Torres
>more likely to vote right wing
Are you really making a case for the pro-zionist liberal capitalist political parties of Europe? Dumbass. To vote right in Europe is as wrong as voting left. Both are anti-European.
Jacob Wilson
Christianity is the religion of purity because every Christian on Earth carries the cross and as he walks through the valley through the shadow of death he takes a look at his book realises there is nothing left to do because he shall blast and laugh so lonely even those who do not believe like your mom might think that your mind is gone
Logan Ramirez
Bremen and North-Rhine Westphalia really are shitholes, flooded with immigrants and (sand)niggers.
But fuck you for putting that face on Bavaria, we and the "Eastern" Germans are the most conservative people here and actually try to preserve our culture
Jaxon Fisher
i guess i found my new favorite Jow Forums poster
Nathaniel Robinson
Biblical prophecy is being fulfullied. It'll over soon(2060) with a total defeat for the enemies of God.
Gavin Ward
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Nathaniel Adams
I don't like Christianity but I wouldn't say it killed the West, considering Europe was doing pretty well with Christianity for the past 500 years
Carter Taylor
>napoleon lead the revolution
Kevin Gomez
yes, they lost like faggots to turks
Eli Carter
>buying $24 asparagus water at whole foods
>frugal
Schlomo is right. Church became an individualist endeavor once separated from state. I think the loss of cultural influence by the church is tied to protestant dissent, and rise of liberal ideals shaping a parliamentary nation state. The obsolescence of the King begat the obsolescence the church.
Ryan Scott
Nope, when the christian church fallen in late middle ages, the technological progress actually improved, there is nothing good I can say about Christianity, It's jewish garbage.
Eli Rogers
It is jewish garbage but blaming it for killing the west means choosing your scapegoat and ignoring a lot of other important reasons
Julian Brown
>tied to protestant dissent
but catholics literally have a kike faggot loving commie pope with a fetish for kissing nigger feet
Colton Watson
>this kills the crypto-pagancuck thread
Kek
William Rogers
Then explain to me why almost every branch of Christianity is so insistent in filling your country with shitskins and LGBT degenerate scum? This is deep rooted into the very core of Western culture, you can't avoid this without Warping the west into something completely different.
Julian Gray
>vatican is a subverted institution
And?
Lincoln King
>mexican intellectuals
Wyatt Hill
no
Atheist,muslims and degenerate pagans did
Eli Jackson
> Did Christianity killed the West
Jewish Bolshevism and Communism killed the West, Christianity was the bulwark of these poisonous kike ideologies until 1945.
Pagancucks are just facilitating the kike agenda to destroy the white race.
Camden Ward
No. Look up Christian Socialism.
Jaxon Anderson
>did christianity kill the west?
No, it's the opposite way around, the west killed Christianity.
Christianity was at it's theological height in it's early days in the middle east, you had theologians such as Saint Issac The Syrian, and Saint John of Damascus ect. But as Islam took over the middle east and the torch of Christian theology was given to the west they started to fuck everything up, heresies from the Catholic Church causing the schism was bad enough, but than you had absolute retarded Protestants coming along and making everything even worse.
The state of decay the west is in now is being caused by the west ruining Christianity.
James Bennett
the jews did. Now we have less Christianity and more degeneracy and jew influence in media and society.
Owen Clark
Based and extremely redpilled
Kayden Price
Yes, Christianity is a rot that infects as many people as possible before leaving them weak and defenseless to spread to the next race. The original Semitic adherents don't exist anymore, and most of the new converts are shitskins or niggers.
Adam Phillips
Catholics and mainline Protestants have some rot to cut out and some clothes to clean. The oil is running nearly dry.