Capitalism is bas-
>Chamber of Commerce Demands More Immigration: ‘U.S. Is Out of People’
>Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Tom Donahue said the U.S. needed more legal immigration so that corporations and business secure a never-ending flow of cheaper labor, claiming the country is “out of people.”
breitbart.com
The failure of $15 minimum wage in Seattle and other areas shows that the current federal minimum wage is in equilibrium with the entire economy.
So yes, if you can't get the established populace to work down and accept their fate then you'll definitely need some niggers and spics to fill the rosters.
fml
There has never been a shortage of labor past the year 1900. It's just corps and employers wanting an ever increasing share of the profits which means they steal more and more from workers paychecks.
Increase wages and you will have a workforce, for any field.
Finance sector is too big, reduce by 2/3rds and suddenly you don't need more slaves
The chamber of commerce member companies should hire the unemployed people or offer candidates decent wages.
> implying it is about capitalism
> implying there is no flow of immigrants into North Korea because it is socialist, not because it is a shithole
> he doesn't know that socialist countries were taking immigrants from Vietnam during labour shortage period
translation: we might have to give employees a real wage increase for the first time in 50 years and we're so fucking greedy that we can't stand the thought.
What, locals can't afford to work with wages that pay for meal and barrack styled accommodation without covering any other bills or possible loans?
No worries, fresh third worlders can!
>Business has one goal, maximize profit
>Business wants lower wages so it makes more money
>Business brings in cheap labor to make that happen
>LE NOT REAL CAPITALISM
oy vey i guess we should continue invading our own country
Bump
RAISE WAGES?!?!?!
Say it ain't so! That sounds like commie talk to me... Bootstraps bucko, use them.
tpbp
Chamber of Commerce = Wall Street Kikes
>other areas shows that the current federal minimum wage is in equilibrium with the entire economy.
i think you need to die
This has nothing to do with minimum wage and more to do with supply and demand. Labor is sky rocketing due to supply and demand making the ridiculous minimum wage law useless. Importing spics and niggers to try to remedy the supply situation only serves to make shit even worse and enabling shit-tier companies.
Many higher end employers are hiring people way above all minimum wage laws and the only ones complaining are those companies who rely on cheap labor to operate.
>Many shit-tier companies are going under because of this and that is a good thing.
>Stores are closing down in the ghettos because the cost of hiring employees out weighs the crap margins they were getting in the first place in these places, and that's a good thing.
>I'm actually seeing low income areas turning into nice areas now since people actually have money to spend and somehow this is a bad thing?
>I've seen more high end industries moving into the area and the slave shops disappearing
>Illegals are considering to move back to where they came from because the better companies are using verification methods that catch their bullshit
The only ones complaining about the lack of employees are the ones that can't hire anyone at the prices that other employers are hiring people for. Those places are usually shit-tier. It's about time they die. I have no problem hiring people for $20 an hour or more and I'm still making a huge profit and I'm in manufacturing. I'm seeing my shit-tier competitors fall off the map and it's great!
The Chamber of Commerce demanding more immigration is just proof there is collusion with some shit-tier industries that want to keep the status-quo and innovation out.
>been constantly looking for work with my engineering degree
>Still haven't been taken serious for over two years
Wtf
Out of people my ass. My tiny town went from nice and quiet, to Somalians and Hispanics EVERYWHERE. I can't even go for a nice quiet drive anymore without getting pissed off at all the traffic.
You won't yet, not until visa abuse stops.
this is all wallstreet's fault. we need to end publicly traded companies.
The real redpill is that most of these degenerate companies making degenerate products should not exist in the first place. We don't need 1000 different major companies making nigger shoe products, or 1000 different makeup companies to cater to degenerate roasties.
In a non kiked world, where the Axis powers won WW2, these degenerate companies would not exist. There would be no demand for their degenerate products. And thus, no need to import millions of low IQ shitskins to work those low wage jobs.
I'm still waiting on responses from job openings from half a year ago. The fuck is going on is more than h1b1niggas.
Basically yeah. Wage suppression.
>I have no problem hiring people for $20 an hour or more and I'm still making a huge profit and I'm in manufacturing.
>t.
I agree 100%. Not to mention products these days are made so cheaply, and purposely for a timed failure. There's no pride in any of it. My 25 year old washer & dryer work perfectly fine still with some maintenance. I decided to "upgrade" and the new GARBAGE made weird noises, didn't work as well, and washer started leaking which turned out to be a manufacturing error. Returned both and put my older "ugly" appliances back.
I don't think there's any escape from a mass-produced consumerist society though. Most people want cheaper and newer goods. Newer generations are accustomed to simply replacing all their stuff every year. Cloths, phones, TVs, you name it.
Based and redpilled.
I can't wait til these traitors get the rope.
Chamber of Commerce would be better as a chamber of gas
> >Business has one goal, maximize profit
They have to obey the law in the process
Pic related.
we are not out of people just cheap labor
START PAYING PEOPLE BETTER AND YOU GET THEIR LABOR. REMOVE SPICS AND EVERYONES WAGES GOES UP.
>‘U.S. Is Out of People’
Yeah, right
>Reduce supply side of the economy to benefit mega state controlled ones.
Why do you niggers constantly crave to be the Jew?
Capitalists would say that obeying the law is unjust if it stifles the free market :^)
And also, even within the bounds of the law what I said still applies.
You will never get wages to be higher if capitalists bring in cheap workers from elsewhere forevermore.
Business only cares about money, not culture, not the nation, not crime rates, or any of that.
This is why capitalism is a joke and should be regulated heavily by the Government in order to prevent businesses hurting the nation's wellbeing.
Capitalists screech at the thought of that.
why not... cut taxes and fees so that americans can afford the cost of living and thus reproduce?
The government is a huge parasite sucking the life out of all working Americans.
It's a good system if you want to destroy a country.
>wages going up
Absolutely not, our wages are TOO HIGH already!
> “Our taxes are too high. Our wages are too high. We have to compete with other countries.”
nytimes.com
Nope we are full
Under a reasonable government businesses follow the law or get sued.
It shouldn't be regulated heavily, you need a few regulations here and there to ban spreading degeneracy and hurting the nation.
The fact that they focus on profit is a good thing because it increases productivity and you make profit by providing something which people want to use or consume.
There's always a shortage of labor to these people so long as there isn't an infinite supply of people working for free.
There would still be a relatively free market. But my point is that in a healthy homogenous society there would be no demand for many vices of today. For example, people would be against pornography, so therefore porn companies would not exist due to the low demand. Or, in a society with no niggers, there would be no demand for gangster rap music. So companies that produce gangster rap would not exist. And so on and so forth....
Instead, this healthy, non kiked society would have companies that produced meaningful things. Relating to engineering, space travel, infrastructure, traditional values, etc.
The companies and products they produce in a Capitalistic society is directly linked to the people and the culture in that society.
>be programmer
>out of work for two years
>see more jobs for h1bs posted than jobs for citizens
>see Indian companies popping up everywhere
>see them get fined over and over for discriminatory hiring practices
>they still do it
>"there's a labor shortage"
Yeah.
How about the fact that men and women both have to work every waking moment now, for wages that have not risen with inflation since the 70s?
This has destroyed the nuclear family much more than half of the 'degeneracy' that Jow Forums memes about non stop. No one can afford a house to start a family in, they've all got loads of debt from college, they're all having to work non stop and them capitalist scum like the chamber of commerce turns around and says 'we're out of people :) we need lower wages'
The Rust Belt used to be a good place before the capitalists outsourced the work because the Far East is cheaper than America.
The same is happening with India and now it's going to happen with automation, we're already seeing that happen.
Stuff like the opioid crisis, broken homes, the addiction to a cocktail of medication from big pharma is all the result of the capitalist class fucking over regular people for decades. All these other things are secondary to that. If people don't have gainful employment and enough money to keep themselves going then their lives become shit and all hell follows from that.
Tucker Carlson mentions this stuff quite often these days.
You live in a country that was founded while not homogeneous.
Kys
You like to show me the door you meme flag piece of shit. The average wage here is $19 an hour in my area and I'm above average. Most of Southern California average pay is now above $15 an hour and you're not going to hire anyone for less unless that employee is a total fucking moron. Productivity is important to me and I need productive employees.
The only ones being affected by this are shit-tier companies that never grow or contribute much of anything to the community.
Tucker often goes too far tbqh.
> The Rust Belt used to be a good place before the capitalists outsourced the work because the Far East is cheaper than America.
Not necessary bad, and you can thank unions with their endless demands.
> This has destroyed the nuclear family much more than half of the 'degeneracy' that Jow Forums memes about non stop.
Family was destroyed by family courts
> debt from college
Created by the state
> How about the fact that men and women both have to work every waking moment now, for wages that have not risen with inflation since the 70s?
WORKING = BAD
> big pharma
Relies on intellectual property which is a state-enforced monopoly
> it's going to happen with automation
PROGRESS = BAD
> All these other things are secondary to that.
A lot of things are caused by the state involvement, but regulations are good as long as they directly address something clearly harmful and aren't just destructive stuff like min wage laws
> If people don't have gainful employment and enough money to keep themselves going then their lives become shit and all hell follows from that.
No one is going to give you free money.
What supply and demand are you talking about?
>the only ones complaining are those companies who rely on cheap labor to operate.
False, and you're contradicting yourself. You've sold 3 generations the social delusion of manual labor being for "poor people" and you have no labor to fill the gap. This same labor is low-wage or relatively low-wage compared to even low level 'intellectual work'.
>The only ones complaining about the lack of employees are the ones that can't hire anyone at the prices that other employers are hiring people for.
This makes no sense. There is no collusion, job market participation is within 2% of Great Depression levels adjusted PC and U6 unemployment is generally believed to be above 15%. People are unwilling to work for less.
Boeing bitches about lack of manufacturing labor yet their janitors and landscapers require security clearances and a decade of 'experience'. Meanwhile no sane individual over 18 years old will sacrifice their dignity to say they're a janitor for Boeing even if they're making more than a janitor at a hospital.
They've "all" got loads of debt from college. 20% of the country has a 4 year degree and the majnority of those people are women. 70%+ of college graduates last year were women. Shut the fuck about "all" with your pathetic college debt whining.
Maybe... Just let the wages increase?
>Created by the state
Yes and no. The state only enabled the institutions to inflate education costs to where they are now.
It's ironically the best example of corporate greed gone wrong.
NO you filthy antisemite JUST LET THEM IN fucking goy
>Capitalists would say that obeying the law is unjust if it stifles the free market :^)
It does stifle the market.
>You will never get wages to be higher if capitalists bring in cheap workers from elsewhere forevermore.
They are never as productive or able to keep good quality control as high end industries and never will be. People choose to work at these places for shit wages because of many factors, mainly because they are illegal. Removing those laws would actually be an improvement as many of those with illegal status would be on equal grounds. This is one of the reasons why California actually has illegals working with higher wages as they made illegals have the same rights as every other employee and removed the fear of deportation. Not that I agree with such policy, but it certainly has had a drastic affect on labor as illegals now are able to negotiate their prices. They still should be deported.
Why do you think all these shit-tier companies are moving out of California to places like Wyoming? Why do you think there are a shit ton of illegals in those places now?
>Business only cares about money, not culture, not the nation, not crime rates, or any of that.
It all depends on the owner and management. Old man Kaiser created Kaiser steel and created Kaiser Hospital for his employees. Krupps the same thing. None of them were anti-capitalists, they just saw their productivity increased when taking care of their employees, which goes back to your original correct idea that businesses want to maximize profits and this is the way to do it. The ones abusing employees are just the dumb businesses and they're free to operate that way, but any real competitor shows up and they're the first ones to screech and want anti-capitalist laws in place.
>average wage
>above average
>average pay
I wonder why shills keep using this term... really activates the almonds
>We have a lot of low wage workers willing to do more for less than minimum wage, while the typical middle class American can’t survive on the same wages because they refuse to live like cockroaches.
>Clearly the solution to this labor problem is to import more cockroaches!
A fucking yid.
The Chamber of Commerce is kike lobbyist central.
>you can thank unions with their endless demands.
Endless demands like not wanting to work for increasingly bad pay.
The work was outsourced because it's cheaper in the Far East, unions or not (unless you think sweatshop tier work is a good thing )
>Family was destroyed by family courts
In part yes, but people having enough money to run their own lives is much more serious than that.
Feminism was a psyop to make men and women both work by the way.
>Created by the state
Employers demand degrees for all sorts of jobs which do not need them in any sane world
>WORKING = BAD
Yes, working every waking moment is bad.
This obsession with work at all costs is a terrible thing for society. Both the husband and wife have to work all day long now much more than they used to. This is at great detriment to the mental wellbeing of all involved and the raising of children.
Again, feminism was a psyop to help the capitalist class.
>Relies on intellectual property which is a state-enforced monopoly
Would happen anyway. The idea of monopolies only existing because of the state is a lolbertarian meme with no basis in reality except in very niche cases.
>PROGRESS = BAD
>'progress'
Yes, 'progress' is bad if it's going to put 100 million people out of work over the span of 10 - 20 years. That's going to be a fucking disaster and it needs to be dealt with or we're all screwed.
> regulations are good as long as they directly address something clearly harmful and aren't just destructive stuff like min wage laws
>minimum wage is 'destructive'
Typical capitalist. You'd be fine with people working for a dollar a day in sweatshops because they 'chose' to do it I'm sure.
>No one is going to give you free money.
You're right, you need to be a Silicon Valley guy or an Amazon CEO to get free money from the state.
> they just saw their productivity increased when taking care of their employees
The care was poor and only good enough to get people back to work.
Look everyone the US is running out of suckers that don’t want to work for peanuts. Friend is a truck driver. Makes $40k a year. Should be making $70-$80k a year. He would be but all the fucking H1B visas fucking that shit up. I know it would raise shipping costs. But to say shortage? There is no shortage, just fucking a portical system that’s fucking us all. Oh and BTW high school diploma here making six figs and have to fight off pussy.
Us isnt put of people.
Almost no nigger is working
And we have wayyy to many of them.
Just cut their welfare or force them to work for welfare - problem solved.
I wonder why shills like you have to show up with your BS.
>Feminism was a psyop to make men and women both work by the way.
>Both the husband and wife have to work all day long now much more than they used to
Now the state can raise the child. And in many cases the state claims ownership of the child.
But somehow letting your kid cross dress and take hormones isn't child abuse while religious homeschooling is grounds for loss of parental rights.
>350 million
>out of people
these fucking circles man
Conservatives are correct, of course, in viewing communism as a serious danger, an evil which should be opposed. But — and this is the essence of the matter — conservatives oppose communism for the wrong reasons. They see it, first and foremost, as a threat to free enterprise: a threat to their bank accounts. What they really hate about communism is that it is collectivist (i.e., that it subordinates the welfare of the individual to the welfare of the community — at least, in theory) and that it is statist (i.e., that it vests ultimate authority in a highly centralized party-government apparatus instead of in more-or-less autonomous local governments).
But if collectivism and statism were the only aspects of communism we had to worry about, I, for one, would welcome it with open arms, as an infinitely superior alternative to the Jew-ridden, minority-coddling, culture-defiling, soul-stifling, filth-wallowing, corruption-breeding, decadence-producing, race-destroying monstrosity of a System which now squats so unwholesomely in the power centers of our nation (and which, of course, is also collectivist and statist, in the worst sense of the words, even if not so forthrightly as the Kremlin).
No, the real evils of communism are that it, like capitalism, is alien to us in origin and essence; and it, also like capitalism, is racially destructive. The doctrine of communism was born in the alien mind of Karl Marx; and it, as a doctrine which interprets history and all social phenomena solely in economic terms, predicates the primacy of gold over blood.
>nigga fails math
>pic related
Maybe if K-12 didnt simply teach people English and Geography for 13 years they would have a better workforce of citizens.
>complains about capitalism when talking about the government
Send better shills?
It's still better than nothing.
>Crap, my torso got slice open in an industrial accident
>Good thing we have a company hospital, they can staple me shut and save me
>Wait, what do you mean I'll be permanently scarred for the rest of my life? REEEEE I'D RATHER BE DEAD
Obama tried workfare. It didn't work.
C of C
Purveyors of generational debt slavery.
Automate things and pay your human workers more to learn how run the robots.
Simple.
They write the laws.
Surprised and disappointed there hasnt been a gas chamber of commerce pun
> Yes, 'progress' is bad if it's going to put 100 million people out of work over the span of 10 - 20 years.
We should help these people if they are incapable of finding another real job(as long as they promise not to breed like rabbits), but it is a good thing overall.
> Endless demands like not wanting to work for increasingly bad pay.
You get paid how much you deserve
> The work was outsourced because it's cheaper in the Far East
And it isn't necessary bad, are trade is just like free stuff falling from the sky, the only problem is that people weren't helped to transition into other fields. Tho I don't feel much sorry for them because they deserved it for unions.
> but people having enough money to run their own lives is much more serious than that.
No, people can be poor and still have a functional families where wife obeys the husband.
> Feminism was a psyop to make men and women both work by the way.
It was just a small and by far not the most destructive part of feminism. Not saying that it was good tho, state should've banned females from most of the positions of employment. Btw, at the same time female involvement in the workforce was the policy of socialist countries as well, so it is not that it was the fault of capitalism
> Employers demand degrees for all sorts of jobs which do not need them in any sane world
The price of degrees is inflated because state throws money and guarantees loans to everyone.
> Yes, working every waking moment is bad.
You have weekends, you can work part time, you can find a job with a better schedule. No one is going to give you stuff if you won't work.
> Typical capitalist. You'd be fine with people working for a dollar a day in sweatshops because they 'chose' to do it I'm sure.
People work for what they deserve, again, you are asking for free stuff(getting higher wage on the expense of the consumers and higher paid workers)
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Federal minimum wage was created in an attempt to curb cheap labor and property monopolization.
If you can't afford to hire more people, your business can't expand, and your ability to acquire property can't expand with it.
If you're bringing in immigrants or paying people under the minimum wage to enrich yourself YOU'RE CHEATING THE SYSTEM.
Fuck off degenerates. Reap what you sow. If you don't like minimum wage, repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
> You're right, you need to be a Silicon Valley guy or an Amazon CEO to get free money from the state.
Corporations getting tax cuts =/= CEOs getting free money.
People like you clearly shouldn't vote
>Business brings in cheap labor to make that happen
They don't work and, when they do, it's illegal to be employing them. How about encouraging white people to reproduce? Why is that never considered?
>Many higher end employers are hiring people way above all minimum wage laws and the only ones complaining are those companies who rely on cheap labor to operate.
They also supplement with oversea workers. Try again.
WTF! I hate being allowed to own private property now
>Higher end companies
>Using overseas labor
Please, tell me how a shipyard based in South Florida that services megayachts can use overseas labor to service said megayachts?
Because politicians in a modern liberal democracy are ok with it. I agree that modern rolling class is very bad.
Did the niggers starve to death ? No ? Then welfare want really cut, ergo Obama did NOT 'try' it actually.
Race to the bottom of globalism sourcing and capitalism. If they don't import more cheap labor companies just move overseas and get the cheaper labor directly. No trade protections, weak leaders everywhere is why this is going on.
>fags who have no idea how inflation works
Yeah, $20/hour sounds about right. That was the minimum wage in 1950, accounting for inflation. If it worked for the boomers, why wouldn't it work for us?
that's antisemitic
stop jerking off to niggers, you piece of shit
Face it. Mass-migration is cheaper and more efficient than a national birth program.
The foundations of capitalism is that neither land nor people can be used as capital.
Labor is social. A social contract. A contract is a social construct.
Land, in the spacial property sense, is a social construct which requires social contract to arbitrate. Only the individual matter on the land can be considered capital (ie a tree stump).
A "business" is a place of work. When you extend that "business" to a market, you engage in a social contract.
America is a mixed economy. It became socialist-leaning with that advent of the Federal Reserve. If you want more capitalism, repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
okay, I want to move back to USA. I am a slav and lived in usa for 10 years on visa, then moved out when my visa ended. I would like to move back permanently. what I found out is that when you follow the law, you get fucked, when you do shit illegally like shitskins do, then you get praised for it.
capitalism is just a tool, it can build great things or destroy them, depending on who is handling the tool
>Please, tell me how a shipyard based in South Florida that services megayachts can use overseas labor to service said megayachts?
>services
So it doesn't actually build the yachts, or its individual components? It just services them?
Social parasitism. Not capitalism.
>Everything is capitalisms' fault
It's all so tiresome.
>Cut welfare
>awaken an idle army of 40 million chimps
Hard pass
You can't say they here. Trump already thinks you're being paid to much
America was colonised conquered developed and industrialized by a northern European super majority that only dipped below 80% starting in the 60s. Go back to Mexico you disgustingly obvious beaner
>It's another cultural white Marxist
Kill yourself Germ.
Fuck off kike shill.
Says the crypto-jew
The US will lose it's White majority by 2045 at the current rate and they want to make it worse? The elites must really hate normal White people.