Jesus (peace be upon him)

>Jesus (peace be upon him) foretold the coming of the final Messenger
when? Because usually people claim the opposite is meant when he says that he is "the alpha and the omega"

Absolutely out of context. No one actually does that, it’s just theoretical.

TRULY BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.

Jesus is the truth, islam is a false satanic religion.

you found me, well done

He is God
>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
>The same was in the beginning with God.
>All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1-3
He is the Word of God, He is not another God, He is another person of the same God
as the ocean is still the ocean if you poured it into a cup, so is God still God when He is poured into a human body
all of the prophecies of the Bible lead to God coming to the world as a man to save mankind, either you believe the Bible is a lie and thus so is your quran, or you accept that it is the Divine Word of God and that Jesus Christ is Lord and thus your quran is a lie anyway

A'isha umm al-muminin sent him away while he was being nursed to her sister Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and said, "Suckle him ten times so that he can come in to see me." ~Hadith 30.7

Yes. Peace be with you too.
*carries you off to death camp*

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you're not welcome here, kike
at least muslims believe Christ was a holy man, you rats believe He is boiling in excrement in Hell

I saw earlier a thread about a French Muslim questioning the Trinity but got archived too quickly.

you're right, muslims are incorrect
the messiah was always God made flesh, Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecies, died on the cross having taken all of the world's sin on Himself, and rose again three days later
He is God, don't let anyone deceive you

Won't give up my space in heaven. Not to mention what lifeless relationships you guys have. It's all by law, law of which none of you could fulfill.

Faith in Christ guarantees my spot in heaven. It's not by my works.

Aside from that i wouldn't want to marry a Muslim woman. Yikes at the thought of unmasking her and finding out i got unlucky.

I can't speak for everyone, but My Lord is sitting at the Right Hand of God, and he's coming back soon!

Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!

Jesus is the son of God and our savior, go back to your goats muhammed

are you talking about Jesus Christ? are you not jewish, but a Christian in israel? because if that's the case I apologize

I dated a muslim girl once. She was a fair skinned Turkish bitch. I would hardly have called her a practicing muslim though. She loved cock, beer and weed.

>Jesus (peace be upon him) foretold the coming of the final Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Where?

>f you believe the lies that the son of Mary is God Himself, then you are beyond help and destined for Hell.

The Trinity and Modalism is pagan heresy.

> Satan is chained up and cannot tempt you like he constantly does in all other months.

Not Biblical. Satan is the ruler of the world, nothing in this world can stop him.

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Jesus Christ is God made flesh. Islam is Luciferian in origin. Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. Muslims are just as bad as Talmudic Jews. I'll throw bacon on your corpse.

Yes, Jesus is Lord.

okay why do muslims pray to a graven image (there is a stone that fell form heaven there) 5x a day then?
where does Jesus say there will be another prophet after him he explicitly says the opposite a multitude of times?
why is ok to have multiple wives polygamy is a sin against God?
Why is ok to lie and deceive people if they are questioning you about your religion lying is a sin as well?
If Jesus is not divine why is He coming back to fight the false "Isa" instead of that fag muhamet?
Why is the islam flag a star and moon which represents the babylonian dieties Sin and Ishtar Luna / Venus?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

>5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

>11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

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wow a christian israeli. Certainly rare

Imagine the state of the world if we became Islamic? Not only would philosophy go down the crapper but so would general life.

Entertainment and literature.

I'm not fan of secularism but I'd hate an Islamic world. And you're right. She wasn't a practicing Muslim at all. Most people are nominally part of a religion but don't practice it. That's why we have so many mmuslim women preaching tolerance for Islam and for shariaiah in the west.

They are nominal. They'd kill themselves if they had to live under real islamists

We don’t pray to the Kaaba; we pray to God in the direction of the Kaaba.

They exist

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I understand why modalism is wrong, but why is the Trinity? even without the added text in 1 John 5:7, it is evident from Scripture that God is the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit
it's not three Gods, it's one God that always exists all at the same time for different purposes
that's my understanding... like a brain, a heart, and a tongue

amen! Christ be with you, user

Kaaba used to be idles, right? Isn't that why Muhammad's general was shocked to see Muhammad repeat the same old pagan Ba'alcrap?

Actually, the Kaaba was build by Abraham and Ishmael. Pagan Arabs desecrated it with idols, but Muhammad (peace be upon him) ordered the idols to be destroyed. The Kaaba was the first house of worship dedicated to God, long before the Temple was built. You can’t blame Islam for what pagan Arabs did.

I did, there are a lot of problem and inconsistencies. Ironically, the biggest proof that Islam is not true is the Quran itself.

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you pray towards an idol God doesn't reside in the Cube no man has seen the Father answer my other questions

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

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Muhammad was a warmongering conqueror who lived by the sword. Jesus is the kindest, most caring man to ever live.

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Kek except god,Jesus,multiple saints,Dante alligheri and the archangel micheal.why is Satan such a basedboy cuck?

The Trinity is a Helenistic philosophical idea and pagan belief. Not a Biblical teaching. We know this because of the definitions used to describe it: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, and persons is all Greek metaphysical terms originating in Helenistic Philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. The word hypostatic union comes from hypostasis. It is a philosophical idea from Helenistic Greek Philosophy. The Trinity can only be supported with pagan doctrine. These terms and beliefs are not found in the Bible but in Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras. The Trinity can be traced back through old triad gods, Greek Philosophy, and Hindu avatarism.

The definitions of the Trinity itself: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, persons, hypostatic union are from Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras all taught these centuries before Jesus was born. Just trace "hypostatic union" on Wikipedia. It goes straight back to Plato, Aristotle and Neoplatonism.

Think about this: If I started using word like "Means of Labor," "bourgeoisie," "proletariat," "Base and superstructure" and called myself a Libertarian you'd all cry foul and accuse me of being a Marxist and Communist. Why? Because all my terminology used to describe "Libertarian" ideology is all Marxist in nature. You would all call me a fraud.

Why not with the Trinty? That's where the entire definition of the Trinity comes from. None of the terminologies, definitions, and understanding of the Trinity comes from the Bible. It all comes from Greek Philosophy, Stoicism, Hindus, and Pagans.

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Onions

I have read the Quran a lot, and it never contradicts itself. There is plenty of commentary on the Quran from scholars over the years that sheds light on hidden meanings and contexts that must be understood to interpret certain verses correctly.

Oh shit, the Jews know

Soi

>"All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods. For as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bound by threes, for the end, the middle, and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the trinity." - Aristotle, as quoted in Paganism in our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, p. 198, Putnam, NY. (Weigall is quoting from On the Heavens, Bk I, ch. i., by Aristotle who died 322 B.C.)

>"They appear to have regarded Pythagoras as a divine being [founders of religions tend to `develop' into a divinity or deity for that religion after a period of time] a status which he shared with certain numbers also, particularly one, three, and ten." "Neo-Pythagoreanism's importance consists chiefly in its influence on Neoplatonism ... and on Christian [?] Theology by Clement of Alexandria (150-220 A. D.)." The Greek Philosophers, Warner, p. 219, 1958.

>"Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a trinity. One recalls in particular the Neoplatonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality which was suggested by Plato." - Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Hastings, p. 458, vol. XII.

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>"The genius of Plato, informed by his own meditation or by the traditional knowledge of the priests of Egypt [or by the `mysteries' of Pythagoras], had ventured to explore the mysterious nature of the deity .... the three archical or original principles were represented in the Platonic system as three gods, united with each other by a mysterious and ineffable generation .... such appear to have been the secret doctrines which were cautiously whispered in the gardens of the Academy .... The arms of the Macedonians [Alexander the Great] diffused over Asia and Egypt the language and learning of Greece; and the theological system of Plato was taught, with less reserve, and perhaps with some improvements, in the celebrated school of Alexandria." - The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Edward Gibbon, pp. 675, 676, vol. 1, The Modern Library - Random House, Inc.

> "... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers."– p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D. (see WT 15 Oct. 1978, p. 32.)

The concept of three-in-one and one-in-three came from Pythagoras, Aristotle and Plato. It would go down as Alexandrian Thought, Neoplatonism, and Stoicism. Pythagoras traveled to Egypt and Indian where he learned all this nonsense and turned it into his own personal philosophy. This, the Church Fathers adopted and copy/pasted into Christianity.

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It’s just the direction toward which we face. God chose that direction because the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son, and is thus worthy of being the direction we face. When we pray, we are focused on God. The Kaaba is the first house of worship dedicated to Him, so it is a worthy structure to face. It is not idolatry.

>be newfag
>can't so󠠭y

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fuck off with your pagan Ishmaelite cult created by a faggot pedo

How do you know God didn't inspire them and had the philosophy perfected by the teachings of Jesus Christ your Lord?

>Kek except god,

Not yet, only in Armageddon

>Jesus,

Only in Armageddon

>multiple saints,

Non-existent

>Dante alligheri

???

>archangel micheal

(Jude 9) But when Micha·el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you.”

He refused to touch Satan out of respect for Jehovah God.

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But it does say a lot of things that are not true. Also just curious as to why an omnipotent and all encompassing God named Allah can also change his mind?

Why didn't allah realize this was the best place to face at first? First you faced Jerusalem. Did allah forget about Kaaba? Or did allah change his mind? If allah changes his mind, how can anyone EVER trust to get any rewards from him? Same as a US Senator who made big promises to get elected but doesn't follow through on anything.

You're going to hell.

To anyone in this thread if you died today where would you go?

Here's how you can know it will be Heaven: youtu.be/WDEBz25lGdY

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lol Ishmael was a bastard pretty sure there was a reason he did not receive the blessing

you pray to a cube Period can you answer my other questions? what does Abraham have anything to do with it like i said Ishmael didn't receive his blessing Isaac did

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Fuck you I was here when advice dog was a thing.

>.....what the hell do they mean the Whopper may trigger onions allergies...

jesus never fucked animals
your point is invalidated by that information

He doesn’t change His mind. Sometimes He sends verses for a specific time period (like the Sabbath). The Jews were required to observe the Sabbath, but humanity is no longer required. He knew He would do this. It’s not changing His mind, but rather commanding things that are effective for a certain time period or nation.

>(1 Corinthians 4:6) Now, brothers, these things I have transferred so as to apply to myself and A•pollos for YOUR good, that in our case YOU may learn the [rule]: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” in order that YOU may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.

>(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?

>(Titus 1:14) paying no attention to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn themselves away from the truth.

>(Revelation 22:18) “I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll;

>(Galatians 1:8) However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed.

>(1 John 4:3) but every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.

>(Deuteronomy 4:2) YOU must not add to the word that I am commanding YOU, neither must YOU take away from it, so as to keep the commandments of Jehovah YOUR God that I am commanding YOU.

>(Proverbs 30:6) Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar.

This is one reason

Why convert to Islam if the Quaran says I'll go to heaven anyway? Since the yes comes from Mohammads(I won't say peace be upon him because i don't believe in worshipping a man who had visions jn a cave) later writings clerics will go with the later translation?

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>(2 Timothy 4:3, 4) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.

>(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

>(Matthew 7:15) “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

>(Acts 20:29) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness,

>(2 Peter 2:1) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.

>(1 Timothy 4:1) However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons,

>(2 Corinthians 11:13-15) For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light.FOR SATAN HIMSELF KEEPS TRANSFORMING HIMSELF INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT 15IT IS THEREFORE NOTHING GREAT IF HIS MINISTERS ALSO KEEP TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES INTO MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS...

This is reason number 2

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God’s reasoning is beyond our comprehension. He knew we would ultimately face the Kaaba. He reveals verses to us over time. He knew we would face the Kaaba after years of facing Jerusalem. We know that what is written in the Quran is the Truth, and nothing can change that. The Jews changed the words of the Torah, but the Quran is untouched by man.

Umm but he does though? What he says in earlier books of the Quaran is contradicted often by later writings and Islamic clerics accept this as a concept. They say the later writings are what to go with.thats the definition or changing his mind

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We don’t worship Muhammad (peace be upon him). He was sent by God as a Messenger, a plain warner, a man. We worship God alone.

>(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?

>(Matthew 15:9) It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

>(Mark 7:8) Letting go the commandment of God, YOU hold fast the tradition of men.”

>(Colossians 2:8) Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;

>(1 Timothy 6:20) O Timothy, guard what is laid up in trust with you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge.”

>(1 Corinthians 3:19) For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God; for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.”

>(1 Corinthians 1:22, 23) For both the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks look for wisdom; 23but we preach Christ impaled, to the Jews a cause for stumbling but to the nations foolishness;

Reason number 3

Again, God abrogates certain things when humanity gets to a certain point. It’s not changing His mind if He knew he would reveal something later that is different. It’s new and different from our perspective, but to Him it is simply the next phase in our understanding of His Will.

The greatest proof Islam is wrong is, ironically, the Quran itself.

If we take the Bible and Quran and take out all the supernatural content you get a history book backed up by archeology and history itself. The Bible is consistent with secular history. In fact, what gives the Bible credibility is history itself. Faith is not the foundation of the Bible; history is the foundation of the Bible. The Quran is hugely historically and secularly inconsistent.

Let's look at a few:

1)Jesus of Nazareth. Not JESUS CHRIST. Remember, lets leave out the supernatural. History is pretty much in agreement that Jesus of Nazareth was a real historical figure. There is more proof of his existence then Alexander the Great and Plato. Secular history says that there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He challenged the Pharisees and Saducees. He was turned over to Pontius Pilate on false charges of sedition against Cesar. He was found innocent and still executed. End of secular history. ACCORDING TO THE QURAN. Jesus was never executed. LOL!! They executed the wrong guy. End of story. This is a HUGE historical blunder. History agrees that Jesus was executed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews.

2)According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (356 - 323 B.C.), and believed he himself was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Alexander died a pagan. Muhammed wasn't born until around 900 years later. How could Alexander belong to a religion that never existed yet? The Quran contradicts secular history here REALLY BADLY here.

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3)According to the Quran, IN THE BIBLE it was not Aaron that made the Golden Calf BUT A SAMARITAN that led the Israelites astray. The problem is that this incident took place at around 1400 BCE whereas the Samaria was founded in 870 BCE 530 years later. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses [about 1400 B.C.] when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri in about 870 B.C. (see 1 Kings 16:24)? Imagine someone telling you they found an ancient document saying that "The New Zealander helped Christopher Columbus." The problem is that NZ didn't exist until 400 years after Columbus. It is obviously a fraud.

4)Surah at-Taubah, 9:30, And the Jews say, "Ezra is the Son of God;" and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the Son of God." ...

It is true that Christians say Jesus is the son of God but never have Jews ever said that Ezra is the Son of God. Care to show me where in the Torah, Psalms, Prophets or any Jewish writing says Ezra is the Son of God? It cannot be found in the Jewish Scriptures nor in the commentaries like Talmud and Mishnah (as far as I know, but please prove me wrong by giving a reference!)

These are but a sample of inconsistencies in the Quran. A human historian would not have made such huge blunders. It is less likely a superior being like God himself would make such huge blunders. This book itself is so inconsistent that it proves Islam wrong from claiming inspiration from God. God would not allowed such huge messes to be let in that even a human would not have allowed.

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A bunch of vague scripture that lacks context?you don't seem to know what saints stand for or what there function is I guess.i really find you Protestants tiresome with your poor understanding of the Christian faith.the Bible alone is full of vague text that is easy to confuse given the almost 2000yr time difference

The core message of all major religions is the same. What could that mean? Perhaps there is really only one God. Who has attempted to reach out to his creation multiple times throughout history.

It is our human tribalism that divides us. How many Christians actually abide by the entire bible? How many Muslims actually abide by the entire Qu'ran? What about Buddhists? and Jews?

God created all major religions. Search deep in your hearts and you will know the truth.

okay so how do you explain the deity of Christ, the existence of the Holy Spirit, and God the Father?

So he set it up in the beginning for one man to marry one woman. Then later, he let Muslims have 4 wives. But then a little later he let Muhammad have 11 wives. How come every time allah changes his mind it specifically benefited Muhammad?

>not being here before there was a here
Newfag.

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I rub bacon on your mom's pussy
Now fuck off and rape little boys

John 4:22

Another is that Adam was 40 feet tall. That violates the square-cube law. Muslims go "but muh Dinosaurs." Suuuuure, but that's because Dinosaurs were physically designed to disperse that weight like a Teeter-Totter. That's why T-Rex dinosaurs have little hands and giant heads. That's why Sauropods have tiny heads and long necks and tails. They are on purposely disproportionate to distribute weight around so they don't collapse. The human body was obviously designed to be at max 7 feet all and down. Any more and they collapse under their own weight.

The human body at 40 feet is physically impossible which makes Muslims saying that the Quran is proven scientifically retarded.

discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?t=38866

To analyze earthquake activity in the region, geologists studied three cores from the beach of the Ein Gedi Spa adjacent to the Dead Sea. "Varves, which are annual layers of deposition in the sediments, reveal that at least two major earthquakes affected the core: a widespread earthquake in 31 B.C. and a seismic event that happened sometime between the years 26 and 36."

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

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Jesus spoke with the Word of God and created life.

God created the world, and all life, with the Word.

Jesus Christ is God, and thus His message is pure and true. So what could Mohammad possibly add to a perfect teaching?

heretic

>People don’t realize how many of us are on Jow Forums
bullshit.
"muh degeneracy" spewing goat fuckers. We see you and mock you faggots all the time

I want to see the next frame of pic related
Then we'll talk

It's changing his mind when he says "this is the best" only to later say "no". It's a cop out especially when it comes to something as simple as washing onself before prayer. Allah,(or the demon disguising himself as Allah), changes his mind three times. It's changing his mind

Jesus is not considered to be a Historical figure, this is a common yet untrue defense of Christianity also fuck these constant religion threads

Yeah don't know about that chief. Saying peace be upon him every time you say his name sounds very worshipful.

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I don’t claim to understand God’s incomprehensible Will, but I am not concerned that He gradually reveals the Truth over time. I believe that there was some reasoning why it was revealed over time like that. Perhaps it had to do with making Islam more acceptable to the people at the time. I don’t know, but I’m not concerned by it. God does what He will, and it’s not our job to understand it. It is our job to trust Him and obey Him.

Islam is fake:
1. No concept of free will
2. No observance of free will (apostates killed)
3. Forcible conversion by the sword is not seen as a problem (person may be lying to avoid material suffering)
4. The speech of the toungue is more valuable than the speech of the heart in islam
5. Emphasis on wordly, material, beast instincts (not "divine or spiritual") such as conquest by fighting, lustful sex, wealth, and earthly power.

redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html

>Jesus (peace be upon him) is NOT:
>>God
>>son of God
you've been mislead if you think this. sorry, muhammed.

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It's all academic though really. The latest translation of the Quaran says that Jews and Christians will go to heaven. I'm a Christian. Why should I convert to Islam when I 1). Have faith in my Lord and savior Jesus christ?, And 2). Will go to heaven anyway without converting? Rationally speaking

which is why you need Jesus Christ and to not believe in false religions like islam

Not at all. He did a great service to humanity, guided by God. We wish for him to have peace and blessings in Heaven. We worship God alone.

Catholicism is the merging of Hebrew moral law and the concept of a messiah with Greek philosophy, not a "copy pasting." Catholicism teaches that God can be discerned by reason, and signs, that he acts reasonably, although we can understand his actions with our limited perspective only so much, so there will be mystery we must accept, and that signs and wisdom both can lead us to faith in God. The Greeks understood something (the universe) could not come from nothing, that creation ultimately required an "unmoved mover," and that there was, embedded in creation, a moral law that people could discern with reason that would help them live happy, healthy lived and lead them to God, that they called logos. They understood the nature of a creator--one that must be a rule setter, a motivating spirit to action and an empathetic understanding of what is created--the trinity...Hebrew moral law laid out a path toward goodness from Abraham to Moses and on to Jesus necessary for one to move toward unity with the creator and offered a way that the creator could act in history--a messiah that was both God and man. The Greeks who failed to accept Christ as the embodiment of the Logos--ie, the messiah, became the Neoplatonists who ended up in a philosophical dead end--there was nowhere to go with Neoplatonism but what amounted to magic--meaningless mind games about words and their meaning, mysticism, etc. Neoplantonism was simply a piece of the true answer. The full answer is the Catholic Magisterium.

Allahuakbar. My wife just gave birth to another abed Allah. This website convinced me to have children and now we are having 4 more Muslim soldiers. Thanks for the inspiration wh*Toids!