We are all familiar with the leftist apologia for black incarceration rates. Muh systemic racism, muh racial profiling, muh poverty, etc. But I have never heard their argument for why the vast majority of prisoners are men across all racial groups. Generally speaking leftists will point to disparate outcomes as evidence of oppression since everyone is equal.
How do leftists pilpul their way out of saying male incarceration rates mean they are being oppressed by women?
>Women lack agency in the patriarchy. They should not be held responsible for their actions. Yes, that really is the "leftist" narrative on women in jail.
Dylan Bell
Where have you seen this narrative?
John Baker
Just find a leftist, make the comment, and see if they agree. The answer is that all will agree with this. Women, much like black males, have one oppression point.
Joshua Ward
Just like they ignore Jewish Control over Central Banking, News, Entertainment, Courts, Cops, Military, etc., they ignore any unequal outcome when one of their Four Hated Groups is suffering the inequality. Their Four Hated Groups are: Whites, Straights, Christians and Males.
Once you understand how a Leftist thinks, everything the do makes sense. Once you understand that Jews run all the money everyone has been using for the last 3,000 years, you know who to take your anger to.
Landon Miller
>Once you understand how a Leftist thinks, everything the do makes sense.
I understand them well. I just am interested in their argument here.
Ask one in person. They are likely to freeze up like their programming just glitched hard. When I ask leftists why they don't walk their talk on racial integration beyond the slave master style (cheap laborers and exotic dates,) they often forget how to talk, they say "I can't answer that question," they explode with rage. It's like a petulant child trying to drag you into a game of pretend. When you refuse to play their game with them, they don't handle it very well.
You will have to ask a Leftist in person to see what reaction you get. I've never quizzed them on the incarceration rates. (I bet a few of them will suddenly believe in genetics and say something like "Men are more violent than women by nature." If they go with that you can slam them hard with the black vs. white incarceration rates.)
Lucas Torres
Just think about how far we have come from Jow Forums's wetdream of an ethnostate in which women must wear ankle length, loose fitting dresses to go swimming.
Andrew Jones
dare i ask what that is about?
Michael White
>I bet a few of them will suddenly believe in genetics and say something like "Men are more violent than women by nature." If they go with that you can slam them hard with the black vs. white incarceration rates.
This is exactly my prediction as well.
Juan James
They appeal to biology. Like everything the left believes, their rejection of biological essentialism is tactical. They drop it when convenient
Fml, women dont commit as many crimes because at least half the population can outrun, overpower and outgun and rape them Men commit crimes because theres just a handful of meatbags that could stop them. This isnt fucking hard to work out.
Henry Morgan
Women do honestly commit less of the type of crime that gets you sent to prison, so that is a part of it. But also they do tend to get easier sentences and are charged less by D.A.s for violent outbursts in general which is something that will not even show up in most stats. Usually something like this Is used but more subtitlely stated. Instead of >Lack agency They say >was forced by society to
Matthew Cooper
Oh no it’s racicis to put black men in jail but definitely not to put those evil men in jail they really do commit more crime.
Chase Jackson
>Men are told by society that they should take risks, be aggressive, and be tough. This toxic masculinity results in high rates of incarceration.
Best I can do.
Luis Miller
>They say >>was forced by society to True. Lack agency is too confusing for many of their followers.
Noah Smith
but i am not against women, only against non whites in my country.
Logan Moore
i would give women 90% of all leading position in economy even if this extreme stupid but if i would get all non whites thrown out of the country in exchange i wouldnt care.
Levi Kelly
This is fucking amazing. I think someone struck gold on this one!!!
Elijah Thomas
>Fml, women dont commit as many crimes because at least half the population can outrun, overpower and outgun and rape them
There are no physical differences between men and women.
Owen Nelson
is hard to commit crimes when you barefoot in the kitchen. keep your wifes shoes in your car when you go to work and only give her a pair when she goes shopping or to the chinese beauty parlor where noone speaks english.
ur welcome.
Carson Butler
whats a ballsack, u know that hairything that bounces off ur chin.
Logan Taylor
The argument really is fuck [target characteristic] people. Sometimes they make an effort and pull up some convoluted bullshit making Hegel seem sane but they often don't even bother and ask for dissent to be shut down or imply that people thinking differently have a lower social status. The question of their motivation is another one entirely, and is often less relevant than you might think.
Carter Turner
Been thinking this same question. Kinda strawmanny, but honestly they'd probably argue this way.
>Racial crime stats: 1/3 blacks have seen prison vs 1/17 whites in the US. (At least that was my understanding)
Usual argument is to claim unequal justice, discrimination etc, system racism, evil cops...
>90% of those are men
Probably claim that males are more violent despite men and women "being basically the same" or cite that patriarchy causes men to be that way.
>why would "patriarchy, "if it exists to elevate men above women, fuck over men so much?
Probably smugly claim that is the tragedy of patriarchy and toxic masculinity and try to give the impression that their ideology offers a solution. And we should all become noodley journo types
>Hold up, when it was whites vs blacks and unequal, you were claiming oppression and discrimination as the main culprit. As soon as it is women vs men, oppression and discrimination by the advantaged side are off the table and we are doing it to ourselves.
Dunno how'd they respond to this, probably some kvetching
Hours later, they'll argue that any policy changes that cause an increase in the pathetically low female incarceration rates is also sexism
Juan Murphy
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