Generation gap thread (zoomers pls respond)

I guess you could also call this a nostalgia thread, but I'm particularly interested in younger/teen Aryans reading and comparing their own experiences to mine. I'm looking at 30 and there are a lot of things in modern youth culture I realize I don't understand. When I was in grade school, for instance, typewriters were common and computers were used primarily to send emails to people overseas because international calls were so expensive.

I watched the Berlin Wall fall (I was quite young, but I was there.) I watched the World Trade Centers fall. Many teens I talk to, even adults, don't remember 9/11 and don't understand why it was such a big deal. I grew up in a culture where people made fun of gays openly but lightheartedly (usually), and transvestites were something you saw in Monty Python flicks. But on the other side, there was very little pushback or social divide - conservatives and liberals were friends and practically nobody called anybody a Nazi (there was a lot more social resistance to the hammer and sickle, though, in the 80s and 90s it might have held a similar edgy-teenager appeal but there was very little open Soviet sympathies the way we have both open Soviet and Nazi sympathies today.)

I was raised by the second generation to enjoy a time of relative, for burgerland, peace and nearly-unprecedented prosperity (great-grandparents fought in WWII.) My parents didn't have quite the same goldmine that my grandparents did but my dad paid his entire college tuition working part-time labor. My parents did see the beginning of the unpaid-internship spectre, my aunt (mom's younger sister, only about ten years older than me) took the first unpaid internship the family had seen and it made my grandfather very frustrated - he believed she shouldn't accept it, but it turned into a very lucrative job for her.

[cot'd, I'll keep bumping with stories of my childhood in the 90s]

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I had the fortune of growing up in an almost-entirely Caucasian/European-white community, so I really was that mythical "don't see race" that so many liberals hate and so many conservatives pretend to be. Back when I was a kid, nobody under 20 really got vocal or mad about it, either, although I did notice throughout highschool many of my more liberal friends from the more stereotypically-California families were opinionated the other way. At the time, I just thought it was weird but it didn't bother me at all. Nobody really talked about politics much at all back then either, even in highschool, aside from the occasional libertarian or gay marriage advocate mentioning something politely as a by-the-way.

There was one, ONE, girl in my ~1800-student highschool who was the modern Tumblr stereotype of "offended by everything," and we laughed behind her back but politely and we all realized she was just trying to be a good person. She wasn't the SJW angry type though, she just honestly wanted everyone to be polite and didn't want anyone to be offended. We definitely walked on eggshells around her though - one of my friends dated her and it was super awkward for him the entire time. Her sister throughout highschool was totally normal, then she went to some California university and is now an angry tri-gendered dragonkin.

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>I grew up in a culture where people made fun of gays openly but lightheartedly (usually), and transvestites were something you saw in Monty Python flicks. But on the other side, there was very little pushback or social divide - conservatives and liberals were friends and practically nobody called anybody a Nazi (there was a lot more social resistance to the hammer and sickle, though, in the 80s and 90s it might have held a similar edgy-teenager appeal but there was very little open Soviet sympathies the way we have both open Soviet and Nazi sympathies today.) (great-grandparents fought in WWII)
18yo Pole, it was almost the same during my childhood, its starting to change now. But even now people dont realy take racism seriously, in high school we took some stupid pictures of us and our history teacher holding confederate flags, nobody gave a shit about it

Whats the backstory on the Confederate flag in Europe?

No idea what's going on, Jow Forums tells me to blame it on the Jews

We have one in our English classroom, and back then we had meeting with dude who was a specialist on XIX century firearms and he brought shittone of guns with him. We took the flag, we took the guns and made a photo. Also my history teacher littelary redpilled me on jewish rolę in bolshevik revolution

>Pole
>Confederate flags
That's a little odd, but ok.
Poland also has a reputation for being a real outlier in many ways. Your nation never really saw the generations of ridiculous prosperity that ours did in the 20th century.

The fact that a man could be a cashier with no college degree and retire with a McMansion and a boat sounds like a fantasy even two generations later. It's bizarre to realize, even to me now, that two generations ago it was not uncommon to buy a McMansion in your thirties and have your housewife raise the kids while the maid cleaned.

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is 95 a zoomer birth year?

>The fact that a man could be a cashier with no college degree and retire with a McMansion and a boat sounds like a fantasy even two generations later. It's bizarre to realize, even to me now, that two generations ago it was not uncommon to buy a McMansion in your thirties and have your housewife raise the kids while the maid cleaned
What the fuck, that sounds compelty unreal

>tfw boland HEEM'd the Bolsheviks in the 20s and no one remembers or cares

>my history teacher littelary redpilled me on jewish rolę in bolshevik revolution
Wow, man. The worship of Israel stateside is no meme. The only group I've seen anywhere here, outside open Neo-Nazis, that doesn't absolutely spread its buttocks for Israel is the Orthodox Church (less than 1% of American population.) I know even multi-generational American Muslims often don't like Israel either, but I don't associate with them so I wouldn't know.

Virtually all Protestant churches in burger have some level of weird worship for Israel, some of it based on weird Old Testament guided-interpretations and some just openly funded by (((someone))). I've even been to churches that say Israel and the Jews are loved by God more than Christians are. It's something that as a kid I just took for granted, but as an adult looking at this thing it's bizarre to see. That is one difference I see in today's world, is that with increasing social-media reporting being able to overshout the MSM we see a lot less people just blindly reciting that Israel is perfect and flawless. It was never a particularly openly-spoken thing, though, it was just taken as an unwritten rule that Israel was above criticism and must be defended. Growing up protestant, we sang songs written about the Old Testament Israel and the pastors told us how they also applied to the modern nation and even modern-day Christ-denying Jews.

Dont forget about American Kościuszko Squadron, brave pilots who returned their debt and helped us deafet bolshevik barbarians

>23yo
I don't really know. When I think of "zoomer" I think of the kids who are teenagers now, I don't know how far it extends.
Culturally, would you say you're more in line with pop culture today or with pop culture of the 90s/early-2000s?

>that sounds compelty unreal
It's crazy to think about. It's also crazy how fast it habbened, just bam for two generations we're gonna have crazy money and luxuries before throwing it all away.
It's also in part because in the 40s-60s, college education hadn't entered that weird worship it's given in modern society. You didn't need a BA in secretary-fucking to be a manager, but if you DID have any degrees you were almost automatically a high earner because nobody else did. Now we have a cargo cult of pursuing a piece of paper because of what it meant 50 years ago.
My grandpa, the one with the McMansion, boat, and family on a single income, is even crazier than that. He custom-built his McMansion before his company even took off, and he was still taking part-time classes when the family moved in. He was not a trust fund kid, although he did come from a comfortable family his dad was a factory worker.

We were still fighting the Cold War, still very much active, and we needed unbelievable conditions for the common man to show off. A lot of people fail to discuss how huge a factor this was in the postwar prosperity, the war and its fruits of American global dominance played a huge part but we're still a very rich nation. There's just little need to give any of those riches to the workers anymore.

Oh, on the Cold War topic, I never had active-shooter drills in my school (maybe once in highschool, I think we called it "intruder on campus" with no specific focus to shootings), but we had regular air-raid drills all throughout elementary and middle school.

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It's quite a stretch. Zoomers are usually 1997 til 2008. Of course you could be in the zoomer generation yet have more of a millennial mindset.

Im a zoomer but no an aryan

The life living in a shithole isn´t life at all

kek, "Aryan" doesn't mean anything more specific on Jow Forums than "white" or "POC" does on Facebook.

I'm very interested in opinions from people in South American nations, particularly those that have been subject to significant US imperialist interests like Colombia. How old are you and what was your opinion of the eternal burger, growing up and in adulthood? How did the drug and coal wars touch the common man?

I didn't know this existed. Very cool!
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18yo. live in inner london and travel a bit out for grammar schooling (else i would either have to be in private schooling or schools with 40 - 50 percent blacks). Its like there are designated black/white/mixed schools. For example the school i go to is very mixed (still over 50% white but with a lot of other races), nearby is a low achieving public school thats mostly white, and also nearby is a mostly black public school. Its so clear that race-mixing doesnt work as people naturally go to schools with their own race, and in schools like mine races mostly stick together in groups. This is even true for good schools. There is a grammar school that is also mostly black.

Despite living in london, i can tell about half of my class would vote brexit/right-wing, which leaves me optimistic for the future. However, they are often much quieter when it comes to politics than the lefties and keep their opinions to themselves, likely because of the underlying feeling that being right wing is socially unacceptable. All the white confident guys have one main group that all vote right wing, i think the popular white girls wouldnt give a fuck if they werent dating the white guys. I get along with some of the black group but they would all vote labour in a heartbeat and are your typical "we wuz kangz, muh reperations" except for a few of the boys. Me and my group of about 5 are the socially awkward ones and only two others of them are white, only one of them isnt redpilled and thats the black guy in our group.

>being of the year two thousand and twenty less one
>using shekelpedia
If there's one source to boycott entirely, it's Wikipedia. Anything that contradicts the corporate narrative is edited. It's dangerous to use any source as openly compromised and easily modified as Wikipedia, because it builds the habit. You can find far more accurate histories with just a few seconds' time looking at search engine results, most niche-specific wikis are far better as well.

Apart from that people are just on their phones more and there are a growing group of people like me and you lot that spend a lot of our time on weird corners of the internet that didnt exist 10 to 20 years ago. Usually people just discuss last nights football, but when politics comes up, people on the right make sure that the people they are speaking to is also right wing, like its something you dont really want the lefties to know, while discussions about feminisn bring out all the white english students out to virtue signal

>Its like there are designated black/white/mixed schools
That's the way it's been in burger cities since desegregation. My parents, growing up in Dallas, and the younger generation were all sent to private schools. There are other benefits as well, many private schools have guaranteed-acceptance at partnering universities so long as you keep a minimum GPA in addition to the obvious """networking""" bonus. But just like saying "Oh, it's dangerous to walk alone by the projects" is code for "It's dangerous to walk alone around nonwhites," private schools are often code for "I don't want my kids growing up with blacks."

Population replacement is one hell of a meme, at least here in burger we have enough land that it's easy to just remove yourself from melanin surplus. I imagine that it's harder to do so in a nation smaller than a lot of US states. I mean we have states that are practically ethnostates with twice the acreage of your entire nation (although it's likely that will entirely disappear within two generations, the C*lifornians are already moving in.)

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Forgot to add, pretty much everyone makes jokes about and laughs at racist/homophobic/sexist jokes if done tastefully. Two kids in my group used to use nigger frequenly around my black labour voting friend and he didnt really care and would laugh (this is rare though). still i do notice many left wing people barely care about progressivism, while all the teachers, left or right, are very protective of lgbt and all progressive. That whole thing has just been a fad imo and now people are kinda snapping out of it. Overaggressive social justice will soon be a thing of the past.

>Be me
>Gen Z
>Go to ineffective depression inducing school
>Girls over sexualised, do nothing but beg for sex
>Guys doing drugs in the bathroom all day
>Niggers screaming during class, acting like animals
>Be me
>Only person that understands what's really happening
>be the only person that knows about whites being a minority by 2045
>be the only person that understands race realism
>be only one whos sees women for what they really are
>be the only one who can call out and spot Marxist propaganda in school
>be the only one who sees the coming civil conflict
>be the only one that dislikes transsexuals for mutilating themselves
>be the only one that thinks killing babies is wrong
>mfw people tell me to stop being extreme
>mfw people ask why I get so angry
>mfw I just wait all day for the death squads to start recruiting
>mfw

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London is a shitshow when it comes to that really. Immigration hit us so hard you could be walking in a nice rich area one moment, and get on the bus and have half of the people on there be old black women. You get off it, walk 25 meters and you're outside an all-white/paki private school its kinda mad. The nearest school to my house is mostly black, and there was a stabbing outside our nearest supermarket not too long ago by some nigger, but my neighbours are lawyers and doctors.

When i get my chance im dipping out for the countryside or maine or anything to escape the monkey cage

kek this is either bait or you're that fat autistic kid who mumbles something about white genocide every time a black girl asks for a spare pen

It's funny you bring up slurs, I've noticed many of the younger (18-22) crowd of Latino immigrants is itching to throw the word "nigger" around but they do it like an American teenager - really quickly and trying very hard to sound casual, before shutting up and looking around to make sure no one was mad before changing the subject.
I suspect it's because of social media and translations of popular media into every language, where no matter what nation you're from you often start consuming the same edgy cartoons and late-night comedy as any American teen as soon as you come over. YouTube celebrities and the "Let's Play" or whatever stuff are big, and for some reason Latinos LOVE Spongebob. Latinos under 30 seem to really love all television media, but Spongebob is like a rallying cry for them.
Talking about Latino stuff in the US is weird for me in a generational thread, because like I said I grew up in a very middle-class huwhite community and I think I met 4 black people before graduating highschool. Some friend groups had a token Latino, though not all, and he/she was always 2nd or 3rd generation who didn't speak a lick of Spanish or have any other Latino friends. Even my Dallas family has similar experiences, again because of the private schools. Latinos are people you meet when the janitor comes in early. One thing I see in younger generations is that century-old totally-not-segregation social norms are breaking down between the combination of AA laws and immigrants' families being here long enough that they can finally afford to send their kids to places that used to intentionally price them out. The race issue is being pushed so hard today, though, that totally-assimilated burger-born Latino parents are now having children who are coming out and identifying as this shitty culture that they've never even known.

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do you remember what life was like before 9/11?

indeed. Pretty much all second generation immigrants see themselves as being part of whatever country their parents. Often when debating people i have to spend a while convincing them they are british and not jamaican or nigerian or whatever, because literally everything about them is british, from their accents to their day to day lives. I am half spanish half spanish, and i recognise this. But i have a turkish friend who is right wing and is constantly chatting about football and his club (chelsea) and fifa and alltogether british stuff, but refuses to wear a poppy because "british and turkish were on opposite sides of the war".

This is the real shit thats rotting britain. It completely drains the country of any unity. The muslims are the worst at this and this is why they are the biggest problem. They come into an area, completely transform a street, and within a couple years you could mistake it for pakistan. Theres a sky interview in oldham were some paki had been living there for 20 years or so and didnt know a word of english, as they didnt have to learn. If you want to know why radicalisation occurs, its because of this. Young pakis grow up with all their allegiance to islam and islamic states and not towards britain, as though they were living on a small islamic island surrounded by british enemies. And so we get things like the terror attacks in london.

half spanish half british*

>some paki had been living there for 20 years or so and didnt know a word of english, as they didnt have to learn
This gets me pretty bad too. Nobody asks WHY diversity is strength, or WHY it's beneficial when half your nation can't understand the other half when it speaks.

Nobody looks at our own dang country's history, and sees that the times of greatest struggle and hardship and violence occurred when """diversity""" was greatest.

Oh, ok.
Im 18, and I was born in a small city surrounded by great and plentifully fertile lands in a middle up class family, I don't regret anything about my childhood.
Here practically almost all behave as niggers. the future for this nation isn't very bright, we had our own version of immigrant crisis with the "venecos" and this government the only thing that has done is give passports ,help and even citizenship. Also the fear of socialism getting here is where all my vision get crumbled.
About the drugs thanks to my family I hasn't been in much touch with that world, but here is very easy spot someone who sells or use drugs and all the violence generated by this is visible in our no go zones, also a generally like dream to be like pablo, pablo is the very definition of the Colombian dream

And the "peace treaty" with the guerrillas are a scam nothing has changed for the peasant

Even here in britain there are people that like to blame everything happening in south america on the USA. Do they have a point?

I'm trying to think of more things that were different when I was growing up. We really did have the exact same global warming messages. It's not a meme, they gave us the same timelines (always 5 or 10 years from total social collapse) but for the same range of constantly-varying reasons (CO, CO2, plastics, whatever was trendy) and America was always the one that had to step up and change even though China was the one doing it.

Holocaust denial was miles, miles outside the Overton Window. People did it, for sure, but they were regarded lower than Flat Earthers. And that goes even for revisionists - every lampshade story and arbitrary death-toll increase was true.

Operation Iraqi Freedom was treated like a Roman circus. It wasn't, culturally, a serious war. We laughed at television mockeries of Afghanistan and Iraq, anyone who disagreed with the war was shamed the way a Neo-Nazi would be, and soldiers were hailed as heroes - you'd think a 19yo wearing his fatigues in a Walmart had saved a hundred orphans from a burning fire, not just gone through basic training so he could afford a new F-150. It was super short-lived, of course, only a few years of rabid patriotism but we bought it beyond belief.

This modern social distrust of Russia is bizarrely new to my generation. So many people in my generation grew up in a post-Cold War society where Russia was no longer openly acknowledged as a threat (even as we waged a hundred proxy wars against them.) We grew up thinking of Russia much like Germany, a nation we were at war with a while back but we had no more hostilities with. This meme of Russian hacking the election and Russia controlling blah blah blah, comes out of nowhere after decades of silence. China, too, only the far-left liberals even mentioned sending our manufacturing overseas - this used to be a pretty left/liberal position, the idea that we should bring back production.

Again, this is all my experience and I did not grow up in a city/diverse area.

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There are things than can correctly be fault of USA but, in a deep analysis our culture and decisions are the key for understand our actual situation

A simple fact than we had from 1819 to 1904 ten civil wars

I didn't know you guys had an immigrant problem, how interesting. I knew Mexico had an immigrant problem because they don't want South and southern Central Americans any more than the MAGA crowd does.

Not him, but they have a point. The USA is not entirely to blame, but we've done violent regime changes and drug wars any time the existing regime got too friendly with the Soviets. Venezuela and Columbia were huge targets because of oil and coal production, for the same reason that Middle Eastern nations have been such warzones. You can't just discover oil/coal and expect your government to remain stable unless you have a fairly powerful military defending you.

I'm happy to hear that there are some areas that have been isolated from this hellscape, though. Here in burger we don't get any local news from these places. We have American and British news, Russian if we want to (it's even more openly compromised than American news, but at least it reports the other side), and anything else is so foreign that it's impossible to judge truth from fabrication. I remember one news source, I believe from Afghanistan but it might have been Iraq, a state-funded publication that was reporting live on the American invasion. Even as you saw the tanks and missiles in the video's background the reporter would deny their existence.

>I'm trying to think of more things that were different when I was growing up. We really did have the exact same global warming messages. It's not a meme, they gave us the same timelines (always 5 or 10 years from total social collapse) but for the same range of constantly-varying reasons (CO, CO2, plastics, whatever was trendy) and America was always the one that had to step up and change even though China was the one doing it.
YIKES. With so many scientists backing it up, not believing in global warming is like believing in a flat earth. Because of this ive always believed it. But with my trust in the media at an all time low, and with several of my friends now disregarding the concept, im starting to have my doubts. Especially after what you have just said. They have pushed climate change so hard in british education. Year after year in almost every topic, biology, physics, chemistry, geography, religious studies ect ect to the point where people are just really bored of the topic.

Comparing the way people act today with how people have typically acted the last two thousand years is quite interesting, and i often wonder whether a hundred years from now humanity will reset to what were like before and look back at today like we were lunatics.

not believing in global warming, for me, has always been like believing in a flat earth*

>global warming
Has anyone told you that the magnetic North Pole has been moving at an unprecedented rate in recorded history? It's moving something like 5 or 10 times as fast as we're used to.
Global warming is a complicated thing to discuss. One the one hand, we're talking about changes in less than one degree. Statistically, even the significance of these changes is open to debate because we're talking about measuring global or regional average temperature hundreds of years ago, and being able to pinpoint the air temperature hundreds of years ago - or even fifty years ago - within half a degree of today's most accurate tools.

That said, I don't see any reason to believe it's not happening. It's happened on and off even in recorded history. Scandinavia and northern Europe even in recorded history were once warmer. The ice caps' recession is measurable. Ironically, if it were possible for any nation to do this intentionally, Russia would probably be the one doing it since they benefit tremendously from global warming.

I've taken several environmental engineering classes at uni, I'm not an EnvE but CEE takes a few classes so we at least know enough basics that we don't end up dumping sewage into a reservoir. Climate change and pollution are super complex and even though there are buttfuck-stupid ideas (don't run your car in an airtight garage), there are lots of things that are way more unclear. Climate and environment change are measurable, but there are a million variables in the environment and anyone who denies that it happens naturally as well as artificially is a fool.

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True. Sometimes it irritates me when people make such a big fuss over global warming like we are going to die within the next year, but when asked about it i realise there is no good reason why i should care, people caring after the environment is really just a good thing. Only problem is when people get like those fags that shut down london and stormed parliament like it would do anything other than increase traffic

>no good reason why i should care
Future of your children, but it's not accomplished by recycling (although it's not bad.) China's a way bigger threat and their government openly doesn't give a shit, fixing our own nation without pressuring Eastern nations (Russia and India are pretty bad too) is being retarded.

Did you know that 10 container ships - that's ten ships, not ten shipping companies - produce more emissions than every car on the planet combined? Almost everything they're shipping could be produced domestically. Part of Chinese trade is economically enforced peace, since active trades keep many relations civil. A lot of it is merchant tricks, though. Deforestation is also completely avoidable, as sustainable forestry is easily practiced and can actually help keep the region safe by encouraging fire prevention forestry techniques.

I wonder why we don't have some sort of UN program to deal with the alleged trash islands in the Pacific. You'd think that would be a super easy thing to unite our shitholes around, especially because it would be so low-cost relatively speaking.

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i meant no good reason why i should care that they care about being eco friendly.

Although those are some interesting facts, britain should really go back to sustaining itself as much as possible.

18oy Ukrainian. Finishing my freshman year at uni. My experiences are similar to yours, although I differ from my cosmopolitan classmates, as being the most conservative of them. But I try avoiding speaking about politics. As to the surroundings, last 5 years were really hard for everyone here, with following effects. And yeah, I basically live in a white ethnostate

3rd wave feminism: 90% of males at my school laugh at it. ~50% of females do the same.

Immigration: Like 50% of males want it to stop and females I don´t know about.

Global warming: Pretty much everyone realizes that my country cutting emissions won´t affect the global climate. Having cleaner air and streets is something we strive for as a society though as air quality can be bad during winters in the cities.

Why are there so many Norwegians on Jow Forums?

>britain should really go back to sustaining itself as much as possible
That sure would be neat, I'd hate to lose the only other English-speaking nation that isn't a hat.

>Ukraine
Nicem8, that sounds interesting. Lots of tensions with Russia lately, though, yeah?

I didn't even know there were different waves of feminism until probably age 20. That was when I kind of started to realize feminism wasn't about equal rights.

Now that I think about it, I also grew up without television. So the news I did have, which wasn't very much, was mostly from the paper (almost everyone had a newspaper subscription when I was a kid) and so I missed a lot of the radical/pop-culture news that I'm sure many of my peers were exposed to. It's always very obvious when I'm talking to someone about events who gets their news from a television, NPR (National Public Radio, basically taxpayer-funded far-leftist propaganda) is getting just as bad too. In fairness, right-wing radio is no better.

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>Lots of tensions with Russia lately, though, yeah?
No shit, m8