Seriously, how STUPID does Trump think Americans are, to lie to our faces so brazenly?

Hi Pajeet

fun fact
he also gets owned in the ass three nights a week from his wife 'betty'.

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So I guess that means China pays for the Tariffs they impose on us then?

you chinks are literally too fucking retarded to be parading around your little puppet liu with a "uniform" on thinking you are foolin anybody lol
Not even "boomers".
Better get yo shit together, shills.

That’s how the government generated revenue before it got all kiked

Chinese imports get pricier but still remain 1,000 times cheaper than any other alternative so the American consumer just pays more for the same crap. Hooray!

Seriously, how STUPID is Ted Lieu that he doesn't understand how and why tariffs work?

You dumb fuck, US companies will just buy from non tariff'd companies. The tariffs will only cost US companies money if they choose to pay them

>making 5 occupy democrats meme threads
kill yourself spammer

Pablo gets it. This isn't about getting cheaper consumer shit, it's about ending the export of US industry to other countries.

Not a single economist of repute is backing your self-destructive, anti-middle class campaign of North Koreanesque economic isolationism. Trumptards are the idiots here. Unfortunately, they're so hyped up on Fox News and Breitbart they are completely disassociated from actual reality.

Let's look at this objectively. I am an American. I got about the tax return I expected to. I have made more money in the last years than I did any year in the last decade, even accounting for inflation. Gas is cheap. I haven't seen any ridiculous price hikes. Steel is even calmed down for now. Is anyone's life worse under trump's trade war?

Stop noticing patterns

>passed onto american consumers
Its fucking eerie how its always this EXACT phrasing

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that's fine
taxes on chinese garbage >>>>> taxes on wages/profits/etc

I'm an Aussie, I don't have a dog in this fight.
Nonetheless, tariffs work by making imported goods more expensive, thereby driving down demand (and costing the foreign producer sales/income). Whether that's a good strategy overall is debatable, but Lieu's take is still either idiotic or intentionally misrepresenting tariffs.

Good, fuck consumers.

>"Surrender to China or no cheap shit for you!"

Ted Lieu is a foreign invader who has absolutely no understanding of basic liberties.

The point is not the tarriff the point is manufacturing in the united states can compete at this new inflated price level.

>It was her turn REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Seethe, faggots. Seethe.

So the chinks counter tariff is just punishing themselves?
Wow, Trump is apparently brilliant.

It's a straightforward threat

>do what we say or we're going into your wallet

(((not a single "economist")))
the same kiked out stupid fucking chinks and economists whose only real job is to push the fucking psuedo science called "economics"? one whose primary job is to justify the absolutely manpulated and controlled effects of (((modern economics))) such as 'inflation' and rationalize it for the sheep to swallow as being "natural"?

YO YOU FUCKING SHILL NIGGERS WE FUCKING KNOW.
Bitchass retards actually spamming this fucking pussy for balls gay ass shit.

>words words words
Condense it for me, and then we can talk

It's not tho. If supply stays the same and price goes up less units sell and China loses money. Supply can also increase as non Chinese or American companies now have an extra margin to undercut profit and grow increasing supply and lowering price from the tarriffed price. Yes it forces consumers to pay more but it doesn't guarentee China doesn't get hurt, and gives room for more companies including American companies to compete. This gives room for better quality and increases jobs too if you want to consider externalities.

>Amricans pay Fariffs.
Fucking spy, we want them to. Then they have to move their companies and production out of a slave communist enemie's country.
>we all know about economics because Rachel Maddow

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There's not a choice. You're having federal taxes and now new punitive tariffs that the average American has to bear.

They don't drive down demand for imported goods if the imported goods are still cheaper than domestic product after the tariff. Which they are. You could not get people to buy a television made in America without a full trade embargo. Why? After paying every worker in the factory $40,000 a year and with production capped by an already strained pool of labor - it would end up costing $10,000. There's no people unemployed or willing to work to make the shit Trump wants made in the United States. It's just not possible. We've already switched to producing better, higher-value goods and services.

Betty? But isn't that a woman's name?

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>So the chinks counter tariff is just punishing themselves?
>Wow, Trump is apparently brilliant.
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Sometimes the best answers come from the places you least expect.

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>They don't drive down demand for imported goods if the imported goods are still cheaper than domestic product after the tariff. Which they are.
Big claim and obviously not all imported goods are from China. Smart business will move out and go around the tariffs for goods they can't make here.

ChiCom are trying to push soft-power in Yanksville on here?
Go eat your brothers, locust.

yes

(((they))) want the people to remember the continued effects of their anti-white (((shilling))), both by likes of clowns, mossad, chinks, poo in loos, turks, (((msm))).
they want people to only remember the foreclosures of the farms in the midwest, which the congress is BLOCKING the POTUS from intervening against, the same way they got billions for puerto rico but nothing for the midwest.
All the while chinks and jews are dialing up the anti-american anti'-white angle to the extreme.
(((they))) block POTUS, cause false flags, and if all else fails, they want you only thinking with your emotions rather than facts by using most sensitive topics of chans like the kikes:
"HURRR ZIODON"
"HUURRR DURRR ISRAEL COCK SUCKER"
iranian regime being especially cheeky right now. "psyop".
Prices to pay went up by a huge margin, your kids are too stupid to withstand us.

>manufacturing in the united states can compete
No, made in America is trash that's expensive
Companies will just relocate to India and Vietnam and keep their stuff cheap

Again, not if it's still cheaper to make them in China with the tariff. Which it is. No other nation can compare to what China offers in industrial infrastructure and capacity for non-complex items built up over half a century. Other countries in the region are decades behind. Everything will still be made in China. Americans will just pay more for it.

Amazing, I wonder if mr lieu would apply this logic to “tax muh corporations”

can you put that in simpler terms?

>implying we can't get our plastic bull shit manufactured elsewhere for just as cheap
ted lieu is mentally retarded

you know who doesnt pay tariffs?
the companies that build and make shit in the USA
bring your chink manufacturing back into the USA

who knew that all a communist country needed to do to defeat the usa was sell it cheap shit

Yes

This rhetoric is also notably absent from any discussion about climate change.

>what's supply and demand?

The Goal is to rebuilt USA manufacturing which
the Bush-clintons-Obamas destroyed.
Trump cannot lose. the fact the stock market is failing shows the disconnect between wall street and main street

TLDR (((shill))) angles are obvious. Always exploit and emphasize the negative which they help to make happen, while actively opposing, blocking, and trying to downplay the positive things done by DJT and Patriots.
It's literally just war 101.
PS: bonus points when they and convince normies and oblivious NPCs that they don't deserve to live aka HURR DURR WHITE GUILT.
Picture should come together here.

I know you're a troll, but how stupid are you actually if you would give up long term gains for short term losses? If a bunch of farmers in Iowa get that, I would think you could too.

>rebuilt USA manufacturing
Never going to happen

>cheap, disposable consumer shitproducts is the ultimate good for which a nation strives

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good. fuck all economists. even the right wing ones.

Were you born clairvoyant or was it a learned skill?

You fucking people are such ridiculous fucking idiots. IF chinese goods become more expensive importers will look for better deals elsewhere. Pay 20 cents more for coat hangers and fuck china stupid fuck.

China’s advantage is that isn’t politicians don’t constantly undermine their negotiating position

Technically wrong. Both sides will bear some of it, it depends on the price elasticity. The idea that China is not forced to lower their asking price is laughable. Overall USA will spend less on Chinese goods.

also, Lieu is a chink, fuck Lieu.

Are you retarded? Widgets cost $50 to produce with American workers. Same widgets cost $40 to produce by Chinese workers. Economic insentive causes company to produce said wedget in China. Tax them 25% then it’s the same. Factoring in shipping it be cheaper to produce wedgets in US after the tariff. Economic incentive pushes companies to open factories in US. MAGA.

>No other nation can compare to what China offers in forced labor and reduced standards.
>Everything will still be made in China as long as it remains the cheapest alternative at acceptable quality, which is getting harder and harder to do with other emerging markets.
>Americans will just pay more for it until they get fed up with quality issues and become willing to pay more for a better product.

Fixed.

Spy

Or they could renegotiate pricing... or they could shop around... Ultimately the consumer demand will dictate the price of goods from China.

Why did China put tariffs on US goods if it harms the Chinese people?

>Encourage importers to look elsewhere for goods
>Chinese exports suffer
This is easy shit, senpai, c'mon

What a disgusting fucking idiot you are. Shut the fuck up and stop spreading your disgusting drone disease.

>Not a single economist of repute is backing your self-destructive,
False appeal to authority you fucking idiot. Economics as a science doesn't fucking exist, it's almost entirely made up bullshit.

Send money to China displaces manufacturing in America. Money sent to China is used to build the Chinese military. Fuck China.

If you want a competitive manufacturing sector, all you need is a strong investment in R&D, industrial policy, labour flexibility and high skilled immigration.
Protectionist is like socialism, always fails.

And in the case of a product like the iPhone, it's already reached just about the peak price that the market will bear, so Apple are going to have to take the hit on it.

>We've already switched to producing better, higher-value goods and services.
You are a fucking moron. Financial fuckery is not a higher-valued good and service, it's fucking gambling, currency manipulation, and extortion.

Lol. Yes this is accurate. Faggots peddling cheap Chinese garbage (a.k.a. Walmart) are indeed getting fucked in their Jewish asses.

it's not that he thinks we're stupid- he just doesn't care about anyone but himself and wants to win a dick-swinging contest with the chinamen

He's Taiwanese

>They don't drive down demand for imported goods if the imported goods are still cheaper than domestic product after the tariff. Which they are.
Implementation detail, not a problem with tariffs per se
> full trade embargoes would make locally built TVs too expensive
Sort of. Initially more so. As production ramped up you'd see the cost per unit go down. You'd see inflation occur to balance the prices. It'd work out in the end, though it might take 5-10 years to settle down.
No one likes playing long games though
> There's no people unemployed or willing to work to make the shit Trump wants made in the United States
The employment figures are always a bit fixed. There's a lot of caveats and footnotes to the official employment figures. Plus there's the whole illegal immigrant labour pool which if necessary and facing a genuine labour shortage you could grant amnesty to.
> We've already switched to producing better, higher-value goods and services
Eh. More that you've switched to a service economy, and high end luxury goods are all that remain.

> He's Taiwanese
One China.
Both the ROC and the PRC believe it's all one big chinese family. They just differ as to the legitimate government.

Fucking, spit my coffee on my laptop because of you.
Topkek

America could go FULL ISOLATIONIST AND WIN
THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD
S T A R V E
we don't need them. we don't need any of them. Full Autarky

They're afraid of it. The jews, globalists, bankers, the chinese, the europoor, they're all afraid of it. That's why they lie so hard to you.
Don't let them subvert our country. Traitors that want to infiltrate the USA and turn it inside out.

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Basically this. The globohomo free trade neoclassical economic agenda is basically just a huge fucking psyop designed to give lazy, welfare queen bankers more power over your life.

I. Don't. Fucking. Care. I'll pay more and they can make it in Iowa. I don't care if some welfare nigger can't get 10 cent tube socks anymore. I never will. Fuck this chink and fuck you.

The problem is nobody knows how the dynamics will play out. We are at the point both sides choose to risk it and see the effects before the next step. USA does not seem to be at a great risk. China is facing a lot of challenges but Xi decides to tough it out.

They are worse. Chinese coming from the communist part are usually right leaning. The crazy Asian lefties are mostly from Taiwan, HongKong.

>implying the importers are not Chinese

Lousy attempt at a larp, faggot. What he warns about makes no economic sense and is not consistent with basic human nature.

Assholes who have a problem with that can resort to their age old remedy for being denied entitlement to things they think they deserve simply by virtue of wanting them - credit cards.

Yah. Farmers that exported goods to china. China is now looking for other markets, like brazil. Unless american are going to eat **ONIONS** beans for breakfast lunch and dinner, then they are taking huge hit.

STOP ATTACKING DADDY TRUMP THIS IS FAKE NEWS STOP IT DAY OF THE ROPE AREN'T YOU AFRAID

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Fucking *S*O*Y*beans

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Yep, then America produces the same goods and keeps the money at home instead of sending it overseas. It takes a little lag, but it supercharges the economy. Literally EVERYTHING China produces can (and sadly WAS) produced here in America at one time. But if you want the American worker to compete with cheap chinese slave labor and a CCP that routinely violates patent laws and fundamentally undermines American business' ability to innovate, by all means, keep attacking Trump's tariffs you blithering idiot.

dis

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But it's not real you mong.

This.

no, we'll just turn it into bio fuel.

China has too many mouths to feed, and not enough farmable lands (look at the map). If USA reduces food supply in the world market, China will be hit hard.