Is having a wife and kids really the thing to strive for?

getting as much money as you can, fuck some hoes, having actually fun things in life
sure
it fucking beats having family for sure

>Will this ever come back user?
youtu.be/vmGPUIewtfw

>nagging wife
So don't marry a cunt
>monitors every penny
My wife has literally no idea how much money we have. That's my job, not her job, and she knows it.
>kids that need attention
Her job, and she knows it. But when you're home, you'll want to give your kids attention, unless your a nigger.
>not enjoying life
then stick to your fantasy vidya world you casual faggot

because they were stupid
they were literally poor and still decided to have kids
i dont understand people like that
now there is more money and we are middle class but still
why be middle class when you can have fuckton of money abd be high class without stinking kids

How old are you?
No it's not better.
You probably cannot find a woman who want to reproduce with you, so you are trying to lie to yourself.

>t. zoomer or basedboy boomer
Why is it so difficult to grasp what people who haven’t even made it yet what a good wife and kids and some surrounding family really means? None of that superficial shit you mentioned fucking matters. You’re basically commiting suicide slowly over the course of however long you live, and even if you don’t kys, you’re literally going to feel empty and hollow until the real end.
Unless you can genuinely accomplish incredible things either in STEM or some other area which actually matters, your modest opulence doesn’t fulfill jack shit moron.

>is having a wife and kids really the thing to strive for?
yes
>working hard
omg no

t. stay at home dad

im 22 yo

Russian Orthodoxy is the way forward as far as finding a red pilled wife.

OP has a point, the leave it to beaver family is a meme. Regardless of what is socially normalized within society, women will always be nagging bitches.

why do you feel need to "fullfill"
you dont owe anything to anyone, especially not to your society
they dont care for you

oof, you KNOW you’re wifes sleeping around right?

shhh dont tell him

>stay at home dad

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Having a quality wife and kids is the main incentive for men to work hard everyday. But during the last decades that incentive slowly started slipping away, which is exactly why the West will collapse. Men are checking out of society, refusing to work dead-end, boring jobs, because they're not coming home to someone that just cooked for them.

with whom? she works 60+ hours a week with all woman. oh well, i live in a 50/50 state. im retired no matter what

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It's the most important thing you can do with your life. You pass on the skills, knowledge and morals that we're passed on to you. You get to grow old and still have your children and grandchildren in your life as all your friends die. As you grow old and your children grow up, they look like young versions of you and your wife. And you feel like you've made your ancestors proud by keeping alive what they fought so hard forAnd it should go without saying, but If you have a wife who does nothing but nag then you fucked up by marrying her.

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You might not have felt it yet being so young especially if you haven’t faced a lot of hardship; it’s programmed into human nature to desire something of meaning. Having children is one of the more available methods people have for meaning in life, because the simple fact is that most people do not have the potential to accomplish great things. If the number of things which ultimately has meaning becomes smaller and smaller, then there’s no reason all life shouldn’t just cease to exist.

Except if you marry outside your race.

Then good luck to see any ressemblance between you and your grandkids.

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kek now that you mentioned it , i dont know anyone who has a wife which isnt a nagging cunt.
im pretty sure all of them get to that point eventually.

>there are no men in this world
i feel bad for you lol

feminism killed marriage and family

Based OP.

All your sex drive does is make you want to put your penis inside a vagina without a condom.

As degenerate and jewy as it sounds all the social bullshit imposed on top of it is just a bunch of tradcuck/roastie propaganda.

Even in principle marriage cucked as fuck. We are literally designed to have sex with as many women as possible and even if you dont actually want to do this, the idea of promising a woman that you will never pursue another, and that you and your body especially your sexual organs actually belong to her, belong to a woman! in some way, real or metaphorical is disgusting and effeminate.

Why would a real man do this? We are all born under the law, we are all forced to obey stupid arbitrary and unjust laws designed to benefit others to our detriment. The Law tells us we are perverted to look at perfectly mature girls large chested, full-bodied wearing tight shirts and short skirts DELIBERATELY to attract men if they are as little as one to three years under an arbitrary age cut off and that men who cant resist their attraction deserve the hatred of the public and the severe punishment of law. We are told that a man who engages a prostitute deserves the same and to be put on a sex offenders list and blacklisted from employment forever etc etc.

So when already handicapped and shackles like this which is bad enough already why on earth would you actually put on even more shackles and deliberately chain yourself to a woman? Someone explain this tradcuck shit to me.

LOOK AT THIS FUCKING JEW

>i feel bad for you lol
ya,im keeping the couch from hitting the ceiling right now while my children play. its grueling

Kill yourself kike

but wheres the enjoyment from watching your kids and grandkids?
that sounds so stupid
once they grow up, they are their own people, you will just be a burden to them because they want your house

Kill yourself. Seriously

>If you don’t understand, they’ve already gotten you
This. Either OP is a shilling kike or a fucking newfag who needs to lurk moar because he doesn't know the answer to his question already. Or he's a baiting faggot. Either way, the thread is sage worthy.

Look at his flag. Most abhorrent posts, save leafs, are made by these niggers

no shit
thats why i will never have wife or kids

not all the fat on your body?

you could just make kids, i know a guy who has kids with 5 different women, drives a shitbox car and isnt that handsome.
hes doing a pretty good job.

i look attractive
and thats why i can get to fuck a lot of women in my life
not just one fat old angry woman all my life
have fun with your marriage dude

Having kids is the secret to immortality.

>We are literally designed to have sex with as many women as possible
Yes, it's biological
When some one piss you off you want to kill him, it's biological too.
But there are rules in our society, we cannot just follow our biological instincts.

what is alimony
thats the reason why he drives a shit car
condoms exist for a reason

your kids are not you, you wont feel pleasure through their bodies, you will not see through their eyes
you will be just dust

>i look attractive
That's the surest confirmation that you're a fat neckbeard

I did the “right thing” and got married and had kids. It is so demanding and exhausting that the only thing I have time for is a shit post or two on the web. My health has gone to shit. I’ve lost all my friends. My wife doesn’t love me, and my kid will most likely hate me once older. It didn’t work out for me, but maybe it will for you.

He's got a valid point. You're the one who's giving an npc answer.

You're breeding because you're scared nobody will take care of you when you're old. You're essentially creating a slave but hiding behind the "white race" argument.

Please explain why you're view is morally superior to his.

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that is just stupid
and i see a lot of married people like you
thats exactly why i wont ever marry

Based leaf !!

true
>implying he even works
hes a basement dweller.

You think your life would be better if you were lonely childless porn addict incel?
Lol

Societys rules arent designed for you though, theyre designed with roasties in mind.

So why would you force yourself to follow any more rules than you have to? Its hard enough putting up with all the feminist crap in day to day life just at work or in society generally, why would you want to add to that by letting a woman boss you around at home

And dont kid yourself that exactly what marriage is 99.9% of the time and by design

Have you ever wondered why domestic violence is such a taboo? The betacuck interpretation is that its to protect women stop bad men blah blah blah but the reality is that its to subjugate women

Sometimes a woman needs a good slap to stop her tormenting and nagging a man but thats considered bad, oppressive patriarchal etc

So wait women using their natural strengths is just no big deal, suck it up pussy etc but men using theirs is evil bad abusive etc. Gee I wonder Who could have come up with this notion...

>the reality is that its to subjugate MEN*

correction

question for leaf, where do you find one that isnt a cunt and how do you know that she wont turn into one?

Love my kids. The wife was a mistake

how about a literal chad who worked hard on his social skills and now lays any girl every saturday night?
or rich chad who studied instead playing vidya who now has a good job?

I'm the only one out of my group of friends that doesn't have kids. My life isn't perfect but I wouldn't trade it with them. I'm in my forties. When is the regret that all you trad cucks talk about going to kick in?

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she will indoctrinate them against you behind your back
they will hate you, you will see

You’ve not had the pleasure meeting my wife user

it is very stupid to marry and have kids in the actual times
only after the fall of the west can we do something
But these autistic cucks will never acknowledge it because of emotional weakness, fear of being alone

Sorry. Should have said.... I’m positive the kids and dogs would all go with me.

In fact the only reason we are not divorced is I wouldn’t let her be a single mother. It would just be a disaster.

Its gotta be done. Marry the right woman if you're that concerned retart

all women are wired to search for the best man option in their vicinity
thats why you see a lot of women fixing their hair around better man than their bf even if their bf is around

I don’t know what would be better. I just know i wish I had the traits to attract a better mate that would be a little more appreciative to what I offer and would provide more help with the hard chores (floors, bathrooms, etc)

>taking all the crap from coworkers and boss only to come home to nagging wife that monitors every penny you make
How fucking beta are you?

Over 40 and childless = kill yourself
For the good of our civilization, you are just a consumer polluter, there is no point for you to live any longer

Look at his flag, more beta than frogs

This is what tradcucks actually believe

That he exists only to serve other people

This is the definition of a slave mentality

human production should be outsourced to women-owned fertility corporations (essentially a daycare)

Kill yourself chink

You should also kill yourself

I sleep well at night knowing I'm not bringing another innocent child into this shit show.

How do you sleep knowing you've brought a child into this nightmare to be your personal caregiver when you're too old to wipe your ass.

I hope your kids turn gay and your wife cucks you because you deserve it.

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based worst Korea poster

If you doubt the path you are free to wander and be lost.

Women and families are what give a man a greater structure that goes beyond his mortal existence. With a family, you are now part of a greater legacy. There's no reason to fear your mortal end because you're putting the best of you forward to survive into the future.

There's a reason every successful billionaire has a family. There's a reason why every hopeless millennial has nothing. You can pretend to be Peter Pan all you want, it will not prevent reality

earn their respect by providing their needs, and their desires when appropriate. Don't bitch and moan and complain once you've 'settled' together. We used to have sex 2x a week, until I stopped helping with cleaning/cooking, and now we've had sex every day for two years (been together 8). Women thrive in their natural roles as mothers/wives. When your wife works a job because you need more money, she will secretly resent you, no matter how liberal she is.

as for how to find a non-cunt, sadly the only way is to find a girl young (we met as teens), before their brains have been vaporized by (((netflix)))

I mean to reply to you.

>I hope your kids turn gay and your wife cucks you because you deserve it.
Ah yes, the leaf fantasy

this

so a virgin basically, i knew that part
i wouldnt provide anything for a non virgin either way.

>to nagging wife that monitors every penny you make, kids that need attention, money, care, time....
>that is not enjoying life
>that is just adding more unnecessary problems to your life

This is all post-feminism

lol like it is a problem from gorrilionare to have kids
try having kids when you are lower or middle class idiot

>thinking having kids will make your mortal end better
>thinking your kid will have free will once he realizes he's just daddies personal assistant

Pick one

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>thinking he will somehow be immortal through his kids

Kill yourself already

>thinking men with kids never die a bitter lonely death

You sound like a happy guy. You should have more kids and spread the joy.

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>is having a wife and kids really the thing to strive for?
> muh white babies
> muh traditional values
Not really, but it's the losers way of creating some kind of legacy for about a generation or two.

Family is what gives life meaning. This fundamental lack of meaning is at the root of the cancer infecting our society.

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meaning of life is to enjoy it

You should also kill yourself leaf. Preferably in a manner than takes more leafs with you

>t. Turbo kike

>meaning of life is to enjoy it
The ultimate nigger attitude. Seriously, kill yourself

You're 100% buying into Jewish lies. Kids are actually not THAT expensive. I have three kids, and the most expensive aspect of raising them was going from two incomes to one after my first was born.

Do you have to be wiser with your money? Absolutely, which you should aspire to anyway. Is it impossible? Of course not. Kids largely don't want (or need) fancy, expensive things. They want your time, your love, your attention, not toys and other crap.

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if your wife is nagging and your kids are little shits that's you're fault as a man

You are a selfish cunt.