>15 turkish military frigates outside Rhodes.
>Several helicopter and f-16 invasions into greek air-space last night.
>Erdogan's spokeperson, Omar Tselik stated that cyprus and greece should remember 1974, while turkish ships violate cyprian and greek borders
Turkey is getting ready for once Iran goes into war. Greece, with its communist gov't is not at all prepared. There will be war.
Buckle up.
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EU is forced to intervene, or else the contract will seem broken for all member states.
Don't worry if the Turks are dumb enough to side with Iran in a USA vs Iran fight, they have essentially shot themselves in the foot. After all, that would be a betrayal of NATO to fight and take stuff from another member.
t*rks have huge backing from us, germany, france and other countries.
they know that nobody will let them lose.
In fact, they are the ones seeking an "incident" with all the FIR violations that they are doing and by ignoring the 12 nautical miles coastal borders.
if only we didn't have cucked gov't the last decades.
lol if war happens Im evading draft lol good luck
Don't worry, nobody expects you to win anyways.
What will the EU do?
What's the best way to help you kill roaches when war breaks out?
I agree,but if they side with Iran,I can't see the us supporting them,Germans in the other side are eternal allies with the roaches
Gtfo of Greece filthy traitor
If Greece goes to war against the Turk how do i volunteer to defend Orthodoxy?
I never said Im with you and therefore I cant really betray you tho.
Fucking Turks.
>molon labe
Made me look. Greek would have been my fourth foreign language in school, and unfortunately there wasn't time for that. So I had to look it up like some uneducated fool.
Sorry Albanian,but still,you have to go back
Im not albanian tho. Just not gonna fight in any war.
For all the troubles that Greece has gave to the World for the last 10 years or so after GFC, I believe the World far better off without Greece.
My only hope is that Greek could kill many Turks as possible.
Nooo. Dont kill Turks. Imagine how Bannerlord could get delayed. Also what Greece did good to the world since they became christian?
The greeks will liberate bannerlord from development hell
EU and China seem to side against US and Israel on the Iran issue, or at least they have so far...
Cowardly traitor.
Im eligible for Greek citizenship and I'd come and fight
Any European that wouldn't help another Muslim invasion is a traitor and should be liquidated
You aren't greek either. And id help hunt you down as a traitor
If you are a greek and won't fight,you are a traitor so gtfo
Held off the Ottomans for centuries
>An unusually large concentration of Turkish military forces is observed in the sea area between Rhodes and Kastelorizo. About 15 Turkish warships, including frigates and rockets flying in international waters south of Rhodes, are supposed to practice in international waters.
>In the black afternoon, many night flights of Turkish helicopters were recorded, which were disowned by the Turkish frigates sailing in the sea. Along with all of this, Erdogan's spokesman, Omer Chelik, launched war threats, calling Greeks to 'remember 1974' and Attila. The day before, three Turkish F-16 fighters fired at a height of about 27,000 feet above Chios and Oinousses.
>It is clear that the Turks are demonstrating power, with their naval force being in the region, while their drills violate the Cypriot EEZ. They, of course, find and do, because they have unkempt and timid governments in both metropolitan Greece and Greek Cypriots.
*against
I don't know,but bringing civilization to the rus was a mistake
>Cowardly
How is it cowardly to evade draft? You will literally have military police hunting you down.
>Traitor
I never said I was with you so its not treason lol.
We taught you how to read and write.
Wait, but the Greeks were the Ottomans for centuries. They really didn't hold off anything since they became the Turks, and Greek in name only.
Greece fell 2000 years ago. Such is why it was the British that had to uncover the ruins of Greece, because the current Greeks didn't care at all that the ruins were under their feet.
>And id help hunt you down as a traitor
Ah good, Im relieved to know I will make it lol.
Ok sure Im a traitor or whatever other buzzword you feel like using but I will gtfo whenever I please
>I never said I was with you so its not treason lol
You are not greek or even worse you are commy
for the last time GTFO
Oh look, it's this shill again.
Why are you in literally every single thread that so much as mentions the word "greek?"
Because you are all a bunch of Larpers.
Sorry but I dont not possess this kind of hivemind where I automatically subscribe to team A and all that comes with it to the death and beyond. If you are talking seriously know that I unironically put effort right now to slightly understand your mindset so that we can communicate effectivelly.
Im apolitical btw.
Greece can't win, just move out
You seem awfully emotionally invested in greeks. Why is that?
You are even repeatedly asserting that "greece fell 2000 years ago", even though at that time period there were no muslims, seljuks, sasanians.
What exactly happened in 19 AD that I am not aware of?
Nowadays Greeks are a fucking mixture with turks, you have nothing in common with ancient Greeks but territory, you mutts didn't teach anyone anything.
You can use your flag, you know, we are aware you are a turkish diaspora already.
You can use your flag, you know, we are aware you are a turkish diaspora already.
Would come to greece as mercenary if turks would invade
Its it really violating your airspace or special "space" you claim? If it is the normal rules of airspace, we ought to be concerned desu. Greece is on its knees as it is. Turkey's economy is in the shitter and Erdogan lost some important recent elections. He could see war as a good way to overcome those and take advantage of a weak neighbor.
Yes, they are clearly violating greek and cypriot airspace.
Yes, Erdogan wants to capitalize from the Iran altercations and open a front in greece/cyprus.
Yes, he sees this as a means of establishing power in a country that is in its dying throes.
Yes, it will result in war, most assuredly. The question is, how will the other powers align?
I can put up at least a squad of volunteer Orthodox fighters, all armed and ready to assist Greece if SHTF.
My father fought Albanians and I will fight the Turks.
Meanwhile my fellow Greeks (in name only) of Cyprus, both the fake patriots and the commies, act like servants of the enemy. You are now called a fascist if you chant about your hate towards the turks, about fighting to take the occupied land back, or about the murders of Tasos Isaak and Solomos Solomou. All the mainstream politicians constantly push for "rapprochement" with our "turkish-cypriot brothers", as if the Cyprus problem is a problem of bicommunal problem to be solved by the "reunification of our country", instead of a problem of an illegal invasion, 44-year occupation, and illegal settling. The socialists and commies even openly recognise the illegal political parties of the pseudostate operating on the occupied lands. Recently all parties, except the nationalists, have voted for the automatic registration of turks living on occupied lands for the coming EU elections, in an attempt to appease the turks and fish for votes. And things are worse in Greece.We are doomed. Even if some of our fellow Europeans care enough to help us over kissing turkish ass, It's not worth helping us unfortunately.
I'd volunteer just to avenge 1453
Once war breaks out, it wont be the politicians running the show, it will be the military.
Do not lose hope, war will be a boon, trust me.
The original Greeks were mixed out of existence. Most of the Greeks immigrated to Rome, and once most of the original Greeks had finished immigrating, and assimilating to Roman society, the Asiatics that immigrated to Greece started to immigrate to Rome as well.
It's an endless cycle which ultimately destroys civilizations.
The Fall of Greece accelerated with the Greek Empire around 2300 BC. When the conquered decided it was best to flood the most successful Greek cities and towns since they were now officially Greek in name only, that's how it ultimately fell.
Can I be a merc for Greece? I work 13 hours a day and don't have to take a nap the whole time.
Ah shit, here we go again.
Yawn.
In 2300 BCE there was no Hellenic empire, it was the pelasgians and minoans. City-states ran the show. The dorian, aechean, aeolian, ionian migration and mycenian empire happened way later.
You are positively pozzed.
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Scientists say that Greeks are genetically Greeks.
Don't engage with him in this way, he is being paid to derail and astroturf. It's pointless.
It is a fact Greece can't win. Greeks are weak, lazy, small and poor. There's not even enough money to pay the soldiers wages and buy new bullets for the entire war, plus your government are retarded commies who might as well give them Crete to try to appease the Turks.
No one will die for Greece and Greece can't win alone. It couldn't keep Cyprus, it can't defeat Turkey.
This is a fact.
Thank you for your contribution, south-american mongrelised halfbreed.
Then I will make him rich by destroying all his pathetic arguments.
You have no intelligence to understand that it was a slow process that goes mostly undetected. Once the civilians realize they've been flooded and all their neighbors are foreigners it's too late.
What I mean't was 2300 years ago, not BC, 2300 years ago is the correct time placement of the Greek Empire which is around 400-300 BC.
Greeks are among the best Olympic weight lifters, they are among the tallest Europeans (thus humans) and wealthier than Swedes or Germans.
do you want more you shitskin?
I'm not sure, frankly there are very few countries now in Europe with militaries to speak of. The issue these days in Europe is a total lack of spare parts, ammunition for training and even basic radio equipment (i.e. Germany). I'm not familiar with the situation in Greece but I know that is the case for Germany, France and Spain. Italy is a little bit better of a spot because they are so dysfunctional they haven't gotten around to gutting the military totally. Do you know what the status of the Greek military is on that front? Does it have working airplanes? Most of the Eurofighter fleet for instance in Germany/France/Spain is just non-operable.
I also have some knowledge of what situation the Turks are in. They fired 80% of their officer corps a few years ago, neo-liberaled their own arms makers to the edge of death, gutted their NCO corps and have had to rely on a limited amount of staff officers to do most of the work. I'd expect a limited operation of some sort brief nature due to these constraints assuming Erdogan is rational (but he isn't).
If Anglos are not willing to fight for what’s theirs, I’ll fight with the Greeks.
I expect compensation, in the form of a Greek qt3.14 and galaktoboureko.
They can boast about this when they can destroy enemy ships by lifting weights and pretending to not need a new bailout every decade
From the Island of Crete, but not Greece. I wonder why that is?
The Greece army is pretty good, you're on your own mate.
It's difficult to not lose hope in our fighting power when watching the non-reaction of us Greeks to the constant threats and injustice by turks. Tsipras, Mitsotakis, and their equivalents in Cyprus are voted into power by the majority, and it's that majority that I have no faith in. The only hope is the slow rise of the Greek nationalists, though I don't trust them fully.
Greece has the largest military in europe. We, however, lack the funds to run it for prolongued conflicts. Fuel is expensive.
A war with turkey would result in a stalemate, they would scorch some islands, we would scorch asia minor. Boots-on-the-ground would never go down.
We have an edge if the war is short-lived, due to our air-superiority, naval superiority and A/A superiority. They have the obvious edge if the altercation goes on for long.
This is wrong you shitskin. There was no mass migration from Greece to Rome.
Turkey has 18 frigates in total, Greece has 13.
You'll sure understand that Greece can easily hold them back until America carpet bombs Turkey if they violate NATO law.
Half-Russian half-German here, this Sunday will be baptised to Orthodoxy and ready to fight on Greek side against the bloodthirsty roaches.
>crete
>not greece
Oof
Crete is in Greece you dumb shitskin. It was also the home of the Minoans who were the cultural and genetical ancestors of todays Greeks.
>America carpet bombs Turkey
Imagine believing anyone would die for Greeks, especially Americans
Friendly query, Is there anyone in the entire Mediterranean area who is not a fucking subhuman tier retard?
No one has been getting voted into office by the majority for years now.
That's parliamentary democracy for ya. They hold les than 25% of the popular vote and have to form coalitions to even have a government.
How many planes does Greece operate? Speaking of which, the Turks are totally out of fighter pilots atm, so I don't doubt you could win it.
african immigrants
You are dreaming. The US will tolerate just about anything to keep the Dardanelles.
So, Constantinople will be taken back in our lifetime ?
Exciting
Both of you are too stupid to understand that the Minoans were not Greek.
Anybody got a news update?
Turkey becomes a problem for NATO because its basically useless for white Christian countries. The Americans only let them in because their nukes couldn't reach Russia from America back then in the cold war.
Americans die for Israel and fight useless wars in the Middle East. Many Americans don't even know where Iraq is, while everyone knows Greece.
turkey would surrender in 10 seconds
If you give me citizenship, I'll come join you guys.
you beat the persian superior numbers in the 5th century BC, you'll beat the turks too dont worry
About 440
Greek pilots have consistently ranked first on NATO joint competitions for 23 years now, save for 2009 iirc, where Lithuania got first place.
Then ask the SANDF for help, fully operational full spectrum war capable.
spread ass, g*eek
Yet, modern greeks carry minoan mitochondrian and nuclear DNA.
Fancy that.
>White Christian countries
So your hope is Poland? Wouldn't help either. Americans would sell weapons to both sides at best
Thats pretty respectable. I know the Turks have some good Israeli gear, and on paper have more planes but Erdogan gutting his own military really fucked them. They've had to recall pilots from Turkish airlines and ruin their lives to get up to even base level numbers. Islamists are poor soldiers anyway. Unless he is insane, I think this is an opportunistic grab kind of deal.
What I meant is that the majority supports one or the other main parties, and both are equally dangerous.
you want to tell that guy about his own history you dumb shitskin?
The Minoans weren't Greeks but the Greeks adopted their culture after their civilization fell due to a natural catastrophy.
Exactly, because that Hamitic DNA was from their immigration. There is a reason Minoans, Phoenicians, and Hittites share DNA.
They are also slightly related to modern day Turks.
>The first known interbreeding of drone and a roach
>A droach
206 fighter jets (f-16, mirage, phantom II)
Over 440 aircraft in total, including bell205, eurocopter, gulfstream, C-130, Alenia.
The EU treaties include a defence pact. If Turkey attacks Greece, all EU member states are obliged to defend Greece. Thus Turkey wouldn't do anything unless they're sure member states would ignore their treaty obligations.
So I was right, seems you are in fact the dumb shitskin.
fucking turkroaches
Americans don't want to sell F-35s to Turkey because the Turks want to buy Russian S-400.
Holy shit, have Turks always been this stupidly aggressive? According to them they are a military superpower who would crush the United States under its superior boot.
Is this a legitimate prelude to conflict, or are you guys just exaggerating as usual?
If it's legit, I'm eligable for Greek citizenship, and would come over for real