You can't refute this

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cunt punt a roastie to solve abortion.

What is i want to make children?

First off I'm 18, by "other kids" i mean other highschoolers since we're in year 12. I got into an argument with a leftist and was spitting off crime statistics and economic data like Ben fucking Shapiro. I then ended it with "and facts dont care about your feelings". No one really knew Ben Shapiro so they didn't know i got it all off him. They always laugh when i speak to show support for me (kind of like how whenever the bully talks in a movie, his friends laugh to show their on his side, like not laughing at him but laughing to support him). They also all call me "facts man" and whenever they see me in the hall they say "hey facts man!" since I'm all about facts, not feelings.

A liberal also got spit on one time by someone on the third floor. They spat down and it happened to hit a Liberal, they say it was accident but i think they did it since that liberal opposed me. I think they did it for the same reason they call me "facts man". It's outta respect

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the un only exists thanks to boomers who want to destroy white people and replace us with goddamn niggers. we need to destroy the un.

Cunts can get their tubes tied if they don’t want to worry about abortions.

Bet you got a purrty mouth.

pretty gay dude

Oy vey get a load of this misogynist!

Nahhhh cracka ur moms pussy feel too good

Why not sew your cunt shut?

>hysterectomy
>hysteria
coincidence? i think not. the roastie becomes the roastered. the thot becomes the thotted.

i have porn of that. torturegalaxy.

Sure I can. You can be against abortion and want a child in which case getting a vasectomy is entirely counterproductive. Thanks for this casual glimpse into the mind of a grade-A Ricky Retardo tho very insightful

its not my job to make sure she doesnt get pregnant.
its her job

Or women could stop slutting around, and everyone else could start practicing abstinence

Hysteria used to be treated with a fingering

>against murder?
>don't buy a gun

Based.

everyone is taking offense to this but the real answer is that dick in vagina = kids. its really that simple. why would I have a vasectomy when the purpose of me sticking my dick in a woman is to have a kid

if degenerates want middle ground thats what condoms and birth control are for. this is the equivalent to banning guns to fix gun violence. only americans can be this stupid to even take offense to something so low iq

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One of the jewiest films I have ever seen is about the pioneers of that treatment.

>Against murder? Permanently sterilize yourself.
No

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INFERTILITY ENABLER RETARDS GET THE FUCKING BULLET

>can't refute this
Easily done. Wait, get married, no worries afterwards. Don't want a bastard with a degenerate slut then marry a nice girl, fuck her daily and have a ton of kids.

The easiest way of shutting down the abortionist argument of "They're going to be suffering anyway" is to tell them to go to the nearest orphanage or foster home with a glock.

Have more babies

Refutation:
Half the population cannot have a vasectomy.
I may not want a child now but might later.
What somebody else does with their own body is not your business.

Given the opportunity, sure. But at least this can be proactive.

Were not againt having children retard

What's the point if I don't have sex?

Vasectomy? Have your Fallopian tubes clamped.

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>You can't refute this
Women can be sterilized just as well as men.

And that's fine for the women who are against it. But the men deserve an option for their idiocy too.

Based.

I'll give a fuck about what anti-Abortionists have to say when the children in care all have safe homes with loving 'Christian' foster families.

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For abortion?
Just cut your dick off.
After all, it's just a clump of cells

Is your argument that people should be murdered rather than have to go though foster care?

>dude doesnt understand that you still get to cum buckets with a vasectomy

It doesnt prevent you from shooting, just shooting blanks. A lady can get her tubes tied too, but it involves a lot more cutting in surgery and a lot longer recovery time, and most doctors wont do it for some bullshit reason

Women dont have penises

Or do they?

What a wasted get. You're an absolute fucking retard.

So why does killing a pregnant woman is double homicide, again?
And what does murder have to do with mutilating yourself?
sage

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Why don't they have a vasectomy?
This seems a good idea if you roasties don't want niggletts and want to enjoy your degenerate, coal burning and bitchy behaviour.

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Only the cute ones

Isn't that a vasectomy?

Vaginas are inverted penise.
Kinda like innie belly buttons.

>You can't refute this
it does not stop other abortions unrelated to myself though and it's also very stupid. It's like saying if you're against drunk drivers then don't drink.

>it does not stop other abortions unrelated to myself
Why would you care about them?

this literallly make zero sensee
if you're against abortion that doesn't mean you don't want to have kids. Quite the contrary. What kind of retard made this shit?

it would make sense if it was "pro abortion? have a vasectomy"

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>You can't refute this
Her body, her problem.

Against Abortion.
Wear a condom.
Checks out and I do.

Spicy.

It's murdering children. If you see a little white kid get shot in the street and you just step over him and keep walking then good for you, but I have a conscience. I want to prevent murdering of children. And yes the unborn are children:

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child
(Entry 1 of 3)
1a : an unborn or recently born person

It means that if you don't want an abortion, then takes steps to not do it for yourself.

>It's murdering children.
No, it's terminating negroes.
> If you see a little white kid
False equivalence.
> but I have a conscience
Well that's a lie. You're just pro-suffering, you sick fuck. Or are you going to lie again and say you've adopted every unwanted whelp in the world?

>It means that if you don't want an abortion, then takes steps to not do it for yourself.
dude, you can't be this stupid
if you're against abortion, you won't do it anyway, vasectomy or not. That's why this slogan is correct only in relation to people who are pro abortion, but you wouldn't want them to kill their kids, so you tell them to do vasectomy

Vasectomies are much safer, easier, cheaper, less invasive, and can be reversed.

That being said, I don't entirely disagree with you IF the man is a responsible adult. If the man is a whiny manbaby mens rights activist who whines about how women use babies as ammo and how he shouldn't be forced to pay child support just because she decided to keep the kid, then it's his own fault for not getting snipped

>if you're against abortion, you won't do it anyway
Great. There's no problem then.

Abortion is bullshit. Recreational sex is not a right. The right views it as murder while the left views it as a convenience for physical pleasure.

>No, it's terminating negroes.
Negroes are terminated out of convenience, they still end up having "almost" the exact number of kids: it doesn't change fertility rates in blacks. Whites are terminated out of family planning: that does change the fertility rates.

Crime isn't conclusively linked to abortion anyway. It's a highly debated topic. You're just scared of niggers and thus are blinded into thinking "abortion must be gud cause it kills dem niggers".

>False equivalence.
No, it's not. It's a child, by definition. There's only a false equivalence if you have some made up, inconsistent, cherry picked philosophy dictating which children get rights and which children ones don't.

>Well that's a lie. You're just pro-suffering, you sick fuck. Or are you going to lie again and say you've adopted every unwanted whelp in the world?
Logical fallacy. If I don't want parents to murder their child I don't suddenly have a moral obligation to adopt that child. Foster care rates per capita have decreased consistently for the last 20 years. The need is being met or else the rates would have increased, hence I don't need to adobt. There is a family who wants to adopt already for every child in foster care. Trouble cases may enter foster care at say 15 and be stuck in it for 3 years until 18, so they get counted as a statistic for being "never adopted", but there was a family available on the "waiting list" so to speak.

To be fair, to pick all the subtleties, you have to be pretty high IQ to listen to Ben Shapiro.
> Inb4 I'm Pickle Ben
> Also, deja vu.

Yes I'm against abortion.
No I want as many European children as possible.

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>Whites are terminated out of family planning: that does change the fertility rates.
Gross oversimplification.
> thus are blinded into thinking "abortion must be gud cause it kills dem niggers".
Is that so unreasonable? Besides, it also prevents the creation of single mothers. The greatest threat to society.
>It's a child, by definition
Not my point. Your theoretical pearl clutching describes an existing child, and compares it to a likely worthless parasite.
> If I don't want parents to murder their child I don't suddenly have a moral obligation to adopt that child
If you're preventing them from having a failsafe, then you're just a prick who wants to increase suffering for no reason. An abortion elsewhere in the world doesn't impact you in the least.
You're just a typical gun-grabbing leftist who can't stand the idea of other people having self determination.

>Nilist with no beliefs.

Yeah man, you got me. I'll just go back to believing in Christ.

Life is completely unchanged by your retard opinion.

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>Being against abortion is the same as removing your ability to have children
Yes goy, remove yourself from the genepool permanently so we can definitely destroy your demographics with ease!

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When women are given complete control over their reproduction, welfare and child support should also be abolished. Her choice, her decision, her responsibility. In fact, if we abolish child support and welfare, the illegitimate birth rate would become zero.

don't have sex

Stop having sex, whores.

nobody that is against abortion has sex in the first place. what difference does it make?

Or just vote to ban it. Win / win really.

there is - you're stupid

>there is
What is it then? Those who don't like abortion don't have to get them.

>Gross oversimplification.
No it isn't. Whites are smart enough to use abortion as a last resort. Blacks use it out of convenience right up until they decided they have enough welfare keeids and get their tubes tied or get IUD's because those methods work independent of IQ. Hence abortion would change the fertiilty rates in whites but not blacks.

>Is that so unreasonable? Besides, it also prevents the creation of single mothers. The greatest threat to society.
It would not be unreasonable if you were actually correct but you arent. Women, especially black women, are dumb. They think babydady Tyrone is going to stick around so they shit out a kid and oops single mom. Abortion does not change single motherhood which is likely the main reason, as I just stated, there's no conclusive link between abortion and crime.

>Your theoretical pearl clutching describes an existing child, and compares it to a likely worthless parasite
if you think a fetus is a parasite then it's a waste of my time to explain the philosophy behind personhood and when it's established so I won't bother. The unborn are symbionts for starters, not parasites.

>If you're preventing them from having a failsafe, then you're just a prick who wants to increase suffering for no reason.
WIth this fallacy you can claim that painlessly killing an unwanted 1 year old is good because it decreases suffering instead of increasing it because you're allowing the failsafe of murder.

>An abortion elsewhere in the world doesn't impact you in the least.
Then correspondingly outlawing abortion elsewhere in the world would not impact YOU in the least huh? Hence you have no reason to oppose outlawing abortion. Didn't think that one through did you?

Only feasible thing posted in this entire thread.

Some have feminine penises you cis male shitlord!!!

>Whites are smart enough to use abortion as a last resort.
And this is bad? How many Mormons do you see having a problematic amount of abortions?
Anyway, you're missing the point. Cost of living and quality of life are what limits family size for Europeans. Not contraceptives.
>Abortion does not change single motherhood which is likely the main reason
It prevents it among a better quality of people.
>if you think a fetus is a parasite
No, the whelped bastard is the parasite on society.
>The unborn are symbionts
That's not how a symbiote works. The mother doesn't rely on the fetus.
>you can claim that painlessly killing an unwanted 1 year old is good because it decreases suffering
I'll second that motion.
>Then correspondingly outlawing abortion elsewhere in the world would not impact YOU in the least huh?
It would, be increasing the numbers of negroes and leftists, as well as increasing the labour pool, and burdening those who have made a mistake (increasing the lower caste).
>Didn't think that one through did you?
Wanna eat those words, AOC?

This post is great and good

>And this is bad? How many Mormons do you see having a problematic amount of abortions?
Anyway, you're missing the point. Cost of living and quality of life are what limits family size for Europeans. Not contraceptives.
Mormons?? Rofl. The point that went over your head is that abortion being justified because it "keeps the black population down" is irrelevant because it's not true. Tangents about religious groups are irrelevant.

>It prevents [single motherhood] among a better quality of people.
I just gave evidence this is not the case. Saying I'm wrong is not an argument.
>>you can claim that painlessly killing an unwanted 1 year old is good because it decreases suffering
>I'll second that motion.
Not gonna debate with some barbaric savage. You lose by default because society will never tolerate murder of children hence your mindless ideologies will never be brought to fruition without violent force. You might as well say you're right because if we just kill everyone who disagrees then nobody will be left to say you're wrong...an idiotic philosophy. people like you will go extinct if you can't convince the masses of your ideologies with logic and reason.

>That's not how a symbiote works. The mother doesn't rely on the fetus.
Dependence is not a necessary requirement of symbionts, there merely needs to be a mutually beneficial relationship. look up what words means instead of bullshitting about things you don't understand.

>It would, be increasing the numbers of negroes and leftists, as well as increasing the labour pool, and burdening those who have made a mistake (increasing the lower caste).
If this were actually true, none of it is, then abortion elsewhere in the world WOULD affect me you complete dumbass and your former statement is therefore wrong.

Since it is about choice and freedom and not about potential life or killing of small humans the argument should include men.

If men learn of the pregnancy, they can have a contractual abortion.
Ie from the time they learn about the woman being pregnant they can have 8 months to decide if they want to be part of the childs life, if they decide not to they wont pay child support.

>abortion being justified because it "keeps the black population down" is irrelevant
Not at all. It doesn't need that as justification. It's just a cherry on top.
>Tangents about religious groups
My point was that traditional peoples aren't going to get them. There's no harm done.
>I just gave evidence
Where?
>Not gonna debate with some barbaric savage
Pot, kettle, etc.
>society will never tolerate murder of children
It already does, according to you.
>if we just kill everyone who disagrees then nobody will be left to say you're wrong
How did you possibly arrive at that idiotic conclusion? I'm not the one limiting peoples rights, after all.
> people like you will go extinct if you can't convince the masses of your ideologies with logic and reason.
That's actually my point. Anti-abortionists have literally nothing but emotion to argue with.
> there merely needs to be a mutually beneficial relationship
Was this meant to help your case?
> then abortion elsewhere in the world WOULD affect me
Positively, sure. A deadbeat aborting a crack baby doesn't harm you. But your tax dollars having to support that crack baby who later tries to mug you might.

its murder, even against nig babies. sorry leftypol women will be forced to carry to full term.

dont get pregnant cunts

>meme flag

its wrong. you cannot commit a wrong even if there is a benefit. if you are for that you believe in situation ethics, or as i like to call it, kike ethics.

Men have zero reproductive rights. Why should we burden the reproductive responsibilities?

i dunno either. its a few grand and covered by most insurance AND planned parentlesshood offers discounts.

cunts wont do it tho because it makes them lower grade marrying material and just want men to fix the "problem" for them anyway

So you want to become a special arract soldier in the NVA? Go ahead and do it.

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>you cannot commit a wrong even if there is a benefit
How is it wrong if there is a net benefit to society? Again, just because you think that no one should have guns, or be allowed to drive, or get an abortion, it doesn't justify limiting that facility to others who will use it without damaging society.

You know the law applies even to rape victims, right? It's basically a jewish plot to keep wages low.

The solution isn't to limit the rights of others, but for rights to also be given to men.

>attack

Praise Kek.

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Stupid men have zero reproductive rights.

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>youtube.com/watch?v=y59g54hC-aY
>210,207

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Vasectomys are not permanent you moron. You can have it reversed at anytime