She Said No

I'll stay with her. I have a truck but its a El Camino.

Pray that she says no and ask yourself why you are paying that many shekels for a piece of carbon that they keep I warehouses to artificially drive up the price. In fact change you whole goddamn life up dude. Marriage is a trap and a curse and you’ve been totally brainwashed. There’s still time to change. Take the red pill.

She's into emerals. I wonder if Debeers makes a green diamond.

Holy fucking wew on a stick bat man, you’re gonna marry her and you haven’t even boned? Fuck me man

Give her a cubic zirconia.
More beautiful than diamond, but much cheaper.
If she's not satisfied, she's not the right one.

She has sucked numerous dicks before you. Please don’t do this to yourself user I’m begging you.

The jews want you to spend two years salary on a ring though.

You think your girl would tell the difference between a fake or real diamond? And if she cares in the first place, move along. The state of men these days.

run bro she’s clearly sucked cock before

>3 months pay ring required
Man, these burger (((traditions))) are cucked

>what did men do before that? Give them Goats? Cheese?

They gave them a ring without a worthless rock made that way with artificial scarcity, obviously.

She divorces you, gets half your money and all your house and you are forced to pay the other half of your money in alimoney.

hahahaha this cunt is going to absolutely ruin you, stupid fuck

Keep it as an investment. Sell it if you need money down the line.

if youre not just buying gold or silver youre literally pissing away your money they make gems synthetically and diamonds are cheap as rocks, oh and the band is porbably an alloy too so they can mark it up to jew you

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Jesus dude. You're already cucked.

I'm so tired of red pills. Red pill on
-immigration
-jews
-blacks
-niggers
-spics
-history books
-Twinkies
-water
-water filters
-water filter salesmen
-tranny porn on phones
-redpill on blue pills
-redpill on honk honk.
-red pills on grass-feed
-farm red pills.
-firefox redpils
-vitamix redpills
-keto redpills.
-ubuntu redpills
-2millions jews redpills
-4million jews redpills
-redpill on wood doors

Its getting like everyone is red-pilling everyone. I cant tell who is red-pilling who anymore. No more pills.

what is the tradition in your part of the world?

Another idea:
If you really intend to spend 21K on the right of some girl to take advantage of you later, buy her a car for that money, put the key on a cheap ring and hand it to her.
If she would rather like an overpriced stone with almost zero resale value instead, dump her, for she's genuinely retarded and your children will inherit her genes.

>emerals
Kek.

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>she said she was a natural.

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I have a co-worker from Sudan, and they give the girls father a shit load of cows

>investment
>Diamond

Top fucking kek. Jewelery loses like 80% of it's value once it leaves the store...

>What happens if she says no? Can I return the ring? 30days ? Keep the receipt?
Oh yea you keep the receipt. And they'll give you warranty papers too. So that if she damages the thing you bring it in and they repair it. These are important papers. So you put them in an important papers place got it?
And yea you can take the ring back.
And yes, give her, her rings. If you found a little trad virgin just do it right and stop bitching.

Usually the man gets a payment from the girls family.

Marriage is supposed to not be that big a deal with someone you actually love. If you really need to go all out with an engagement ring and everything, this marriage is doomed to end quickly anyway.

He has already bought it, nigger, I am not talking about investing in general, might as well keep it and sell when he needs the money.

Natural what? Like her vagoo is "natural"? Op 100% got a blowjob from a tranny

As someone who has bought a ring when proposing to my wife, I will say that it's more a reflection on me when she shows people. And they show alot of fucking people, it's what they do. So unless you want to look like a faggot, by a decent ring that she can show off.

Cmon man . Shitty larp . Every inch of your storys a bullshit lie.

Buy her a beautiful antique emerald ring. Look online. At least it will have a resale value and look nicer than a new generic diamond ring

She is 100% a tranny.

Tell me about it. I bought 5000 bucks worth of gold necklaces and if I want to sell them I only get scrap value which is 1000 bucks.

Some people give rings (this is mainly influenced by American mass media), but the diamond thing is more or less optional. And there is no measure, what the ring should cost.
Engagement rings are rather cheap, wedding bands are much more expensive as they are massive gold or platinum, but still nowhere near 21k for normal people.

Succubi turn men into zombie slaves.

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Give er' cheese
Actually a fruit basket sounds autistic, but i'd go for it

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3 month's salary isn't a tradition in any part of the world, it's Jew marketing from the 60's but I guess stupid good goy burgers still fall for it. If she sucks dick like a champ but won't fuck you until you buy a ring then you are her beta bux. She has sucked many dicks and she's probably fucking Tyrone behind your back. You're a chump with a decent salary which is the gold standard for gold digging whores. Have fun raising Chad's kid you silly cunt.

user, buy an inexpensive ring. Cubic zirconias are indistinguishable from diamonds unless you really know what to look for. She won't know the difference between 24 karats and 12 karats.

Now, if you're really intent on marrying this woman, you need to spend the majority of your money on a good lawyer and a solid prenuptial agreement. If you don't, you're going to get divorce raped in a few short years.

>She's an excellent cocksucker
>She's a virgin

These are mutually exclusive, user. The fact that you don't understand this is why you're going to get divorce raped.

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Never go to the courthouse.

Also, my girl is gonna get a sapphire when I pop the question.

...and regardless of that... we will never go to the courthouse. If she pushes, it will be "don't you love me? Why do you want to bring pen and paper into this?"

Marriage is overrated. If you are registered partners you have the same rights (in my country) but separate economies.

>I have a truck but its a El Camino.
B A S E D
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Become what many OPs here are: a fag!

Thanks fucking Jow Forums, I now see patterns where there are none.

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This.. I hope that OP was trolling and actually had sex in his life, but you will know when she wants to marry you. Good indications are:
- You both live together
- You (or both) have a steady income
- Her family likes you
- You both want children
- She is Christian
- She's not a partygirl or a social media addicted whore
- She's not fucking black guys behind your back

Good luck and godspeed OP.

>Gotta put a ring on it. My salary per month is 7k post tax, so three months is 21k.
Holy shit.
We've lost him guys, he's a goner.
He's too deep in the delusion and willing to spend almost of his hard earned money.
Really bad decision.

Why are men this stupid?!

hmm

I like this graph, it means ~ 50% of women are good partners. I think having up to three premarital partners doesn't make you a whore.

Burger whores are genuinely retarded and self-absolved.
If other parts of the world, if your bitch is really high maintenance. they can easily be pleased with a simple ring of silver, gold or platinum.

Your burgerland is completely entrenched with hedonism.

10/10

>shits fucked. But she is a virgin. Gotta put a ring on it.
Do you even hear yourself you fucking NPC. You sounds like a fucking zombie. Break free of the vaginal jew for once you subhuman

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Ask, and give a small gift, which might as well be a watch, a bracelet or any other kind of personal, long lasting item.

I engaged with a family ring of simple gold.

By the way, if you are proposing to the kind of girls that looks at the ring and its diamond to decide on a such a lifetime commitment, you better hope she says NO, because you're otherwise with a shallow and fucked up person.

>but she said she was a natural.

she's clearly lying.

yeah, this

*and unreal expectations on the retarded woman's part.

>Can I return the ring?
For 10% of what you paid for it? Sure.

Ok the replace “redpill” with the term insight or wisdom or whatever you want

What a fairytale

And she is lying about it. Giant red flag m

every fucking body knows the diamond jew scam. redpilled women want sapphires.

>said no
>buy her a truck.
Brother no. Make her come to you. You're getting ducked.

>tradition
It is literally just some bs a diamond company made up in the 20s

> What happens if she says no?
You end the relationship say goodbye and move on with your search.
It's unlikely a woman would stay with you in a longer term relationship if she didn't think you'd make a good husband / father. The risk isn't as large as you think it is.
What you have to think about is the risk of divorce rape 10 years down the line.
> I would rather give her a car or something more helpful.
House / land? Depends on the girl. How vapid is she?
>Debeers made diamonds mandatory for engagement rings in the 1960s
1940s
And they're lab made today, so anything you spend on it is basically being burned, future value is 0.
That's the point though... That you have enough wealth to burn money. Again, depends on the woman.
> what did men do before that?
We bought them from their fathers. Frankly that would be less terrifying.

Platinum is a good buy at the moment, cheaper than gold. It's usually about 2x the price.

> she did BJ me very well
> she is a virgin.
kek no.

>Why are men this stupid?!
Pussy. Duh.

>Some people give rings (this is mainly influenced by American mass media
The ring is a "taken" marker.

Yes I know.
That is the function of wedding bands.
The engagement thing is mainly astroturfed.

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use it as a fishing lure.

Ring is a modern concept.

Ancient humans preferred brackets or necklaces.

OP, diamond ring resell value sucks.

But have you ever considered pearls?

You may think Expensive Pearls are outdated but Boomer Women actually prefer pearls more often than diamond rings.

Japan has a famous brand of pearls they sell to Americans for example.

I suggest everybody in this thread to look up luxury pearls.

>Ring is a modern concept.
Not really, ring as a symbol of MARRIAGE predates Christianity, and was used for sure in the hellenistic era.

Reminder that these savages don't even hide their intentions.

>John Bolton admits to lying and deceiving the public
youtu.be/WGvoX9GMml8

>Israel Lobbyist calls for false flag to start Iran war
youtu.be/LTcCivoG3mo

>That Time John Bolton Said It’s Good To Lie About War
archive.is/5HhZ8

archive.is/fbXqU
>It should also be noted that Bolton is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, an organization whose members have influenced the state of geopolitics for the last few generations. Bolton was also a member of the neo-conservative, warhawk think tank, “Project for the New American Century,” which was enthusiastically promoting the lie about Saddam Hussein possessing weapons of mass destruction.

>The Washington Post reported Wednesday that Trump has grown frustrated with national security adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo as their hawkish posture risks spiraling out of control.
washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-frustrated-by-advisers-is-not-convinced-the-time-is-right-to-attack-iran/2019/05/15/bbf5835e-1fbf-4035-a744-12799213e824_story.html

>We need to guard against another mistake in the Middle East. Here’s how the march to war has begun.
>Break with Europe, Russia and China and withdraw from a nuclear deal that had completely stopped Iran’s work to build a nuclear bomb? Check. Unilaterally reimpose sanctions designed to cripple Iran’s economy, without buy-in from our allies? Check. Take the unprecedented step of designating the Islamic Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, a move consistently opposed by U.S. military leaders? Check. Move the USS Abraham Lincoln strike group and a bombing wing into Iran’s backyard? Check.
eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/05/14/donald-trump-john-bolton-mike-pompeo-war-iran-column/1192516001/

youtu.be/hLuG98Yithg
JFK's efforts against Israeli nuclear program, which led to his assassination.

>getting married in the current year of 2019
Fucking idiot

if she says no, why would you give her anything at all after that? It's over.

If she's not begging for a ring months before you finally propose, you're not doing it right. No man should have to beg/convince a woman to sign his life and half his assets away.

>BAM!
I miss his shows kek

Get her a fake. After years and you are sure she is the one and isn't going anywhere swap it for a real one.

If she checks, shes a cunt and you shouldn't be with her.

Take the ring back and reinvest your money in something that will make you more money. Stop spending money on your dumpster fire, money pit girlfriend.

Idiot. If she won't fuck you now, she won't guck you then either. Plus even if she does the sex will be bland as shit.

>an F150 Deisil
cringe. Kill yourself redneck cuck.

Back then people got married for security and prosperity- not for leisure and sense of individuality. Back then there was ONLY conservative logic.
Then the enlightenment came and created people with higher faculties that could then abstractly develop the precursor to what we consciously view as society today.

Back then women were property. And technically by all biological standards- they still are. Yet here we are treating them as equals. Because emotions and feelings matter more than longterm survival- A Man's right to his own liberty and happiness- as well as society and culture as a whole being flushed in the collective minds of every westerner- till it's all in books and nobody understands them- so they just burn them lol

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I'd rather have a guy give me a little $10 silver band and then pay off some of my student debt than waste money on a stupid rock. Seriously I don't need a stupid stone I need cash money.
>not $10
they are second-hand.

>Ring
You got jewed

Women are a distraction from whats really important. their thottish irrational behavior coupled with great power to remove your freedom, wealth, custody, and sanity is just too big of a risk to invest your soul into a woman. cus u will get heartbroken

You bought a diamond for a woman without a hymen?

I just saied to my then gf we are getting married pick a date. She sayed literally "cool"(Якo) and called her parents.
I dont get the ring thong at all. My parents never had any rings ever. Or anyone I know for that matter.

At Least check for a hymen you retard
>good bj
>virgin
Kek she's either a tranny or knows your a sucker