I’m completely torn on whether or not abortion is a good thing or not. Try to convince me one way or the other

I’m completely torn on whether or not abortion is a good thing or not. Try to convince me one way or the other.

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Pro: Less nigglets
Con: Killing white infants

i dont care about convincing some jap that abortions are bad


all ill say is enjoy your falling population and enjoy those under replacement birth rates

Women are property because they have no agency.

When theyvsay that they want their rights tell them they shluld have been aborted and watch their look of horror.

That's how you know it's all bullshit.

Nigglets sort themselves out.
Whites are lost forever.

in 20 years I will make an infographic showing the increase in black population and resultant increase in crime and violence in alabama

What race is it?

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No thanks.

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Fuck me how long is this debate going to go on for? Every hour there’s a new abortion thread. It’s so boring.

I’m not a jap you retard.

These seem to be the main areas of debate among Jow Forums. While I do believe abortion is murder and murder is wrong, you can’t deny the societal benefits it offers.

We're not looking at the right problem. The right problem is that marriage is screwed up. An aborted child born in wedlock is a tragedy and a murder. A divorce is a tragedy. An aborted "accident" born to a single mother slut would probably become a mentally ill criminal anyway, so... yeah, probably not so great a loss.

Well, that's not a nice way to put it, but...

there is no argument for it
use contraception
>but muh rape
have a contraception method which rape can't impregnate past or use a morning after pill.
there are many avenues to go down that don't involve the slaughtering of a child.

*conceived, not born

This too. What kind of dumbass still conceives accidentally with all the effective birth control methods?

Like, just stack two of them. 99% effective + 99% effective = no baby, at all, ever.

The white infants that get killed are usually either retarded, or children of white trash or liberal whores.

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Less abortions means more niggers means more crime means more pissed off white people means good politics for my side

>Whites are lost forever.
Wrong. Whites are due for a baby boom in a few generations.

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unz.com/akarlin/breeders-revenge/

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It's a sin

>I’m not a jap you retard.
Says the jap

What you retards fail to realize is that if you have to be retarded to not know how to use contraceptives properly, getting rid of abortion will mean that retards will breed the fastest.

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>B-but muh niggers

If you are willing to let unborn white children fight and die in the race war for you, you are a coward and a traitor.

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t. pic related

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The biology community across the political spectrum believes with a 95% consensus that life begins at conception making the ending of life from that point on both legally and morally murder because at birth you are afforded the right to life

Look at abortion as a negative right on the government. The idiotic mantra of "HURR! DURR! ITA WOMENS RITE TAH CHUUUUSE! Is a retard, meme argument. It's really a negative right in that the government can't force a woman to continue with an unwanted abortion.

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Women who don't have children/are unmarried past the age of 30 shouldnt be able to vote, they aren't interested in the future and will continue living in the moment until they expire, but not without leading young girls to the same pointless ends. I'd say let abortion continue in progressive localities only, if only because they will destroy themselves.

Abortion is murder. How would you treat a murderer?

What's the race?

Your leaders ALWAYS want more people, not less.

If you kill your own babies, they will just import them from the 3rd world.

Well, if baby is healthy and normal - it's bad.
If baby is not healthy, deformed or impared to the point where aborting it will be a net gain for society - it's good.
Technically aborting black babies is good.

I don't get why scientists don't make artificial wombs, that way if a mother decides she doesn't want it then it can be taken out of her.
Right now this is the biggest problem.

This

As long as the strong and the redpilled arent getting abortions I think it's good.
Niggers are wiping out their next generation, Libs are wiping out their next generation. Superior children with superior upbringings grow up in a world with less competition.

Nogs suck but spics still breed like crazy, so it doesn't matter in the end.

Overturning Roe v Wade is the best distraction.

It depends entirely on wether you believe a fetus is human. Personally, I do.
If not, abortion is a powerful tool for guiding your society. If so, its murder of an innocent and government authorization of the murder of innocents is always bad no matter the justification.
I say, use your inherent instincts. Much like female and male are a matter of chromosomes and your biological body knows instantly despite aesthetics, human and not human should be intuitively discernable. If you (not applicable to sociopaths) can look in its eyes and kill it with your own hands, go ahead and support abortion. If you feel that twinge of revulsion and guilt before you wring its neck you are probably murdering the innocent

The availability of (subsidised) abortion makes women extremely promiscuous.
How is enhanced sexual deviancy from a type of creature that already shouldn't be trusted to handle its own reproduction a societal benefit?

Also the retard argument of HURR. DUH GIBSMEDAT CANT TELL A WOMEN WHATEVER TAH DO WIF HER BAWDY! DURRR! Is an equally retarded argument because it has a long history of doing just that. You cant put certain substances in your body. You cant assault others with your body, etc.

Pro: I'd be very surprised to find that the vast majority of aborted white infants wouldn't have been raised by a single mother regardless, neutralizing the cost. I heard that more blacks are aborted than born in NYC, any idea what their birth rates would be like without abortion? I'm all set on an expedited demographic shift.

offsetting*

humans are tools and thus they have to be efficient while they are young meaning that for a capitalist society having a pregnant woman at 20 is a wasted woman.
For other ecocultures the labor benefit is not a primordial target but rather other parameters influence their systems, for a christian based family happiness is a must achieve goal and you will gain that happiness by building a healthy family so basically abortion is just an impediment to achieve that goal and has to be fought back.
Doctrines like feminism, liberalism. socialism, are all heavily linked with Capital and rather disagree on how to manage it, happiness is achieved by having a decent income and a social status based on that criteria.

>feminism, corporations have to hire more woman
>socialism. we have to raise minium wage
>liberalism, bureaucracy is bad for entrepreneurship
>comunism, rich bad
>capitalism, money will make you happy
>fascism, jews steal our money
>christianity, interest rates are a sin

Our modern world is fucked up because the priority revolves around economics rather than the happiness and well being of our people, all our points of views are impregnated with capital thus shifting the actual priorities to a fantasy world, the only ones that understud this problems were the Jews, they just have kids, live in houses cramped up with people (they love ghettos) and ignore modern technology, people that reached similar conclusions as the Jews can be found all around the world, its people that live in rural areas and are self providing, they cultivate their own future and happiness like for example the Amish. The peculiar thing about this groups is that they have modesty rules, no tv, no modern shit, plain clothes... maybe living a simpler live style inst that bad...

Unwanted babies are not the problem. It’s the unwanted mothers that are a problem. Just abort the unwanted mothers! Problem solved!

Girls and women will always have abortions, the question is whether they will be legal and safe.

>I’m completely torn on whether or not abortion is a good thing or not. Try to convince me one way or the other.
having abortions is bad and should generally be discouraged

legislating what you can do to your own body (your physical property) is worse as it presumes your body belongs to the state, if your body was not state property then law would have no reach prohibiting what you do with it

if women are state property of course men are as well as they are born from women thus by accepting legislation regarding abortion you accept that you are a slave

“My body, My choice.” That’s what I told them at the Draft Board. They just laughed at me.

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>Jow Forums wants lower taxes and state intrusion
>would prefer an unwanted screaming shitter be raised on their dime instead of allowing the roastie to just get an abortion
Explain yourselves. Now.

This.

ShUt Up DiScOrD tRaNnY

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In case of very rare rape or retards, fine. As a form of shitty birth control no. It shouldn't be outright illegal, but should be socially scorned enough it's not done.

Lmao where the fuck did that thumbnail come from, I made the meme. You glowniggers are too funny, stop messing with my files.

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>Thinks I also support welfare for anyone but widows and legit cripples

It happens when images are posted at the exact same time. I bet there's the reverse somewhere else in some board if not here

>sad Hogg is sad

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Bit of a letdown, was impressed with the [perceived] creativeness and humor.

Once we get artificial wombs women will be all but rendered useless

I was on the fence about it (thought it was none of my business) until someone posted that one gif/webbum. Now I'm fairly against it except for extenuating circumstances.

It mainly culls the population of leftists and niggers

We need to meme abortion as another privilege white people have. Get them to straight up say white women shouldn't have abortions.
>white women don't have the social economic disadvantage as POCs
>white women are taking advantage of a system that was created to benefit POCs
>white women are more financially stable than POCs
>white women have a safety net that POCs do not have, i.e friends, family, church, social circles
Help me think of more this has meme potential

> women angry about taking responsibility

When the FUCK did Jow Forums become a Christcuck 'WE LOVE BABIES' board?

I'm seeing the gayest shit I've ever seen in the abortion threads. WHO CARES ABOUT KILLING FETUSES. Literally fucking WHO. And most of them are black!

Most of them are black and you're sad? Because your gay desert religion encourages the breeding of dumb slaves? Holy shit guys get it together.

You think Hitler spent any time worrying about protecting low IQ babies being born into a clown world?

NO. You fix society, de-clown it, get everybody working towards something, and THEN you worry about the babies. As of now, why would you even want someone born into Clown World? That's a lot more cruel than vacuuming out a gooey clump of cells without a nervous system.

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(Shhhh! We didn’t. It’s just a game we play with the libtards. They threaten to take our guns, we return the favor by threatening to take their child sacrifices. It’s a big secret, though so don’t tell anyone. It’s just how the Uniparty manages things. Once you have seen it enough times you recognize it. Every election has to be about some trivial thing, flag burning, faggot marriage, it’s just a game the Uniparty loves to play.)

Giving women a choice ever
That's where this whole mess started
Women need to have zero choices, They need the Full brunt of Consequences to behave their is no goodness in them that isn't self serving (meaning none at all)

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This

Thing is, abortion isn't a right. It's a means of avoiding consequence. Women seem to think that their right to do what they want with their bodies is being taken away here, but it's not. Women can sleep with whomever they want, that's their right. They don't, however, have the right to avoid the consequence of being a whore, which is pregnancy. And with rape, pregnancies resulting from a rape make up a small minority of pregnancies, and many of those instances can be avoided by women not being whores.

Not a hill I would die on but whatever, if it makes people more sexually responsible then it's probably a good thing

It is degenerate unless done to a rape baby, in the first trimester of gestation, preferably after executing the rapist

here's my solution for abortion-
>for black: mandatory
>for everyone else: illegal

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Retard also die the fastest. Win win

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This. The only provision ever that makes abortion permissable is if it is a confirmed instance of violent rape.

If they make abortion this extreme it's only right to double the amount of child support a man has to pay if he doesn't want any part of it and it begins at conception.

Spics get abortions my friend. And it depends on the spic itself. (Southern spics have two to four while central has 4 to 6)
>t. surrounded by spics and niggers

It's only bad when you personally want to keep that baby. Otherwise there's not a single reason to bother (even bible never said anything about miscarrying being sinful or foetus being a baby)
Thus we must bring incubators for foetuses on the market. I know they're already in the lab state, and they're going to be on the market soon.
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Abortion itself is not a good thing per se.
But...access to safe, legal abortions is a good thing.

It’s good or bad. It’s necessary.

>if it makes people more sexually responsible
that’s a big if

Abortion is murder, but it's for the greater good in many cases. Kill them before they grow up to kill others.

not only do they have that, they also have the power to #metoo any man that looks at them funny.

it’s a sin.

There isn't really any argument against it. The anti-abortion crowd is usually just trying to rationalize it somehow to appeal to the christcucks.

Why do white people have to tell you Asians fucking everything?

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Protip: If you are too stupid to use condoms, birth control, plan B, pull out, abstain, or otherwise not get pumped full of jizz while fertile, you can murder an infant for free to satisfy your destructive urges
Con: None man, just kill babies its awesome

Abortion is clearly not a good thing.

However, any reasonable and logical person (ie someone who is not simply dogmatically following a religious or autistic view) can understand that it is better for it to be legal than not.

The real question that any intelligent person eventually is faced with when thinking about abortion is *when* should it be legal. Obviously it should be illegal (except in extreme circumstances which I will not discuss here), say, a day before labor. Obviously, it should be legal a day after conception.

A reasonable answer to me, at least, is that the point at which the fetus is viable without the mother (with or without external technological assistance) it should no longer be legal for the mother to abort it. In fact, there should be criminal consequences for perfuming and receiving an abortion past this point.

I think this is an extraordinarily reasonable perspective. If you don't come to this conclusion, or something relatively similar you aren't really trying to consider the problem.

It boggles my mind that we are still talking about this in this country when the answer is simple, if difficult in practice.

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its good when nonwhites do it because they are vermin