Is being against premarital sex just something that's espoused by the Christians on this board...

Is being against premarital sex just something that's espoused by the Christians on this board, or is it just universally bad?

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Islam is against premarital sex too.

It's bad in principle, because there's always an assumed risk of pregnancy or long term emotional attachment.
People have marriage because the people before us were smart enough to know that we're braindead and will do the stupidest shit if we don't feel responsibility for it, not to mention everyone wants to be someone else's first at some point.

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The reality is Christians (irl) don't even tend to give a fuck. Almost everyone has sex before marriage.

You shouldn't do it to ensure that you're together for the right reasons, AKA you actually like each other and arn't just hooking up for sex.

plus if you want to break up it's super easy because you didn't bone.

There is nothing wrong with premartial sex as long as you consider the person you're sleeping with to be your partner for the rest of your life. Do not stick your dick into a female if the thought of her being the mother of your kid turns you off.

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Marriage doesn't have legitimacy anymore. Why would I ask the government -- the same government that also reconises gay marriage -- to recognise my marriage?

Im not a godfag, its bad because it keeps you from bonding with your partner, trends with various bad relationship metrics

For tax perks I guess.

Being against premarital sex is just a device for beta Jow Forums faggots to use to insinuate their celibacy is their choice. Just like their "debt free virgins without tattoos" bullshit.

Yeah, even the good Catholic girl I dated a while back had slept around in the past.

Is there any place to find decent women anymore?

Women are subhuman animals so they shouldnt fuck before marriage, but men are free to fuck as much as they want.

You broke things off because of her past? What did she said to you afterwards?

H O E S M A D

From a scientific biological standpoint, sexual activity between any two or more people outside of great responsible control will be unhealthy and hazardous due to the genitals and sexual fluids being extremely effective growth and transfer mediums for bacteria and viruses.
Yes, it's "bad" unless you're batshit enough to desire infectious diseases.

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Have. Sex.

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Fornicators get the rope.

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yeah you have to marry your goat first

So what you are saying is that women belong in the kitchen or the bedroom, should be barefoot and pregnant, that we should lower the age of consent, and engage in a little domestic discipline when required?

That we should vote for far right christian fringe groups that have no chance of winning, so that the mainstream parties (conservative / republicans) politicians will start to represent the above values and people like you? (moving the needle)

stop bitching and do something about it

the best option is waiting for WW3 to fuck everything up to the point that people are begging the far right to save them

>universally bad
Not sure about that but it sure as hell is statistically bad for women in just about every conceivable way

Sluts are mentally damaged, diseased, and make terrible mothers.

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I've always been a volcel, I don't even know why

Kek...
Have a (you) bongfren

oh yeah just vote some more :^)! that will solve everything

Man I know, I grew up in the church and a lot of chicks I knew were major sluts, a lot of them are single moms now. I've had good luck meeting respectable women doing volunteer work around my city. Met my current gf at a toy drive for low income kids last Christmas.

You've been crying in every fucking thread

Poo. Loo.

She was actually the one who broke things off, go figure.

It depends how European you are user. Generally, most of the world accepts 1 to 3 partners before marriage for a woman. Got to kiss a couple of frogs and all that.

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>Got to kiss a couple of frogs and all that.
kiss or fuck? 2-3 premarital partners already drops the floor on the probability of stable marriage thereafter. how about nonacceptance of nonvirgins

>dat protection
>dem insults
Attacking insecurity says more to your character than those you attack...

Wow. I did not expect that result from Japan

Wish more thought this way user. The world would be a much better place.

Projection... Fuck

Yes

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I'm not an American so it's not an issue for the European or British man. We don't want virgins, apart from the Muslims. We don't want slags either. It's pretty natural to have a couple of partners and to be honest, most Christians I know simply had anal sex and pretended it wasn't proper sex. It was ridiculous.

but it's true :^)

You wouldn’t buy a car without a test drive.

Premarital sex is objectively a bad decision. Neither me nor my wife were virgins when we met and we both regret not being able to gift that to each other, and worse, giving it to people we no longer give a fuck about.

You're brainwashed into thinking that gEtTiNg lAiD is LiT, and bEinG a ViRgIn is lAmE aS fUcK so that you fuck around and get STDs and/or pregnant, have abortions etc. Over time this all trivializes sex and intimacy. Combine that with the nihilist worldview that entertainment, pop culture, public education etc pushes on you, and you end up believing shit like "there's no such thing as love, love is just a chemical, sex is just sex, gays are okay"

All this and more is designed to dismantle the Nuclear Family, drive birthrates into the ground, and promote degeneracy.

tl;Dr read the fucking post, faggot
I'm right and you know it, fight me nigger.

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Explain to me why premarital sex is paramount. Imagine getting married to a man and finding out he sucks in bed and can't satisfy you. What are your options? Put up with a sexually unfulfilling marriage for the rest of your days? Get a messy divorce that could've been prevented had you known earlier? Have extramarital relations?

All of those options are shit.

I'm not a Christian but I still strongly believe it's universally a bad thing.

Would hate to get married only to find my wife is like a dead fish in bed

Train here up.

Based and checked. Thanks for the input

WHy tho?

All women are secret freaks. They want to be dominated and told what to do but they're too shy to say it. And a virgin bride is no different. She wants it the way you do, because she likes and and wants to make you happy, but she's too shy to tell you.

God that is the dumbest argument. You really didn't not put much thought into it.

What do you think happens to you both after you've practiced?

Imagine only having sex with one girl your entire life

Imagine it

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I've had sex with way too many women. I'd much rather have one I can really trust and I'm comfortable with. And I can guarantee you if she was the right one, like many I've had could have been, then she would work hard to make it worth my while.

Don't be fooled by this picture, this girl is hiding a MASSIVE pair of milkers under it.

One girl who has sound morals and manages the resources I provide and raises my children to be moral productive members of society? Yeah you're right. Totally better to just rail random sluts who've had miles of cock run through them and live alone.

We met sort of late in the semester, and she was moving for an internship next semester and said she didn't want either of us to get too dependent on each other. In reality, it was probably a lie. If you meet someone you really care about, a semester of long distance isn't a dealbreaker.
To be completely honest, I would have liked nothing more than to just have sex with one girl. All I really want is someone to build a life with. I've dated a lot of girls, but haven't really dated any one girl for a long time.

I would love to only have sex with one girl my entire life knowing I can ejaculate inside her every time without being suspicious of cheating and STD's.

Well, she was a whore, then you didn't lost much ameribro.

at least i'd be having sex

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Yeah, when I downloaded this pic I trimmed the other half with her naked out of it. She's cute, the nudes just make it more depressing to me for some reason.

I don't have a completely clean slate either, though. I've sort of come to terms with the fact that I can't demand absolute purity out of my future wife because I don't meet those standards either.

I wish
>both partners saving their virginity for the right person to come along
>both experiencing the joys of sex after an unforgettable day of wedding
>form an emotional, psychological, chemical, physical, spiritual bond with each other as they passionately embrace themselves in the most personal, vulnerable way
We don't know what we missed out on by having meaningless sex and ruining an otherwise impactful experience.

Sounds great to me!

I'm a dude.
Fair enough. Asexuality is a thing
Wtf are you even talking about?Nonsense. This is the "you only don't like homosexuals because secretly you are homosexual" fallacy. Try again.
wat?

*posts longitudinal divorce rates compared to the number of reported premarital sexual partners (as reported by the CDC)*
heh nothing personal toasty

You're right, everyone knows it. Chill

Once more, slowly for the retards, I'm a dude.

The purpose of sex is procreation. Raising kids is best done in marriage It's that simple.

Yes, (((voting))) will save us, it’s not like we voted to try and turn things around in 2016 and got a Jew cock sucking puppet instead of anything

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Call me a cuck beta bitch incel all you want but if I were to fuck someone, I would only want to fuck someone I love and have a deep connection with and that fucking would be called making love. Yea I got hormones, what do I do to silence it? Masturbate or use that energy to help with my works. I view people addicted to sex has low IQ immoral animals. Always have. To me that’s always been common sense. Guess it’s not too common for most people. Fucking some random hoe has no interest to me, it disgusts me.

that doesn't negate the fact that premarital sexual activity is predictive of poor quality marriages

What do you expect from a godless nation such as the United States? Over 3000 babies are murdered everyday. Never mind the sodomites! God bless America my ass, give me a break

You can call me sexist, but the effect of promiscuity is worse on women than men.
Men can more easily leave behind the degenerate past than women.
Trusting a women that has had a degenerate past is difficult.

Is that supposed to convince me that free people deciding to fuck one another is bad? Because it's not really important to me. Marriage is an antiquated concept whose sole purpose these days is to provide tax benefits. Marriage is undeniably disadvantageous to men of any means. It's disadvantageous to men altogether actually. That said, I fail to see how consenting adults dissolving what is basically a legal incorporation bears and relevance. If people want to get divored, so be it.

STFU jethro. No one gives a fuck about your ancient population control scheme. Religion is stupid and backwards and it's obsolescence is mankind's benefit.

You know that children raised by their biological mother and father achieve better in most available metrics than those who aren't, right? It's been done in most civilizations (Abrahamic and not) for millennia. You don't just change thousands of years of sociobiological evolution without butterflying consequences.

How old are you? You remind me of myself at around 17-20.

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Its easy if you're not a lust addicted degenerate. We live in a time when sexual excess has been normalized. Most people live in a constant sexual haze and cannot imagine being free from lust.

There’s no point to marriage because it doesn’t lock in your family that you invested in. Woman will get bored, take your kids, run off with chad and have you pay for it.
Marriage used to be an actual solid and secure investment for men.
No longer the case. Our government is nothing like it was. Family unit used to be what the state was invested in. Now it’s invested in faggots getting married and single motherhood.

My fucking god I just realized that I’m in the military and if I’m deployed this is what I’m risking my life for.

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What's the problem with that?

Men banging loose women is also a problem. When 6 women are sharing one chad at least 5 of these women are WAY the fuck out of chads league. Thus decreasing the available viable options for beta males big time.
This is why strong father figures were important and a culture that allowed fathers to kill a man who slept with his daughter and decreased her value so that chad would think twice before he tried to go out and transform women into whores.

children from single parent households are far more likely to end up poor or involved with criminal activity, generally speaking it is not beneficial to the individual if the society they inhabit is composed of impoverished criminals. also if you intend to start a family at some point it makes sense to avoid women with high numbers of sexual partners as to ensure the success of your offspring.

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Is the same true for men? I haven't really seen any studies and don't know if any exist in the first place.

>not posting the 2nd image

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See

why do I have this feeling youre just incels making shit up because you get rejected by Christian girls?
The Christian girl I met in highschool had never even kissed a guy before I met her, and now 3 years later we have both agreed to wait with sex until marriage

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Dunno. i only slept with 4 eople! the only thing that would bother me in a relationship is knowing she fucked around more by the time she came to me!! Would not consider marriage anyhow.

But i did read somewhere that men react different to sex/lust then women and could handle it better! Perhaps another user can provide a good link.

I'm more agnostic than anything but I follow a lot of practices religions espouse. Not having sex before marriage was one of these. My wife is quite religious and felt the same. We were both virgins when married.

I think it was important to realize we loved each other and got along well without having our vision clouded by sex. When sex is essentially a relationship starter or foundation, I feel it's easier for people to get bored with each other or discover later that though their spouse fucks well they're deficient in a lot of other areas. Sure, it's not necessarily the case with everyone, but I've observed it to be the case more often than not.