Was Christianity a Jewish trick against Pagan Rome?

Was Christianity a Jewish trick against Pagan Rome?

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>Pagan Rome
Just Rome. Pagan means Goyim and Goyim means non-jewish human cattle.

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No. The western empire collapsed because of how much things shifted to the east. The west was, in comparison, highly rural. It was politics and economics that made the west unable to resist migrating and invading barbarians. The east, in contrast, was still extremely Christian, and was very much a bastion of civilization in Europe after the fall of the western empire.

>Pagan means Goyim
Fuck off, retard.

The idea of a 'Chosen People' was abolished by Jesus and turn the other cheek doesn't mean what you think it does. So no, it wasn't created to destroy Rome and that meme is inaccurate.

You

>turn the other cheek doesn't mean what you think it does
This.

>Rome collapsed because everyone just felt like moving east you guuuys

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Jesus taught that the goal of the Christian is to become as Jew-like as possible. Jews are the Christian's racial role models. Christians go to church in order to wish to be Jews, pretend to be Jews or learn how to be Jews. The Christian god's favorite race are the Jews. The invented story of fake Jesus starts when the Jewish race-god Yahweh chose a Jewess to breed with in order to create a Jewish messiah. The Jews watched Jesus come out of the hirsute Jewess that the Jew-god made pregnant. Jew-born Jesus studied Judaism and became a Jewish rabbi. He wore a yamaka. The Jewish messiah usually preached about Jews and the Jewish race-god. Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit comes from Jewishness and that the world would be saved if whites bred with Jews. Christians believe that hereditary Jewishness is the source of Jesus' magical powers. The inventors of Christianity gave Jesus preposterous magical powers as an enticement to cross-breed with Jews. The church was invented by Jews as an extension of the seed-maker of Abraham, so that whites and Jews could cross-breed. The Jew-king Jesus is portrayed as white, so as to deceive Europeans into believing that their king is a Jew and that cross-breeding with Jews will yield white children. Christians circumcise their children so they can breed with Jews. Churches give the money they collect to Jews to convert and inter-marry with whites. Christians name their children with Jewish names. The pope and cardinals wear Jewish yamakas. Every Christian ritual is indistinguishable from Judaism. This signals the magic pro-Semitic racist Asian Jew-god called Yahweh, so he'll let Christians into heaven for being Jew-like. At the entrance to heaven, where the god of the Jews and the king of the Jews live, is a Jewish clerk that examines how Jewish you are. The Christian is motivated by a set of perverted ideals based on hirsuteness and race. His only plan is to turn you into a Jew.

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If Christianity was the reason for the Empire's demise, why did Byzantine, which was Christian, stay a superpower for a thousand years?
>Nazi memeflag
How many white people died because of Hitler's war?

>The east, in contrast, was still extremely Christian
The west was more christianized than the east you spastic retard.

No, the destruction of the temple was several decades after Jesus' death.
But memeflags already know this

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>reposting this low information brainlet comic
First temple destroyed hundreds of years before Rome was established, second temple destroyed 70 AD decades after Christianity was established. Christianity was persecuted for centuries by degenerate pagan Rome, as Rome steadily degenerated and declined in all that time. Christianity didn't become the state religion until late, after centuries of degeneracy and degradation, and it was in response to the degenerate decline of the old pagan system. And if you weren't a pea brained retard, you'd know that Constantine RECLAIMED the old borders of the empire. The decaying Roman empire wasn't even an empire by that time, it was in the form of the Diocletian tetrarchy, just loosely interconnected lands with no real unity. And then after all the work that Constantine the Great does to unify the empire and make it strong once more, the pagan snowniggers come and chimp out and ruin everything.

Fuck you, fuck pagans, and fuck snowniggers.

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No, and youd have to be pretty fucking historicially illterate to even question that (but then again youre probably a kike). Rome was receding for centuries, and ironically Constantine (the Christian) was the one who restored its original borders and re-established a power structure capable of defending itself in Eastern Rome again

They actually focused more on being traditionally roman than they did on being good goy christcucks. The west was far more christian than the east, christianity started to spread from Rome retard.

Yes. The empire split in two because of religious schisms in the early church. youtube.com/watch?v=6d2lOQpuqd4

If Byzantines are attacked
>they were christcucks, That’s why ottomans conquered them
If Byzantines are supported
>they wuz Roman pagans

>why did Byzantine, which was Christian, stay a superpower for a thousand years?
It didn't. It was the plaything of arabs from day 1.

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Obviously.

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Death to international jewry

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Shill thread

no. Christianity was (and still is) the only hope of escape from the clownworld that era of romans were living thru.

That pic is fucking gold

Based. it's the same with the US. We're so similar to Rome if you know your history. We're going to fall soon enough too.

Yes it was look at the scholars who translated the bible, and their riches after the fact they translated a manipulated book I mean bible

considering rome was basically a slave empire i dont think many people had much of a vested interest in maintaining its existence

Judeo-Christian is a modern thing and pure kikeish trickery. For most of history it's been simply Christian, and jews of course were damned.

>cuck goddess statue
Kek

sure thing buddy

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Uneducated pleb here. Who is that guy?

false goyim means souless non jews it is a racial belief of the talmudics reformed judiasm a rothschild cult to procure new blood the talmud and kabbalah come its full fruition after Christ and only the bablyonian infiltration and hijacking by the eternal life denying Saduccees and their agents in the Pharisees had started developing the imaganary "oral tradition"

Also the jewish spent most of their time 33-100 AD murdering every Christian they could get their hands on nice insane inversion of the facts heathen fuck mouth autist.

Fact the torah branch of true judaism became Chrisianity that light unto the Gentiles Isaiah spoke of now thanks to the schism, deformations, apostasy after the 100 year mark of the gates of hell being chained up then released the jews have enter back into the void on the war path.

Jews had close relationships with pagan Rome and their murderous king and his family Herod were allies of Rome, the corrupt jewish leadership that begat the talmudic satanic teaching and cursed itself as the Satanic race thanks to the murder of God...was in its beginning state at this time and yet to have even developed the phrase goyim done by Ben Yohai and etc.

The Babylonian Talmud was complete 500 AD in Babylon....pro pedophilia, incest, child murder, world domination, and goy culling all included birthed out of "Gnostic" satanic teachers of "kabbalah" the older doctrine of satanism that hijacked religions and had a multiplicity of demons they called "gods"

Jews believe now they are "Gods"

These teachings which some were around at the time of Christ he called out and condemned saying to the rebbes "you have inverted the laws of Moses" Laws of God vs Laws of men...exposing their pilpul bs.

Learn to Read.

>memeflag posts hamfisted memeflag take

Fact it was Christianity that created, preserved , and expounded the white race to all its glory minus the brutality and bloodlust genocidal ways of the heathen child fucking pagans....its decay is the reason Europe has decayed....and its brutal executions and elimination at the hands of the Jews in Spain, England, France, Russia is why the jews have taken over by any trick or means necessary

Cromwell invaded and slaughtered burned Ireland to the ground and enslaved hundreds of thousands for his jews which really he was one of their front man their con guy serving them. etc. etc.

Its gone Jim why are you faggot kike loving "pagan" faggots and perverts who jump when Aquino tells you too so pissy?

I'm talking about the Eastern Roman Empire. The Byzantines.

Except they didn't. Paul's stance of "non-jews who convert to Christianity don't have to do Jew stuff" won the argument.

He knows, he’s just we wuzing

I know, but you're acting like their christianity is what preserved them. Why didn't it preserve the west, which was even more christianized than the east?

You tell me, rabbi

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This. Peter literally had a vision from God telling him that Paul was right

>A few centuries
Try more than a millennium. The Roman Empire ceased existing in 1453. One could even make a shoddy argument that it didn't end until 1812 or 1917. One could make an even shoddier argument that it still exists, but either way, Rome was literally Christian longer than it was pagan.

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No .

Just because Jesus was a Jew doesn't mean anything. He was the end of Judaism. Jews hate Jesus

No it doesn't. "Pagan" comes from the Latin word for peasants, farmers, villagers, that type of stuff. The word came about as a derogatory term after the adoption of Christianity by the Roman Empire. The people living in the cities were converted quickly whereas many of the people in the outlying countryside took a while to come around. "Pagan" was just the equivalent of calling someone a yokel or hillbilly, it was just saying they were ignorant and uncultured.

Yes.

The jew Sha'ûl of Tarsi, Propagandist of the Goyim
also known by his Europeanized name and title;
Paul of Tarsus, Apostle of the Gentiles. Creator of the church and writer of most of the bible.

He's the kike who had the bright idea of modifying christendom a bit, instead of preaching to the jews he began preaching cuckstianity to the Roman, Greeks and Europeans to be able to lord over them.

> archive.org/details/RomeContraJudaea

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>it was just saying they were ignorant and uncultured.
Sounds like the same attitude that progressive liberal trash have towards rural folk today.

>its decay is the reason Europe has decayed
Literally this. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both observed that this would happen. The Enlightenment sprouted out of parts of Christianity, including it's idealization of truth. That idealization latter turned against Christianity because elements of the enlightenment weren't properly formulated, but this resulted in the Enlightenment undermining itself. Nietzsche's idea of the Uberman was his solution to the problem. It failed, because people can't just make up their own values.

I fucking knew you’d say this, implying that the upper class nearly 2000 years ago is similar to that of now, because you cant or won’t think beyond your modern life. Can you even call yourself a pagan if you clearly don’t give two fucks about the social situation of those people?

Yeah pretty much I guess. Metropolitan populations always consider themselves more advanced than rural folk. Cities are (theoretically at least) the centers of culture, commerce, and technology, so it's been pretty common throughout all of history and societies for city-dwellers to look down upon agrarian people.

It also took much longer than most people think for these rural areas to be converted. Most people imagine that all of, for example, Greece was converted to Christianity within a hundred years or so. In reality, in rural parts of the Peloponnese, there were still practicing Hellenic pagans well into the Middle Ages.

>you're acting like their christianity is what preserved them.
No, I'm not. I'm saying it didn't cause them to collapse, and therefor didn't cause the Western Empire to collapse either.

It does, but that's the word we have.

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>Jewish trick
>Jews go to hell according to Christianity. All of the antisemitism in history was justified via Christianity.
Pick one.

>Fact it was Christianity that created, preserved , and expounded the white race to all its glory minus the brutality and bloodlust genocidal ways of the heathen child fucking pagans....its decay is the reason Europe has decayed....and its brutal executions and elimination at the hands of the Jews in Spain, England, France, Russia is why the jews have taken over by any trick or means necessary

Fact: you're a lying boomer who's historically illiterate and mentally not-all-there.

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>neo-pagans
WE WUZ KANGZ!!
>christians
don't be evil, believe and you will be saved

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>wikipedia
Why don't you just post a Jewish edited, politically correct, leftist website while you're at it?

Top kek I hope you're not seriously referring to Nietzsche as someone who would support the continued existence of christianity

>Christianity has done its utmost to close the circle and declared even doubt to be sin. One is supposed to be cast into belief without reason, by a miracle, and from then on to swim in it as in the brightest and least ambiguous of elements: even a glance towards land, even the thought that one perhaps exists for something else as well as swimming, even the slightest impulse of our amphibious nature- is sin! And notice that all this means that the foundation of belief and all reflection on its origin is likewise excluded as sinful. What is wanted are blindness and intoxication and an eternal song over the waves in which reason has drowned.

Are you illiterate? He said absolutely nothing like that. You’re just looking for an excuse to copy+paste npc arguments where they don’t belong

Yes

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Comes from. Not means. ‘Pagan’ is indeed a word that comes from the Latin pagani which means villager. It first saw widespread usage by the christcucks around 1700 years ago. In the dirty, corrupt, decadent, cosmopolitan and mongrelised cities of the now decadent Roman empire, the population was essentially cuckstian, but in the countryside the peasants, who keep their heritage and tradition pure, are ‘pagans’. It is in the countryside, oblivious to multiculturalism, where the ancestral memory is preserved. (Both christkikes and communists did their best to end the way of life of the landowner, the farmer and the peasant.)

Despite the origins, meaning of 'pagan' has always been consistently used as a replacement for the term "goyim". The only difference is that goyim also includes christcucks, while pagan is a term the christcucks can use. The meaning: non-jew, non-christcuck human cattle. That is what pagan and heathen means. That is how it is used. And that is what you call racial brothers, other (non-christcuck) Europeans when you call them 'pagan'; non-jew human cattle.

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nice try memeflag

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Nice refutation. You are claiming the northern crusades, the siege of baghdad and the sack of constantinople didn't happen because wikipedia exists? Does it worry you NPChristcucks at all that you are never able to refute anything? All you can do is
>swap topic
>insult
>spam several pages of scribbles from your holy book
That's all you do. You're only half human, if that. Not capable of rational thought or dealing with new information.

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These "Christianity is a jewish trick" threads are one of the more clever kike tactics. Read the new testament if you unironically believe this. See what Jesus actually says about jews (known as the Pharisees and Sadducees)

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He said this.

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your opinion matters once you dont hide your flag

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Posting from phone. That's not what I said you disingenuous shit.

>sack of Constantinople was supported by the church

Yes.

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Rome was already in decline for a hundred years at that point

That's not even that big a loss in territory.

Why the fuck do you retards keep acting like this is some kind of reveal? Religious truth is more important than your autistic obsession with race.

read this and decide

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Also you need a better meme than that one, here you go. Your welcome

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no, christianity is fundamentally and diametrically opposed to judaism, and its the only way to resist the judaic world order that is currently exterminating all whites on earth

>no, christianity is fundamentally and diametrically opposed to judaism,
good goy

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>Religious truth is more important than your autistic obsession with race
Fuck me, man. I always knew you Christians hated the security of White Aryans.

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>calling him a retard for pointing out the origin of the latinised term pagan.
stop projecting your own retardation.
fucking ignoramus.

Christianity is proto comunism.

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>no, christianity is fundamentally and diametrically opposed to judaism,
He doesnt even know he is a golem

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true

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oh look another thread filled with shills spreading anti-Christian propaganda

jesus cursed the jews until they accept him as their savior and live decent lives, called judaism evil, called the jews liars and snakes, and even beat the shit out of many of them. nothing you say will change the basic facts of the new testament, retard

>Religious truth is more important than your autistic obsession with race.
Perhaps. But religious truths that go against empirical reality such as race, culture and tribe should be discarded.

You only believe religious truths to be necessarily contradictory to race because Christian "truths" are.

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>Christianity wipes out any serious core of folk european tradition, syncretising whats left into christianity, executing pagans who refuse to convert, aggresively expanding the religion through europe
>Oy vey let the jews live around us, they are people of the book.
Christians are hypocrites.

no shit the pope says that. the catholic church has been a talmudic judaic institution for centuries. they are a bunch of kid fucking occult jews. catholicism isn't christianity, so not sure why you are posting about it.

>But there isn't a christian in every jew
how the fuck has this pope avoided the stake for heresy?

>Jewish trick
No just a foriegn religion that took hold in Europe because of political ambitions. I have recently started following European polytheism and I think the thought of christianity just being false and a foriegn religion like Islam has pushed me away. Now I must experiment with the beliefs of my ancestors and see if they answer back.

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christianity didn't whipe out shit in europe, and even merged many pagan traditions into the religion as they spread it throughout europe. europe wasn't 'forcibly' converted to christianity under threat of violence or execution, the people of europe willingly switched over to christianity because the pagan religions and pagan leadership couldn't provide for the people what christianity could provide.

perfect example: the inquisition in spain actually had more lenient and forgiving courts than the state did.

your ancestors converted to christianity for a reason.

>catholicism isn't christianity
Sure it isn't, tell me again how your German mormanism is more legitimate than the original church.

Again, how the fuck are you this retarded, that you're only just now understanding this as something confirmed rather than a suspicion or something?

>pointing out the origin of the latinised term pagan
That's literally not the origin.

You can't empirically prove a value judgement, retard, only a qualitative difference.

Far as I'm aware there's no actual method for impeaching the Pope, or anything like that. We just wait it out, like we've done with other bad Popes.

Yes and after I researched those reasons it seems far less of a spiritual conversion and more of a practical one.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of a different inquisition. The Spanish inquisition WAS run by the state, and was pretty much a front for the crown to take people's shit, which is why the Pope at the time denounced it.

No the split happened to make administration of the empire easier. The religious schism played little role at the time.

Imagine being a stronk Pagan God who gets rekt by carpenter. Top lel

>Again, how the fuck are you this retarded, that you're only just now understanding this as something confirmed rather than a suspicion or something
No, you're saying that you shouldn't care about your race you fuckin' Shylock.

>europe wasn't 'forcibly' converted to christianity under threat of violence or execution,
The Saxons disagree.
> the people of europe willingly switched over to christianity because the pagan religions and pagan leadership couldn't provide for the people what christianity could provide.
Yeah, a power structure, technology, trade relationships, etc.

The Church was the EU of it's time.
>christianity didn't whipe out shit in europe, and even merged many pagan traditions into the religion as they spread it throughout europe.
Yes.

They also merged here African vodoo mysticism and Andean mauntain worship.
Look, we are in the same page here; Christianity in European has a distinct European kin soul stamped to it, as Bowden said; I look at christianity and I see paganaism staring at me.


The point I and other anons argue in favour of is not that christianity isn't or hasnt preserved European soul, but that the inherent function of the religion and the power heirarchy it represents is a system that ultimately ignores differences in the humans in favour of perpetual integration with additions of distinct peoples of different ethnicities, like what the EU is doing today.

The religion serves itself, it was always in conflict with European Kingdoms as Marsilio de Padua states.

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>You can't empirically prove a value judgement, retard, only a qualitative difference.
oh no it's retarded ;^(

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