anybody else turning into a fascist over the abortion debate?
I've always tried to believe that my political opponents had good intentions. Back when I was younger the abortion debate was whether or not a fetus should be considered a living human during the first trimester. I always believed that it objectively was, but I could understand how a person wouldn't.
Cut to 2019 and the god damned fucking senate voted NO on the born alive bill after states like virginia allowed for POST BIRTH ABORTIONS. Like, the entire democratic party is behind born child murder if the mother doesn't want the baby. What the fuck? This makes me feel like the abortion argument the entire time was done in bad faith, and that they all know deep down a fetus is a human baby but want to kill it anyway. How the fuck do you fight subversive evil like this without outright violence? How do you fight against a population of 1/4 women who have had abortions? They're all murderers of babies, and they all knew that they were ending a human life.
I can't stop obsessing over how cruel and despicable these people are who support it. Can you even think of a punishment that matches the crime of infanticide for the reason of convenience? Any Doctor who would agree to killing a baby after it was born, like the "Born Alive" bill would have prevented, should be "made comfortable" and starved to death in a windowless room while being psychologically tortured by the sound of a thousand crying babies. Every Doctor sentenced this will be broadcast on C-Span. Every mother who agrees to kill her child for conveniences sake during birth or after birth should be refused medication or health services of any kind, and left to die on the birthing table. Even then, even if this happened to every "mother" and doctor who conspired to murder a baby because it was unwanted, this would still not match the cruelty and evil of killing a human child. I literally think this should happen. I never would have thought this befor
Abortion is murder and I was always eye for an eye proponent
Brayden Lopez
pro-abortion posts get like 3 likes on social media no one cares
Henry Barnes
A pregnant woman has bodily autonomy, so does the fetus inside. How we resolve this question is very important to our future.
Julian Jenkins
fuck off.
Noah Rivera
Been a 'fascist' for a long time now. When I realized that there is nothing morally wrong about having a good, healthy and strong nation state, and when I also realized that these lefties and other such enemies are supporting things that are not only insane, they are completely against the interests of your people and will eventually lead to collapse and chaos and the death of your own nation and culture, and that they do all this knowingly and on purpose, that's when it happened.
Ryder White
No, with a baby inside you don't have bodily autonomy. You had autonomy when that baby was being put into you. You created the life but you do not have the right to destroy that life. It's the foundational principle of western civilization.
>lefties and other such enemies are supporting things that are not only insane, they are completely against the interests of your people >they do all this knowingly and on purpose it's that second part that I'm feeling right now. It's such a fucking shock. They want literally no borders, they literally want white people to go extinct, and they literally think a woman should be able to kill her baby if she decides she doesn't want it. How fucked up can this be? I don't want to believe this is the truth.
swap pro-life and pro-choice. There is no dumber, stupider argument on either side than "it's the woman's body." It's literally not her body, it's someone else's body.
The child also has its bodily autonomy. It's an open question. Like I said, how we solve this question is gonna dictate the future of our republic.
Chase Bell
I already posted the solution in the last paragraph of the OP
Jose Long
abortion shouldn't be opposed completely, especially when it comes to getting rid of downies and dysgenic babies and non white babies and as a general measure of population control
however, the thing that you can take away from the recent reactions is
women are simply demons and need to be thoroughly policed and treated like children
Maybe some mothers take the choice to kill their children, we don't like those mothers so much, we respect them a lot less than the mothers that care for their children.
Noah Davis
>they all know deep down a fetus is a human baby but want to kill it anyway this
but why should I care? and why do you think you should be able to impose your fucked up morality on me?
Landon Robinson
> why do you think you should be able to impose your fucked up morality on me? It's my right, and I'm doing it right now. Irresponsible mothers are very sad people, they need help and guidance.
That’s because everybody that disagrees with it is a whore or leftist. Literally conservatives got full house in dc out of nowhere like a fucking miracle and they still couldn’t establish that anti abortion bill.
Camden Walker
wait, we might recklessly damage the environment beyond repair for our own self interests. but you have to have kids you don't want because I'm more moral ?
Like I said, we don't like or respect mothers who kill their children, it's a pretty simple fact. >recklessly damage the environment beyond repair for our own self interests That sounds like the kinda lie that a child murderer might tell to excuse the child murdering. I don't believe you.
Eli Long
They'll ignore this even though it's been true forever. Abortion is just self imposed eugenics.
Zachary Lopez
Let the women decide dude. The fetus cannot survive outside the womb before 24 weeks, and that should be the cutoff theoretically for abortion. But let the women decide. Men step aside, women problems are just not worth our time
Ryan Ward
Women currently decide, then are wholly ostracized for killing their children. Sad!
Austin Hughes
you'll let everyone elses rights slip away and there'll be nobody left when the come for yours
Hunter Ward
ya, ive basicly have been arguing non stop with everyone i know (some even have political science degrees) about it and no matter how many times a destroy their argument they wont budge, cant even get them them to say abortion till birth is bad.
Kayden Jackson
Besides that, if abortion is justified because the baby is not entitled to his mother's body, why doesn't that also apply to the time after the baby exits the birth canal? A baby is more demanding of a woman's body, time, energy, and money than a fetus is. Should we do away with child neglect laws because they control a woman's body too?
Jordan Cooper
You don't read good, bodily autonomy is important for mother and child. We don't like mothers who disrespect that.
Nicholas Lopez
>1/4th of women
That's a feminist 'fact', user. They are saying 1 abortion = 1 unique woman.
This is utter horseshit. The number is much smaller than 25%, due to the number of serial murderers who use abortion clinics to reach their victims.
Other than that, all I can say is this; They have been arguing in bad faith this whole time. Not all of them, but the leadership has been 100% baby murder this entire time.
>You created the life but you do not have the right to destroy that life. It's the foundational principle of western civilization.
It's more than that; it's the principal of Universal Good and Evil. You can create life, but it owes you nothing, and is free to grow how it chooses; you are good. You can create life, and it owes you everything, and it is your slave forever; you are evil.
This is the difference between the parental archetypes of God and the Devil.
>The God archetype is a father who nurtures and challenges his children at great personal expense. He is there when they are young and useless, investing in them everything that makes him special and strong. When they are old enough to be useful, they look at him and ask 'What do you want from me?' and he tells them 'I want you to be free, you owe me nothing. This archetype is always willing to adopt a lost and fatherless child, and take them in as his own.
>The Devil archetype is the absent father. His many, many children grow and die, abandoned in the world. When they are young and useless, they are left to rot and grow wild, only the lucky survive. When they are old enough to go out on their own, they seek out their father. When they find him, he smiles and says 'You have found me. Now your work is to begin; I have given you life, I am the very reason for your being. You owe me a debt which can never be paid, you are my slave forever.'
These people, with their broken homes. . . it's no wonder they turn to satanism and child sacrifice. Children without fathers are archetypically the children of the devil.
YOU CHOSE TO BECOME PREGNANT BY HAVING SEX YOU STUPID FUCK. YOU GET PREGNANT BY HAVING SEX. BY CHOOSING TO HAVE SEX, YOU HAVE CONSENTED TO BECOMING PREGNANT.
THIS IS SIMPLE, FIRST GRADE LEVEL LOGIC. PREGNANCY DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN. YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING APPLE TREE THAT JUST HAPPENS TO GROW FRUIT EVERY YEAR. YOU ARE A MAMMAL, AND YOU MUST HAVE SEX TO BECOME PREGNANT.
SEX IS NOT AN INEVITABLE BODILY FUNCTION, AND NEITHER IS PREGNANCY! STOP BEING SUCH AN USELESS BRAINDEAD WHORE AND SHUT YOUR FUCKING LEGS. DON'T GIVE YOUR FUCKING GRAVEYARD OF A VAGINA TO EVERY MAN WHO MAKES IT TINGLE.
Those are men's children, growing inside of a woman.
The fact that supposedly intelligent civilizations have been tricked into thinking that babies are the sole property of women is fucking infuriating.
Robert Peterson
My body my choice! >body chooses to get pregnant Uuuhhhhhhh nvm
Leo Brooks
/bread
Henry Mitchell
The solution is simple. a referendum.
A) fetus is not a person. Either parent can opt to kill it.
B) Fetus is a person. Neither parent can opt to kill it.
Samuel Morris
Have sex
Justin Cooper
They justify their stupidity by calling a fetus a parasite...
Connor Butler
Not sure if true or not but if it was, what relevance does this have with the abortion debate? If a guy proposes a law against murder but turns out to be a serial killer, does that mean that refraining from killing people is an impossible and stupid moral standard to live up to, or that mankind is a weak and sinful species that fails to live up to its convictions?
Kayden Adams
21 weeks was the earliest premature baby to survive you shitlord
No I actually have brain cells and wants more niggers aborting their babies. Please God let every nappy headed nigger woman abort every baby before it poisons this Earth even more!
Robert Lewis
a bit over the top but i agree
John Ward
the hypocrisy probably bothers people more than the law. and they do this all the time.
*moves to a different state* Your move, Republicucks
Ayden Barnes
except 87% of people are against 3rd term abortion. most people just dont know what roe v wade is, same as they can't name their own senators or a supreme court justice
Nathaniel Miller
Dems took the Hitler pill > Kill Undesirables > Kill minorities at disproportionate rate > Whites killed are of low socioeconomic standing > Kill the retarded and defective > Hitler only managed to kill muh 6 million > Abortion has killed over 57 million
Why do you care if libtards murder their own in cold blood? Literally: don't like it, don't do it. I couldn't care less if a mudslime kid died. More often than not, they're going to grow up and be just like their parents.
Evan Phillips
This
Evan Peterson
probably no one in their right mind is pro abortion. so is no moral high ground here. but I think most people don't want to try to manage other peoples lives. and they don't want the state doing it either
Lincoln Carter
>do not have the right create artificial wombs, move the egg there, problem solved >muh I don't want 1 million people of color born and raised by the system every year
Isaiah Long
I was a facist before it was cool...
Logan Scott
You're starting to get it. Now add in bodily autonomy for the child.
Ethan Smith
have you tried to pay them with years of yang bux after birth >capitalism works, but we won't use it here because reasons
Ryder Williams
>abortion is eugenics
Yes, that is literally what it is, the cunt who started planned parenthood explicitly did it in the name eugenics and the left have said "no, she just rode that wave to get the funding for it". She literally wanted poor people to be able to kill their offspring to clean up the gene pool by having the less desirable off themselves.
Adam Stewart
The state has a place to protect the right of all humans to live. If you want to manage your life by killing your children, the state should intervene and prevent that action/punish you for performing it.
Jose Parker
THIS
Eli Rivera
all the aborted fetuses should be sent to this guy so he can protect them
James Russell
weak. so you've decided the fetus is more important than the mother? get the fetuses to vote for your law
Luis Davis
Aborted fetuses are actually worth a lot of money and fuel a vigorous secondary market for human tissues, so I'd make a tidy profit, but I'd rather not so, can you just stop murdering children?
Ethan Campbell
>mother says i dont want it >guy comes in with a gun you have to >mother says i wont eat >forcefeeds the mother >mother is kept in a cage for 9 month >gives it up for adoption >guy with gun gives it to two unfit foster parents who just want the monies and fuck the kid up to become a serial rapist >PROBLEM SOLVED
the biggest problem the right has is their credibility on the issue. we know they no longer give a shit once the kid is born. they only care when it's in someone elses womb where it doesn't cost anything and they aren't required to do anything.
Jonathan White
"pro-life" assholes don't give a shit about the baby after it is born. I read it here daily. you would happily let a baby starve to death rather than welfare. you don't want to support a baby's health care, or education.the only exception is when the child is old enough to die for Israel. you don't give a shit about life. you are liars.
Ryan Torres
it easy to be pro life then
Landon Ortiz
why do we care about libtards not reproducing? do we want MORE libtards to deal with in the future?
also what would you do with a baby with birth defects?
Parker Jones
The abortion industry is a human sacrifice ritual on a massive scale, the sheer amount of negative energy generated from it is mindboggling.
My view on abortion is that it depends what race the baby is.
Sebastian Scott
Every time the fucking eyes
Isaac Howard
I genuinely don't understand how most pro-choice don't see how vapid their arguments are. If you're pro-choice and you believe "clump of cells," "my body my choice," "masturbation is genocide," or "no uterus no opinion" have a single ounce of weight, then you're an idiot.
Cooper Powell
>women would rather kill themselves than have a child
Kayden Evans
>autonomy Autonomy is a degenerate concept.
Jack Hernandez
>More often than not, they're going to grow up and be just like their parents. this
Adrian White
But if we vote wrong we will vote again to we get it right
That's why nobody likes fascists. It's none of your fucking business.
Evan Howard
>clump of cells so then take it out by any scientific method 8 weeks in and move it elsewhere >nobody is stopping you to suggest a better solution, eg. artifical wombs
Christopher Stewart
they're pro life but if the kid they stick someone with for 20 years breaks into the garage they may have to shoot it
Brody Richardson
This is another one of those stupid arguments. It's probably the worst because it's so popular right now. It's complete nonstarter because conservatives statistically give more to charity but even if we assume that's not the case and conservatives truly don't care after the unborn are born, so what? That's not an argument against the pro-life position. The unborn is still a human and it's still wrong to murder them. I can be against murdering you without having to pay your rent, that wouldn't make me a hypocrite.
