Fashwave needs to die

We are all waiting for you to come up with something better

I’m not being a Euroboo for some faux intellectual purpose, but these societies have remained more or less continuous for multiple thousands of years, being illiberal and de-facto ethno-States with an immediately coherent notion of what and who they are, and conversely what and who they are not. Who’s in, who’s out.

Yes, agreed.

Something elegant, modern, slightly authoritarian. minimalist. Will post examples

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Compare that to the deliberately vague language of the founding of the United States, by Deistic Liberal Freemasons, or before its split with the Crown, as a contractual, sort of “intentional community” of Anglo-Saxon Protestants that wanted economic opportunity. Poor soil on which to build your castle.

Fashwave, and vaporwave in general is appealing because it's a uniting aspect of our more recent shared heritage. I don't see it as nihilistic, but sehnsucht or wabi sabi. It's analog imperfections provoke a sense of wonder and authenticity. It's our modern day revival of the Romantic movement.

Only a minute segment of the New World population are actually going to read history and culture in any serious capacity. Literally the only way to acquaint the deracinated masses with these ideas is through memes and edgy podcasts.

you sure we wanna bring these people in? they ain't gonna stay once the hype wears off.
fuck off, zoomer.
you need to get out more
>CFR
lol
this guy actually gets it.

i recommend a 30's/40's aesthetic that isn't too in-your-face. utilitarian motifs without the pretense of fashion or being deliberately retro

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this, and atop of that.. the hard left has appropriated it.

>being influenced by fashion in any way

>We are all waiting for you to come up with something better
no need to "come up" with anything new or improved, user. No need to redesign the spoon. Look here, here is all you need:

faux nostalgia is bang on, I think that the fashwave photoshops are better than the music. The music is sort of vaguely disconnected from globohomo but that's it.

Fuck off back to plebbit kike.
What did (((conservatives))) conserved exactly?

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sensucht, mono no aware and saudade are the last shit we need to pump into the ethno-conservative movement.. it is stifling, softly and sweetfully blackpilling young people.
and ultimately is proposes a false narrative, that the 80's is something to long for.. they were not, I know, I was there.

its fucking cringey. ive been saying that the whole time.

good ideas, here.

>t.kike

Go fuck yourself nigger.

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thanks bude, but you might wanna flip that flag.

>Look here, here is all you need:
A picture of some thot? That'd not gonna convince anyone.

>What did (((conservatives))) conserved exactly?
Notre Dame, until your imported polish and morrocan cheap workers tourched it.

go surrender somewhere else, froggy.

Very few of these people are “conservatives”. They just can’t define themselves as anything else, for both being able to articulate not being conservative, while not being Liberal or communist.

The Overton Window is very very small in our world. Most people’s minds are still essentially beholden to a regressive liberalism. Shit’s fucked.

flashwave is gay because its aesthetic is the only substance it has. aesthetics are like a powerful spice that you want to use sparingly.

also anything 50's-present is jewed and probably not a genuine product of white american culture.

>A picture of some thot?
that's a white, European women holding her white, European child.
>thot
your mind has been polluted and corrupted, you need to get off the internet, exercise and straighten your shit out before you go full black pill and start sucking dick and taking oestrogen.

>n-n-no pls don't take my edgy funny meme pictures!
gtfo zoomer faggots you're a travesty to all nationalist traditionalist principels.

Alright, but if you're not gonna actually make anything, at least explain your vision more broadly than a contextless image of some cunt with a kid.

As I said, that by itself won't convince anyone.

truth and dåbs of truth

you're a d&c kike shill, and I spit on you.

It might, the only problem is that its based n vanity rather than substance. The world already knows whites worship their women, its what got us into this mess in the first place

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>d&c
You're the one punching right for no good reason except "muh faux nostalgia"

you are an estrogen filled goyboy, and if you assume this isn't an argument at least you'd be correct for once in your life because I'm telling you that you're a worthless drain on society, kill yourself stupid.

photo is so kino I came a little

It catches the mood of the coming age.
The art of the Apocalypse.

I'd suggest skipping that phase of history.
To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour. Repent. Turn away from your sin and toward Jesus.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for your sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.

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Stop being an emotional faggot and just explain your vision.

Fashwave is garbage and I have been saying this for years now. You're just re-coloring and distorting images with neon and filters. The music is trash too, mostly. It's just easy to do.

If anything it shows how traditionalism on the alt right is just a meme and everyone is actually a degenerate addicted to the "thrill" of it. The music is fast and focused on intensity rather than sounding pleasing.

Don't fucking butt in, shit head

it's a little too rosie-the-riveter for the theme i have in mind but it's close enough

>The music is fast and focused on intensity rather than sounding pleasing.
The words of a weak man
youtube.com/watch?v=lTIH11Yk7k4

sage this thread when you mke fun of this kike

STFU faggot kike I see you jidf

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Oh so this thread is theatrical and only meant for entertainment. Do you guys ever take breaks?

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It’s far easier to create a simple common narrative. Distill what’s said on here. Some incels wanna burqa chicks (nah), some idiots want to gas the Juice (tempting) and some Pagans want to kill all Christians (wut). Realistically none of these things will bring about the ethnostate without a Third World War because the ethnostate requires a common ground. It’s far easier to redpill and adopt a repatriation/deportation policy and talking point to shift the window. Boomers are prime on this kinda stuff; a 10 minute talk about why I had to send my kid to private school and they were eating out of my hand. Converting millennials is harder, but it can be done. Rhetoric and intelligence is required; you can’t convert idiots just because they’re friends.

Sorry I don't like your shitty edm music with neon videos of Hitler over it.

>getting this mad
you really like those pretty, purple pictures, eh?
fucking faggot.

It's not the 80's themselves that matters, but the ideal of the 80's. When you think about a time when you looked at a sunset years ago, you don't think about how earlier that day you stubbed your toe. WW2 posters and old marching music don't necessarily hold the same meaning to us as the things that served as actual background noise in our lives. Hollywood tries to capitalize on nostalgia by exploiting old things with inferior, soulless remakes. That's what's nihilistic, misanthropic, and navel gazing. Fashwave and vaporwave focus on the potent essence of nostalgia to invoke awe. That there's a mystery and soul to these things that defy explanation. That these ideals represent something bigger than ourselves.

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These are good.

Basically this. Lots of young men find these ideas viscerally appealing, you just have to present them in the proper way.

I think edgy podcasts are better for millennials. A group of guys are just making fun of goody news articles and then before you know what happened they’re acquainting the audience with Ferdinand Celine or Pentii Linkola.

Show people what they are missing out on. Show people WHY they are unhappy and what HAPPY looks like.

Refine this more and make others like it.

But no the boomers are actually rising up. Christchurch was a great bellwether for this. They had zero sympathy

I mean I like the concept in theory and I like the simplicity of messaging, but we realistically need a talented graphic designer. Part of the issue with getting one is that all art is like a fingerprint — think how easy it is for us to read a regular shitposter and accurately call meme flag. Good graphic designers need to be able to still work for a living and, lets be real, none of us can get caught exposing power levels yet,

Don’t know how to solve the problem but want to help.

>but the ideal of the 80'
you know what we idealized in the 80's? The 50's. Yes, exactly.. Back To The Future and all that shit, The Fonz, American Grafitti and what have you. You know where it got us? No-fucking-where.

the fascists idealized ancient Rome and Germania, the pagan North alongside Christ as a warrior saviour. That worked.

fuck the 80's, they were gay and hedonistic.
fuck the 50's, it was shallow consumerism and small town conservatism.

Learn graphic design. Learn multimedia. Learn Adobe After Effects.

The biggest issue with podcasts is identity and rhetoric. Any ethnonationalist should be breathing, eating and reading British media because all of their points are so well articulated.

We speak very well via memes but fail to publish actual literature.

I propose... Crusaderwave? Christwave? Something like that. Gregorian chants mixed with synth instrumentalism and classical baroque-style pieces? Yea... Christian rock music is still enduringly popular among a surprisingly large population. But what I'm thinking doesn't even have to be necessarily evangelical or worship music. Just crusading, heretic-burning music for the technologically advanced theocratic space empire of tomorrow. Ooh, let's bring back theramins.

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Agreed.

Also, I doubt anyone listens to this hipster stuff unless they're on LSD.

You are kidding , right? Pal c'mon
Kappa

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the hard left does, but then again.. that makes your point even clearer. We need to to end this shit.

this

no, no.. no synth, no "wave"shit.. it's modernism and we FIGHT THE MODERN WORLD.

Dixi.

I always thought it was pretty gay looking. That synth pop fashwave music is gay as fuck too. Sounds like something homos fuck to while doing drugs in the bathroom of a club.

My family has personally always been very redpilled on this sort of stuff, so can’t comment in particular. The one thing Spencer does flawlessly is outwardly presenting the visage of a clean cut Aryan American — someone you’d want to see your daughter date. That sort of image is invaluable when it comes to proselytization because no one expects the real standup Ivy League guy to have a radioactive power level.

I’m a high finance guy, man. Someone needs to know how to run the economy when the ethnostate cometh and we need to redistribute all of (((their))) wealth to Americans.

Idk that flag. Are you a Viking? Ok no synth or wave. But I'm not giving up on the theramin or heretic-burning space crusaders. I like your idea about Dixie. Maybe we can repurpose music from the Confederacy.

Then make something faggot, don't complain about the stuff you didn't even make. No one is stopping you from making some folks music if that's what your keen on. If it's good it will be enjoyed by people.

bump, fashwave was cool at the start but it started to get a little gay and really stale, still can find some good shit once in a while but its rare, we need to get good with our propaganda, we need something that conveys our message without being too edgy, something traditionalist, but still futuristic, the sig ideals shit is a pretty good example of what we nee going forward, ive seen some good things in here but we need better, bonus points for including good leaders of our movement

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I agree wholeheartedly. Ive known it was over since my normie programmer friend has been into it years before us. It was fun and theres always a place for it but your critique is accurate. Luckily there are many other styles of Art Memes floating around that serve our purpose better.

Homosexuals drive culture harder than blacks or juice these days. We’ll eventually need to rope them into the ethnostate but their culture needs to change to promote ours.
>in b4 “muh degeneracy”
Yeah no shit they’re miserable people, but half of the reason why they hate themselves is because of their own shitty culture. No one hates minorities more than white upper middle class gay men; not even Jow Forumstards. They realistically comprise 10% of the population and it’s never going away unless we can find what genetically causes it.

Reminder that what made Fashwave or retrowave good is that it's just a bunch of filters and screen tears. Don't overshoot on the ambition.
And some of them were genuinely good, like that Taylor Swift one. All you can really do with these kinds of edits is "subvert" the media that is given to you. Subvertion has its place - it's the first step of redpilling.

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Oh my bad Denmark. The white looked yellow for some reason.

i wouldn't mind going back to nihilistic black metal

Its already dead but I still like to listen to xurious every now and then

>I like your idea about Dixie. Maybe we can repurpose music from the Confederacy
Dixi, not Dixie. Dixi as in the qoute by Ceasar.

quick attempt I did

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>Fashwave is a thing

shiggy

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tell me how you can predict it's already dead. Is there some snobby art critique club I'm not aware of?

This. We are FIGHTING DEGENERACY literally this exact second. Show people what they have lost due to it.

no. All synthwave inspired music and art (like fashwave) are brutalist, modernist and thus void of tradition and we should shun it like the shit it is.

Tbh I still listen to it sometimes but mostly only when I'm driving. I started to whole mowing the yard, but got bored with it and switched to bluegrass. Can we do something with bluegrass? Can any Jow Forumstards pick a banjo or play a fiddle?

produce something better and change the trend. that’s how art works.

i like it, but its a little too.. normie for a lack of a better word, good i think it needs to be a little more thought provoking, but besides that i think its great

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Nice, I was thinking symbols should be avoided, and let them figure out that they're all happy white people.

The original is stronger. Not much has to be said for any red blooded Aryan to put themselves in the viewer’s shoes. Image original says “This could be your family” to me before any graphics.

Then again I dunno maybe I’ve swallowed more pills than a juice bulldyke has swallowed antidepressants. But to me watching a beautiful Aryan woman enjoying time with her child in nature is the best propaganda of all.

Based. I showed my wife and she agrees too. I wonder if there are any Jow Forumsfags in marketing on this board. It’d be sage if they post advice.

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Like this user?

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>But to me
But not to normies.
This whole thread is hurr why aren't we preaching to the choir". A woman rollicking through the fields with a kid doesn't say shit to a normie.
Normies want to follow what looks cool. Fashwave looks cool. Some cunt with a kid looks boring.

Oh, ok then.

Ya know... mixing Roman Imperial aesthetic with Southern music and culture with heavy emphasis on bluegrass and theramins could maybe work...

We see evidence of happier, whiter times primarily through the lens of old VHSs and films. We have plenty to work with.
Even sharing something somebody else made that you thought was moving can help. I don't have any artistic ability but i'm learning to make music. I'm not too good yet, but learning a way to express yourself is healthy in and of itself.
Genres are like tools. You use chisels to make sculptures. Whether that sculpture turns out good or not depends on your skill and ability to articulate deeper meaning through aesthetics. Sculpture might not be in everyone's taste, but everyone can be moved by a masterpiece. You're right that nothing was ever really ideal. Anything grounded in our common experience can be used to convey racially positive things in an appealing way.

With respect I think you’re missing the point. The artist that did this didn’t have to spell it out because it was plain to see in the picture. We need to create modern versions of that. This picture is close.

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