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Would Jow Forums support a NatSoc EU model?
Hudson Butler
Cameron Myers
>Lets get the jews to go National Socialist.
Fell off the lorry yesterday, brit?
Jaxon James
Not the current European Union or it's politics, or the people running it and its MEPs. Nothing related to the politics of the modern EU, just the model of European political unification through funding the ethnic groups in Europe rather than funding the national states and borders.
Levi Scott
That's actually what Sir Oswald Mosley tried to do with the National Party of Europe, a coalition of right wing parties in Europe that wanted to increase pan-European nationalism.
In theory a National Socialist European Superstate isn't a bad idea with the current state of Europe and the threats that exist against the white race.
The problem is that the centralisation of power can always be corrupted and controlled. That is in fact what happened to the EU itself, whether it was always planned or not.
If it were to happen it would be more beneficial to have it working as a trade and travel co-operation rather than a parliament with a leader. 740 Million people is a lot to govern, but not impossible.
John Adams
Where would western Russia fit into this? Would you really want to make them enemies of this superstate?
Ayden Gray
No thats horrible. The eu is the exact opposite of nationalism.
Sebastian Martin
Literally everyone in British politics was for it when the European union started out and prior to that among people who advocated for a European union. Churchill was for it too. I think most people in Europe are for the idea because its beneficial to everyone but has been dirtied by the modern EU which favours Africans over Europeans and its left wing political leanings.
It would still be possible to unify Europe without dissolving diversity, speaking one language and blending every nationality into one big mutt Euro identity. The basis for a union already exists although the modern EU will never admit it, and that''s ethnic, historical ,religious, cultural and political ties amongst European nations. Given what surrounds Europe, i.e., Islamic North Africa and the Middle East, and Islamic Turks sitting on Greek Orthodox land, Sub Saharan Africa where they necklace people and burn witches beyond that, the street shitters on the Indian subcontent and the chinks further east. The basis for unification is that we're a cluster of separate nations that are apart of the same civilisation.
>The eu is the exact opposite of nationalism.
Not the modern EU you moron.
Ayden Kelly
If Russia were to join they'd likely have to join as an entire country. The European part of Russia actually has 75% of the population, so they aren't going to give that up and Russians themselves wouldn't want to give up the land mass and resources of the eastern half.
If it was just a trade and travel co-operation and not a parliamentary union then they might consider joining, but after the USSR I doubt Russian citizens want to join a Union any time soon.
Brayden Bailey
If it has nothing to do with the EU don’t call it the EU
Branding is important
David Cruz
Current EU must be brought down completely, and from its ashes a united Europe under NatSoc (no Jews ever) it might work. Individual countries sovereignty must be maintained, including separate laws, immigration policies and politics.
Jayden Cox
>If Russia were to join
Russia SHOULD be a full member of any European union without dispute and in a world where the Communist revolution never happened, it would be but the modern politics of Russia and the fake east/west divide created by American boomers in the cold war has dirtied that.
As you said though, the majority of Russia's population lives in the same France-sized European quarter of land that is Russia's core territory where its actual civilisation was based for a thousand years and not just wilderness. They were ethnically European and were considered apart of Europe since forever though, the last Tsar of Russia was Queen Victoria's grandson and the cousin of King George which tells you what Victorian Brits thought of Russians since Victoria only married her family to European monarchs.
If Russia joined, China has no chance.
Easton Smith
Gotta get those (You)s. Calling ti the EU helps keep thread alive cause burgers drop in to say "no fuck the EU globalist scum"
Cameron Sullivan
Pic related.
Also I imagine in Russia if you asked Russians "Would you support Russia joining a new union with European nations?" the idea would be dirtied by what the EU is.
Gavin Ward
So in this imaginary EU has every member independently elected natsoc governments, or are there dissenters?
Kevin Rodriguez
Fuck no. Individual nations for their peoples.
Dominic Lopez
Yes, after WW1 and WW2 the era of European in-fighting was over and as the power of global politics moved from Europe to the USA, Russia (and now China) they were awoken to the fact that if European countries were to remain dominant it would have to be Europe vs the world. The idea itself was always good, it's just the execution that failed.
Completely agree. The USSR stripped and destroyed all of Russia's European heritage and values for the sake of promoting a new culture of Communist ideals.
That, along with the cold war and US war time propaganda has led us to the current situation in which people think of Russia as a separate entity rather than a European nation.
Jacob Rodriguez
No. He's advocating the current EU, or some other governing body, that happens to be Natsoc. There would be no individual governments who had power to make laws in their own nations.
NatSoc was never about respecting ethnic diversity and autonomy, nor the rights of nations.
It was imperialist.
Camden Foster
How is that not an empire instead of an international union
Brody Evans
Well the LARP is still in design and open to suggestion, particularly on head/s of state and succession, but on that subject my concept for a unified Europe involves the total dissolution of all national governments in Europe and completely centralising power in Europe.
Now this part is essential to the whole thing, and is something the current EU does in part, but it would push the concept of supporting the individual ethnic groups in Europe and totally dissolving the nation states and modern borders, i.e., there is no more Britain, there is the English, the Welsh, the Cornish and the Scottish. Maybe even the Northumbrians and the Mercians, we can go to a regional level. In a political sense, this is essentially creating a shared European national identity because it can smash divisions of power and conflicts between nationalities and arguments over how much power member states should hold, and boring everyone with dividing power equally and simply allowing all ethnic states in Europe to govern themselves at a local level on their own whilst making nation wide decisions like foreign policy, defence policy and trade policy at a continental level.
Mason Taylor
The EU needs to be purged so we can do a redo.
Christian Richardson
Depends on your definition, but that is how the USSR worked and it was a union.
An empire would insinuate that one country had conquered the others as opposed to a formally joined union.
Daniel Anderson
Could be interesting in concept and worth some thought, but again I do believe that’s an empire
Hudson Brooks
>There would be no individual governments who had power to make laws in their own nations.
They can govern themselves on a local level, the way the British parliament was meant to work in theory, which is having members of parliament elected on a local level to deal with local issues representing their constituencies in parliament without a party affiliation, doing their job, and then retiring.
But yes, one idea for European unification is completely dissolving nation states and the modern political borders and favouring the ethnic groups in Europe rather than the political borders.
James Davis
>but again I do believe that’s an empire
Maybe. I'm not pro-imperialism, simply because history has shown its best to ignore the rest of the world and there'd be more than enough land and resources to go around but there are clear similarities to an empire that'd make for some good propaganda. It's a contintental wide military union under the banner of shared ethnicity and cultural ties.
Aaron Powell
>it’s best to ignore the rest of the world
Agreed, until it comes back to bite you like it did the Japanese
But keeping a strong and modern military with lots of research into new tech would hopefully prevent that
Alexander Walker
no, eu will always be a pc cuckhole.
Christopher Thompson
Not if you pretend it isn't in your brain and decide whether you'd be against it or for it since this is all in theory
Easton Sullivan
>The USSR stripped and destroyed all of Russia's European heritage
Not all of it. Have you been to the Most European parts of Russia?