True communism was never tried
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...more than the ten or twelve times that it catastrophically failed.
>"muh working class"
Sure it was. Look into the actual history behind Thanksgiving in America. The pilgrims were starving because they tried "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need", and nobody bothered to grow any food.
The following year, after a third of them died from starvation, they changed to property rights and capitalism, and the great feast was held in November as a result. That bullshit about the natives and the maize is 20th century revisionism.
There was never a communist system that didn't have money, status hierarchies, prisons, etc. all of which anti-communal. They may call themselves communist but they aren't. Communism is for the people, not some monarch.
I wonder if lefties realize their system is just a mean for increasing consumerism and make big companies even richer by redistributing money to people who wouldn't consume otherwise.
How many people on welfare with an iphone here, it's pretty much the norm for poor people to have a $1000 phone (and eating pasta for a month because they're poor).
I'm not even talking about socialism being funded by increasing debt, which makes capitalists even richer. Damn those lefties are fucking stupid, they don't realize THEY're the stupid tools of those jewish pig bankers.
There should be no echelon. In a communist nation, everyone is equal but different.
>starving... and nobody bothered to grow any food
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Everyone has a family, no debt, well nourished, and everyone willingly contributes. Even though the island is overpopulated and some resources are scarce like boats, they still manage to live without money.
Have you ever considered that maybe it's all a scam and just keep falling for it?
The thing with communism is that it's the key to utopia yet can also lead to totalitarianism. If the people allow non-communal systems (money, hierarchies, gulags, tax, etc.) to be injected into their community then they deserve to live in dystopia. The economy is only a reflection the the public's valued beliefs. That's why everyone needs to realize they have been manipulated all their lives by covert cabals before getting into utopian systems.
C-communism killed millions. American capitalist imperialism killed how many?! That's just the price of freedom.
>True communism was never tried
It's more like; True communism has never been archived, because it ends in human disaster.
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
>True communism CAN never be tried
How bow dah?
>governments that proclaim the absolute equality of their citizens but give power and privileges to a small elite.
no equal
That is what (((they))) want you to believe to discourage humans from attempting actual communism. They successfully made it into a cliche for totalitarianism.
True capitalism was never tried because we have central banks.¿?
That doesn't mean communism was never TRIED, it means it never materialized. When a group calling themselves "the communist party" takes control over a country and has free-reign for years/decades to do whatever they can, that counts as a fucking "try".
Communism will NEVER exist because it is a meme-fantasy ideology that violates human nature.
Nope, the existence of central banks does not go against the definition of "capitalism" (which is essentially just "private property exists"). The truth is capitalism is a Marxist word, and by using it you are accepting their definitions and limitations. You should reject the false dichotomy. International capitalism and international socialism are just two sides of the same shekel.
>Even though the island is overpopulated
In the video, I saw, at most 30 people.
>resources are scarce like boats
Boats are not resources
>they still manage to live without money.
At a very primitive level. Besides, money doesn't always mean, numbers written on notes. Everything that can be used to measure value, can be a currency. 10 fish for 1 boat, for example.
Now tell me what happens, if somebody can't provide for himself? I. e crippled, unwilling etc. Or what happens If somebody gets sick or needs medicine? What if I want 1000 boats but I don't value the currency (fish) the same as boats?
You really don't get the quote, do you? Equality is just the means for the purpose.
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Let me guess, you or any lefty would push through all Stalins, Lenins, Maus, Pol Pots and so on. Your ideology, or at least the pure form, is an utopia, it always opens a vacuum that will be filled by the most ruthless and brutal leader.
>That is what (((they))) want you to believe
What if (((they))) want to divide people into groups,the haves and haves not?
Poor vs. Rich = The Rich fleed the country or have been killed.
Poor vs. Middle class. I. e part of the proles.
Divide and Conquer
Why would anyone want to attempt a nonsense system that doesn't work?
>That doesn't mean communism was never TRIED, it means it never materialized. When a group calling themselves "the communist party" takes control over a country and has free-reign for years/decades to do whatever they can, that counts as a fucking "try".
And yet they never made it past the monetary system (root of all evil). Not communism at all.
>violates human nature
Tribes, being the foundation communities; are ideally communist, yet it's not in human nature?
>And yet they never made it past the monetary system (root of all evil).
exactly, because it's a retarded system that does not work in reality
>Not communism at all.
no shit, I freely admitted that
>Tribes, being the foundation communities; are ideally communist, yet it's not in human nature?
kek, no they aren't. Tribes have hierarchy, tribes have gender roles, tribes have racial/tribal identity
Opp, I want you to know. I sincerely hate you, and you are a fag.
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Pol Pot abolished all these systems that you listed.
Radically solved the national question in the country, physically canceling all other nationalities, except the Khmer and Chinese. However, the Chinese, who did not have time to run away, also canceled physically.
PP announced the end of urban civilization. Having barely occupied Phnom Penh, he threw 90% of half a million residents of the capital into the jungle. Peasants tore off in full on the citizens. Who tried to resist, was shot. So did the other cities. According to rumors, among the residents of Phnom Penh were members of the Pol Pot same family.
He ordered to get rid of all the benefits of modern "white" civilization - from cars to electric razors. Cars were broken with sledgehammers, home appliances were buried in the ground.
Canceled money. At all. Entering Phnom Penh, the Khmer Rouge blew up the national bank and placed a fertilizer warehouse in its vaults.
He abolished religion with the priests. He killed the cloud of monks, statues of Buddha and other religious objects. Almost completely destroyed the Muslims and Christians of the country.
Socialized all women. Who with whom should copulate - determined the party leadership.
To the delight of schoolboys, he cut all the schools together with the teachers and burned all the books he could reach. In addition to Karl Marx, whom the grateful folk studied the only day off.
All four-eyed people (intellectuals) automatically ranked as dangerous, and therefore people with poor eyesight were shot without talking.
In exchange for everything canceled, he created communes of 10 thousand people each, where in the midst of nature enthusiasts began to build communism for a cup of rice a day. The bones of the dead were crushed and used as fertilizer, not to mention some ordinary and familiar human shit.
According to conventional wisdom, Pol Pot thus killed about three million people. Nothing less than a third of the population of Cambodia in 1300 days.
By the way, he studied in one of the most liberal cities in Europe and one classmate said that he loved poetry very much and was not deprived of a sense of humor
all true
but 'capitalism' is more than just 'private property'
the distinguishing feature of capitalism is the prevalence of wage labor. A capitalist system is one in which there is a division between those who own the productive property and those who work the property. i.e. a system where the majority of workers are employees of the owners of capital.
Defining capitalism as just "private property" and "free markets" furthers the capitalist/communist false dichotomy.
>Boats are not resources
Boats are made of wood and not that much wood on their island of 300 people
>money doesn't always mean, numbers written on notes. Everything that can be used to measure value, can be a currency. 10 fish for 1 boat, for example.
You are confusing between currency and direct barter.
>What if I want 1000 boats
What are you going to achieve with 1000 boats? Just going to park them in your garage to collect dust like millionaires do today? If you can convince your community that you need that many boats, then have at it.
>Equality is just the means for the purpose
m8 they can fling all sorts of manipulative words to secure their parasitic spot on the public. If the people don't care about being leeched off, then they deserve it. Actions speak louder than words.
>Stalins, Lenins, Maus, Pol Pots and so on
They were puppets of (((cabals)))
>it always opens a vacuum that will be filled by the most ruthless and brutal leader.
Not going to happen if the people won't allow the centralization, which belongs to the public; get into the hands of a self-serving clique.
>What if (((they))) want to divide people into groups,the haves and haves not?
Why do you assume there is some monarch/oligarch present in every communist system? Monarchy/oligarchy contradicts the entire meaning of community.
The fact that this man is so rarely talked about is fucking insane, and commies today will still try, and brush this aside.
Not only this, but the families in tribal situations tended to have familial hunting grounds. And assuming we take bartering into account, these hunting grounds produced food, or a good to exchange, in its own way, a form of currency with an exchange rate. The prerequisite of private property is that it can be utilized to produce capital. Therefore familial hunting grounds we’re forms of early private property with capital to gain through hunting ie labour which could then be exchanged in a market fashion.
Therefore tribes we’re not inherently communistic.
>True capitalism was never tried because we have central banks
It depends...
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it was tried many times, but it was never achieved because none can pass over the socialism phase.
What working class?
It was tried and every time it worked.
Bernie please
Venezuela is socialist and is currently fighting off US imperialism and internal wreckers.
Maybe it’s a sign that communism is a terrible idea and shouldn’t be tried to for the billionth time if all that ever happens in practice is “not real communism” totalitarian tyranny.
>exactly, because it's a retarded system that does not work in reality
Nope, its because the monarch didn't allow it to, but how did the monarch come to be? The pleb public didn't unlearn control systems and were still in the dark and were fine with bending over to (((people))) they trusted to make decision for them.
>kek, no they aren't...
Native Americans were egalitarian, they didn't have stratification like the Europeans did.
>fighting off US imperialism
So you are retarded then? They seized 25 billion worth of Exon assets then ran the refineries into the ground. They then lost a court case to pay compensation but could not afford to pay. It was not until this year that sanctions went into action. You are fucking retarded
>Boats are made of wood and not that much wood on their island of 300 people
and? Boats are made of resources.
>You are confusing between currency and direct barter.
>>money
n. A medium that can be exchanged for goods and services and is used as a measure of their values on the market, including among its forms a commodity such as gold, an officially issued coin or note, or a deposit in a checking account or other readily liquefiable account.
>What are you going to achieve with 1000 boats?
What if I just want them?
No, I want to maximize my productivity and employ people who fish for me and I pay them for their work.
>Just going to park them in your garage to collect dust like millionaires do today?
You mean like luxury cars? Those cars were made by worker who got paid. I. e the demand of EVIL millionaires gave them a job.
>If you can convince your community that you need that many boats, then have at it.
What if I don't feel like asking? Or what if they don't like me.
>manipulative words to secure their parasitic spot on the public
Please read animal farm.
Do it, order it and read it as soon it arrives.
>They were puppets of (((cabals)))
Let me guess the next ones will be not
>Not going to happen
kek
>people won't allow the centralization
The leaders will say, you are a class traitor, if you don't support centralization. And the KGB will keep you in line. Just like Stalin did.
>Why do you assume there is some monarch/oligarch present in every communist system?
I didn't.
Again; Divide and Conquer into the haves and haves not
I know you don't give a shit what I write. You will always seek loopholes, that you can use as "not real communism". But please look at your ideology critically for once.
Do you think people hate Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin and communism just for fun?
>Do you think people hate Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin and communism just for fun?
hating communism is a boomer meme
>Maybe it’s a sign that communism is a terrible idea and shouldn’t be tried to for the billionth time
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You mean Exxon assets that belonged to them in the first place? Fuck Exxon. And no they didn't run the refineries into the ground. Fuck Exxon and fuck the USA, Venezuelan oil belongs to the people.
>And no they didn't run the refineries into the ground
Yeah, facts are stupid right?
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Fuck off idiot
They had sanctions put on them. No point in producing oil if you can't sell it to anyone. That's what your little article written by corporate oil hacks misses out.
First problem: monarch (anti-communal)
Second problem: he did what the public didn't like (anti-communal)
Third problem: killing the community for the community??? (anti-communal)
If the people allowed him to get into power then they deserve a genocide. He wasn't for the community therefore wasn't a communist.
>No point in producing oil if you can't sell it to anyone
What?
They still can sell to the second and third world
No-one is allowed to buy off them. Its the actual state oil "company" that has the sanctions on it. They're also not allowed to trade in gold. The USA is literally trying to choke Venezuela to death until they hand the oil industry back to corporations.
>They had sanctions put on them
This year moron, the country has been falling apart for the last 10 with zero sanctions.
>No point in producing oil if you can't sell it to anyone
They can't produce oil because all the skilled engineers left because they can't even get a roll of TP in the country. You fucking commies are beyond stupid. They didn't diversify their economy when they had the chance, instead the gov chose more gibs to stay in power. Canada has a huge oil industry, but you didn't see us crash and burn when oil prices dropped
No it wasn't. Venezuela was doing fine until the USA poked its nose in.
>They can't produce oil because all the skilled engineers
Complete and utter bullshit. You're ignoring facts. The USA is responsible.
>The USA is responsible.
They can't even keep the power on. How the fuck is a country floating oil not able to generate electricity for the capital city, let alone refineries. Fuck off commie I'm done
>No-one is allowed to buy off them
Are you joking or do you deliberately trying to spread desinformation? The are not alowed to trade with most first world countries. But can still with China etc.
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So your argument is that “it wasn’t real communism”? It must be so fucking easy to defend communism, every time it fucking fails I can just turn around, and say it wasn’t real, and try again, I wouldn’t have to examine the ideology in the first place or consider the idea that it is wrong due to it failing every single time, and I just have to tell people that communism will bring them a utopia, and if it fails to do that then it’s wasn’t communism, and all the blame, and fault will just be taken away or I’ll simply shift the blame on to someone else, and get away with the whole thing. What a perfect defence mechanism.
DURR because the electrical systems keep getting sabotaged by internal capitalist terrorists and wreckers. They literally blew up a fucking power plant.
Yes, its Exxon and Chevron that are doing the exports because they still have a share of the oil. I said its the STATE oil company that has sanctions, private oil producers don't have sanctions on them.
Oh look a commie shifting blame away from his retarded ideology to someone else, you fuckers are so dishonest it’s incomprehensible, you never face consequences, and you always use someone else as a scapegoat. Venezuela was a shithole before the US showed up, and it’s still a shithole, and considering the quality of people living there, it will remain a shithole indefinitely.
>True communism can't even be tried
FTFY
Shut up you imperialist. Venezuela isn't even a shit hole, for the average person its better than the USA.
>and? Boats are made of resources.
wood = resource = boat
>>money
Money is a unnecessary middle man between barters.
>What if I just want them?
The community isn't going to waste their resources on a spoiled cry baby, unless you are gigaobese and need 1000 boats to keep you buoyant in water.
>No, I want to maximize my productivity and employ people who fish for me and I pay them for their work.
>pay them for their work
There is no monetary system and everyone works for everyone, not some private individuals.
>What if I don't feel like asking? Or what if they don't like me.
If you don't resonate with your people then consider living on your own or joining/starting a community of like-minded individuals.
>The leaders will say...
Who gave the leaders power? the people. The same people, if not still beta minded; can evoke those powers. btw politics aren't necessary because of super computers. Look into the venus project.
>You will always seek loopholes, that you can use as "not real communism".
There is nothing to fix in the system. The entire thing is a maggot infestation. Starting off fresh and doing what everyone likes is thinking outside the box and actual progress.
>Yes, its Exxon and Chevron that are doing the exports because they still have a share of the oil. I said its the STATE oil company that has sanctions, private oil producers don't have sanctions on them.
Let's try it this way; Does Venuzuela trade with China?
No, lets not put it that way because its framing the question wrong. The crises revolves around the USA trying to get the PDVSA to relinquish its assets into private hands. Private companies are still allowed to trade, its the PDVSA that has had its assets frozen.
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Not true, as a Costa Rican we receive a lot of venezuelan refugees, even the leftist ones are dissapointed. By the way I can tell you are a champagne socialist, because if you were a real commie you'd know how Venezuela is not even reformed socialism; Venezuela is a nepotist oligarchy, they have private property and free exhange with the world, so not communism at all. Only Stalin did it, and even some Russian theorists might argue Stalin was not a real marxist. Point is, communism does not exist user.
Eating rats, and living with no fucking power is definitely comparable to the average US citizen, Venezuela is a fucking shithole just like every other country in Latin America, the economic doctrine is generally irrelevant, a nation is only as good as it’s people, and Venezuela is full of indo/nigger/med mutts, they will always fail, but living under a system which even the Germans failed to make work is an absolute guarantee of failure.
Its a fact. If you're a low income worker in the USA or not white you'd be better off living in Iraq.
I don't deny there's refugees, good. The capitalist filth is cleansing itself. I wouldn't say Venezuela has reached socialism, 70% of the economy is still private; but it is trying to build it, therefore it is socialist. Stalin was a real marxist.
>Eating rats
This is just bullshit. Stop reading NATO propaganda articles, they lie about other countries 24/7. They even fucking lie about us, remember how every American seriously thinks we have no-go zones where police are afraid to enter when both you and I as British know that's a crock of shit? Remember when the USA said China had a muslim child concentration camp, and then it turned out to be a fucking school?
>just like every other country in Latin America
Speak for youself Nigel, the face recognition drone is passing by your window, pick up that can before they activate the shocking feature of your chip implants.
Read about my country and seethe, have a real red pill for once in a while, deny it and face the cope< well couldn't blame you, you are literally living in the world of 1984...I feel genuine pitty for you.
Attempts at communism always failed because the people were not ready for it. What is in the mind will manifest in the environment. People still believed in Babylon-tier control systems and had no idea about covert cabals puppeteering their leaders. You can't solve what's in the box by using what's in the box while what's outside the box is manipulating what's in the box. btw earth is the only known planet in the multiverse that uses money. All the ayys and interdimensionals know it's a control tool.
>wood = resource = boat
raw material + manufacturing = Product
>Money is an unnecessary middle man between barters.
Let's just skip this part since you don't understand the definition of money
>The community isn't going to waste
What if I give them something in return?
>There is no monetary system and everyone works for everyone, not some private individuals.
What if they do it voluntarily? And agree for a compensation?
>If you don't resonate with your people
I'm very asocial
>joining/starting a community of like-minded individuals
That are against communism and embrace EVIL capitalism.
I agree with that point
>The same people, if not still beta minded
So if a "No true Scotsman" comes to power, you would start a second revolution?
>btw politics aren't necessary because of super computers.
I will just let that sink in... The lives of millions are at hand of a few programmers and a cold calculating computer...
Yes it was and without a capitalist system supporting it, it failed time and time again.
Nice quints
>That’s what they want you to believe.
OR it’s not a trick and communism really is a terrible idea
>No, lets not put it that way
Yes we are going to. Solely because you said "No-one is allowed to buy off them". They sit on the highest oil reserves in the world, even if 50 % or even 75 % is privately is owned, they should have been better off than any other country that doesn't have any reserves.
Don’t worry lad, my country won’t be part of this police state for much longer, once it has United with the rest of my island, but that doesn’t mean the problems are over, this place is getting flooded with subhumans just like every where else, and it’s gonna take some serious work to clean out, but I’ve never been one for quitting.
I said no-one is allowed to buy off PDVSA, who have had their assets frozen and stolen off them buy the federal reserve. Private producers are still allowed to export.
> tfw when your prized ideology is so shitty it can’t even be implemented properly one time
Good systems exist organically without anyone artistically screeching for it. Even a small group of friends contains social classes.
This is correct, communism has never been tried. After all, the criteria for communism includes the fine print: "In order for it to be communism, it must work too"
>five zeros
>Literally quint-essential
The quintessential truth of life gentlemen.
>Not taking more swings at latin america
Mmmkay I think thats a brittish way of agreeing. I mean every place has it's problems, and yes the majority of the genetic complexion leads to dumb people...but they are godd hearted and honest...not like muslims or kikes.
I unironically think that you guys have (or had) a great place and rich culture, and it pisses me off to see the excesive pakis roaming around, and all those ridiculous totalitarian laws they push everyday. Godspeed user.
>typos
>and yes the majority of the genetic complexion in latin america leads to dumb people
>good-hearted
Haven't slept for a while.
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>To put PDVSA’s depletion rate into perspective, let’s compare it to Exxon’s. At the end of 2015, Exxon’s depletion rate was 8.15% -- which is comparable to most of the world’s major oil companies. That rate implies Exxon's median time to extraction (and sale) for a barrel of oil is 8.2 years. That’s 190 years earlier than PDVSA would realize revenue from selling a barrel of oil. Given the rate at which Exxon is depleting its reserves, they are worth something. Indeed, if we discount at 10%, Exxon’s reserves are worth 46% of the well-head value. Not zero, as is the case for PDVSA.
>So, with the way PDVSA operates, it is exploiting reserves so slowly as to render them, on average, worthless. If that’s not bad enough, PDVSA is generating negative cash flows and piling up a mountain of debt (see the chart above). The arithmetic does not look good. PDVSA faces $10 bil. in interest and principal payments this year, but reports estimate that PDVSA only has $2 bil. in cash to service its debt obligations. In principle, the government could come to the rescue. But, its stated reserves have dwindled to below $10.5 bil.
>assets frozen and stolen off them buy the federal reserve
No they are just an inefficent coperation
>Private producers are still allowed to export
And they pay taxes, I assume, that way VEN should be better off.
It's said, true communism was actually tried by one man. Who almost immediately vanished up his own arsehole with a poof. Sadly neither the man or the poof, have ever been seen again.
>raw material + manufacturing = Product
>Resource: a STOCK or supply of money, materials, staff, and other assets that can be drawn on by a person or organization in order to function effectively.
>Stock: the GOODS or merchandise kept on the premises of a business or warehouse and available for sale or distribution.
>Goods: merchandise or POSSESSION.
>Possession = owning a boat
boat = resource
>Let's just skip this part since you don't understand the definition of money
Valuing real resources instead of imaginary resources made of paper, metal, or digital bits is the definition of a resource based economy.
>What if I give them something in return?
So you are going to work hard just to claim more of something that you can already use for free just because you want to? Pinnacle of capitalist thinking.
>What if they do it voluntarily?
that is called helping
And agree for a compensation?
They don't need compensation because the community already provides all their needs.
>That are against communism and embrace EVIL capitalism. I agree with that point
protip: the new community attracts jews and you will eventually become a wagie because echelons are a thing.
>The lives of millions are at hand of a few programmers and a cold calculating computer...
but nothing is privatized so the public can see what the computers are doing to avoid corruption.
Here is my take on the capitalist-communist relationship.
I believe that National Socialism was opposed in WW2 over communism, and is continued to be vilified, is because it is the most pragmatic approach to socialism and has the best chance of making it work. This is due to its focus on national identity, traditional hierarchies which are natural to the human species (E.g. The family unit), and rejection of consumerism over tradition; Who you are is more important than what you have, and you are defined by your actions and those around your as opposed to what you consume.
Despite the communist proposals to "overthrow the bourgeois", these same elites realise that to do this, people much be able to organise as a coherent mass with clear goals and ideals. Therefore, it makes sense to push for identity politics, and importing people from different cultures as this will will maximise the ideological differences between people. Importing the 3rd world also benefits them, due to the lowering of wages and working conditions, for which the left will be encouraged to mock anyone who complains; e.g Louis CK on Immigration.
By making anyone who opposes these actions a social pariah (Racist, bigots, etc...), it becomes very easy to shut down legitimate criticisms and make people afraid to critique the rise of these factors that ultimately decrease the chances of socialism working.
By using communists as their militant arm, ensuring that they defend IdPol and increased diversity in the hope of achieving their "rainbow utopia", the elite can push "woke politics" and fund the likes of Antifa without fear of being overthrown, as populations will become increasingly socially atomsied. With no national identity, the atomsied individual defines himself by what he consumes.
I also agree that they want to increase consumer spending capability, especially for the people at the lower end of the social scale who will spend their money on frivolous shit.
What we know as "communism" is a set of political ideologies put together for the sake of polarizing the accelerationist discord.
What communists know as communism is not even an economic system or a totalitarian ideology. In their heads "communism" is when we are all so advanced and freed from our egos and needs (as if we all had collective telepathy and were able to have empathy for other while instantly agreeing on things) that we dont need money anymore, there are no uselessjobs, everybody has a job, resources are not over exploted, and pretty much everything is a perfectly functional utopia in which we all pull in the same direction with the same ideal.
And that is why real communism has never been tried, because it's a meme that does not exist.
>Communism as a means to increase consumerism.
This is why we communism.
OP isn't wrong. True communism is just archaic tribalism, it's been tried before but civilization kills it automatically. City people can't be communists, only a tribe can.
>Valuing real resources instead of imaginary resources made of paper, metal, or digital bits is the definition of a resource based economy.
>>n. A medium that can be exchanged for goods and services and is used as a measure of their values on the market, including among its forms a commodity such as gold, an officially issued coin or note, or a deposit in a checking account or other readily liquefiable account.
>So you are going to work hard just to claim more of something that you can already use for free
No I give something that others don't have.
>Pinnacle of capitalist thinking.
You cannot imagine how much I hate snobs
>They don't need compensation because the community already provides all their needs.
What incentive do I have to work, if people would take care of me and all services are """free""".
>the new community attracts jews
Tell me one community that was not infiltrated by jews. The upside of capitalism is, that you can vote with your wallet.
>you will eventually become a wagie
People have to do something, if they want to eat, shocking. Under capitalism if have the choice to work for somebody else, work for me or do nothing.
>public can see what the computers are doing to avoid corruption
The computer says: "all humans have to eat so(j) because it is rich with proteins and everything else is bad." How is that different than Theocracy? One singe entity says how others have to life.
Oh I forgot, the public will determine what will be accepted and what not. Well tough luck, if somebody is against it, that would lead to unrest and dispute.
*work for somebody else, work for yourself or do nothing
Lad I just watched a video on best gore of some police officer, and his son getting skinned alive, and it really isn’t a one off, good hearted would be a stretch, most people I hope are, but I can’t think of any solution to Latin America besides some form of fascism, and an extensive eugenics program.