Nuclear power was a mistake

>German
>telling anyone how to run energy policy

Ya, tell me you fucking Kraut how it feels to have the price of electricity go up 500% in 20 years?

A wind turbine lasts 20-30 years, same with PV. And compared to the joke that is the nuclear fuel cycle recycling them is nbd.

In a generation or two there won't be many NPP left. The US is already shutting down plants because they cannot compete with renewables and fracking.
Japan shut down its plants and they were fine, same with Germany.

Some totalitarian shitholes like Russia and China will still have a few NPP but everyone else will go for renewables.

Would be even better if we could just dump the trash on an already barren planet.

Oh, wow, you watched a Netflix special. You must know a lot about this issue now.

>molten salt reactors
Why is nobody building them iif they're so cheap and safe? Hint: It's because trying to do so would mean spending many billions on a deadend technology. There's a reason the UK didn't go for the molten salt meme and ordered an EPR instead. And even that '''''proven''''' technology apparently cannot be built at competitive cost anymore.

>Regulates Nuclear power to death whilst wasting billions of tax dollars on bullshit that breaks down
>People burn oil because it's still more cost efficient until Kraut police put guns to the heads of people who want to not be spent to death

Leftism is a disease

> Nuclear power

is dead already.

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_generation#History

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We're on the right side of history. Fascism has been dying since it was invented.

>Regulates Nuclear power to death
kek, who do you think makes the rules? all the experts are former industry. If the world had listened to the likes of Greenpeace Chernobyl would have never happened. They told us back in the 1970ies and they were the ones who exposed the carelessness of the industry in the first place.
Remember, nuclear was advertized as 'too cheap to meter' and even Gen 2 reactors were supposed to be 100% safe.

But the older these NPPs get the bigger the problem. Russia's fleet for example is a nightmare.

A new level of pathetic has been, for lack of a better word, achieved here today. God damn that is pathetic. Lol. Wow.

Of course. That's why we should get out of it worldwide.
Nuclear energy has no advantages anymore.

Fossil fuel (especially coal) is the solution.

Oh look, someone watches HBO.

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Kek. It takes 30 years to achieve a positive lifecycle energy output. Hope it doesnt break!

how long until the media and libs get after Chernobyl for being a decent show without any homosexual POC's shitting it up?

Nuclear is the only viable source of energy that doesn't contribute to your climate change, retard.

>molten salt reactors

Fucking no

>>insanely expensive
My electricity bill would beg to differ.

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Let's burn coal and oil, pumping toxic gasses into the atmosphere that comes back down onto us in the form of acid rain. This rain then goes into the water, the ground, and into us.

But hey, not like we already aren't exposed from radiation from the fucking sun.

True story. The only downside is that were all going the way of SA.

Maybe if you ordered your turbine 30 years ago
>Their analysis shows that the vast majority of predicted environmental impacts would be caused by materials production and manufacturing processes. However, the payback for the associated energy use is within about 6 months, the team found. It is likely that even in a worst case scenario, lifetime energy requirements for each turbine will be subsumed by the first year of active use.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140616093317.htm

>Carelessness of the industry
>Chernobyl
Sure a communist country that couldn't drive tractors is a good example of an industry

>450+ nuclear reactors in the world.
>Reactors have been online for 60+ years.
>One major event due to incompetence and bypassing of safety measures in history.

Medical malfeasance causes over 300,000 deaths in the U.S. EVERY YEAR.
That's nurses and doctors making preventable mistakes.

>Nuclear reactors have killed less people since their inception than unqualified doctors make in a week.

>if the state has to bail out failing utilities I'm not paying for it with my taxes
Your electricity bill is heavily subsidized and the true costs of France's NPP construction spree has never been calculated.

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>We need to stop polluting the environment and stop global warming
Then you mean we need to switch completely to nuclear power immediately.
>Nuclear is not sustainable.
Nuclear is the ONLY viable long-term power source. It will last longer than the planet.

This is unironically interesting. I didn't realize they would pay for them themselves that quickly these days.

yeah.. Calvert reporting in.. F

This

However, if this poster is pro fossil fuels and not actually pro bullshit-that's-expensive-as-fuck-and-doesn't-work(all non-damn, non-geothermal "alternate energy"), they're not as cucked as originally thought.

>other completely unrelated thing bad too

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Imagine nationalizing your nuclear power planta and using diversity hires to staff them.

Enjoy being IRL fallout france

You were a mistake.

He was being sarcastic, never take anyone in 4chinz seriously.

Literally the only way to deal with the existing nuclear waste we have is to recycle it into fuel for other reactors, so it's a necessity we continue investing in nuclear research and infrastructure for that alone.

doug stanhope is looking terrible

If you were to research them you'd know that required regulative overhaul has been the leading reason coupled with a lack of government desire. Slowly things are changing many countries are now investing in experimental programs or building a supply chain for MSR and other gen 4 cycles.

US Nuclear regulation went through excessive bloating in the 70s-90s mostly due to action based off environmentalist pressures. Some of it is probably reasonable but I expect government looks at it like opening a can of worms in the US's case.

>ITT: If you support renewable energy instead of nuclear, you're a lefty cuck.
Fuck off retards. Hitler wouldn't have allowed nuclear shit to thrive in his beloved land when renewable is a valid alternative

>Germany determined to go 100% renewable
>shutters nuclear plants in favor of wind and solar
>wind and solar can't produce enough power on some days
>Coal-powered plants fire up to meet increased demand
>Germans burning more coal for power than ever

Of course the Germans have an issue with nuclear, it IS a "jewish" science.

I see we have an idiot who believes windmills will be able to fix everything.

Educate yourself on nuclear power, fag. If they could build a modern reactor design without reactionaries like you envisioning a Chernobyl waiting to happen, these new reactors would come with a new fuel containment design that is proven safe and designed specifically to deal with a loss of coolant accident.

Encapsulated fuel would drain out of the reactor with a loss of coolant pressure and end up by way of gravity in a large water tank for storage until the cooling system is operational again. You can't meltdown if the fuel is never in a position to melt, and any steam created by the cooling process would naturally condense, become water and return to the storage tank by gravity.

Do you people really think nuclear engineering just stopped happening after Chernobyl?

Holy shit, imagine watching an HBO TV show and then basing your politics around it
You dumb fucking sod

it's to put things in perspective you fucking retard kraut

and this anti-nuclear shill thread full of samefagging is pathetic by the way

What are you going to do with the waste? You volunteer to store it in your home?

Ahahahahahahahaha

A German talking about engineering, lmao. Fuck off Achmed.

>user, nuclear is the shit, and continues to be the shit.

Obligatory bump for thorium flouride to replace nuclear.

Look at this hill
That I just found

Cope.

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You don't mind the government stealing guns. Surely the almighty government has a solution.

>Moltex has since set up a 10-person office in Saint John, and is now raising close to six million British pounds ($10.3 million) in private money to put toward the project.
>Over the next year, it will attempt to raise a further £40 million to help finance its first plant near the Point Lepreau nuclear facility, which would eventually cost $1 billion to $1.5 billion.

>This plant could be ready in eight to 10 years, if everything goes smoothly.
So they've secured 40 million out of 1.5b so far anf if they somehow manage to finance it they might finish their first small scale prototype reaction in 2030. Then they'll start trials, then years later a bigger reactor might get built. And that's if everything goes to plan. It's too little too late.

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It's not a bad show, no niggers, a true blessing.

what the fuck is flouride?

Some shit that schizos believe the govt controls your mind with.

It's more abundant, more stable, with no waste product. It would take something crazy like a pound of it to power the US for three years if I remember correctly.

wow. I have never heard of flouride before. that's crazy!

Launch it into space.

>Germany determined to go 100% renewable
Germany was determined to do so under Schröder, under Merkel's CDU progress slowed down because bowing to NYMBYism is great for getting reelected. And that's all Merkel cares about.
German subsidies played a large role in making renewables incredibly cheap. Today it's just a matter of economics and getting rid of fossil fuel and nuclear subsidies.

It’s the stuff the government puts in the water to make you gay.

Don't get me wrong, it can always be a good show, just don't base your politics around one lmao
Are you not aware of flourides?
Anyway he's referring to a kind of thorium-based power source, which is likely far more efficient and marginally safer, than nuclear

Tfw Canada has the safest nuclear technology but a corrupt company from Quebec bought the old company out

They arent salt reactors they are sodium, they are super dangerous because sodium would react with water in the air and explode in the case of a leak

If all that is true how come the only one that went boom in Europe was in soviet Ukraine were everyone was more interested on putting on a show that doing what should be done?

we would store it at the yucca mountain high level waste facility if you faggots would stop bitching

we should use this flouride stuff I just found out about

Why is Germany bitching about nuclear power? Their green energy program is as successful as the new Berlin airport (meaning a huge expensive failure).

>easy to contain
>cant meltdown because already molten
>fuel far more common in earth's crust

What do you have against molten salt reactors?

teschernobyl death clouds back in the day

Ah yes, the latest in kike propaganda to keep energy innovation down.

we took all their good scientists and now all they have are faggots and communists

Pretty much luck. There WILL be another large scale accident, it's really just statistics.

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>likely
>assumed
>all determined by the fucks trying to sell the windmills
How underage are you?

>not sustainable
Opposite of what the world needs.

keep buying french power you stupid piece of shit

My wife says you should fuck off and get over it

>Not sustainable
>Wind and solar energy
Pick one

green energy sounds way cooler than flouride. this is my new favourite.

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>horrific image
>pretty out-there statements with no sources sited

Seems like propaganda to me

> Be me.
> Be nuclear power plant.
> Have extendible 80+ year life span.
> Cost only 4-6B more than coal and oil but last far longer and cost fuck all to run beyond 30 years.
> Smart white dudes find out that I can also use MSR which is the ultimate fission reaction.
> Super safe. Super cheap. Super Common. Can sell my waste as baby formula.

MFW pollies and faggots in this thread think this its a shit idea and can't think beyond two years into the future

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Retard, nuclear energy is our best way of providing energy, it's safe and has a lot of potential.

>most nuclear power plants were built in the 1960ies and 1970ies
so build new ones
>new plants are still based on the same ancient designs
so build new ones
>80 years old '''''high technology'''''
so build new ones
>even if they're viable they'd be too expensive
so build new ones
>generating all electricity with NPPs would mean INES 7 incidents every 2 years
then why not supply electricity with nuclear and shale, supplemented by wind, solar and all of the above

>renewables meme
Kek, the cost to store 1 MWh of wind and solar energy is $360,000 and this cost will always increase.

there is a finite amount of air on earth, windmills are not sutainable

also, this is a pretty sloppy way of trying to save face after all your emissions went up after banning nuclear

Vermont Yankee isn't even open anymore, white faggot leftists shut it down.

it is stored in old underground abandoned mines that are far away enough from underground waters so the earth itself can compensate the radiation

what's not sustainable?
putting nuclear waste under a mountain so it wont leech into your tap water?

What innovation? Why isn't Bill Gates spending his own money to build one of his magic reactors?

4b happens only in China (and remeber, China is trying to sell reactors too to subsidize their nuke industry so these announcements are PR). Take a look at for real world costs

>and then after the grid fails to provide as promised, you guys can just have Russia build a pipeline to your doorstep

How do you store alternative energy? Renewables are simply energy farming, and that can't work for base load power.

Nuclear waste from power plants does leech you brainlet.

That is literally the shittest figure. No source and it doesn't have individual rows for different technologies.

Please elaborate more on what they do with the used radioactive rods?

What about launching waste into space is unsustainable? Space is theoretically infitnite.

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