At what age did you grow out of libertarianism?

NOT REGULATING THE ECONOMY HAS SO FAR WORKED FOR ME

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When I realized libertarianism can only work in a homogeneous nation and "live and let live" is a multiplayer game.

>Now in 2019 if you say "I'm a libertarian" people don't even think Ron Paul anymore (who was considered fucking extreme back when I remember him). They think "no government at all, complete anarchy, slavery is legal, private corporations will protect society from invasions" and other weird shit.
Think of it this way, back in the fucking 90s when I was growing up there was "the militia movement", which people like Alex Jones and Bill Cooper were heavily involved in. These people were organizing literal citizen armies and actually training for a potential civil war and government overthrow if things ever got so crazy or oppressive or tyrannical as they are now.
This wasn't really considered that crazy of a movement. It was highly supported by normies even. It was just considered "normal". Nevertheless, these people were absolute extremists by today's standards, and they openly talked about picking up arms and fighting back against the US government in organized, military strikes.

Even these people didn't believe in "no government" and "anarcho capitalism" or it's left-wing counterpart "anarcho communism" or anything else, or any of the stupid bullshit that you hear today. They just wanted the basic protections of the bill of rights and a sense of national sovereignty (against things like immigration). So even though like I said before they'd be absolute extremists by today's standards in a lot of ways, they'd also be considered pretty tame by today's standards in a lot of ways.

People have gotten far stupider, man.

Quads don't lie. Both components of this statement ring 100% true

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This. Natsoc is the only way to true freedom.

I still want it, but it can never work in a world where people would get guns for six months in their life and fight for an authoritarian dictatorship that gives niggers free shit.

A libertarian world can only exist with a high-IQ peoples.

Context behind why you chose these suggestions

Just my own personal journey of learning. I come from the days of like when it was a big deal to out the Bilderberg Group and I didn't know whether to believe what all these people were saying or not. I actually come from more of a Bob Chapman financial angle (where these same things re-emerge) but he's dead and if you want to get in to syndicalism, Tarpley and/or Estulin would be good sources of ways to build a historical framework against which to judge further research.

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I never sunk that low.

When Ron Paul lost.

20, it was fun while it lasted I guess

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I Never believed in it

Libertarianism is a utopian ideal compared to the nightmare I want to unleash now.

14 when I realized big businesses are immoral

As an ideal philosophy, never. As a means of enacting positive political change, Charlottesville.

in 2016

Fuck you conservitard.

When I was 14, I checked some books out of the library so I could write a paper about anti-trust laws.

Like 17

grow upgrow up too

Around the age of 20 back in 2009-2012. I was a huge fan of Ron Paul and was very disillusioned with the Republican party by 2008. Though over time as i met other libertarians and saw what King Nigger was doing to our country, I knew they had no chance whatsoever. Most fellow Libertarians were Liberals but with the notion that kike corporations can run amok with no care in the world. In other words they no moral compass. Libertarianism can't work unless the civilization is homogeneous.

about a year ago

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When I came to Jow Forums and learned about the Jweish threat.

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Anti trust laws are almost mythical now

this

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I know, right? And yet almost nobody talks about this very obvious pre-existing way to deal with monopolies and cartels that are running amok. You'd think at least all the neo-commies would mention this, but apparently they just love to be corporate slaves.

Fuck nazi larpers your fascist dogshit is just rebranded communism.

>t. political illiterate
It's ok lad, you'll learn. A lot of us we're also retarded lolbergs once.

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Never. Liberty is the only way of life. Just like MGTOW. It's absolute freedom to decide what I want to do and what I don't want to do. Libertarians know there's a price for everything. It's a simple rule you can apply to literally every decision you want to make. Knowing there's always gonna be a price that's going to be paid opens up options. Libertarians stand for options. And having options.... well, that's total and absolute freedom.

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>hey guys what if we had our economy state run
>hey guys what if we didn't allow our civilians guns
>hey guys what if we used high taxes to fund tons of government programs
>hey guys what if we put a bunch of red tape on industries and forced them to operate how we decide

Whoa, it's like it's Communism. Mussolini invented Fascism ebcause the popular kids kicked him out of the Commie club. Hitler adopted it because he needed a friend, and Dictatorships are great for going to war and exploiting your populace.

When I realized they have a lot in common with anarchists

>hey guys what if we had our economy state run
not all of it, and it's better than letting international corporations rape our country
>hey guys what if we didn't allow our civilians guns
didn't happen, stop getting your information from Steven Crowder. The only "gun restriction" the Reich passed was against Jews, he LOOSENED restrictions on German citizens.
>hey guys what if we used high taxes to fund tons of government programs
Kek, they had a lower tax rate than America or Britain EVER had.
>hey guys what if we put a bunch of red tape on industries and forced them to operate how we decide
Sorry we don't want big corporations to be able to do whatever the fuck they want to. The only difference between the red tape we have now and the red tape the nazis had is that their's was enacted to benefit the populace whereas ours is put in place to benefit the multinationals.

>whoa it's like communism
no, it's not. First of all, because of the reasons I explained above. Secondly, you meant to say "it's like socialism", which is also wrong because the NSDAP never claimed to (or tried to) abolish private property. A quick google search might help you learn the definitions of basic terms.

>Mussolini invented Fascism ebcause the popular kids kicked him out of the Commie club
No, it's because his political views evolved. Just because you can't conceive of growing up, doesn't mean we all share the same delusions.

>Dictatorships are great for going to war and exploiting your populace.
Says the American as his country prepares for interventions in Iran & Venezuela while paying higher taxes to pay for the privilege of being invaded.

See what I mean about "political illiteracy"? It's okay though, I was just like you once. Thankfully all it takes to grow out of this little phase you're in is a little research and honest self-reflection (unless you're a shitskin, in which case you need to go back). Good luck!

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government always grows, liberties are always taken away, day by day we get closer to world government and perfect surveillance apparatus soon you will not be able to fart without world controller knowing about it and nobody gives a fuck. every fucking day it's 1 more law that prevents you from jumping off a sidewalk on tuesdays and nobody cares 'cause "it's not a big deal" and then one day you find yourself surrounded by niggers controlled by some kike in a smartphone and you find yourself in the machine and you know there's no getting out. fuck this shit.

Unfortunately, little commie boy. I'm not going to fall for your tricks.

Socialism
Communism
"Democratic Socialism"
"People's" "Democracy"
Fascism
National Socialism

They're ALL the same shit. A great leader takes over, the country has some momentary prosperity off the back of other people, (In Nazi Germany they were able to fund their campaign through mass expansion and the resources taken from countries occupied.)

But no matter how great the leader is, no matter how great the country gets for a short period of time, eventually someone bad gets into power and ruins everything, or you run out of things to steal that allow you to continue your government programs, and military state.

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this is ontologically retarded

>facts = tricks
kek, whatever you say nutjob

>all these things are the same because I said so!
"no"

>hurr, we ganged up on Germany and blew it up, that PROVES their system of government was flawed
"no"

>that pic
Why are you proud of something so pathetic? A spic woman who doesn't speak a word of English can run across a line in the desert and shit out a "fellow American" right this second. Our troops fight and die for foreign kikes. Being "proud" of being an American™ is retarded.

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not really

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I'm against the socialist fuckwit policies we have here in America too. I wouldn't be fine with them just because they're treating some junkie white kid instead of some junkie black kid.

Das rite!

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>regulation and state doing stuff is socialism
just lol

kek, you don't even know what socialism means brainlet. International capitalism (what you support) and international socialism are two sides of the same shekel. Globalist, jew-loving, immigrant worshipping, materialist trash.

You're so blindly loyal that even hearing facts that contradict your argument means nothing to you. Nope, Germany had high taxes, no guns, and tons of red-tape all because YOU said so. You are the perfect sheep.

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99% of ancaps/lolbergs are politically illiterate. To be fair, our education system has really gone down the shitter, so it's not TOTALLY his fault.

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"The German government instead funded much of its military effort through plunder, especially plundering the wealth of Jewish citizens and the like, both at home and in the conquered territories.[110]"

As I said, eventually you run out of things you can steal. They just chose to steal from the rich jews instead of their citizens, and didn't have enough time to run out of money. But sure, I'm positive they'd have enough money to do all of their programs forever.

I’ve never been a full lolbert because the party is a fucking joke and I believe that some government is fine.

You only hate libertarianism because of NAP since in these times we need to literally fight our enemies

You don't grow out of the truth

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ahahahha 14

>taking money and plundering
>nationalize industry
.......

Tis the story of duality itself...

Perhaps in this 3D world it’s not possible.

But consider the following. If one works out to better themselves, can they “beat” the gym? Can you lift “all” the weight? No it’s impossible, it’s not tangible. However you can be the best out of everyone, you can be the strongest, the one who can run furthest/fastest etc...

What happens if you have a shitty meal, skip training etc... you are now moving in the opposite direction, you are further from your goal.

Individual freedom must always be the goal and the pinnacle of experience.

However don’t kid yourself, the state will never solve the problem of the state. Also, those players who depend on that funding will never go backwards.

So essentially, everything is an oxymoron. There is no real freedom. It’s a myth. There’s degrees, but the military will always be in full control.

So we dick around in the middle to make people feel good.

It’s too bad hypocrisy isn’t a logical fallacy.

So fuck other people, because you’ll never change their mind anyway. Make money and make yourself and loved ones comfortable.

probaly around the time ron paul lost

Yes. Funding their government programs with other people's shit, taking control of the means of production, and the political party in charge ruling with military might.

Hmm, sounds to me like Communism. But I'm just an illiterate retard.

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I never "really" but I realize it's fucking impossible if the society is multiracial. You never see anybody but fellow whites who advocate classical liberal values, one or two "Based" boomer black libertarian men are like finding unicorns and it's a waste of time trying to pander to them or eve worse, convert liberal niggers.

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>"The German government instead funded much of its military effort through plunder, especially plundering the wealth of Jewish citizens and the like, both at home and in the conquered territories.[110]"
(1) how about a source? ("110" is not a source)
(2) this demonstrates your historical illiteracy & obvious biases, when Germany takes spoils of war it's "plunder" but when the Allies & Jews do it, it's just "spoils" or "reparations".

>But sure, I'm positive they'd have enough money to do all of their programs forever.
Did you even read the fucking tripe you posted? It says nothing about "funding programs", the """"plunder"""" went to the military, not to the social programs. You have this warped view of social programs because we live in a non-white shithole country where "programs" is just a pseudonym for giving the invaders free stuff. A normal healthy nation has a safety net for it's OWN people. That's one of the major things that separates us from the savages.

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>educational system down the shitter
>state run system
>politically illiterate
Maybe reread your own post champ

>But I'm just an illiterate retard.
well, at least you're willing to admit it finally

>safety net
The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Same here, you fuck over Romney too?

Is it though?

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funding goverment programs with money is not socialim that would made the feudal europe as socialist
and controling means of production for elite to

It has, actually. The autism of media networks and tech companies almost directly funds his show.

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Our education isn't bad BECAUSE it is state run, it is bad because our current state is our enemy and because our schools are filled with subhumans. National socialism has the answer, to remove the subversives from our government and education systems, your answer is "hurr let's privatize it, ensuring that the next generation in our country is properly educated and capable of building upon our society in exchange for a tiny portion of our income is STOOOPID COMMUNISM LOL"

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>how about a source
Wikipedia [110] on Nazi Germany's Economy, the same article you quoted in your taxes post. It's fine if you want to play make-believe and assume that Germany magically had infinite government funding despite low taxes and no plundering of private property, but that's a fairy tale.

Even the fucking pilgrims first coming to America tried the safety net shit and soon found out how terrible it is. People scam the system. Fuck your commie shit.

Do you even fucking know what you're talking about? Feudal Europe -was- Commie/Socialist as fuck. The Monarchy had absolute authority, killed political dissenters, owned all of the land and forced the people being allowed to live there to pay high taxes to exist.

Serfs exist, retard.

You'll probably get to hell quicker if you leave your own people to die in the streets because your too fucking stingey/jewey to do your part.

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YOU'RE too fucking stupid to even know the English language.

Not when he lost, but when the media showed their true face against him. He had a massive grassroots following like Bernie, without any of the media fanfare

Never fell for it. There's only two, sides right and wrong, moral and immoral. Sitting in the middle staying neutral thinking "Muh live and let live" only leads to social decay. Also (((multicultural society))) won't allow it to work. Just look at modern Police Department's fitted for urban warfare. And this is coming from a Midwest "Latino".

>It's fine if you want to play make-believe and assume that Germany magically had infinite government funding despite low taxes and no plundering of private property, but that's a fairy tale.
Straw-man much?

>muh pilgrims story
Ah, so you DO get your info from Crowder.

> Feudal Europe -was- Commie/Socialist as fuck.
Kek, I partially want you to stop because this is so annoyingly wrong, but I also want you to continue because you're redpilling so many lurkers on just how retarded the average lolberg is.

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It's insane open borders:
Import Mexican socialists=capitalist utopia.
Drug fiends like McAfee and Johnson.
The answer to everything is "muh freedom".

>straw-man much?
Okay, where did Germany get the money to fund it's government programs and war efforts from if not from plunder or taxes?

>You get your info from crowder
Not an argument.

>Annoyingly wrong
>Political party leads country through military might.
>Owns the means of production.
>Civilians pay exorbitant taxes while the higher ups live in wealth

Okay where am I wrong?

Fallacy-fallacy much?

>Lower income tax than Americans ever had
>America existed in the 1800s
>No income tax
End yourself, nazi scum.

No, I think you are just too stupid to understand the difference between rule by force and rule by consent.

>state run educational system
>state is the enemy
No true Scotsman
>do your part
>for the government
Yeah that's gonna fix it

>implying libertarianism is necessary for that to become to reality.

I agree it isn't, but the movement was easily subverted by the open border Soros crowd.

This is boomer tier shit right here

Nazi larper go home.

>Memeflagging
We see you

>Okay, where did Germany get the money to fund it's government programs and war efforts from if not from plunder or taxes?
Why must you constantly oversimplify/misrepresent & ignore my arguments?

Social programs were paid for by the productive output of the people (taxes).The US takes our taxes and lines the pockets of the rich and the nonwhite invaders, Germany used their tax revenue to pay for social programs that helped Germans. See the difference? Just because you're a stingy kike who won't do his part for his people doesn't mean the rest of us (who think long-term) are.

Also, you seem to be under the impression that the German state "paid for everything", they didn't.

The war was paid for by both seized property & taxes. Exactly the same way the US army is funded. "Plunder" (or ""spreading democracy and free markets"" when the US does it) is part of life.

>crowder not an argument
Yeah it is, you get your information from a moron who lies constantly.

>where am I wrong
Everywhere.

Aparrently never since I still test as one according to that political compass test

Yeah that is one of only a few faults.

Okay so.
>gibsmedat bcuz i a wite boi fuk dem darky negroes

Epic. But your own shit nazi scum.