Does Jow Forums support free speech?

>>jews are our friends and heres why
>>trump should be impeached heres why
>>its okay to be gay
these are fine by me you can say whatever you want as long as you say this in magadascar where jews, niggers and fags will be deported

Pol is free speech you fucking kike shill nigger. Stop clogging up the forum with your dumb bullshit. What could anyone here other than the mods do to limit your free speech? Other than single motherhood and the jq. Internet censorship is one of the biggest threats to human civil rights that there is.

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That's already being said everywhere.
Saying the opposite is what's being suppressed.
What rock have you been under?

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Agreed.

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>it's cowardly to not allow people to call for your race to be destroyed
Found the teenage libertarian moron.

You have every right to suck circumcised dick and worship the Jew
You also have to accept that people will criticize you for your beliefs

102% with a 2% chance of doubt.

>would people still be able speak freely?
Sure. The only limits would be slander or libel, state secrets, confidential information, malicious harm (telling someone something is safe when it is not and you know it, like a machine is turned off when it's not), and time of day quality of life limits on being disruptive.

Of course.
The left is trying to control what people can say and cannot say because people are starting to see trough their shit. Journalism has been replaced by activism and is mostly leftist and those wannabe journalists are advocating for censorship, which still boggles my mind when I think about it. The deplatforming of rightwing viewpoints on social media is constant, various "words can be violence", "free speech doesn't include hate (anything I dont want to hear ) speech" campaigns, "punch a nazi", "milkshake a nazi".
They're losing and they know it, and they believe that suppressing resistance will somehow keep their status quo.

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Just hearing about your perception being fucked sideways isn't going to convince anyone. You're only preaching to the choir

Name one organised campaign (like I mentioned in my post before) from right to suppress voices from left.

>would people still be able speak freely?
not in zones of the cities which are supposed to be quite, auditory pollution is a disgrace

Wtf I love ZDF now

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Yeah, sure, just expect to be shit on for it and corrected by the people who disagree with you, you won't be able to shut us up and lock us up for countering your degenerate propaganda. People won't silently take your leftist degenerate propaganda in fear of being ostracised, fired or jailed.
And expect to be punched for it in the teeth if you come with that shit to the kids in school or kindergarden.

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I don't get the concept of free speech.

Why should it be allowed to say whatever you want? To insult, to defame, to agitate for violent actions... why the support for this kind of anarchy?

It's not an anarchy because they're still limitations for example threatening someone's life

Absolutely. People should be free to discuss what they want so long as it’s not a direct call to violence. Libel should be punished in civil court.

Nice try kike.

Fuck yourself with a rake.

>I'm not taking any of your pills unless they include free speech.
Reddit is that way --->

No, libertarian Jow Forums is dead

This is kiddies/redditor/nazifag territory now, and they are low IQ. Freedom of speech is a concept from high IQ societies and individuals, who also have lower levels of violence and coercion

>Infowars b&across all platforms
>right-wing rallies attacked
>100+ milkshake threads yesterday
>punch a nazi
>Twitter shadowbanning or outright banning conservatives
>Youtube demonitizing or canceling conservatives
>Google modifying search algorithms to hide results
>Covington kids slandered by every major media outlet beside (((Fox)))
>Brett Kavanaugh called a literal rapist by the same news outlets with no evidence
>people losing their jobs because they disagreed with someone on the internet
Seems pretty one-sided to me.
And before you trot out the "free market/private business" argument, remember it was the left who wanted to force a bakery to bake a gay wedding cake.
Not a muslim bakery though, that would be insensitive.

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the freedom to speak your mind is of utmost importance because it makes it super easy to find the degenerate traitors
>"jews are our friends and here's why..."
>*gunshot*
problem solved, god I love free speech

Well then it isn't free speech anymore.

there're instances where an ideological battle isn't won by surpassing logical analysis but through subversive oversaturation of the concept you want to spread
think about how people are being literally brainwashed into the globohomo agenda for example, in a world of complete and unconstrained free speech, schools, streets, and all other places which aren't normally a place of discussion will become places of indoctrination
>but if you restrict free speech you're just like them
the problem of restricting free speech is not just restricting which kind of speech is acceptable but also having the monopoly of the main areas where discussion is supposed to take place to enforce the restriction

I think leaving the main areas free for every kind of speech and restricting the others is a more controllable situation than letting free speech completely free everywhere, and at the same time more intellectualy honest and equal for the opposition than it is now

Threatening someone's life isn't part of a discussion. It's just degeneracy from an animalistic violent mind

Agreed.

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I'm still waiting, cunt.
Meanwhile, here are lefties advocating for "brick a nazi" campagin.

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And then you have the other side that actually follows through and shoots up church is full of people instead of just talking about it

Ofc, but 'free speech' includes insults and hate. Everyone can voice their opinion here, no one is silenced. You may be called nigger or a faggot from time to time, but it is their freedom.

Yeah, but what is free speech then?

Random edgy people on TV insulting and defaming other people 24/7... how is that different from threatening other peoples life?

I just don't get the Western concept of freedom. I get the feeling it means "do whatever you want".

>To insult, to defame, to agitate for violent actions
If you're not able to insult or defame those who are in power, then how do you ever create change?

After reading that paragraph there's nothing that's going to unfuck your perception. It doesn't matter if I have a thousand groups as examples. You're always going to hate liberals

I think my feelings about what free speech is all about is pretty much

In my ideal world pepple should be free to say that 9/11 was an inside job, that JFK is the greatest US president, that Hitler was not a jew, that kids love gangbangs with dolphins. What they would not be allowed to do is to vote.

You don't say?

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all these people saying no in some capacity- these are the people you want nowhere near power. There is little difference between Stalin and Hitler and ideology means nothing confronted with real world organization and command structures. What matters is how regulated various markets and information is.

So all these people that want information closely controlled in some way or other, they will try to control every aspect of your existence and their views are myopic.

Well this is for sure, but it doesn't matter the content of their speak.

this

>I selectively address points I can use, while pointedly ignoring anything that refutes my stated positition
Pathetic.

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Yeah, but who defines "those in power"?

A lot of people claim Americans and Trump supporters are the elites, as well as Russian hackers. How much of this is true?

"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." -plato

My ideas are correct so im not scared of people speaking freely.
If they debate our ideas they lose
If they do some cuck shit we will expose them

Oh hey look, it's those two fat lesbians who tried to ram the presidential motorcade.

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>muh free speech
Literally the source of degeneracy that Jews use to poison our societies
You've been smoking the retarded "muh liberty" meme that every American always falls prey to, which there is nothing wrong with as long as we live in a society of whites. Our laws, our traditions, our customs, all of them would work 100% as intended if we weren't trying so hard to include uneducated worthless niggers into it.

By the way the right to vote used to only be available to white men who owned land. Just because you have the right to speak your mind, doesn't actually mean your opinion is considered as equal as the Congressman preaching "free speech" as he actually legislates against it

>How much of this is true?
Replace "Russian" with "israelis" and you're on point

People should be free to say what they want, no matter what.

Agreed but,
Freedom of Speech =/= Freedom of Consequences

I think free speech in the POLITICAL sphere is a good thing.
Any statement (in the sense of words spoken or printed) that promotes or demotes a political idea should be allowed.

But it doesn't mean freedom to broadcast degenerate television/pornography/etc.

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Currently you have people that are being silenced, which allows the media and politicians to lie constantly. You have people that are being attacked for exercising their first amendment rights. Once you've moved to the point where speech is met with action (censorship or physical violence), not only have you morally justified 2A, you've forced 2A. At this point, you don't have a 2A right, you have a 2A duty, yet no one answers this call of duty. So stop worrying about 1A. It's dead. The censorship will only get worse, and the violence will only get worse.

"Ask for yourself only duties, and then you will regain your rights".

Broadcasting should be allowed because no one's forced to tune in

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fpbp
hating someone doesn't mean you prevent them from expressing their opinions, unless you're a journalist or a lefty

>213799992

go shove your glowing honey pot up your ass.
not even giving you a u

I mean I support ethno states. Essentially the Balkanization of the US. I support it all essentially. If some people want to be multicultural and lots of places want free speech I support that. I don’t really care what other people do. I know I want to live around white people, not because I hate anyone else just because it’s easier and I have enough shit to deal with.

"Insulting" is meaningless, only hurts feelings, and allows legal punishment based on who holds narrative control and can astroturf or brainwash normalcy into "insulting." Even "defaming" is dangerous. Look at the contortions of the media to call Trump a liar for describing the surveillance conducted on him by the Obama FBI as "spying" when that is the term in general use for that conduct. Anyone else would have folded and anyone without wealth to defend himself could be easily silenced by lawsuits on this basis even where it's only civilly actionable. Criminally? You should be able to see the harm.

Have you forgotten the boomer who tried to shoot up congressman at a baseball field and was put down by security? The edgy lefty who shot up a rural church and was put down by an armed parishioner?

You implied in you're very first post that Jow Forums is anti-free speech while the left is not.
Do you stand by that or are you going to dance around the issue.
Plenty of evidence to the contrary has been posted, so let's see if you have the courage of you're convictions.

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They banned freedom of association with the civil rights act. If integration was so good they wouldn’t have had to force it at gunpoint. If multiculturalism was so good they wouldn’t have to enforce it with a totalitarian propaganda and police state.

so, faggot op? are you going to answer my post?

Not to kids. Content designed for kids should be subject to strict censorship because kids are not capable of applying healthy skepticism to media.

Yeah, only the truly enlightened support the rights of niggers and kikes to openly plot violence and replacement of whites. You showed me.

BS red herring. Free speech and free expression are a cornerstone of civilized society. Direct calls to violence are antithetical to free speech because they directly employ violence instead of speech.

Free speech was meant to be political. Pushing degeneracy isn’t free speech, it’s just pushing degeneracy. As long as it’s not obscene, free speech is good and healthy.

Alright two things. 1 the implication was justified based on the responses we're seeing here. 2 I've never said here once that the left is a free speech Utopia. That doesn't magically make the right correct

People aren't rational agents. The idea that every choice should be permitted is a lie. It's bad for society, and bad for the people.

An analogie is drugs. Of course people choose whether or not to use drugs, but you still recognize that there is a thing called addiction. Even though the addict IS choosing to imbibe his drug of choice, we shouldn't let him choose that.
Just because people like something doesn't mean it's good for them, or good for society.

It makes sense to make an exception in the case of political speech because it is even more important that people be able to know what other people are thinking in this domain.

This is probably the last place where free speech exists. Every other place implemented that retarded ratings system with thumbs up and down for comments

Free speech is just a scheme for anti-Christian speech. Free trade is a scheme for globalism and immigration. OP and minds like him are homosexual.

That's so fucked up. What makes your political views more important than others

I don't hate this place. I think people should be allowed to voice that they don't like free speech. At least we can have a discussion about it because they're not in power

Yeah.

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Libertarians need to read Hoppe:

"No such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists...One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very purpose of the covenant of preserving and protecting private property...In a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order."

>the implication was justified based on the responses we're seeing here
In what way? Most of the replies are pro free-speech, and even those that aren't for it 100% are for it with conditions. Juxtapose that with the ample evidence presented that the left will resort to violence to suppress it entirely.
You lost, and you will continue to do so because ideas are bulletproof.

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No as it’s the reason we’re in this mess, if the great powers of the 18th and 19th century had shot every pseudo-intellectual enlightenment thinker we wouldn’t be in this mess.

free speech is for whites only, faggot.

Your 'liberal violence' high horse is rotting and festering

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Free speech isn't real. If you say anything "offensive" you'll lose your job and the diversity commissars will destroy your career. The only way free speech could ever actually exist is in a homogeneous white patriarchal society

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You're changing the topic from legal restrictions 2 cultural restrictions. We're talkin about jail time not a lost job

>pretends to want an impartial discussion
>posts outliers to support his real agenda
Just be honest that you're a lefty and don't want anyone countering your narrative.
Then at least you'll have a little integrity.

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>posts outliers to support his real agenda
Isn't that the name of the game here? How would you describe your posts then?

>What makes your political views more important than others

Huh? Read it again. I am advocating that EVERYONE should have free speech when it comes to political views.

I could go on for over a thousand posts with unique examples of lefty censorship and violence from the last 2 years alone.
You have used 2.
You also dodge addressing the main point, which is Jow Forums is a greater platform for free speech than anything else.
You haven't done anything to refute this, but try to play semantics games like you did here
You got BFTFO repeatedly by multiple anons and the thread isn't even at 100 posts yet.
Here you have the freedom to post stupid shit (and you have been), so maybe you should enjoy it while it lasts.
In any case, I'm done entertaining your disingenuous notions about why you're here.
Enjoy that inevitable last word.

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