My gf is a slut and it kills me slowly

>Be me, just graduated college.
>Decide to go to Thailand for 2 months because fuck it.
>Meet a girl on the first day and really hit it off.
>Worried she’s a whore because Thailand. She’s just a spoiled college girl.
>Spend everyday with her fall in love.
>Ask her how many guys she has been with before me.
>She says 5 ex boyfriends that’s it.
>I leave after two months and she promised to wait for me to come back.
>Calls me 2 to 3 times a day while I’m gone.
>Come back 2 months later with a job and she asks me to meet her parents. Tells me she is very serious about me.
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>The day before I meet her parents I ask her how many guys she’s been with before.
>Always suspicious of her first answer.
>She once told me there is something about her past I shouldn’t know about. Something she hates herself for.
>She tells me it’s actually 25
>Feel like I want to die. Normally not such a pussy but really care about this girl.
>She cries for the better part of an 30 minutes. Asking me not to change telling me it was a long time ago.
>I still love her so I tell her it’s ok I’ll just try to forget about it even though it hurts.
>Every time I look at her it’s different. Can’t stop thinking about 25 dicks plowing her.
>Meet her parents and fake everything. Want to jump off a cliff the whole time.
>Her grandpa thinks I’m her first boyfriend.
>She tells me that makes her want to cry again.
>It’s the morning after and I still don’t know what to do.

Well guys idk I still love her and she’s still the same girl. But right now it’s I can’t even look at her without feeling like shit. I know this doesn’t bother some guys but it’s sort of hard for me. Wwyd?

if you feel that bad it's not going to get better. If you like her break it off but gently

How long are you in Thailand this time?

This may, or may not, be a dealbreaker for you. Either way you should make a clearheaded decision. You're hurt and confused right now. Give it time before making a decision, even if it's just internally. Talk about it with her, without tears.

most guys feel this way, it's an instinct. some get over it some dont. if it causes you to resent her and treat her badly then youre better off breaking up now. if it's any consolation 25 is not that high for a western woman. i know women that have literally lost count past 50+

Man, let me tell you something, OP.

We are people.
You were with this girl when you found out it was just 5. Honestly, what has changed now that you found out it was 20 more?

You fucked her before, right? You cared for her, right? Now mentally you just know it's 25 instead of 5.

If she's crying over you like this, she obviously cares about you. She's off the cock carousel and is trying something real.

It's up to you if you want to continue it, though. Just know that you'll put a burden on her for the rest of her life by leaving her over this. I feel bad for the next guy because she obviously won't tell him.

People don't realize that their decisions impacts others lives.

I got a job this time so it’s long term. The contract is about a year with the possibility of extending. I’m giving it sometime I’d feel wrong if i just left her. I kind of get the feeling she would become worse without me. I’m pretty sure she only acted like that because her first serious relationship ended badly. She told me the guy cheated on her. I guess she felt like she didn’t have any worth or something. Idk it’s difficult. Feel like I’m not sure if I can trust her. Thanks for the reply it helps clear the mind a bit.

No offense but are you trying to make OP feel worse? This post is completely retarded and shows a severe misunderstanding of how a man might think, to the point where I can only assume you're not a man.

I know there are way worse cases out there. I don’t resent her. I want to do what’s right with her in mind but it just hurts a lot right now. Just feels like there is no way I could be special to her in that way. Maybe I’m wrong.

I’m giving it sometime but yeah this is what I’m scared of. I want to be with her but I’m afraid it won’t get better.

I honestly debated to put "I'm a guy, btw" in that post.

I know what men think. I know how it must feel to know that you're with someone that sucked 27 dicks in a row. But I've also learned some things along the way of life.

You could think it's gross, but at the end of the day, people are people.

>>Ask her how many guys she has been with before me.
Okay but why though

Oh no no no we are not getting into this

It's a simple question like you hadn't even been dating this girl for a month or whatever before you asked her one of the most intimate questions ever

So you’re saying it just shouldn’t matter? What if it was like 1000 would it matter then? As long as she is trying for something serious now it’s ok? I understand it’ll hurt her if I leave her over this. I’m scared she might hop right back on the carousel. I just wonder how I can let it go. Do you think a women like that is capable of something serious? In a sense you’re right she is still the same girl. But idk everything feels a little off now. Thanks for the response.

You’re asking us but I don’t care how many guys your girl fucked. Can you live with it? That’s the only thing that matters.

Considering the importance of the involvement, as a partner i'm owed to no how easily you tend to give and take back affection from other people. If in 2 years you went with let's say 20 men, why would i trust loving you like you were the girl of my life? What makes me different from the guys before me who were promised the very same things? Well one thing you could do to better your position is be honest about it and understand my concerns.

Yeah I noticed that right off the bat too. Why would you ask her that over and over again within just a couple of months. Not the type of questions I'd ask if I were just starting to date someone. Do you guys actually do this? Reeks of insecurity.

Also I'd be more upset by the idea that she chose to lie from the start, not that she's been with more than 5 guys if I were OP.

holy projection

This. If my partner had fucked over 100 men I wouldn't ask about it because that would be insecure.

Dude, it's science. The more partners you have, the less your bonds will be perceived as significant. It's not like i wouldn't give you a chance just because of that. But it's not something to just ignore

I'm saying it's really up to how you feel.

She's the same girl, man. You're lucky number 26 or 1001.

Or you could find someone else and they'd probably lie about the number of partners they've been with. It's just a way of life. At least you know how many she's had.

If you had a favorite porn star and had the opportunity to have sex with her, would you?

not him but no I wouldn't. As a horny 15 year old teen I would say yes but now I want sex with a connection.

Yeah we did sort of move fast I think. But it is important to me so I’d thought I’d ask her. I suppose if this is something I’m gonna have a problem with I figured I should ask early instead of having a problem way later on. She told me she wanted something serious so that’s what I’m trying to do. She did also ask me the same question and even got sort of angry at me even though my number is much smaller. Maybe we’re both insecure in that way I’m not sure.

Well then you two deserve each other. Both jealous low-quality human beings who get insecure about how many past partners the other has had, even though in reality none of it fucking matters.

OP, you have to realize that this board has a good amount of shameless sluts, which you can already see in here pretending like it doesn't matter, when in fact your own gf cares about it enough to cry about.

It just depends on whether you think she's finally found her soul mate on the 26th attempt, or that the past resembles the future and whatever it was that caused her to go through 25 guys is going to happen to you as well. You obviously know her better than anyone here does so it's your call.

You fucking retard.

Girls/people in poor environments/poor households do not have the luxury of upholding moral ideals. Lack of economic cushion or safety is one of the main reasons why people have to do shitty things from time to time to survive or prosper. Especially if they are children, since they do not have the experience or strength of character that takes years/decades to develop and nurture to select for the goodness of a moral life at the cost of short or intermediate term suffering.

It would have been great had you met her when she was 19 and helped her through difficult times, or 16 when she was first starting to notice her feelings for the other sex. But life does not work that way, and many times the weight of the indifference of life crushes those long before they have the strength to resist.

It is not fair, it is not good. Did you look at the circumstances surrounding why she chose to find solace in the arms of other men? Maybe her parents were shit or had to work 12-15 hour days and did not have time to guide her properly.

I am not trying to make excuses for her. In fact I am a pretty big misogynist myself. But I do understand poverty and the unreasonable expectations people place on people in unreasonable circumstances. Most of the time people expect others to be molded from marble and iron and treat them accordingly, when actually all mankind is just some form of clay. The problems arise when people treat others and expect others to be as they wish them to be rather than what they actually are.

Never forget what people are and you would not be having these problems. Never forget what women are, or men are (for there is a difference). You will know when you forget when you start having these problems again.

Right now no I probably wouldn’t fuck my favorite porn star. I honestly wish it was that easy for me. That I could just be lucky number 1001 and be ok. I do sort of get this feeling that I could do better. But maybe you’re right maybe the next girl will have the same issue.

We are low quality because we want something to be special? Ok if you say so that’s your opinion.

>Girls/people in poor environments/poor households
Did you miss the "spoiled college girl" part?

In fact everything you said is the complete opposite. In poor countries, women vehemently stick to 1 guy for security. The more prosperous the country, the more likely they can ride the cock carousel.

>Dude, it's science
Is it? Or is it that one jpeg that gets passed around r9k all the time

>In poor countries, women vehemently stick to 1 guy for security.
Citation needed

Before any of that it's common sense. Every culture has historically looked down on sluts. It's only in modern western countries where 'pro-slut' propaganda exists.

Didn't mean to quote your post

>I don't have to provide citation for my claim, but your refutation requires citation
I'm not going to spoonfeed you something that most sane people realize by default. Let me guess, you also think women are equally as strong as men?

Oh so it got downgraded from science to just "common sense" now huh that was fast

I'm a different poster.

>you in charge of reading comprehension
>you in charge of basic logic
Everyone knows that the sky is blue, and science takes it further to explain exactly why it's blue. You're genuinely retarded for not knowing the difference.

So you don't have any proof of what you were saying that bonds are less significant with the more partners you have

As a dude who went to college from a poor background, you can be surprised how many loans a poor family can take from a bank to appear rich. This is speaking from my personal experiences regarding finances, loans, and poverty.

I was trying to say that there may have been extenuating circumstances, such as a lack of parental involvement, or other factor such as poverty, which could have caused this problem. I had assumed that since she was from Thailand that this was the case.

But OP, i hate to say this, you need to go do research and hit the dirt and make a decision that you and you alone are responsible for. We do not know this girl aside from 10 short sentences about this situation, and seeking for advice in this manner like this is a recipe for disaster. You are abrogating your responsibility for choosing the direction of your life onto others so in case something does go wrong you can at least salvage your ego by saying that it wasn't technically you that made the decision, you were just misled.

Really, sit down and think about this like you were going to write a 15-20 page thesis on trying to prove why this is a good/not good idea to stay with her. You've been doing this for 20+ years in school, and if school should have taught you anything it is how to logically analyze a situation to find the truth, or argue a point with enough facts.

You're just going to dismiss it anyway though.

Again, people have always inherently known that being a slut is a bad thing, and science merely quantifies it in a neat graph. 'Pro-slut' brainwashing is only a relatively recent phenomenon.

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Do you somehow not know about spoiled rich white american party girls? Poverty has an inverse correlation with slutty behavior, because even women inherently know that guys prefer not to marry sluts (which is why OP's gf started crying) and women in poor countries are discriminated against so they rely on having a husband, whereas rich girls can slut around because there's a lot higher chance for them to marry a guy due to her family's wealth.

And what exactly are you implying? That the less partners you have, the more legitimate and "special" a relationship is? You slimy retard. Go out for once instead of masturbating to your make-believe chinese cartoon girlfriends.

“It would have been great had you met her when she was 19 and helped her through difficult times, or 16 when she was first starting to notice her feelings for the other sex. But life does not work that way, and many times the weight of the indifference of life crushes those long before they have the strength to resist.” I actually really liked this answer it feels secure. To clarify more despite the poverty that exists in this country she did not grow up poor. Her family runs a business that is quite successful. She goes to one of the best colleges in the country. I believe she went through many men in an attempt to make up for what her first boyfriend did to her. He cheated on her. This bothered her so much she ended up moving towns. I’m not sure of all of the details but I’m sure it was this. She was very young at the time probably 15 or 16. I guess I have to think about whether or not this is a good reason for me. Maybe my expectations of women is unrealistic. I’ll be thinking about this. thanks.

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I think you’re projecting a bit much. Just because I prefer my girl to have less partners does not make me some sort of shut in or incel or whatever. Don’t see how it’s slimy

>You're just going to dismiss it anyway though.
Yup. There's that r9k jpg. It's only one survey and 20 years old. That's not how good science works.

There's another one but I don't have it saved, but I'll be sure to repost it often if I ever see it again.

In any case, it's still infinitely more convincing than what you have to offer, which is literally nothing.

Don't listen to her, she's just using this thread as an outlet to vent about how men don't want sluts like her because now she's desperate to 'settle' after riding the cock carousel.

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Ok I understand. I know it’s ultimately my decision I guess I just wanted to know if I’m the only one that thinks this way. Thanks for the response.

You can base your life on 20 year old misconstrued pseudo science if you want dude. The rest of us judge people for who they are and don't see them as numbers on a graph they found on Jow Forums.

You're the one projecting if you took my post personally enough to get offended and reply with some cringey passive aggressive response.
>Ok if you say so that’s your opinion.
Shut the fuck up, you little faggot.

Don't worry buddy no sluts are coming for you anytime soon your Japanese video games are safe.

I think me and you share the same thought process. If I knew earlier in the relationship I would have just brushed her off and moved on. But I love her a lot. I don’t want to hurt her. It’s easy to brush off a women as a slut and consider her a bad partner. But it’s hard to do so after you’ve grown attached.

You're definitely not the only one that thinks this way, in fact there are many who take that preference to the extreme, just as there are many who take the opposite stance to the extreme. You sound level-headed so I didn't want you to be influenced by the latter which seems to be dogpiling you in here.

Just think with your head and not your emotions. I'm going to assume you're white so there's also the possibility that she's racially fetishizing you (i.e. 'finally got a white guy after 25 guys so now I'll be serious'), so it would also depend on if you like that or if that's a turn-off.

To follow that up idk if those studies mean anything. Do the statistics really matter in such a personal situation?

>The rest of us judge people for who they are
And how do you do that? By their actions, of course, including being a slut. Stay in your bubble for all I care, I rest easy knowing that not everyone is as deluded as you are.

SIDF in full force tonight I see!

Well the statistics technically don't say "100% chance of failed relationship". You totally could be part of the % that are successful. But again, you're the only one who can make that call since you know the most about her and the sitation.

To me a slut isn't a girl who's had x amount of partners. She can have had 500 partners and it's fine as long as she didn't cheat on any of them. A girl who had one boyfriend but cheated on him is a slut on the other hand. The one with 700 partners is pure in comparison.

You literally fell for the first bar slut you met in Thailand and made it official with her within at least 2 months. You're going to have to try way harder to convince us that you arent some slimy shut in or look like some disgusting slimy shut in loser that jerks off to underage southeast asian girls.

>25 partners at college age
How many meaningful relationships do you think could have happened in that timeframe, as opposed to quick fucks?

I assume 23 of those were quick fucks. And it hurts.

>meaningful relationships at college age

Oh that's funny.

Good point. OP, why did you choose Thailand specifically?

Op here I’m going to go have breakfast with my girl. Thanks for everyone that has replied so for it helps me think. I’ll be back in a few. I’m not gonna mention this to her today. But maybe tomorrow.

Either or doesn't matter to me. Like I said the issue isn't in numbers. I guess autistic people only understand numbers and graphs lol

Fortunately not everyone is broken like you. I guess you slutted around for attention/validation because you never had any meaningful school friendships at the very least.

I know very well about that, i went to college and I had seen it firsthand.

I agree with the statistics the other user is saying, that increased partners decrease marriage fidelity. I have an uncle that lost his house and business to a cheating cunt and drank himself to death. I have a good grasp on the nature of women and the nature of people, and have developed a decent sense of how to maneuver around them. I am thoroughly and totally a pessimist of human nature, and i do not expect anything other than what I have seen.

I am trying to argue in these posts
Not that the girl he is dating is a slut, or a woman of virtue. Or that he is right or wrong to feel this way. What i am saying is that he needs first hard evidence, the kind that you can build a skyscraper on before he makes a decision. That he has to accept that the decision will be his and his alone. And that, from my experience on how shit life is, that THIS IS THE BEST HE MIGHT EVER GET, maybe get for a long ass time and he has to choose who he is and what his values are in line with what reality is.

Sure every guy wants a good virgin girl. Fuck, I want that. She is more likely to stay loyal given the statistics. More likely to have a good family, etc. I agree with that and would argue that every guy deserves it.

But what you deserve and what you get are two different things. And OP, you risk if you continue the relationship constant dread of cheating, as a person with multiple partners will statistically do.

Or she could be the kind of person who went through a sewer of shit and managed to get clean. That's why I argue, OP, hit the dirt and do the research, and whatever the research says you choose whether to follow or not.

Go to the redpill forums. Go to talk about marriage and coping with infidelity. Hell, hire a private eye and investigate her life if you feel the need to. I am saying that you do enough fact finding to own your decision.

That's because you're either a woman or a brainlet cuck, but that's your problem.

>Sure every guy wants a good virgin girl
I've had that before and no thanks. Why the hell would you willingly want to date a virgin?

She's either not gonna fuck you or do anything sexual, or you do have sex with her and now you're locked in that relationship for the foreseeable future cause if you break up with her it makes you the world's biggest asshole.

You have to be 18 and over to post here. You probably also think high school was/is the best time of your life

I don’t really feel like I need to prove anything but I’ll reply anyway. Thailand wasn’t actually specific. I wanted to go to Japan or China. Just Asia in general. I just finished my degree and felt like my life was going nowhere. Decided I wanted a big change and thought asia looked cool. One of my buddies was already going here to vacay and the tickets were quite cheap so said fuck it why not? So I guess maybe I am some sort of loser but not like you’re describing.

>if you had good friends in highschool then you're underage
Seething bitter lonely roastie.

Op here I’m going to go have breakfast with my girl. Thanks for everyone that has replied so for it helps me think. I’ll be back in a few. I’m not gonna mention this to her today. But maybe tomorrow.

>She's either not gonna fuck you or do anything sexual, or you do have sex with her and now you're locked in that relationship for the foreseeable future cause if you break up with her it makes you the world's biggest asshole.

Don't care about what other people think. People will criticize anything they see, regardless of hypocrisy, as long as it makes them feel better for what they are for a moment rather than change what they are for a lifetime. I will not make decisions based on the opinions of others that may fuck me over for a lifetime. Whatever decisions I make i will back up as much as possible with objective experiences and facts and not burden myself with opinions of people who do not matter to me. I choose which crosses I bear and will not choose that one.

And if I choose to leave that relationship I will leave regardless of the opinions of others. She is an adult who made her choices that made her incompatible with my choices. Others should not disrespect her or insinuate that either she or me make poor relationship decisions because either one of us made decisions that ended the relationship.

>I wanted to go to Japan or China. Just Asia in general.
>maybe I am some sort of loser but not like you’re describing.
>I wanted to go to Japan or China.
kek

>25 is not that high for a western woman.
jesus christ

>thai women
not a whore

Honestly? You should end it. Men shouldn't allow this type of behaviour. Plus she deceived you. False advertising. Promiscuity is one of the reasons why the West is so fucked.

Promiscuity has been promoted for a while now and pushed to be something perfectly normal and acceptable.

because some men don't want sluts. simple as that.

>implying it's not much worse now
I admire your optimism

Get over it.

"When it comes right to sex, men are like an iron coin when touched by blood: undamaged. Women are like a silk fabric when touched by blood: forever tainted."

that doesn't make it right or acceptable for you as a man

I do realize that

She’s a whore. Probably rode the cock carousel of rich asian until she found a beta white guy to settle.

SEAniggers tend to gateway their daughters well. Five is normal for a modern, westernized SEAnig. 25? Fuck that

5 is already too much then later she tells you it's actually 5 times 5? Dump the slut.

why the fuck ask this question when the only right answer is 0, which you know before even asking isnt the case

How do you even know 25 is the real number lmao