I've never asked a girl out in my entire life...

>I don't flirt because girls never flirt with me. And no girls have ever asked me to hang out one on one either.
Oh wait, are you the guy who had a girl literally sleep naked next to him and didn't do anything?
If that's you, you're not a reliable source of "never flirt with me". Do something and stop waiting for things to happen.

>Oh wait, are you the guy who had a girl literally sleep naked next to him and didn't do anything?
She never actually explicitly did anything or admitted to liking me at all. She apparently told a friend of mine that she wanted to date me, but then when I saw her in person she showed no indication of that. She slept almost naked with me yes, but then she didn't even try to kiss me. She never actually complimented me at all or said anything that indicated that she viewed me as anything more than a friend. It was so confusing. I don't understand how you're meant to succeed with women.

She made her move. Sleeping half naked in someone's bed is a pretty big indication. You ignored it. Obviously she didn't try to escalate shit further and kiss you. Was she supposed to confess? To rape you?

You're too dense to get subtle clues, people probably flirt with you all the time and you're too dumb to get it.

>and then eventually mutually decide "oh, i guess we're dating now".

Yea that means one of them asked the other to officially be dating.

So you make literally 0 effort and expect results. Stop being a coward and make a move if you want a girlfriend.

I just expected her maybe to say something like "you're cute" or even just "I like you" but she literally never did. She just talked with me normally, but every once in a while she'd do something gradually more intimate like laying her head on my lap, moving in to cuddle with me, and eventually just straight up sleeping on top of me. It didn't make any sense. Why couldn't she just say she liked me?

Also, how am I supposed to kiss a girl when I literally don't know how? I'm scared I'll go in for the kiss and I'll do it horribly wrong and humiliate myself.

I don't know how to make a move without it being awkward. Like yeah I meet girls who are cute and who I could ask for their number and ask them on a date or something, but there's no easy way to do it without looking really forced and like I'm being some lecherous creep.

Because you don't confess your feelings to people, normally, unless you're 100% sure they reciprocate.
Either you ask people out or you make moves so they understand that you like them, and see if they're into it.
She tried REALLY hard to make you get the point that she wanted your D, and ANYONE else would have understood.
My boyfriend is autistic and he got the message with less explicit clues.

Because real life isn't a fucking anime where the protagonist confesses his love to the girl he likes in a climactic confrontation. There's this thing called non-verbal communication. Read up on it. Learning how to read body language is an extremely useful skill, not just in dating but as a life skill in general, especially if you do shit that involves interacting with people on a regular basis.
I feel like people are getting a bit fucked in the head because of all the information on uni campuses about consent and how you need to get them to say YES to anything. Like asking someone if you can kiss them. You don't ask "can I kiss you?" you fucking make an approach for a kiss and let THEM decide if they want to reciprocate. Go watch Hitch, seriously. Yes means yes and no means no, but nonverbal communication is the most common way for people to say yes in an intimate situation.
The same shit goes with seminaked chick in your bed. She went this far, she wants you to reciprocate and make the move. It's a two-way street and no one wants to be at fault if the other person doesn't feel the same way. I mean shit I had a similar situation to you and it also didn't go the way I expected. I (male) had my roommate (female) jump in bed with me when I came back from Thanksgiving break last year and I thought she wanted have us to lose our virginities together. All she wanted to do was grope and cuddle, so I respected her boundaries when she said no to certain actions. She was a socially awkward fujoshi from Vietnam though, so take her actions with a grain of salt.

>Because you don't confess your feelings to people, normally, unless you're 100% sure they reciprocate.
I'm in a situation where idk what to do since I've never had a gf. I've been on dates before, but I have no idea what the fuck I should do about this girl I've known for a month. Recently started catching feels and my friends have different views on what I should do next (see )

Funnily enough girls usually stop trying after a while if you don't respond to any of their increasingly obvious hints and never initiate any flirting yourself.
Not that i can talk, having had pretty much the exact same issue myself. I'm still beating myself up over the (really fucking obvious in hindsight now that i get it) missed opportunities i had when younger.

As a rule of thumb whenever something like
>laying her head on my lap, moving in to cuddle with me, and eventually just straight up sleeping on top of me
happens you should ask yourself "is this something girls/this girl do with guys they're not into?".
It should be plenty obvious in most cases.
Then kick the little bitch inside you that's scared of rejection in the ass and make a move. You'll either fail or succeed, but you can only fail if you don't try.

>I'm scared I'll go in for the kiss and I'll do it horribly wrong and humiliate myself.
Believe me, nothing hurts quite like the knowledge that the only reason you never got those experiences is your own idiocy and cowardice.
You'll carry that around for the rest of your life if you don't get off your ass and TRY.

>Not that i can talk, having had pretty much the exact same issue myself. I'm still beating myself up over the (really fucking obvious in hindsight now that i get it) missed opportunities i had when younger.
fucking this. I know this is obviously a common issue, but I'm glad I'm not the only one. There was this one girl in highschool that was fucking drop dead gorgeous. So much so that now she's a literal fucking model. She was showing me so many signs that she liked me and wanted me, and I had a huge crush on her back then too, yet I was too socially retarded to pick up on ANY of that shit, so she inevitably friendzoned me (100% my fault, I admit), and proceeds to think of me as her regular best friend and tell me all these stories of her then new boyfriend that I really don't want to fucking hear, for obvious reasons. I still beat myself up for it this day, and its been the single biggest motivator to get better, yet at the same time its the single biggest thing still holding me back I feel. It's a nightmare and I feel trapped in my own personal hell.

>There's this thing called non-verbal communication. Read up on it. Learning how to read body language is an extremely useful skill, not just in dating but as a life skill in general, especially if you do shit that involves interacting with people on a regular basis.
Yes but with romantic interactions its different. If i misread a situation and start thinking a girl is interested when she isn't, then it will create intense social embarrassment, humiliation, and the girl will probably think I'm disgusting and a creep for making a move when she didn't want me to.

Okay but what am I supposed to do right now then? That incident with the girl who slept nearly naked with me was literally years ago. Nothing like that has ever happened again. What do i do if a girl never gives me an opportunity like that again? I feel like I'm just waiting for a girl to show she likes me in some way, but it never happens.

>If i misread a situation and start thinking a girl is interested when she isn't, then it will create intense social embarrassment, humiliation, and the girl will probably think I'm disgusting and a creep for making a move when she didn't want me to.
You learn how to read it by trial and error. Don't be afraid of making a mistake. Take it slow. If a girl leans into you, you might reciprocate by putting your hands on their shoulders or hugging them. Maybe you touch her hair. You take small steps to escalate, and you learn the boundaries. If they move away or say something like "don't touch me there" then you know right away. And this way they won't be fuming, nor embarrass you because it's not like you just grabbed a titty out of fucking nowhere.

>I feel like I'm just waiting for a girl to show she likes me in some way, but it never happens.
Unfortunately, very few girls will be upfront about the guy they like, and I'm saying that chick who got in bed with you in her underwear is in that minority. Blame it on culture, blame it on evolution, but it's been ingrained into us as mankind that the one who has to put their neck on the line for a relationship is the guy. You'll hear girls say shit like "I was standing in front of him by myself why didn't he come talk to me?" and you'll think to yourself "bitch if you wanted to talk to me you should've said hi." Just know that nine times out of ten, it is going to be "your fault" that you and a girl end up getting intimate. I don't mean "fault" as a negative type of blame, I just mean that the male will be the ultimate initiator, not the female.

>You learn how to read it by trial and error
But trial and error also involves extreme embarrassment, humiliation, and the creation of memories that will make me cringe uncomfortably whenever I remember them for years to come.

>If a girl leans into you, you might reciprocate by putting your hands on their shoulders or hugging them. Maybe you touch her hair.
Okay, yeah, I've done this before actually. But the problem is I am so unbearably awkward and clumsy around women that it just looks stupid. Like, a girl will start flirting with me and leaning into me, and I'll try to put my arm around her, but I'll like miss and end up somehow squeezing her armpit rather than her shoulder. Or I'll go to hug a girl goodbye after she's been flirty to me and we're about to go separate ways, and I'll end up totally missing and grabbing all the wrong places, and hugging like a total idiot. I can't stop myself from being this clumsy no matter how hard I try, it's like women just make me so anxious when they flirt with me that I lose all ability to make proper human movements and operate normally as a human being.

>I just mean that the male will be the ultimate initiator, not the female.
But how? Am I supposed to just start walking up to girls and calling them hot? Am I supposed to start asking out my female friends with no preparation at all? What is it that I'm meant to do here? Because girls arent making it easy for me, they never give me an easy opportunity to start flirting or asking for a number or whatever.

Bump

>this fucking overthink
gotta go with the flow my man, tough shit if it sucks it sucks for everyone just hope to get lucky first few times around.

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>women just make me so anxious when they flirt with me
I thought that they give you no hints, retard.

If you spent a fraction of the effort you do on whining on Jow Forums every day about the same fucking thing on actually getting girls you would be drowning in pussy by now.

He truly is a retard isn't he.