How come millennials don't respect the sacred bond between employer and employee?

How come millennials don't respect the sacred bond between employer and employee?

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this thread again. great.

>sacred bond
you don't understand what that word means.

He’s clearly shitposting, good job taking the bait
Anyway I see nothing wrong with this, I never understood the two weeks notice bullshit. I’ll quit whenever the hell I want to, you’re not entitled to my labor

Obamacare

Just ghosted my employer like a week ago. Lol I’m not going to be a yes man with shit pay. I make just enough to pay for my $550 house payment and electricity bill. I don’t need a good job all the time.

You can quit whenever you want, the two weeks notice is just a formality if you want to leave on good terms.

Since when was God involved? Or are you suggesting that Corporation is the new one?

You may not be too far off the mark if that's the case.

Nothing is more sacred than the sanctity of life.

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>oy vey goy you must be Shekelberg’s slave for two more weeks otherwise he’ll tell Rosenblatt and Jewstein that you’re a bad goy

Except it applies with goy business owners, too. If you genuinely like your employer but are leaving his employ for some reason, why wouldn't you be courteous?

cuz they do the same to us
NEXT

I put in my 2 weeks notice 3 weeks ago. They asked me if I could stay on an extra 2 weeks on top of what I had given. My wife just had a baby so I asked the company I'm joining if they were okay with moving the start date back a couple of weeks, which they were. I then told my current company that I could do it, but only on the condition that I work from home 100% for those 2 weeks so I can help out with the new baby. They reluctantly agreed. Joke's on them. I transitioned my responsibilities before I ever went on leave with the baby in the first place, the guy who took over doesn't need anything extra from me. I'm basically getting paid for 2 weeks to be at home and more or less on call if anyone needs me for anything. It's sort of like a vacation right now, I'm just relaxing and doing a little yard work.

I get ghosted by employers all the time when applying for jobs. I get interviewed and then straight up ghosted for 6 months and receive a rejection email.

Fuck them. I'm going to ghost them too.

capitalism is slavery we need to abolish it or we will forever be drawing simply faces and heard in styrofoam coffee cups in starbucks. abolishing capitalism is the only way forward. either we'll destroy it or we'll die under its dead weight

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It’s possible to be courteous without slaving away for two additional weeks. When you get fired they don’t let you keep working, so why would I keep working when I quit?

I ghosted mine. I had been living the same lifestyle I did with the same roommates I had in college, even though I had a $70k/yr for 3 years, so I had a fuck ton of money. My boss was being incredibly disrespectful one and demanded I do a bunch of shit over the weekend. Just didn't bother to come in on Monday and blocked his phone number. Found a new job in a month or so.

fuck working for the jew

For the same reasons we said yesterday:

Boomers living in denial of how fucked the situation is for the employed these days.

So sue me, I like reading about people's workplace experiences in clown world America 2019

I ghosted Target. I don't think I could bring myself to do it to a smaller/local establishment but fuck Target man. Those faggots treat you worse than Walmart.

Or you try your best and you too can end up with people working under you

Caring about your employer is boomer retardation. Whatever corporation you work for would drop you in an instant with 0 hesitation to make a fucking shekel. Fuck them.

That is the most disrespectful thing that I can think of

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"You can tell them in the country, tell them in the town
Miners down in Mingo laid their shovels down
we won't pull another pillar, load another ton
or lift another finger until the union we have won

Stand up boys, let the bosses know
Turn your buckets over, turn your lanterns low
There's fire in our hearts and fire in our soul
but there ain't gonna be no fire in the hole

Daddy died a miner and grandpa he did too,
I'll bet this coal will kill me before my working days is through
And a hole this dark and dirty an early grave I find
And I plan to make a union for the ones I leave behind

Stand up boys, let the bosses know
Turn you buckets over, turn your lanterns low
There's fire in our hearts and fire in our soul
but there ain't gonna be no fire in the hole

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Pussies that don't know how to say no or they are not interested. Probably mostly women doing this too.

>The good goy pledge

Large international corporations are not human entities, no problem ghosting them, if you work for a family owned company or similar and your employer is decent I would give them 2 weeks, otherwise fuck them.

you've obviously never had a company pay you well, give you good recommendations, and otherwise provide you with a stepping stone in a career

i don't need to hold the door open for my grandpa either; are you the kind of fag that lets doors slam into people's faces?

so start a fucking blog you cancerous faggot

Sure thing bud, I used to work retail and got bumped down to 4 hours a week for no reason. Still went in, shook my hand's boss, told him I wouldn't be working anymore, and thanked him for the opportunity. He didn't give two fucks. I never do that anymore. Now I just don't show up.

millennial uprising when?

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>Jow Forums quality control is on the case

Don't make me laugh you fuckin' dweeb

>verbally abused
t. cant handle the banter (unironically and literally tbqhfamalam)

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>comparing the bond between grandchild and grandfather to the bond between employer and employee
You’re either a Jew or Michael Scott

Two weeks is not needed, but you do need to actually say something. Ghosting is what scared little children do when they want to avoid the slightest moment of discomfort

Because the respect needs to go both ways

I ain't got no home, I'm just a-roamin' 'round,
Just a wandrin' worker, I go from town to town.
And the police make it hard wherever I may go
And I ain't got no home in this world anymore.
My brothers and my sisters are stranded on this road,
A hot and dusty road that a million feet have trod;
Rich man took my home and drove me from my door
And I ain't got no home in this world anymore.
Was a-farmin' on the shares, and always I was poor;
My crops I lay into the banker's store.
My wife took down and died upon the cabin floor,
And I ain't got no home in this world anymore.

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i dont know why this interaction made me laugh so hard. i love both of u anons.

>performance reviews are assessments of moral character

what is wrong with burgers? get an identity you don't wear a name tag for you fucking monkey

Based

I recently had to choose between two different employers after my last firm was sunk, did interviews with both.

>Firm 1
Offered £26k a year, 35 days holiday, full training package, 3 months probation, and allowed me to look around the office first to see if the office culture was my thing
>Firm 2
Offered an hourly rate of £8.90, 20 hours guaranteed with additional hours discussed weekly depending on load, paid holidays on a culminative basis starting at zero, expected me to pay for training, and they made it clear if I fucked up they wouldn't stand by me

Obviously I took firm 1s offer, but guess who acted slighted and were ringing me for a week after they offered the position? I'm only a software engineer, but fucking hell, companies need to stop acting like they're doing you a favour by taking you on. You should be selling yourself hard and they should WANT you to accept the position.

Boss in firm 2 was a boomer btw, boss in firm 1 looked mid 30s.

Hahah no, some of us don't wanna kiss ass to the end.

Once upon a time, there was an accepted etiquette on the part of both employer and employee: Two weeks notice allowed an employer to prepare a replacement, and in return employers generally gave advance notice of layoffs. You could still get immediately terminated for egregious offenses, but in general you had time to prep for job loss.

Starting in the 80s, that culture began to break down. It was already badly eroded by the mid-90s when I graduated from college and entered the workforce. Now, the very idea of any sort of mutual loyalty between employer and employed is as dead as the Code of Hammurabi. Despite my generally conservative leanings, I have to place at least 95% of the blame on the employers. They decided the "disposable workforce" concept was the best way to squeeze out extra shekels, ignoring the long-term implications. Fuck 'em.

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Easy

Seems to me like you have two options; bust your ass for an egotistical psychopath in a small business, or slack off and wither in complacency in a larger firm where you're overpaid and completely unchallenged.

I have yet to find employment that isn't either of these two, which is why I'm moving to CZ.

It serves no purpose if you aren't allowed to reply with your own banter. I'd love to call him a fat bastard, but that would get me fired. He is the one that can't handle the banter.

I got hired for a small family business once, I'm a certified bartender who applied and got (ostensibly) hired for a barback position, with the implication that I'd work my way up to making my own drinks in no time.

Turns out, first night, they wanted me as a busboy and expected me to work my way up and get promoted to the position I fucking applied for. I walked outta there first weekend after the little faggot momma's boy manager told me to scrub the bathrooms a second time after closing. Fuck family businesses.

No... you literally just need to face to face, or email, or text, "hey i quit"

I ghosted an employer once. Put in my 2 weeks and the boss scheduled me for work further out (outside of normal 9-5 hours). Dude wouldn’t take a clue. Kept sending me emails about my new work schedule. Finally said fuck it and dropped all my stuff off at the office one night and sent him an email that I had done so and he was to mail my last paycheck and never contact me again. Still makes me rage thinking about him trying to pull that shit.

>employer can pink-slip you at literally any time
>doesn't have to give a reason
>doesn't give a shit if you'll be able to feed your kids, pay your rent
>expects you to be fine with this
>also expects you to walk into their office and go "ummm, mr boss? Just letting you know now, I found another job and h-here's my three year's notice so it doesn't impact anything, o-okay? a-are you okay mr boss?"
>Ghosting is what scared little children do when they want to avoid the slightest moment of discomfort
>never checking in with your employees to see how they're doing
>terrorize people into never asking for more money, lie and say there's none when they do
>sic HR on people whenever they give the slightest indication they're not happy
>expect them to smile through their teeth when you sell the company, give yourself and ESOP, and place six new middle managers above your loyal employees
yeah fuck them. respect begets respect. People sit on career moves for months, it's on you for never asking your employees where they see their future going and how they're doing.

Based

>It serves no purpose if you aren't allowed to reply with your own banter. I'd love to call him a fat bastard, but that would get me fired.

Who fucking cares; its construction. Call him a fat bastard with a smile on your face and if he gets butthurt then walk across the street and get a job with the competition. Or just call him a fat bastard en español guey.

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You're too emotionally invested in your relationship with your boss, they are nothing to you, you are nothing to them. One day you will die. Life's too short to kiss ass and look out for people who don't give a fuck about you or follow the etiquette of a machine that DEFINITELY doesn't give a fuck about you. Spend some time completely broke and alone with no one to help you and you'll see what things are really like when the shoe drops.

Are you a woman?

Millennials are even worse bosses than boomers. Sure boomers are greedy, but millennials who made it (usually with daddy's money) all picture themselves to be Mark Zuckerbergs and expect you to accept a shit wage and no benefits for the """opportunity""" to work for their exciting 'startups'. Then when they decide to fire you they tell you with a shit eating grin "sorry user but you just don't fit the company culture." Even boomers do not act this way.

EYYY, CABRON GORDO!

>I have to place at least 95% of the blame on the employers.
The recessions in the '80s and 2008 permanently damaged the minds of employers
Perceptions of employees switched from:
>damn, i'm glad I hired this IT guy, our servers never go down - I can't do that!
>damn, i'm glad my project manager is so on the spot, we're always on-time and ahead of schedule - I can't do that!
to:
>no one else will hire them, they should be grateful I created a place for them!
>They want a raise?! Don't they realize that without me, they'd be starving on the streets?!

>sacred bond
nigger that's the gayest thing i've heard in a while

That's what you get when you fluff these goobers with "job creator" rhetoric for years

Okay pal, you don't understand the position and are making a lot of assumptions, if it was a typical construction job I would have done that already. I make a lot more money than what a normal construction worker would make, 4-5 times more. Also the only company in America that does what we do. So basically I've got to obey fat bastard or my life quality drops by multitudes, he is aware and takes advantage.

ok i found an even gayer post already, i'm yeeting myself out if this thread now

The recessions played a part, but I've got to be honest: the Jewish model of business was a bigger factor. By that, I mean the idea that you aren't a successful businessman unless you literally screw both your competitors and your employees. The Anglo-Saxon ideal of mutually beneficial relationships, while often ignored, was at least considered an ideal business model. Now, even the non-kikes try their best to kike everyone else, even the people in their own companies.

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>Instinctively subservient to those higher on the social ladder.
>Canadian flag
Chink detected.

You people are sad.

It'll persist as long as millennials keep being a problem generation. Honestly at the rate things are going they'll make this country collapse

26k for software engineer? Did the UK open the floodgates for pajeets or something?

Developers state side with a year of experience can still demand basically anything they want, and still have companies having near knife fights to get them.

Mega corps like Google will kill that eventually though, fucking H1B1 cancer will kill that market soon enough.

have sex

>our country is going to collapse if fry cooks and baristas don't show up
>the whole weight of social responsibility must fall on 20 somethings and not the men in positions of power

fuck off you bootlicking kike

>I've got to obey fat bastard or my life quality drops
Sí, comprendo guey. Enjoy your "verbal abuse" for the rest of your life. You ask for it and, therefore, deserve it.

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>Or just call him a fat bastard en español guey.

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If those at the bottom aren't willing to put their weight in then the whole thing will break down. Way I see it is that millennials focus too much on the present and not enough on the future. If they eat shit now they'll eventually reach a position where they won't have to eat shit. But instead of realizing that they just get hung up on no immediate rewards like their video games brainwash them to expect and just drop out of life.

There's an outsourcing issue, I believe. On site engineers are actually kind of rare over here, I'm expecting to get a lot more after the probation is up

Outsourcing is a thing here, but most companies have figured out that outsourcing comes with enormous quality and timeliness issues.

>If those at the bottom aren't willing to put their weight in then the whole thing will break down.
>he doesnt know

>If they eat shit now they'll eventually reach a position where they won't have to eat shit.
>muh trickledown

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Hey dumbfuck, all I said is that I will be ghosting him when it's time to quit because he doesn't deserve my respect because he takes his alcoholic rage out on his employees. You're a very dumb person and do not even know what the thread is about.

>Way I see it is that millennials focus too much on the present and not enough on the future. If they eat shit now they'll eventually reach a position where they won't have to eat shit.
Millenials are eating shit, and now they're frantically trying to construct a life where they can have a fraction of what their parents have.
Let me explain something to you, you retarded fucking boomer:
The United States functions on a debt-industrial complex. The banks are all insured by the FDIC on their fractional-reserve banking system, so they have a ton of money to lend, almost risk-free. Because the government insures these high-risk loans, the banks are willing to lend massive amounts to people with a high risk of default: millenial school and home loans. These loans have ridiculous interest rates, so in essence, the banks remain in a win-win: if the millenial defaults, the bank is paid back in full - if the millenial pays it off, the bank makes nearly twice the original loan amount. Because the bank makes so much money, they give out FDIC insured high risk loans for almost anything, to anyone.
Where we are now is that millenials are all universally so saturated with debt that they're unable to take on any more, unable to pay off the existing debt, and unable to move forward into the stage of life where they can have kids. "Don't take loans then!" you will say - the plethora of available loans has made the cost of living prohibitively high and inflated almost every good necessary to produce children: schooling, homes, cars, and land.
So, how do the banks keep making money when millenials can't take on more debt and won't have kids? Import debt-free foreigners and load them with debt!
Economic genocide is happening, and because you've bought the smearing of an entire generation as "lazy and preoccupied" hook, line, and sinker, you are playing a direct part in the destruction of the American people.

Yeah I don't think the UK is quite there yet, we tend to get like a manager, one or two engineers doing the designing, then outsourcing doing the grunt work. Hasn't really been a problem in my experience, but I imagine outsourcing everything would be a nightmare.

>sacred

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>kikeistani flag
>boomer rhetoric
>"muh millenials"

Go back to ptg fucking boomer scum. The day of the pillow approaches.

Shut your bitchass up. Ghosting is gay and so is your dumb ass father for producing you.

No one want to hear about you being too much of a fairy to troll your boss on the way out. Its one of life's greatest joys and yet you are avoiding it despite supposedly having a valid reason to do so. Have sex (the not gay kind).

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all that shit from a guy who has only ever worked in tv pointing a camera at specialists whose jobs most uneducated fucks would kill to have

I have no obligation to give notice if my employer has no obligation to do the same.

Employers arent even required to cash out sick/PTO hours in a lot of cases.

So fuck you. If I find a better job and they need me to start ASAP I will and my new employer actually appreciates me ghosting mt previous employer because smart employers know the stakes.

My current employer knows this and gives us a shit ton of freedom on work hours etc. He knows that if he loses even 2 of us he's fucked and won't be able to finish our current contract.

Why is this desirable? Fuck my manager, fuck boomers and fuck HR.

Based unironically

>hey man being an adult is getting your last "gotcha" in

My "gotcha" is not showing up to fucking work.

I got laid off in January. No warning, all good performance reviews, they didn't even clear the floor before they made me clean my desk so I got walked down to get my shit in front of everyone. I've been applying for jobs ever since and boomers have been ghosting me nonstop. We'll go back and forth about a job for a week then boom, nothing. I had a fucking recruitment agency ghost me because THEY sent me to an interview with no information and it was for a position that I was overqualified for. Even now I have a contract I could be working but can't because the fucking GOVERNMENT is essentially ghosting me on my requests for the most basic type of security clearance.
You want to know why people like me are motivated to just stop showing up? I fucking wonder. You cocksuckers won't even let capable people get jobs or keep them, why the fuck should we place any more importance on them than you?

>respect begets respect.
If you're a man you command respect. And then that's the respect that begets respect. I don't need to respect other people. I respect them because they respect me first. You must be a 56% manlet.

You have a point about trolling, at this time I'm not interested in spending extra energy on my boss but in the future this may become the case.

Also, you can't 1v1 me irl

>At-will employment
is a two-way street.

Because the employer doesn't work half has hard, makes way more money, and thinks they're god.
Just because they pay tiny wads of cash for each hour of back breaking.
Never respect your boss. They really don't deserve it and are likely to treat you way better when you don't respect them.
Showing them respect earns their contempt.

It is easier than ever to get a new job with the internet. So ghosting is no big deal