>Being Transgender is NOT a mental illness!
>Transgenderism should be covered under health care plans!
What did they mean by this? if it’s not an illness, why would it be covered by insurance?
Being Transgender is NOT a mental illness!
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It's a physical illness not mental
The few “trans” people I’ve met have all had serious childhood trauma. I consider encouraging and enabling their fantasies to be akin to giving drugs to an addict.
*ahem*
Fuck trannies.
Based
This is so clearly the truth. My cousin is FTM tranny. Her mom has serious mental health issues, history of suicide attempts, two failed marriages. But that would all just be a big (((coincidence))), right?
oh sure...Mutilating your genitals seems perfectly normal and healthy to me...
Imagine /pol...Being this fucking stupid
It's a mental illness as classified by DSM-V
en.wikipedia.org
There's no physical difference until they start treatment.
Wrong
explain
>first post worst post
you are an idiot of the highest order.
Maybe you should look up the latest science on the issue the APA says it's not a mental illness
Probably scared of losing their job. Cutting off parts of your body is a mental illness.
Being a fat guy in a miniskirt is not a physical illness you delusional moron. Receiving wrong sex hormones when you have a perfectly normal hormonal axis is elective. Operating on a perfectly normal and functional body part for aesthetic/cosmetic reasons is elective. Instead of trying to warp your physical body and material reality to suit your vision maybe try working on changing the consciousness that’s stuck in the wrong body.
That other guy is right. It's not considered a mental illness anymore. I assume due to social pressures
Desperately wanting a nose job or fake tits isn’t considered a mental illness but it isn’t covered by insurance either.
They want to force other people to pay for their elective surgeries.
Apparently kaiser permanente already does which is heinous considering they’ll refuse to cover necessary medical procedures like heart ablations.
Where's the shill posts? If he continued the policy he didn't even write we'd hear, "HAHA DRUMPH LOVES TRANNYS POL BTFO HAHA MIGA"
I imagine it'd take up 2/3 of the catalog
Lol. I wonder how they tried to justify that.
>dsm
Garbage
T. Retard who was retarded enough to get a psych degree
The APA used to say that being was a mental illness, they literally only changed it because fag terrorists invaded one of their meetings and demanded that they change it.
Take a bottle of aspirin and call me in the morning.
I used KP Medicaid for 3 years. Got lucky and was able to select a USNA retired doctor. He was great. He had a wall sized collage of every baby he's delivered. The opposite wall was a collage of letters from all the kids he delivered. He retired when I was a year and a half into Medicaid. I had a choice of three doctors after he retired. All black females. I chose the lightest skinned out of the three. She's good, around mid 50's age but I don't have the same trust with her as I had with the white doctor I had.
TLDR: You get a choice of three tax payer funded doctors, all black females. I'm a white man with white man problems. I always check my Dr advice and scripts with "webmd" lol
Friendly reminder all threads concerning Jews are capped at 150 or less by Fed gov
That why we make it up in volume.
Nobody asks questions anymore. It's just accepted. I'm 43, I started to notice race mixing propaganda when I was 13. My friends noticed it too. 30 years it's been a slow drip of propaganda and we're witnessing the last gasp of a matrix like stranglehold on the control of information that doesn't seem as relevant in real world functioning communities.
holy shit the onions is so strong in this meme that i think ihave onions in my body now...
I'm starting to hate trannies now.
Transgenderism is transhumanism
notice how he said "green light". this tweet is probably secret code to start some false flag shooting
What a pathetic liar, this filthy kike would literally support executing trannies in Israel (just like he’s an enthusiastic pro-abortionist in the Us and participate in pro-life events in pissrael)
Gender Identity Disorder is a rare (.03% of population) mental disorder that is diagnosed by a psychiatrist according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Symptoms of the disorder are: stress, anxiety, feelings of isolation and alienation, depression, body dysphoria, gender dysphoria, and suicidal thoughts.
Once the patient is diagnosed by a psychiatrist, the current recommended treatment is to cosmetically enhance the body to fit the mental disorder in order to alleviate the suicide rate, and Rx synthetic hormones are prescribed. The patient receives concurrent psychiatric counseling.
Treatment is cosmetic and psychiatric; through the use of synthetic hormones, the patient is made to appear more like the opposite sex. In cases of severe genital dysphoria, surgery can be done to make the genitals appear more like the opposite sex, but the cosmetic surgery to the genital region does not change function.
There is currently no cure for Gender Identity Disorder. The patient will always have it and will always suffer from the symptoms, as treatment does not cure the disorder. While the currently recommended treatment alleviate the symptoms short term, it does not help long-term, and suicide rates rise again after treatment to pre-treatment levels.
If treatment is discontinued at any time, the patient's body will revert, so treatment is continuous and lifelong. Since current recommended treatment does not change biology, DNA, or function, and merely creates an artificially achieved cosmetic appearance that is 'more like' the opposite sex, many patients are extremely dissatisfied with the results. This dissatisfaction may contribute to the rise in the suicide rate that occurs post treatment.
Imagine being so mentally ill, that you cut your dick off and make people call you a women. AND THEN ASK PEOPLE TO PAY TO CUT YOUR DICK OFF.
>Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals
>more than half of transgender adults reported an unwanted sexual event before the age of 18
>the higher DES score among transsexuals compared with a normal population was found to be due largely to one item. A surprisingly high prevalence of emotional maltreatment was recorded.
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>"These findings suggest that abuse and neglect during childhood could have a role in dissociative disorders as well as in the development of gender identity. Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals (Pauly, 1974; Lothstein, 1983; Devor, 1994; Kersting et al., 2003; Gehring and Knudson, 2005)
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>"Compared to a group of psychiatric inpatients, transgender clients reported a higher prevalence of emotional maltreatment in childhood, which, in adulthood, was associated with higher levels of dissociative systems (Kersting et al., 2003). In addition, more than half of transgender adults reported an unwanted sexual event before the age of 18"
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>"However, the higher DES score among transsexuals compared with a normal population was found to be due largely to one item. A surprisingly high prevalence of emotional maltreatment was recorded."
They should be euthanized to end their suffering.
yea fuck Schumer. Transgender patients are nightmare for both doctors and providers as well as insurance companies. Doctors and providers are afraid in some cases to even provide them healthcare because of their constant complaints or lawsuits and because the fact they ignore or outright reject what doctors decide for on treatment, drugs, surgery, etc. And that's before getting into the fact that they want expensive transitioning drugs/surgeries etc and have it paid for by insurance companies.
I'm not saying transgenders are retards, but...
they might be victims of something
This pretty much.
If a human is suffering because they want to change their appearance to match that of another existing type of human then it should be covered by an insurance plan.
That being said in the future when it is more....strange....such as people wanting to become a furry, that is an elective surgery and should not be covered unless maybe there is hard proof they will die/suffer if it is not done. That could be determined by a therapist or something.
At any rate to the OP, theres a difference between wanting to visually look more feminine via hormones (as well as not go fucking bald which I'm sure many on Jow Forums can understand) is not the same as mental illness.
There are two types of trans.
Those that simply want to look female, because it will greatly improve their happiness and help them attract the proper human mates they want. This type often keep their feminine penis. Merely wanting to look like the opposite sex via hormones and clothes changes is just a choice, they are usually not very manly in appearance so it works out well. This type truly cares about being passable. If they cannot then they don't proceed.
Then those who TRULY BELIEVE they are a female in a males body. These demand and make a big deal out of the her/him he/she shit as well as cut their dicks off for a neo-vagina (even though medical tech is just not really advancing in that area and it is not ready yet to make....desirable results). These can look manly as fuck, they just don't care about "passing" at all. this type could be considered mentally ill.
Remind me again how chopping off healthy parts of your body or grafting skin from your legs onto your crotch is healthy. All trannies will be committed to asylums and their enabling (((doctors))) will be executed.
Whatever your feelings on TDS listen to this episode on """neo-vaginas""" and tell me this is normal and healthy
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Source for this so called "invasion"?
Feminism is a viral bioweapon virus. A bio-terrorism outbreak. These "people" mutate and become Demons.....
> How to spot the infection
Wanting to destroy the family and men, hatred of children, wanting(and doing) killing of babies along with abortion, sexual/gender confusion, increase rates of homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia,transgender, various disturbing fetishes, cannibalism, wanting to destroy whites, social castes like social insects in large numbers, SIDS, miscarriages, fertility issues , stillborn's, wanting to attack and fuck the un-infected, obsession with things like snakes, sexual promiscuity(large numbers of partners), etc
> Categories relating to virus infection
Immune(People that cannot be infected by the virus)
Non-Infected(People that don't have the virus and can be infected)
Resistant(People that the virus has trouble infecting, but are not immune to being infected)
Hosts(People that have the virus)
Carriers(People that have the virus, but is dormant for long periods of time or even generations without showing any signs of infection. Some types of carriers can spread it)
Transmitters(People that are being used by the virus to spread it, but are not fully/completely infected)
Spreaders(People infected with the virus that spread the virus)
Infected(People infected by the virus)
HiveMind/Colony Castes(Similar to social insects. Queens, Drones, Workers, Soldiers, Majors, Super Majors, Kings, etc)
Mutation(physical changes to all body systems).
shut up Frank you fucking loser
Hormone therapy costs a fuck ton... it also hardly is ever a medical necessity. And if insurance is going to cover this, then most of the users of these hormonal medications will be people who just want to look different not people with actual health issues.
99% of females do NOT need estrogen therapy regardless of age. None of the geriatric female patients I’ve seen use estrogen. All it would do is increase their risk of heart attack and stroke. Same with males. 99% of men have no need for testosterone therapy. Even old fuckers don’t need it because testosterone decreases with age naturally and if you lift and do cardio and eat right your going to be perfectly fine!
So... these people want us to start dosing up women with testosterone and men with estrogen... don’t give me this bullshit that “oh well there a woman in a mans body so it won’t hurt their cardiovascular health to just keep estrogen levels equal to that of a regular female”. Because your disrupting a healthy endocrine system when you do this. It’s not that testosterone causes more negative cardiovascular effects than estrogen. Disrupting a healthy endocrine system is what hurts your heart, gives you cancer, and gives you an early death. Doesn’t matter how you do it. Inject whatever hormone you want into whatever body and you will fuck the person up. That’s all that needs to be understood. But nobody listens in this world that cares about nothing else other than outer appearances. God knows what happens if and when we have a tranny who is 70+ years old.... do we keep doing cross sex hormone therapy?? I imagine they will have already had a few strokes. Yet they will want us to keep shooting up this or that hormone that causes your heart to malfunction and hardening of your arteries??? Gimme a fucking break! We don’t have enough geriatric transexuals as of today. I guess people like jazz Jennings and Chelsea Manning will be the first human expirinents in geriatric trans
>latest science
>DSM is literally voted on
Science!
Was gonna post this.
Last troon-related thread got deleted rip. Anyone notice they all look at real whamens like they want to rape them and wear their skin? Today I saw one at work
>drive thru
>can't see the person in the next car yet
>anime loli keychain and other misc autism hanging from the rearview mirror
>brace self
>car rolls up
>it's a lanky greasy dude in makeup
>talks to me in a fake 'girl' voice
>5 'o clock shadow
>have to fight self not to laugh
If it isn't a mental illness then how come they don't realize they look like creepy dudes and not BRAVE STUNNING LAYDEES
it is a mental illness and they think being a woman is just putting on a costume and mannerisms. I mean look at the lefty troon darling contrapoints, a literal man looking troon that talks with the most hideous fake woman voice and thinks it's passing when it's hideous even after face surgery
I’ve got to hear this fake girl voice i would get a huge kick out of it! I remember back in the day when they still had video rental stores I was renting a blockbuster movie and there was a girl with a short haircut and male clothes on. She was making her voice really really deep. And you could fucking tell that it was NOT her natural voice and I remember walking out just thinking how ridiculous it all was. Now about 15 years later we are feeding their delusion almost like feeding a heroine addict heroine.
yeah boomer you want to hear fake girl voice? well here you go
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Hahaha ha funny.
But kinda creepy at some points. I wonder sometimes... are these trannys just super fucking autistic people or something? Because you’d have to be like really really fucking oblivious to what other people probably think of you running around and larping as a female...
Though I do know an autistic guy whose not severe he says he’s on the more highly functioning end of the spectrum and says that trannys are an abomination. So I dunno.
Btw I’m no boomer! Boomers were born like... 1940-1970 or so. Not 93
they probably are super autistic. although they all seem to be very delusional and reinforce each others delusions on trans communities and on reddit subs, etc where they'll post 'how beautiful and totally passing' they all are. I do think that many of them have legit face blind autism though which is why they can say with a straight face or think that they pass when they look like men in make up with that hideous faked girly voice no one falls for
Interesting. Yea I’ve always wondered about this. Because the autists I’ve seen are as you say “face blind”.
Like even the highly functioning guy I know has a very flat emotional affect to his face 90% of the time. Is monotone and very tough to read his feelings.
Maybe it takes this sort of mental anomaly to be a transgender because your so absorbed in your own little world and are constantly and obsessively trying to make yourself into something your not fucking with makeup and shit. And then to go out and act natural and be clueless as to what others think. You got to be a major sperg.
frank pls go to a doctor hunbun snicker doodle poodle noodle
we get it, your mom won't by hotpockets so you think she has an evil virus
seek help
have a bamp
exactly.
Gender Identity Dysphoria symptoms are being 'faceblind' to gender. Patients with GID can not experience gender correctly in themselves OR in others. They rely on external clues like dress, long hair, nails, makeup, beard, etc. So when they see a man with long hair and girl makeup, to them 'it totally passes' even though normal people who are not 'gender blind' immediately know what someone's sex is, or they hit the uncanny valley.
Psychiatrists know this, researchers know this, but they can't study it. Hell they can't even study pimozide which has been shown to be helpful the few times it was used, and they can't suggest testosterone supplements instead of estrogen. They will be sued and ruined.
The gender blindess of GID sufferers extends to a reality blindness/autism for most social norms. For example, if you are a store with a sign that says 'no shirt no shoes, no service' a GID patient...if they want to use that store without shoes on....will not understand that is the rule. You and I will shrug and go put our shoes on then come back. But a GID sufferer will walk in anyway and argue with the manager that THEY WANT TO SHOP so the rule is wrong..because they want to shop, so the rule is wrong..because they want to shop. What they feel surely MUST be the reality.
schumer must hang the gods demand it
The problem is I wish every disease was as easy to treat as Transgenderism.
>Doctor my lung hurts
>You have lung cancer
>But I don't really see myself as someone with lung cancer
>You're right I agree, I acknowledge and validate your diagnosis
Done. Next.
>medical costs are way too expensive no one can afford to cover all of these
>it actually only impacts a small amount of the population 0.03%
Pick one. If it doesn’t effect lots of
Ppl, the stuff can be covered. It can’t be that expensive and if it is it is not many ppl
>Cuck Schumer unironically rallying behind 1 of the population
how the hell could a neural illness be physical
the faggots will turn it into a physical illness by chopping their dicks/tits off at some point but that's just a symptom
Testosterone supplements won’t work.
Everyone knows hormonal therapies treat absolutely nothing when it comes to GID. It can’t make gay people straight or stop a guy from wanting to become a woman. Most of these trannys are autogynephiles from watching too much porn I’m sure. And throw a dash of autism to the mix and I guess you get the GID. Testosterone will just make you have a hornier mentally ill person on your hands. They will be pisses about getting more manly features of course and jack off even harder over the thought of being a woman.
What’s really fucking funny and should be a red pill to others is when these people get bottom surgery. Once the nuts are gone so is the fetish what a coincidence!
how do bigots cope with the fact that they pay for 80% of my hrt?
Get mad.
Justifiably. No one wants to pay for someone else’s vanity.
“I want a new coat of paint on my car so that it looks like a different! Taxpayers fund it!”
“I’m a man but I don’t like this. Taxpayers pay for my dick removal and breast inplants!”
Fuck! Sooo when is the day going to come where I want to look like and identify as he man in masters of the universe so taxpayers need to pay for my trenbolone!
Do you see how making taxpayers pay for shit that isn’t even important pisses them off?
so its fair to say that youre kind of mad about the fact that you pay for my hrt
But I don’t pay for it. I’m in burgerland my taxes don’t cover shit for you. But yea I wouldn’t like it one damn bit. Unless maybe you could change the laws so that the taxpayers could pay for me to get trenbolone HRT because I identify as he man.
If you can put this on the lgbtq tranny agenda for me, maybe we can come to an agreement and I won’t be mad. If the taxes will pay for your transgender therapy say if your FTM so that you can get fucked by straight men. Then I want trenbolone therapy so that I can be as muscular as he man, then I can crush pussy left and right and not be an incel anymore.
Do this and it can be a win win for us both...
if we were in the same country that is. But for those of you who are trans and in my country. Push for incels to be treated with drugs like anadrol and trenbolone. It may make us die earlier but at least we can experience what it’s like to be a pussy crushing chad before we die out.
got any more knowledge bombs?
It is certainly a mental illness induced by childhood sexual trauma
It most definitely should not be covered.
I mean social engineering so a population carries out what you want is one thing. Claiming it's actually a viral infection that turns you into a demon is another. Unless you're just trying to be metaphorical in a very unclear manner...
Members have to vote that it’s fine or they’re deemed a bigot
i like the guy and respect his intelligence but man do i pity him. don't like seeing where this mental plague has taken him.
Males will never become female, it is physically impossible. Even if the tranny wagon has cucked us all into paying for unnecessary horse piss pills.
>As if they are going to do anything other than give you tuberous breasts (manboobs) and an atrophied dick that don't work, so have fun with that.
No...its is overpriced vanity surgery
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I can't stand people that say wanting to change sex isn't a mental illness. Holy fuck. I get that they've changed it from mental illness in some mainstream scientific journal, no doubt due to social and political pressure, but even so - why is common sense so...absent in these people? In what world is wanting to damage and mutilate your own body not considered a mental illness? Fucking ridiculous. But no some shitty scientific fraud said it's not a mental illness and this will only cause more harm than good in the long run. Not only do these people get positive reinforcement regarding their mental illness but any scientist who wants to research a cure has NO chance of funding and any progress they publish will result in career suicide. Good lord. It might be worth noting this is coming from someone who had body dysmorphic disorder.
'Transgender' are not denied healthcare. They're denied particular treatments that are questionably effective and ethical.
they consider it a physical disability.
leftists think it makes more sense to deny physical reality than accept their worldview may be flawed
Based and day-of-the-rope pilled
>Source for this so called "invasion"?
Are you that dense and retarded?
The SAME news articles thar report the change of transexualism say that was due to POLITICAL REASONS and to REDUCE THE "DISCRIMINATION" against trannies, not because any new evidence was found.
It's the same shit that they do when they want you to stop using some word and start using some new word instead.
No, I'm mad that I'm paying doctor's to guide you towards a path that increases your likelihood of death not away from it.
You have to understand trannyfag, we don't hate you. We pity you and it pains us to so you getting "treatment" that doesn't heal you.
You're receiving palative care, like a dying old man being kept comfortable till his death, you're being kept "happy" until your suicide. And that's extremely sad. Watching you butcher yourself and live in turmoil, nobody accepting you and you clearly not accepting yourself....
Dont hang your hat on the DSM because its under constant political pressure to change its diagnostic criteria. They were pressured to get homosexuality out of the dsm. Soon they will say that being straight is a mental disorder and will use the fact that you quoted the dsm against you.
When they talk you in that girly voice act offended and try to look ready to bash their heads.
Go full.
ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF ME?
Then backtrack fast as if it were just a misunderstanding but act very suspicious.
Hide the fact that is because they are disgusting trannies and make it look that is because other thing is off in the whole interaction.
Make them self-concious about their deceptive ways.
It's a mental illness, but mutilating their bodies won't change anything, so they can pay for it themselves.
nope he is an actual fucking retard, mentally ill, believes everything he doesn't like is just one big virus and that it makes literal demons and shit
he makes threads in stealth mode then is the first person to reply to them usually, or 2nd/3rd....then him and about 6 proxies reply to each other until the thread reaches max bump
No thanks.
They've also started saying that masculinity is toxic. Anything the APA has recently said can't be trusted. The Left doesn't follow real science anymore. They just push whatever lies support their degenerate cult.
don't overthink it:
Sex and Gender aren't the same thing.
Trans is not a Sex, it's a Gender.
That's it
I feel you man. I've had the argument countless times. It should be such a simple and easy argument to win as well, but the people arguing will never admit that they're being a fucking idiot. Last conversation I had about this shit went like this.
>Trans is a mental illness, these people need help, not hormones and surgery.
"it's not a mental illness you're just trying to be a dick"
>people have a brain, they think their brain is in the wrong body.
"yes"
>somehow this is not a mental illness?
"no"
>really?
"yes"
>OK, even if I play along, and say that maybe they have a female brain, but they're in a male body... How is having the wrong brain in your skull NOT a mental illness?
"it's just not a mental illness"
>is it a physical ailment or disorder?
"no, just some people are born in the wrong body!"
These are the people that worship scientists.
so you're saying we should just add more shit to an already full pile? Fucking leaf
so this guy has a reputation huh?
I'm mad that in the future we will be forced to purge all of you and that will haunt my conciousness forever.
But when a wild animal attack your family, your way of life and you then there is only one choice.
yeah it's a sick joke at this point. the term "clown world" isn't used for nothing huh
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some faggot got a vaginer made out of fish skin because they cut his dick in half, they fucked up and needed more material... so they used a fucking fish
they call it Neo Vagina Plasty
these retards think this is what a pussy is.