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A reminder that Hillary is our rightful president
Logan Cook
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Ian Moore
What the hell is this thing doing on Jow Forums?
Grayson Nelson
Look at those people! They exhale honesty. Truly the greatest defenders of the working man!
Ryan Green
facts don't belong here get out of my ecochamber!
Hudson Scott
Huh, last I checked we lived in a republic.
Jonathan Walker
>I don't know the rules of the game
>I think the election is a popularity contest
Literally, neck yourself.
Jaxson Perez
Any X% of population less than 66% prefer hillary/obama to trump. Lets call this V%.
Obama vs Hillary vs trump
Trump 100-V% of the votes
Hillary V%/2
Obama V% /2
Trump wins unless more than 100% * 2/3 of the population prefer hillary/obama to trump
Aaron Wright
do you even know what republic means faggot?
Alexander Price
Electoral votes is just one of the rules that make the USA Voting System.
According to usa, not only you need to win, but you need to get more than 50% of the votes, she had 48% of the popular votes and would still lose.
She would lose because at this case it would go to the house of representatives and she would lose election since most are of the trump party.
also
>plurality voting
>meaningfull way to get data
>"But this means all USA elections until now were irrelevant. Since all elections used plurality"
YES, DEAL WITH IT AND RESEARCH MORE ABOUT STUFF.
DEAL WITH IT.
John Evans
oof
Daniel Powell
dont even think for a second that trump wouldnt have won the popular vote if that was the rule
Blake Johnson
Representatives of various regions are elected to vote on behalf of their constituents?
Christian James
democracy = people decide what will be done
republic = people decide who is the one that will decide what will be done
Kayden Lopez
This is what Alexandria Hamilton said about the electoral college:
>The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States. It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue. And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration. Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: "For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,'' yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.
TLDR: The electoral college was supposed to protect against people like Trump!
Aiden Reyes
FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT HILLARY WON AT A VOTING SYSTEM NO COUNTRY SHOULD USE.
PS: First past the post, "Give yes to a candidate the one with more votes win even if not 50% of all (at some countries valid ones only) votes"
ALL SYSTEMS EXCLUDING FIRST PAST POST WOULD HAVE TRUMP WINING OR A THIRD PARTY WINNER
Voting System 1: Two round with electoral system (by area or same amount of votes or population, by state or county) or without electoral system:
How it works: "Give yes to an candidate, the one with more votes win if has has 50% of all (at some countries valid ones only) votes, if he dont have this amount of votes, a second round is made with the two candidates with more votes and the first, the most voted at second round win."
Result:TRUMP WIN
Voting System 2: Instant runoff with electoral system (by area or same amount of votes or population, by state or county) or without electoral system:
How it works: Like two round system but you remove only the least votes candidate when going to the next round. People just need to vote once unlike two round system because they put all candidates in order.
Result: TRUMP WIN
Voting System 3: Coombs method with electoral system (by area or same amount of votes or population, by state or county) or without electoral system:
How it works: Like instant runn off, but instead of removing the candidate with least amount of first place votes (remember you order every candidate in order) you remove the candidate with least amount of last place votes
Result:THIRD PARTY WIN
Voting System 4: Disapproval system method with electoral system (by area or same amount of votes or population, by state or county) or without electoral system:
How it works: People pick their most hated candidate, the one with least votes win.
Who wins: A TIE BETWEEN THIRD PARTIES
Xavier Garcia
Sorry no participation trophy.
Zachary Edwards
Daily reminder
Eli Murphy
Subtract California and Trump won the popular vote by 2 million.
Noah Howard
>”Hillary is smarter than Trum-“
Gavin Torres
Liar.
Jack Perez
>2,012,331
That's a lot of illegal taco-benders and Cemetery-Americans
Brody Moore
Why not subtract Texas? Why does it have to be Califonia?
Christopher Flores
>Subtract a large number hillary voters and trump won!
Jose Collins
not when you subtract the couple million illegals that voted.
Hunter Walker
What was the difference in California?
Brandon Martin
Forget what I said here, third parties have an chance too, to win instant runoff, instant runoff reduce chance two party system.
Kayden Thomas
Good thing we aren't ruled over by douchebags from California and New York.
Dylan Rodriguez
I would rightfully go down on Hillary after a hot sweaty debate and tongue fuck her abortion scarred womb, then go balls deep until the seizures hit and her vaginal muscle tense and release on me until completion.
Ayden Walker
when are we doing that by the way
Austin Robinson
Reminder that Russia is still butthurt.
Caleb Collins
>facts don't belong here get out of my ecochamber!
>muh illegal spics habe the right vote too
Levi Kelly
reminder that over 3 million illegals & dead people voted, kike.
Jackson Sanchez
Hahahahahaha! Nope! Who's farts are plastered in that chair in the oval office? Not HER!
Jaxson Thomas
Proof?
Colton Stewart
If you want to go off popular vote at the (time), then there would still be slavery, abortion would be murder (which it is), and gay marriage would be a crime. So do you want to think about your stupidity for a moment?
Jayden Campbell
After generations of importing voters, having a complete monopoly on mainstream media, countless celebrity shills endorsing her... Hillary won in NY and CA by 2 million votes.
*inhales*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahAHAHAahahah
Ryder Price
>Believes everything Hilary says
>Thinks silencers are magic.
>walks into crowd with silenced pistol
>fires a round and misses trump
>feelsbadman.jpg
>Gets arrested
>feelsbadderman.jpg
Caleb Miller
nice bait user
Easton Bell
I want to see your leaf
Bentley Ortiz
Why do you retards play into this 3 year old bait? This is twitter soccer mom shit
Jace Edwards
>wanting a pure democracy
>unironically thinking mob rule is a good idea
this is an idea nazis can get behind
Nolan Edwards
>she actually believes a silencer makes the gun silent
Ethan Ross
Then
>"HEY DRUMPFIE. THIS ISN'T A POPULARITY CONTEST, SO DON'T THINK YOU'LL WIN THE ELECTION WITH THE POPULAR VOTE. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT HURR HURR ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTIONS!"
Now
>"BUT B-BUT... MY POPULAR VOTE!!!"
Cameron Anderson
you're correct, Trump didn't win, Hillary lost, Run her again and watch it happen again, Hell run her every 4 yrs till she's dead if you feel lucky
Andrew Campbell
And the founding fathers thought the masses were idiots.
Dylan Johnson
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why do you think they're so against Voter ID?
Eli Smith
Reminder that presidential elections are not decided by the popular vote.
/thread
Gabriel Lee
Because Voter ID discriminates against minority voters. It is a giant barrier, just like poll taxes were.
Hunter Rodriguez
Alexander Hamilton wanted to prevent people like Trump from getting elected.
Jaxson Gray
Are you suggesting beaners and such are too stupid to pick up a free ID? Because mexico has voter ID and they have to re register once in a while because the rolls get purged and they do just fine.
Tyler Williams
democracy = mob rule
republic = the majority doesnt abuse the minority
Blake Williams
Friendly reminder all threads concerning Jews are capped at 150 or less by Fed gov
Noah Cook
>Because Voter ID discriminates against minority voters
are you saying niggers are too stupid to get an ID? how they hell do they get their EBT cards then?
William Parker
REMINDER THAT IF YOU ARE RESPONDING TO THIS BAIT WITHOUT SAGING YOU ARE A FUCKING CANCEROUS MORON THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM
Ethan Cruz
So what?
Ryder Young
just like driver's licenses discriminates against minorities and causes them to drive less? *chuckles*
Nathan Adams
Many eligible voters live far from ID-issuing offices and don’t have access to a car or other transportation options. Beyond the challenge of merely getting to such an office, millions of these voters are poor and have trouble paying the fees that come with acquiring IDs.
Jaxson Brown
You claim to support the founding fathers, but do a big 360 when what the founding fathers say is contrary to your own views.
Nicholas Walker
>are poor and have trouble paying the fees that come with acquiring IDs.
now that's a bold face fucking lie, If they can have voter ID in mexico the beaners here can do the same
Easton Price
Obtaining photo ID can be costly and burdensome, with even free state ID requiring documents like a birth certificate that can cost up to $25 in some places.
John Roberts
ok retard
Levi Myers
Some of the foundign fathers were retarded niggers, everyone knows this. Theres a reason no one talks about that faggot hamilton, and niggers made a play about him. He was a worthless white man, hes like a nigger folk hero.
Jackson Evans
>Obtaining photo ID can be costly and burdensome,
kek
Kayden Garcia
I didn’t claim anything don’t project your frustrations on me.
Jeremiah Jones
Trump won period, cupcake.
Anthony Nguyen
The US constitution article 2, section 1, clause 3:
"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President."
Nathan Torres
>do a big 360
And a 360 is a complete circle meaning I end up having the same opinion I started with. Cmon user
Chase Johnson
>like a birth certificate that can cost up to $25 in some places.
so lets just bring back you have to own property or be a tax payer to vote, if you cant afford $25 you have no business making decision for those of us who have a horse in the race
Joshua Wood
>balls deep until the seizures
Nicholas Rivera
And they were right
Isaiah Hall
those numbers don't even make sense
there's 252 million adults in the US
they say that voting turnout was ~50% with 116 million people voting
that's 232 people registered to vote
meaning that only 8% of adults aren't registered to vote
there's no way that's true
Carson Sanchez
according to their own numbers 17% of people aren't registered to vote
that's an extra 20 million votes
Lincoln Smith
Wrong, it was setup to have equally representation throughout the population, heavier populated areas would control the USA
Leo Lee
The founding fathers wanted to prevent Russian agents from becoming president. They wanted the electoral college to be a council of wise men who would weed out people like Trump. The electoral college isn’t doing it’s intended job so it has no reason to exist.
Josiah Gutierrez
now take off 11 million illegal shitskins, about 10 million dead democrat voters, and 4 million duplicate votes for shillary for good measure
Christian Torres
I want a no fly zone for syrian government over syria, fucking globalist monkey cunt
Landon Howard
Indeed. I unironically would have her mount my face after a long sandy day at the beach and a cabbage and bean brunch.
Isaac Russell
Hahahahaha
Jace Hall
There are only 3 verified cases of voter fraud in 2016, and all were Trump supporters who tried to vote twice. Some came up with bizarre excuses like “I’m voting on behalf of my dead wife.”
Liam Campbell
explain this then where'd those extra 20 million votes come from?
Isaiah Morris
Reminder that the majority didn't want either of them.
Jackson Bennett
Alexander Hamilton is a figure beloved by liberals because of a shitty pro-illegal immigration play and loved by kikes because he was a cronie to the Rothschilds. Fuck Hamilton.
Oliver Cook
Only an anti-American would want to away with the electoral college.
Why are you lefties wanting to destroy everything this country was founded on? If you want a European style socialism, you can have it there. By wanting to infringe on gun rights, erode the first amendment and destroy the electoral college, proves that it is YOUR side that hates the US.
Jacob Richardson
trump won 200 counties while hillary won 50
Christopher Nelson
Don't get mad when you lose a game of Chess because you were playing by Checkers rules.
Connor Parker
Miss me, drumpfkins?
Christian Bennett
Listen California really, really, really liked Hillary. Just let her win. :/
Hunter Allen
Hillary won big counties like Los Angeles County with a population of over 10 million. Trump won small counties like Loving County with a population of exactly 134.
Jaxon Allen
Do you think large coastal areas like Los Angeles should get to decide what is best for less populated rural communities?
Chase Walker
I was just saying that counties are not a fair way of measuring popularity and support.
Julian Rogers
absolutely, the needs of the many over the needs of a couple
Nolan Clark
its a better measurement than popular vote
Isaiah Reyes
Then why isn't she President?
Jaxon Young
Maybe in a collectivist country.
Christian Price
the white are the many, so by your logic, we can vote to deport/kill all nonwhites. the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few!
Jackson Wilson
Los Angeles County has 10.14 million people.
Kalawao County has 88 people.
Yet you think that both should count exactly the same?
David Scott
Depends on what states we’re talking about. Pretty sure different state but have different rules. I don’t think all of them are winner takes all delegate states.
Carter Baker
>reductio ad absurdum
This is why you're a loser, user.
Ryan Ramirez
Hillary is my president OP. God bless
Jeremiah Hernandez
Back to rebbit then you ignorant cuck