Huh?

>pro life is not a position on killing people

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>I don't see whats wrong with forcing an adolescent to have a pregnancy
>and no we wont be supporting the single mother, why do you ask?

>also enjoying leftypol gaslight as stormfags
One of the true joys of this place. They larp as absolute retards. holding what they think is their opponent's position. Sometimes they engage, but mostly its one and don, and say nothing but insults or weak arguments that are ridiculous. It more common than just a year ago, they're a different breed than shitposters.

>be 13yo bitch getting pregnant
>boy is the same age
Who pays child support? His parents?

killing those who committed murder is alright.

should include baby butchers too

It's the same as being "Pro-choice" and against the death penalty. The two terms have had clear definitions longer than you've been alive.
Please fellate a shotgun.

>holding what they think is their opponent's position
like calling any dissenting opinion communism?

Joseph Gordon Levitt

...you have a syndicalist flag, faggot

I do, but that sort of sperging out is what goes on here, anything no matter how mild = commies

And where exactly is the gaslighting or larping? I posted the picture with this same flag, do you think the exchange in the picture is faked?

He makes a good point
She can use the C Section technique and leave the baby to adoption

The states restricting abortion aren't doing anything to expand adoption or foster services

And they're also making access to Medicaid, family planning, etc harder

And their sex ed curriculums are a joke or shut down

I'm trying to figure out how practice of raising your own kids and family taught sexuality is evil to you. Its almost like you'd prefer if the state raised the kids, all the time, everywhere.

There is no cotradictions at prolife lady post tho, you can be prolife and pro death penalty if you believe in free will, thats besides that civilised part

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>forcing a pregnancy by not carrying out a medical procedure because people are not more educted on accountability and responsibility
>thinking this is murder and not having any welfare support for those that do give birth are inseperable points of view

I'm trying to figure out what this means in English

>you can be prolife and prodeath
Do you know what suffix 'pro' means?

>I'm trying to figure out what this means in English
I'm trying to figure out how the practice of raising your own kids and family taught sexuality is evil to you. Its almost like you'd prefer it if the state raised the kids, all the time, everywhere.
>shitty keyboard, and you hurt my feelings ;(

>a word has had one meaning for a long time
>words never change in meaning, especially not over long periods of time
EU, what happened?

>you have to be accountable and responsible hurr
she is, she is taking responsibility for the fact that she cannot properly raise the child
>noooo! you have to do it beforehand!
shes 13
13
let me repeat that one more time: 13 years old
you're expecting a 13 year old to be mature and have everything planned out and to act with perfect foreknowledge?
As Donald Rumsfeld said in response to the death and destruction he had wrought in Iraq: "stuff happens"
>and not having welfare support
You want to her to have the kid and raise it
You also don't want to support her in any way and castigate her for being unable to properly support it
There is a dichotomy

"Pro-choice" and "Pro-life" has always had the same meaning and still do.
Did somebody drop you as a baby?

>shes 1313let me repeat that one more time: 13 years old
What did the baby do wrong to have it's life snuffed out?

would you like more
>prolife and for death penalty
looks like you just trying to avoid addressing the point to me.

>taught sexuality is evil
I don't think that
What did I say to suggest that?
That is the common Jow Forums incel belief though when they refer to any woman having sex is a slut and whore
And other pro-lifers saying sex is only for producing children
>Its almost like you'd prefer it if the state raised the kids, all the time, everywhere.
What does this mean?
1) If someone wants single parents to be helped by society then does this mean they want total government control over all child raising?
2) Or if you want kids given the facts and taught about contraceptives and human health - rather than lied to or simply left uninformed - then this is government taking over?

Why is doing anything at all seen as a prelude to gulags? Not just a bit hyperbolic maybe?

So pro-life isn't pro-life. It's pro-foetus while humans can fuck off. What kind of philosophy is this?

What did the 13 year old do to have hers ended because what do you think she'll be doing for the rest of her life now?
>muh responsababilabaties!

Pro-life is a position on abortion. If you tell anyone you're either pro-choice or pro-life, they know that you're not talking about needling niggers in Texas prisons.

Nice pilpul you have there Moshe.

>13 year olds have no personal agency and should not have any kind of expectation placed on their shoulders.
>We shouldn't even bother trying to teach them the consequences of their actions and just hope they grow up to figure it out by themselves

I haven't said anything about child support, I wouldn't have a problem with state support because the failure is not placed on the 13 year old's shoulders, but rather the senior figures in her life who need to do more to prevent further cases happening

Dutroux is french. You also missed the point, Jacob

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>taught sexuality is evil
>I don't think that What did I say to suggest that?
Just now. You're misquoting me on purpose.
>That is the common Jow Forums incel belief though when they refer to any woman having sex is a slut and whore
Outside of marriage, sure. People make mistakes, but sex has a purpose, and misusing it is of the Devil.

1)Depends on the level of control the government wants over the children. You can't deny that there's a tendency for leftists to pry control from the parents.
2)Put it on the parents. If shitty parents think you'll do it for them, they won't discuss it at all. If they know they have to, for the welfare of their offspring, they're more likey to. Its almost like we got trannies and sex predators reading books to kindergardeners.

What's unclear...?

I get that, but this is ostensibly a Christian position to take. It amuses the rational folks to see American Christians up in arms (sometimes literally) about protecting fetuses' rights but, a second after birth, those same babies can fuck right off with their educational or health care needs. It's an insane position to take so of course it's going to be lampooned. I think the Christians like it so much because it costs them nothing and it's so pleasurable for the to judge and punish others. They'll force women who can't afford a baby to have the baby but they'll fight against taxes to help pay for the baby they just forced into existence. It's just so insane on so many levels. In the end, it's all about their sick love of judging and punishing. They get to be sadistic gods and it gives them major hard ons.

user...
Are you forcing 13 year olds to have sex...?
Should we contact the authorities...?

The world runs on hypocrisy. Get used to it.

>In the end, it's all about their sick love of judging and punishing. They get to be sadistic gods and it gives them major hard ons.
I don't think you're a serious person. Wait till you figure out how legalistic Islam, Judism, and many other religions are. That is, if you are that young and stupid. Certainly young.
youtube.com/watch?v=04iAa91CzMU

>not supporting gibs is literal murder
This. This is why everyone on Jow Forums despises Leafs.
Come on Justin. You promised us a rangeban. Do it. DO IT!

Not for long. People are disgusted by hypocrites. Jesus identified hypocrisy as one of the greatest sins of all. Yet it's routinely the one most fervently committed by his followers. This is one of the reasons behind its precipitous decline since the 1500s.

I've probably lived twice as long as you, don't hold your breath.

Anti-abortion advocates are not hypocrites. They believe a fetus is a human being. Killing a human being is wrong. They are morally consistent. Leftists are actually mentally fucking retarded for not realizing this.

trumptards gonna tard

>This is one of the reasons behind its precipitous decline since the 1500s.
Although Christian hypocrisy is true (We're human), I'm not seeing it here in the general attitude of the father in OP's post. Emotional, sure; and over the top. As far as the decline, its more rooted in philosophy as it turned away from Christianity. Which is a bit strange, as Christian based philosophy and assumptions made the rennisance happen in the first place. The Devil is always at work in his lies. You can't take religion out of man though, we've begun to worship ourselves, or ideologies.

>Born in Ixelles, Belgium, on 6 November 1956,[2] Dutroux was the oldest of five children. His parents, both teachers, emigrated to the Belgian Congo, but returned to Belgium at the start of the Congo Crisis when Dutroux was four. They separated in 1971 and Dutroux stayed with his mother.[

>Wait till you figure out how legalistic Islam, Judism, and many other religions are.
I never said that Christians claim an exclusive right to judge and punish others. Islam and Judaism are in fact far worse. I'm acutely aware of that fact, having lived and worked under sharia law for years. And I've carefully read the Quran cover to cover, twice. But we're discussing the very specific topic of abortion in America, hence my explicit referencing of the "American Christians".

based

>less than 1% of abortions
>this is always their argument
fucking kikes

the child is innocent, the asshole who impregnated her isn't

>>not supporting gibs is literal murder
>This. This is why everyone on Jow Forums despises Leafs.

What costs taxpayers more? Passing pro- choice legislation once so the poor can get abortions? Or funding food stamps, welfare and state prisons for endless generations forever? Who's the conservative now? You like a communist in comparison to me.

he should shoot himself because he raised a whore

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>But we're discussing the very specific topic of abortion in America, hence my explicit referencing of the "American Christians".
OkLet's discuss this humorous post, where you claim hypocrisy because people don't want the innocent dead, but are fine with the guilty. Am I a hypocrite? ( I haven't fully stated my views on the death penalty btw, but I will defend it for treason, like most people.)

>Supports the abolition of the family
>Is conservative

>thinks civilized people let 13 year olds have sex

lolno. that is death penalty tier shit

If he speaks french he is french

Why do people equate age with wisdom? That is one of the first signs of foolishness. Just because you are old, that doesn't mean that you have a broader, richer range of experience than others, or have gleaned more insights from those experiences. If having advanced age is the card you have to play, you have a pretty intellectually barren hand.

Both of them are retarded. If the girl is 13 she shouldn't be pregnant in the first place. Its your fault as a parent and as a man/woman for passing genetics of stupid.

>>Supports the abolition of the family
>>Is conservative
You can keep this family. Let em breed like rabbits. It's all yours, pal.

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Perfectly possible that the guy that got her pregnant is 13-15. Also, the underlying point is that their poor parenting made it possible that their daughter had sex at that age. Their response is to shoot the boy while claiming to be civil.

Was I equating age with wisdom? No I wasn't. I was equating time spent in this world observing how nothing changes and hypocrisy runs rampant.
But it does say something about you when you're not wise enough to understand what was written and instead jump to a defensive position based on nothing but wrong assumptions.

>comes from a country where people speak French , Dutch, and German
>literally has a mutt language where they combine the languages
>hurr why are u speak french , u not belgian
?????

Lol. Imagine being this retarded.
Can you really not maintain a single train of thought for 5 minutes?
Or is this just what they call "pilpul"...?
Also, kicking all of the niggers and spics out of my country would be substantially cheaper. So... no, you're still the communist.

>>literally has a mutt language where they combine the languages
What?

Because we don't have your disgusting Leaf brand of autism and we are capable of understanding abstracts and generalizations.

dat pretty dumb. there's an afterlife so you dont need to care that hard about every little thing. i think most human lives are inopportune bc of poverty and such

MultiTree considers Flemish to include the four principal Dutch dialects in the Flemish region (Flanders): Brabantian, East Flemish, West Flemish and Limburgish as well as three others dialects. [14]. Glottolog considers Flemish to be separate (regional) language, which includes the dialects of Antwerps, French Flemish, West Flemish, East Flemish and Limburgish

Shit, it really reminds me of a book called Unwind.

It's not a different language, the language is Dutch. Flemish, and it's regional accents and word usages, is still Dutch. Just like you have different forms of English.

>you claim hypocrisy because people don't want the innocent dead, but are fine with the guilty.
I referenced not criminals on death row but babies "a second after birth". Is that not innocent enough for you? And of course the American Christians lose their interest in the welfare of these babies because they have already passed through a vagina, a body part which apparently strips one of relevance to Christian thinking. Those kids can fuck off. This is the hypocrisy that the Christians have to account for.

Obviously they must also account for their desire to punish the guilty on death row when Jesus himself idealized forgiveness and charity for all adult sinners. But you can address the baby issue for now if that makes it easier on you. Go ahead. I'll wait.

>You can keep this family. Let em breed like rabbits. It's all yours, pal.
I wonder why the black family dissolved. Surely it wasn't gibs just as they were getting middle class, an abortion sign on every corner (even their churches, once saw two on the same block. One down the street, and in the parking lot of a black church), a culture of failure created by affirmative action, and politicians after votes, stirring emotions. Nope nothing to do with it. Maybe, just maybe, if they were forced back into familyhood they would suck less and form better social bonds. I personally think they're the most pozzed and fucked up group in America. But it happened for reasons. We can address it, or leave that conversation bare. I think making them have their kids might take 10 years to change their culture, maybe more. But I prefer black people to niggers. Abortion and the easy to walk away from family (replaced for the government) isn't helping create black people. Its creating more niggers in the end.

> I'd shoot the guy
> I'm pro life
> killing a kid for fucking some thot is civilized, but aborting an unborn kid is not

How about the stupid slut daughter who went and had a gang bang with some niggers?
Maybe shoot your fucking daughter instead.

lmao. If your 13y/o daughter comes home pregnant you should just kys for being a failure.

>This is the hypocrisy that the Christians have to account for.
Try again, Rabbi. Even your strawman isn't hypocrisy.

In most cases, that underage thot has an adult "boyfriend", in which case it's civilized as fuck to do what the police won't do.

>Was I equating age with wisdom? No I wasn't. I was equating time spent in this world [ie the duration of one's age] observing how nothing changes and hypocrisy runs rampant [ie the ability to recognize the true nature of the world, aka wisdom].

You actually refuted yourself in your very first sentence. Bravo. Truly you're an intellect to be reckoned with.

The black family broke down for all kinds of reasons, many of which you mentioned (affirmative action and Nixon's provision of welfare for single mothers in particular), but not the availability of abortion, which had the opposite effect, as it mitigated both family size and the size of welfare payments per household. Smaller families are more stable and manageable, which increases their odds of remaining intact and of producing educated, well adjusted citizens.

>peoples moral views are a muddy mess
im suprised, hypocracy is humanity. Only a few raise above the herd

>but not the availability of abortion, which had the opposite effect, as it mitigated both family size and the size of welfare payments per household.
It made their families easier to dissolve. I'm sure you're aware of what Planned Parenthood used to be called, and its founder's writings on the subject of blacks.
>Smaller families are more stable and manageable, which increases their odds of remaining intact and of producing educated, well adjusted citizens.
What's your definition? Smaller families usually happen in the rich part of cities, and lies, damn lies, and statistics can get in the way. Just because some white family has 1 or 2 children, and lives in a high cost of living area doesn't make them better off as individuals or people. Small families are concentrated in high cost of living environments. A middle class house might cost 500,000$s there, and they get paid well above average .Meanwhile, you can get the same house for 140,000$s somewhere else, and live better by getting paid 20% less. I suspect that statistics might be lying on this front (although you provided none), as some measure of 'acheivement' of people with smaller households.

That and children of farmers might do better with a smaller family cohort. For obvious reasons.

Rules for radicals 101
>Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
It works every time.

Yeah, it's really fucking unpopular when you turn it against them. But linking "pro-choice" and "pro-life" to shit that has nothing to do with abortion is just retarded and anyone not retarded will point that out.
But yes, it is hypocritical to be "pro-life" and still support say the death penalty. It's still a false equivalence.

You're right but to general public reading that. They'll think. "Oh what a hypocrite" and dismiss any resulting discourse on it. It's all about how you say things and the left plays easy mode when they question anyone with right wing views to a "all or nothing" traps.
A better response would have been "so you are in support of 13 year old daughters having sex?" Then you force them to answer their own stupid question.

>daughter is a whore
>some retarded dad: "REEEE THIS IS ALL THE BOY'S FAULT! WHERE'S MY BOOMSTICK!?"

The task of raising a child is the same as physically being torn to pices. Hyperbolic bull shit she has many choices adoption, family care plans and help from relatives.

Yeah it's not like the church runs many family help organizations or charities designed just for such things. There is a difference between charity and taxation. Ones own choices have consequences that are not the responsibility of all.

Not finding a suitor by the time a girl is 13 and married by 15.
Boys should find a fiance by 15 and married by 18.

I'd be happy if my daughter was married and was starting a family.

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>Not finding a suitor by the time a girl is 13 and married by 15.
>Boys should find a fiance by 15 and married by 18.
Whoops forgot to greentext.

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Republicans/Conservatives all suffer from cognitive dissonance

Give the kid up for adoption