Doubting climate change is the ultimate brainlet filter.
>b-but the earth isn't literally burning Good job noticing concequences don't happen in seconds. >b-but muh periodic graph that shows it's already happened in the past Pic related. The global temperature is changing WAY faster than is ever did, it certainly varied by a few degrees, but that was over the course of thousands and thousands of years, not a mere hundred. >b-but muh propaganda Yes, I'm sure the totality of the climate experts would lie to the entirety of the earth for no apparent reason.
Climate change dniers are proud idiots, literally as bad as flat earthers.
>The global temperature is changing WAY faster than is ever did >Pic related
That's a picture of CO2, not temperature, you fucking tard. The temperature has only increased by less than half a degree in the last hundred years
Noah Anderson
It's changed by about 0.9C actually.
Kevin James
So why, as a first world country, should I stagnate or destroy my economy just to implement """""green""""" energy sources when an overwhelming majority of "pollution" comes from third-world shitholes? My impact is negligible but I have to put all the effort in and prostrate myself to little effect as a showpiece?
Carter Bell
No arguments, please come again.
And more CO2 means higher temprature you absolute nigger. >has only increased by half a degree in the past hundred year Not only is it ~0.9, it's getting faster. I'd say it's exponential but I'm not sure you understand.
Colton Foster
I bet you think climate models are a good way to predict outcomes don’t you faggot
Isaac Clark
doesn't your graph prove that ice ages are natural and occur with regularity and that we are due for one regardless of co2 levels?
Cooper Lopez
>The global temperature is changing WAY faster than is ever did One day this meme will die.
>And more CO2 means higher temprature you absolute nigger. lul prove it.
Alexander Williams
>I'd say it's exponential
I don't think that is possible given what we know about the PETM event
Charles Ross
Isn't this the 4th thread on this topic today? sage and kys
Elijah Jenkins
Just a reminder that “green” politics is an immense reactionary industry funded for the sole purpose of achieving actionable status for Agenda 21/2030 which necessitates voluntary state sovereignty exchange to the UN as the “final authority” on “environmental issues”
Matthew Davis
>doesn't your graph prove that ice ages are natural and occur with regularity and that we are due for one regardless of co2 levels?
The next ice age wouldn't happen for another 5,000 to 10,000 years. However, the CO2 we are pumping into the atmosphere is probably going to prevent the ice age from happening (and that's a good thing).
Also, we are technically in the Ice Age right now. Temperature and CO2 levels are quite low currently compared to the usual business on this planet. Have you ever wondered why dinosaurs got so big? It was because the planet was flooded with energy and biomass back then.
all your chart shows is levels of co2 though there is no other data shown but levels of co2 so what correlation are you trying to show exactly? it doesn't show temperature, it doesn't show sea levels, nothing but co2 levels
Jaxon Rogers
so CO2 levels gro from 250PPM to just over 400PPM and thats proof that climate change is entirely mans fault?
That graph isnt a temperature graph you brainlet mong, and it also has a shifted y axis, why? if you are so right, then why the misleading graph?
Caleb Thompson
I believe people who worked on it for decades have found it a ludicrous funding model and are running with it
Joshua Watson
>You are an idiot. Oh yeah? Well you're a big stupid poo poo head and you like baby wiener in your ear!
see the trend as of 10,000 years ago, is going downward, you dunce.
Do you even know how to read data?
Aiden Rogers
They want to "fight" for something besides just 'organge man bad"
Adrian Rogers
I still don't get why faggots don't believe that humans are causing the warming... too busy sucking big oil and big coals cock I guess. The evidence makes it crystal clear, that is, if you believe in science.
Go fuck your self, socialist, kike CO2 greens the earth and makes it more sustainable
Kevin Reyes
There are more ecofascists here than you think. It's not a left wing issue, it's a bare facts amounting to an existential threat issue.
Adrian Ward
all your chart shows is levels of co2 though there is no other data shown but levels of co2 so what correlation are you trying to show exactly? it doesn't show temperature, it doesn't show sea levels, nothing but co2 levels
Christopher Martin
>Learn about greenhoise effect. that's a theory, prove to me unequivocally it causes global warming. otherwise man-made climate change should just be taken with a grain of salt and we shouldn't take huge efforts that will displace the economy to try and stop it.
Anthony Young
t. doesn't understand a fucking thing about magnetic fields
Kayden Carter
what evidence? you climate change doomers are always going on about "all the evidence", well lets see some of it
or are you going to mel mermelstein me and issue a judicial notice on that?
>The fact we are in a phase where the temperature is higher is only a coincidence
You need stronger evidence to back this up. We're currently living during an interglacial warming period where the temperature IS SUPPOSED to be increasing. In the previous interglacial event, the temperature got 2 degrees hotter than it is now and there were zero human civilizations around
Oliver Taylor
Wow, 11,000 years ago we really fucked up the planet and kept our pollution roughly at the same level ever since. You convinced me.
Caleb Ramirez
>More CO2 is the cause not the effect, idiot.
yes you fucking retard, thats exactly what i just said. read my comment again. Now explain, to me how this is proof of global warming or any climate change at all.
Austin Morris
>The fact we are in a phase where the temperature is higher is only a coincidence and doesn't mean we don't have a large impact on the climate. Quite right. Too bad that has nothing to do with my argument, Remember when you said "The global temperature is changing WAY faster than is ever did"?
>Doubting climate change Glad you brought this up. I don't doubt it. It's going to get fucking cold in the next few years, really cold, along the lines of a Maunder Minimum cold. Civilizations always expand during Warmings, and collapse during Coolings.
What leads you to believe CO2 causes climate change? Looking at this we’ve seen at least a doubling of CO2, but temperatures haven’t risen to correlate with the graph. Why specifically does CO2 cause “climate change”. Isn’t climate always changing?
Nicholas Lewis
90-95% of the greenhouse effect is caused by water vapor, therefore we must eliminate water vapor from the atmosphere!
As we can see here the long term trend is a Cooling. Coolings are very dangerous. The sun is going into a quiet cycle, it's not putting out as much energy. Prepare.
Kevin Price
what ive always found strange, the the idea that co2 keeps the heat in but not out, insulation isnt a 2 way mirror, if heat from sunlight can come in through it, then it can get back out,
Jacob Ross
>Greenland >useless and misleading parabolic fit it's almost like this graph is denialtard tricks
Grayson King
>WHY IS EVERY FUCKING "TEMPERATURE" GRAPH IN THIS THREAD CONTRADICTORY?
None of these temperature graphs are contradictory you fucking sperg, they all actually agree with each other. Just pay attention to the timescale.
>Drinking water is good for by body, so I guess drinking 100 gallons a day will make me healthy! >My body contais some iron, guess it's time to shoot myself to better my health! CO2 is good and necessary IN CERTAIN QUANTITIES, IDIOT.
I already explained this, learn about greenhouse effect.
>that's a theory Oh my god you cannot be serious. Greenhouse effect is known to be 100% true, you can test it at home retard, 100% guaranteed mossad won't corrupt the experiment!
READ THE OP PICTURE. Temeprature is supposed to go up, but not that fast.
Because greenhouse effect.
You just proved my point, thanks.
>thousands of years >soon
Greenhouse effect.
Notice that big fucking spike at the end? Well turns out it's ∆y/∆x is way bigger than EVER, and your 10000 year graph dpesn't show this (conveniently)
Greenhouse effect is already proven fils de pute.
Greenhouse effect, idiot. AMEROCANS, STOP BEING SO IDIOTIC.
Mason Allen
The only thing causing climate change is overpopulation. The more people there is, the more demand for products from cheap third world countries like chinese factories and palm oil which they cut down rain forest to grow, all to satisfy the needs of too many products all the people want to buy. Yet the solution politicians want is to import more people from poor countries to be consumers all the while taxing them for the problem they themselves are creating.
Gabriel Lewis
because of differing axis scale, axis offset, estimation methodology and source of measurement data
David Gutierrez
>lmao climate change is a kike lie >continues to not believe in what will be the cause of the single largest third world migration catastrophe in history, which will flood europe
You guys are braindead.
Sebastian Davis
Gases absorb different frequencies of light. The light comes in and hits the ground surface, the surface warms, and later re-emits the energy as lower frequency infrared. That's the radiation that gets absorbed by greenhouse gases, when it would otherwise go out into space.
Jaxon Moore
Let it happen and humanity will have to fix it.
And we WILL fix it.
Angel Myers
>because greenhouse effect fuck me, what a shit tier response. provide PROOF that this correlates to a temperature increase.
PROVIDE PROOF
how are you not able to understand these two simple fucking words?
Jackson Sanchez
>Oh my god you cannot be serious. Greenhouse effect is known to be 100% true, you can test it at home retard, 100% guaranteed mossad won't corrupt the experiment! you still have yet to prove it, shill. if you can't, admit you were wrong and delete this thread. it's that simple.
Mason Allen
>You just proved my point, thanks. Are you fucking blind? Here, I resized that image so you can see better.
It's like a heart beat.....it's cycles. another graph, with a heart beat., again we're looking at cycles.
Dylan Gray
>it's almost like this graph is denialtard tricks The Holocene climatic optimum was a real event. 8,000 years ago, the planet was 1 to 2 degrees Celcius warmer than it is now. This is undeniable scientific fact.
Nathan Gray
>greenhouse effect Show me one experiment I can do at home that proves co2 significantly increases the temperature at projected ppm. Protip: you can't
Nicholas King
Venus is 95% CO2, look what happened to that planet
David Taylor
>the Earth behaves just like a tiny experimental setup "no"
Josiah Cruz
>gets into an argument about research "REEEE MY EMOTIONS FUCK SHIT FUCK RETARD IDIOT DUMBASS BITCH SHIT FUCK!!!"
They're going to migrate endlessly into the west regardless.
Do you think banning the automobile is going to stop that or something?
Zachary Roberts
Yeah and ? I'd gladly put the world population back to under a billion or less, but we all know our cucked governments won't even allow for massive genocides, so we'll have to fucking take it.
Note : I would GLADLY drive a big, oio inefficient car, live in a big, badly insulated house, and get products from all around the fucking world if we were way less.
I am fucking ANGERED that we have to do such things as "eat green" or use public transports because of fucking nigger countries breeding like rabbits.
I HATE niggers, kikes, arabs and all of those, I would be the first to man a machine gun when they reach our borders, but the sad truth is that our cuck societies will take them arms open. We have to prevent climate change to DEVREASE the number of climate immigrants.
USE GOOGLE NIGGER
USE GOOGLE
ITS NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT "CORRELATION BEHIND GREENHOUSE EFFECT AND TEMPERATURE NOW IS IT?
Read up, mutt.
Yeah, temperature is going up lile crazy since the industrial revolution because of greenhouse effect gases. Thanks again fren.
Good thing our atmosphere isn't anywhere close to that So we're not dealing with science, got it
Christian Ross
Kek except your smuggie doesn't apply, mutt.
Lucas Gomez
>Read up, mutt. yeah, that's not an answer. admit you were wrong.
Levi Green
thats actually a fairly decent response, and i forgot about that shit. But now, compared to the mass of the earth, vs the mass of the atmosphere, how is it possible that the atmosphere can radiate a meaningful amount of heat back down into the earth to cause any noticeable warming?
warmer molecules rise and would be closer to the edge of space, which would expose these molecules to a far greater temperature differential that the earth ever could, a warmer atmosphere means losing more heat to the void than the earth.
Also, have a look at this, CO2 absorbs IR at 15um, a tiny portion of the earths emitted IR, the co2 in the atmosphere basically does nothing
I've yet to see a predicted consequence of climate change that I don't view as a good thing.
John Gonzalez
People who don't believe in climate change are low-IQ libertards who deserve to be disenfranchised
Aaron Collins
This is exactly why China, India, and Africa need to be slaughtered down to the last man, woman, and child. We must save the earth by eradicating all who seek to kill her first. We have to do this ourselves and not with nukes to prevent more environmental catastrophes from happening. If we want to save the earth, we have to kill everyone who doesn't.
Levi Nguyen
C02's effect on temeperature is logarithmic
Eli Hernandez
>Yeah, temperature is going up lile crazy since the industrial revolution because of greenhouse effect gases. Thanks again fren. Alright, I'll try to explain this Sesame Street style. What do you see inside these green ovals?
Fact is, we are now cooler than during the expansion of the Roman Empire, that is fact. Why do you insist on using only the last one or two hundred years as a baseline? That's like cheating/moving the goal posts.
Adam Rodriguez
>USE GOOGLE NIGGER
>USE GOOGLE
>ITS NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT "CORRELATION BEHIND GREENHOUSE EFFECT AND TEMPERATURE NOW IS IT?
in other words "I lose, but i'm going to still try and take the moral high ground by telling you to find the proof for me"
here, this is what i found on google, it certainly proves you wrong
>We must save the earth by eradicating all who seek to kill her first
You're a fucking retard dude, did you not notice from all these graphs that we are on schedule for an ice age glaciation that will significantly reduce the amount of life on this planet? It is in our best interest to keep this planet warm.
>WAY faster than is ever did lol wut? How about when the a super volcano en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oruanui_eruption how about a major asteroid strike. We are still coming out of an ice age fuckwit, yeah shit might warm. But pay no attention to that 1.5 million km diameter fusion reactor in the sky that under goes cyclic changes that we do not understand. Just pay you carbon tax goy
James Bennett
god, imagine being so naive as to walk into Jow Forums with the crazy notion that what your uneducated opinion is good enough as proof, only to have your opinion absolutely disgraced in minutes by pretty much everybody
now your just shit slinging mate, you fucked up bigly
Sebastian Perez
Fuck the earth and fuck jews
Jason Russell
ive always wondered, where is this ice going to come from? is it just going to leap out of the ocean and climb uphill to get us?
Jaxson Lee
Basically this. Even if Belgium were correct he can't argue for shit and is a crybaby
Angel Myers
>doubting climate change is ultimate brainlet filter
Even if climate change was real, would arcane climate science really be the ultimate brainlet filter? How is somebody supposed to know if climate change is real without extensively researching it themselves? It’s the opposite of a brainlet filter. I can scarcely think of a issue less subject to pure intellectual capacity.
Evan Evans
Why do you want overpopulation to continue? If your pic related is true, then we can do nothing about it and might as well end pollution anyway.
Nicholas Brown
it makes destroying him too easy, we could just make up any old shit and he would be stuck
Blake Edwards
>Blah blah changing too fast Not necessarily correct. They measure the temperature by measuring the concentration of water with oxygen-18 or -15 or some shit like that in the ice. That tells you the temperature because it boils differently to standard water, so in the ice the concwntration varies. This requires oxygen 18 to be a static amount of the stuff in the ocean. These ice cores tell us thousands of years of history, we could never get the resolution of that graph down to modern times levels for the past hundred thousand years. The temperature could fluctuate dramatically in those years but we'd get the average from the ice core bullshit.
Ryan Cox
Gases don't absorb only exactly at the peaks. There is a Gaussian envelope around the peak. Carbon dioxide absorbs a lot of infrared re-emission energy from the surface. Increased greenhouse effect also increases water evaporation, and water vapor is the most potent greenhouse gas. >warmer molecules rise This is only a useful heuristic for conditions near the surface. Any given molecule of CO2 is incredibly unlikely to rise miles away from the surface, because it must lose energy overcoming gravitational potential to do so. That's why the atmosphere gradually becomes less dense with increasing height. This effect is not particularly important for the greenhouse effect. "Most of" the atmosphere" is "close enough" to the surface that it's essentially a 50% chance that the re-emitted radiation comes back to the earth. If it goes down, it comes back, and if it goes up, it escapes into space.
Jayden Morgan
nevermind, i didnt realise the volume of ice is 109% that of water, i thought it was much less of a difference