Neoconservatism is literally holding the West together. American military intervention along with support for NATO is what keeps the West a strong power bloc and America as the world hegemony. If you are opposed to these values you are not a neo-conservative
>strong Christian West >Strong support for U.S military intervention >Support for patriotic U.S departments like CIA and NSA >Support for Israel (as they are a Western military base) >Hatred against Russia, China, Syria, Iran, etc >War on drugs >Corporate work prisons
These policies keep the West stable. Opposition to them is treason.
you forgot mass replacement immigration from 3rd world human farms to prop up growth of profits to keep the whole thing from imploding
naah i think we can do without self respectless neocons, literally no better than liberals in that you will do virtually anything including selling your soul and those of all of your countrymen to avoid hardship and taking a loss.
Jeremiah Young
i'm not american so idgaf
Eli Stewart
die in a fire you filthy kike fight your own wars
Dominic James
It's called bringing in an underclass to do all the hard labor. Wouldn't you rather be a CEO or investment banker or lawyer and leave the manual labor to the Mexican immigrants
Christian Perry
fight your own wars. we have no reason to hate russia syria or iran.
Christopher Martinez
It's really fascinating how Putin managed to cockblock Bolton in literally everything. The Venezuela regime change failed, the Iran falseflag failed.
Jace Barnes
>the only thing preventing us from being investment bankers is the overwhelming demand for cleaners and farm hands Homo Americanus. Lets just let Israel lift itself up by its bootstraps instead.
Yes you do idiot, you are part of the American empire. Canada is AMERICA. You are part of NATO, you are in the American hegemonic system. So yes you do care.
Jace Sanders
no- kids do labor jobs with their parent and 3% of the population do intellectual, administrative, " work " .
The entire US economy rests on the Petrodollar which is a sinking ship. America can't go around toppling problematic countries anymore, the Russian-Chinese bloc won't let them [see: Syria]. Clinging to this model is clinging to a sinking ship. The financial system will be reformed so these interventions are unnecessary or the system will collapse.
Brody Ross
>only thing preventing us from being investment bankers We are investment bankers, we are CEOs, we are lawyers. Why do you think those suburbs with million dollar homes are all filled by white people. White people have become an aristocratic class in America thanks to neoconservatism
Yes you do, they have lots of oil that they are not trading in U.S dollars. That makes them an opponent to the global petrodollar
I know it's a shame.
Israel fights for America, so why would you not support Israel?
Jeremiah Gutierrez
I'm legit scared of this. This is why I fucking hate Russia for siding with the Chinese.
This is why I support more funding for BLACK OPS because if the U.S can't invade these countries they need CIA agents in all these countries to spread their agenda.
Luke Collins
Most Americans do white collar work now a days.
Isaac Bailey
>t.turbo jew on steroids
Lincoln Edwards
Well, get fucked. You took us off gold to make it easier to fund shit since you needed more money, built this temple of failure, then drove us 20 trillion in debt propping it up. Its going to collapse and we're going to face hyperinflation and no amount of murders is going to stall this even one day.
You realize debt is a myth right? We can create as much money as we want with the FED. Debt is just U.S treasury bonds owned by U.S investors and the FED. We don't really even have a debt.
Hyperinflation will never come, the U.S will remain the global economic power because the CIA will outsmart Slavnigs and stupid communists in Chinaland.
Isaac Watson
Israel is an American slave state. Israel is nothing more than America's bitch, of course Bolton will pet the dog.
William Howard
But they won't. The Petrodollar cannot exist if America can't conduct its wars of 'liberation'. And thanks to Ivan that is now impossible. The only possible outcomes are starting WW3 in a failed intervention in some backwater desert, or NOT doing that and letting someone trade for oil in didgeridollars. Don't call it a grave, its the future you chose.
Ryder Lewis
Fuck off JIDF
Samuel Hall
I have faith Trump will handle this.
Camden Mitchell
bruh your larping too hard, take a break
Liam Sullivan
Prehaps the NSA will use blackmail to blackmail politicians in these countries to their whim. Think about it, imagine if they could access every single persons internet history/snapchat history in the world? They could control anyone with blackmail, that's their goal. They could use that agianst politicians in these countries that dont use USD
Trump doesn't want war,. The only way to fix this is to find a workable replacement for the Petrodollar. It needs to go, and it needs to be gone yesterday. But the idea of doing so democratically looks less likely by the day, and your nigger slave class has the country on a collision course for balkanization. So lets review, we have a divided, splintered empire, deep in debt, hoisting itself up through military superiority that is overextended and just waiting to get knocked on its ass by a rising rival power. And our whole economy is held up by a literal scheme we've conquered several countries to keep going, and of which the general populace is completely ignorant. And now we can't conquer no more.
Liam Edwards
I dont see whats wrong with this picture. I like Macron. He's a crypto-imperialist.
Levi Sullivan
Its not enough. As long as economic incentive to drop the Petrodollar exists political pressure will exist also. At the end of the day Mr Bolton needs his wars, or there will be no Petrodollar.
Jaxon Cox
Fair enough but Neoconservatives also want open borders to mexico and free trade abroad.
These policies are heavily detrimental to the US in the long run.... So, we have to get rid of the neocons.
>open borders with Mexico Yeah, to bring in a slave class of worker bees so white Americans can become high-salaried programmers or investment banker lawyers.
>free trade Free trade benefits both sides. The only people we shouldn't trade with are our financial and geopolitical enemies like Russia and China.
Cameron Richardson
But you do know that means whites become a minority in their own land right? And with that they lose control of their culture right? Money isnt everything
Jeremiah James
Drink the koolaid. The zionists who say that the US could be a smouldering ruin and their support of the terror sponsor state Israel would remain steadfast also say that debt isnt real and the 7 trillion dollars spent on zionist war since 2001 doesnt matter. America really is a giant cult.
Logan Rodriguez
A roman emperor saying the percentage of gold in coins isnt real
Evan Cooper
>implying theres enough jobs available in those industries
merchant bankers are parasitic
Oliver Moore
Then war is needed
I don't see it that way. America has used its empire status to make itself the wealthiest nation in the world and industrialize in both manufacturing and technology. America is still on top of the world. The general population is ignorant, which is good, they should be kept ignorant and only 2% of society should really understand this.
What we need is to adapt, instead of invade countries with the military, we will use the NSA and CIA to blackmail and spread ideological propaganda into nations.
Kayden Jones
Did Trump drain the swamp?
Jonathan Gray
Not true. White people are like Jews, no matter how small of a percentage we are we will still be running things. In fact it will be even better because we will have more power relative to population.
There's enough good jobs for whites.
Adam Ortiz
>America has used its empire status to make itself the wealthiest nation in the world and industrialize in both manufacturing and technology. Lmao
Noah Foster
As long as the petrodollar exists the U.S will be on top of the world, and will be able to borrow and print as much as they want.
Juan Cruz
Yeah, he got rid of the Africans running the whitehouse.
Jonathan Sanchez
Silicon Valley still is the world technological center and U.S still produces more cars than any other nation.
Andrew Johnson
> to bring in a slave class of worker bees It's bad. Causes instability and war.
>The only people we shouldn't trade with are our financial and geopolitical enemies like Russia and China. We should have a directed trade policy that works towards our longterm geopolitical goals. People shouldn't be free to trade whatever they want, we should put tariffs on bad trades, and even subsidize good trades.
Liam Bennett
They just went to the media. The glow in the dark ones, anyways.
Samuel Edwards
So how come whites dont run south africa, zimbabwe, or zambia anymore? What about mexico and brazil?
Jayden Bennett
Thats neither possible nor ethical. America is going to fall, the only question is how hard. Civil war is guaranteed in the next ten to twenty years, possibly as soon as 2020-2024. Starting WW3 to keep the Petrodollar will accomplish nothing. This entire project was a mistake.
Keeping the population ignorant is not merely wicked, its stupid. If you lie and say wars are for virtue instead of money, nobody will let you wage war unless it seems right. People like Trump will actively stop you from carrying out wars you 'need' and you can't bring up the real reasons or arguments because your dumb ass lied and said our oil-wars were for 'peace' and 'democracy'.
Aaron Brown
I hope youre right bud and the standard neocon lines are true
James Cook
Honestly I'm not sure. I'm 65% sure I'd guess. What you say makes a lot of sense as well and I am scared. A lot of what i say is wishfull thinking i admit that.
William Parker
Agreed. These days it is cultural marxism that rules supreme. Trump the rino is no better.. obama's 3rd term
Zachary Nelson
We're all gonna make it
Aiden Butler
Yeah, white people will be running things until they hit around 50% and then the demands for reparations, handouts, preferential treatment in hiring practices and education, etc will turn to violence, followed by outright genocide. See: South Africa, Zimbabwe, Congo, Rwanda, etc. White people aren't like Jews. Jews are parasitic towards white people because they can get away with much more around whites than other groups.
Zachary Howard
how many dicks have breached the perimeter of bolton's greasy `tash.
Dylan Foster
He really is rather liberal
Brody Peterson
>Keeping the population ignorant is not merely wicked, its stupid. If you lie and say wars are for virtue instead of money, nobody will let you wage war unless it seems right That's why we have a CIA controlled media to tell people the wars are for humanitarian reasons. Operation Mockingbird worked like a charm for the most part
>Thats neither possible nor ethical. America is going to fall, the only question is how hard. Civil war is guaranteed in the next ten to twenty years, possibly as soon as 2020-2024. Starting WW3 to keep the Petrodollar will accomplish nothing. This entire project was a mistake. How would we ease off it without causing hyperinflation?
Thomas Martinez
Can't win every battle. Mexico and Brazil are still run by whites, both Mexico and Brazil have Presidents who are entirely European.
Zambia South Africa and Zimbabwe are failures though.
Easton Reed
rather? he is very liberal
Connor White
Yes, but they aren't in power.
Nicholas Evans
Just turn the other cheek, incel
Aaron Long
Trump is a neocon though, he's the ultimate neocon
Samuel Mitchell
And by "Trump" i don't mean the campaign Trump, i mean the actual Trump who's controlled by Bolton and Elliot Abrams.
Samuel Bell
Nop he is not. He is fiscally libertarian/conservative but socially he is obama's colleague. obama's 3rd term
Robert Ortiz
Muh judeo-christian civilisation.
Jeremiah Collins
That is a very good point. I never thought of it that way.
Samuel Gray
Is prison reform a big neocon talking point?
Luke Russell
Low IQ post
>Civil war is guaranteed You have to be joking. Who is going to fight?
>Muh ethics reality doesn't care about your ethics >b-but it'll have to be moral to seem right nobody cares, people want netflix and cheap dinner after work
Liam Sullivan
Then why have drone strikes, CIA ops, talks of interventionism, all increased under him.
And Obama was a neocon, he wrecked Libya, Yemen, and Syria.
The media is entirely distrusted, the public has turned against these wars due to simply being 'tired' of them, and not understanding the reasons for them or believing your lies think things like 'We need to help ourselves before we can help others'.
Its a farce. This project was doomed from the start and its architects were fools and those who carry out its designs are fools and the house will fall and that's it. Civil War and possibly World War and definetely hyper-inflation are the future you chose.
Charles Myers
It can be. I 100% support prisons since in American prison we have rehabilitation programs. I think that's great.
Adam White
I use to dislike neocons because I thought the pointless wars are bad but now I’m redpilled that we need to keep fighting wars to stay dominant and protect resources
Caleb Baker
I'm a lawyer and neoconservatives should be executed after a trial for treason due to their loyalties to the foreign enemy nation of Israel.
Can't we ease off it like how the British eased off their global-homo-Poundsterrling system when their empire fell? I don't think they had hyperinflation but they forced all international trade in the commonwealth to be done in pound sterrling.
Dylan Lee
Stay dominant for what reason exactly?
Jordan Davis
I'm in the same boat.
Juan Morgan
We are doing this for U.S interests.
Easton Nguyen
What plunder has there been in 20 years?
Adrian Long
>>strong Christian West >>Strong support for U.S military intervention >>Support for patriotic U.S departments like CIA and NSA >>Support for Israel (as they are a Western military base) >>Hatred against Russia, China, Syria, Iran, etc >>War on drugs >>Corporate work prisons
No one as yet to define no conservatism yet; I challenge one of you faggots
Actually it does. Actions have consequences, morals were created for a reason. The behavior you're boasting of isn't 'wrong' its counterproductive. The fact is you need popular support to fight a war of the scale you need, and you don't have it. And because you made all these wars out to be righteous crusades, you can't now backtrack and explain the actual tactical considerations that exist. Its all well in good to say 'Honesty isn't important, we real politic now' until you're caught in your own web and need the trust of people you've proven yourself untrustworthy too. As to 'civil war', it will be more akin to balkanization, happenning as soon as the economic pressure gets turned up high enough people can't 'netflix' their cares away.
tfw you realize we should have gone with the mongentheau plan
Blake Hall
Wrong. 6.5 trillion USD tax payer money spent fighting israels enemies and thousands of dead US soldiers and creating millions of enemies is not in the US interests.
If that is possible its a job for the economists. That is the only solution we have, somehow weaning off the Petrodollar so these wars become unnecessary.
Joseph Wilson
>implying the 80% of the NPC population can even bother to understand how any of this works and pretend to care about it in order to even have some sort of moral approval of it bruh
John Smith
Without US presence in the mid east, the forces that would arise in the vacuum would exert pressure on our trading partners and change their behaviors in a way that is bad for us.
We just need everybody to believe that we are the king and we are in control. That is the world order since the end of the cold war.
Jose Taylor
I would put Obama as one of those so-called neo-liberals. In the end, it's neo-something, thus it's all warmongers.
Tyler Hernandez
6.5 trillion? That wasn't tax money, that was borrowed money. And besides, the Iraq war got us the fourth largest oil field in the world. The Afghan war got us the largest opium fields in the world. The wars made America a larger super power.
Christopher Rodriguez
whatever nigger
Jaxon Sanders
-7 trillion dollar price tag -refugee waves -puppet governments who do a worse job than strongmen and will collapse ??? What hegemony?
Sebastian Gonzalez
Exxon Mobile owns the fourth largest oil reserve now.
Samuel Davis
As your attorney I advise you to kill yourself
William Mitchell
I thought this thread was about conservatives.. who cares about commies and cultural marxists like obama