The political landscape in germany is very much cucked. I have developed a program for a hypothetical party that could alieviate this issue.
The zip file contains the full information.
The main idea is to create a party that still resides within the overtone window, but allows for a widening of the window and further modifications.
it is a combination of the foundations of the american constitution with adapted, reworded and more precise/less brash points of the nsdap. there is no explicit mentioning of any (((enemies))) in the text, but the points of it are design to expose truth.
Some token lib talking points are left in it, but they are mostly counteracted by the application of other points.
It basicly is nice guy national socialism written down.
This is the link to a small anonymous chat, for the case of the thread being terminated:
chat room: tlk.io
channel name: nachhaltigfrei
>It would be nice to have people educated in economics, politics, social matters, ecology, etc. join the chat, as i am just some basement dweller and the political idea is probably full of holes.
Nicholas Torres
> Main talking points:
- rules of debate in politics - absolute freedom of speech - only net tax payers may vote (alternatively they get a second vote) - STRONG protection of minors - illegality of the propaganda of socialy/bodily/mental/ethnic/gouvernmental/economic/environmental self destructive behavior - reduced regulations in the middle class markets, better regulations in the higher clas markets - negative income tax to replace other social security programs - protection of the environment - no ban on nuclear power - "bouncer mentality" borders - real and digital privacy - promotion of self improvment - waste reduction - self sustainability on multiple levels
The basic premise is to speak to different politicaly invested people by showing them the common goals and the methods to reach them. mainly greens, afd, fdp and some small parties.
godspeed bro. I'm a member of Die Linke, because I thought, Sarah Wagenknecht and Fabio de Masi could gain traction, but the last 2 years were such a shitshow, it's utterly disappointing.
Unsere Parteienlandschaft widert mich einfach nur noch an.
Anthony Myers
An anti-migration, self improvement-promoting, pro-individuality, pro market, environmentalist, social party. In other words... National Socialism.
Julian Young
Hast du die Zip datei? da steht alles drin.
die meisten sachen kann man auch normies unterjubeln, habe ich schon ein paar mal gemacht
Luke Howard
yes, but nicer.
in the complete text (Zip) being anti imigration is not once mentioned.
It only mentions nice, orderly and true to law asylum procedures.
The immigration is based on lawfulness and willingness to participate neatly in the state.
Of course this ends most immigration, but it sounds nice and the bluepilled truely think this would prevent non but the violent criminals from immigration
David Gutierrez
Sounds nice. I wish you nothing but success. I think you should at some point in the future perhaps aim to only make the capital and/or the most industrial cities a place where other ethnicities could live. So most of the country remains Germanic and there always are pure German only communities. All countries and all peoples deserve to live under national socialism.
Elijah Green
>Pic Not green enough
Elijah James
lol get fucked, lying nazi weeaboo
Josiah Wood
The proposed party is a gate to the future. what ever happens next happens.
the english talking points could possibly be applied to other countries, so feel free to take inspiration
subverting mainstream leftest parties probably will be more effective then founding a new one. they all already have anti-migration wings within them. These only have to be strengthened.
David Sullivan
You're fucking retarded. There, I elaborated, nazi scum. lol
Gavin Johnson
>voting for Die Linke A nuke probably would be less destructive for Germany then fucking Communists
Dylan Thomas
could work, but i have not much faith in it.
fixing the demographics, banking, corporate laws and environment is outside of the mainstream parties scope, as they don't acknowledge the first two problems and are to shilled to fix the second two, even if migration is slowed.
and they would only reinstate civic nationalism.
good luck non the less, if you are trying to subvert them. i try to redpill as many as i can without revealing my power level at uni.
politics isn't made by talking points anyway. politics is the result of circumstance. Germany is economically in the best situation ever and we had a hot summer. So everyone votes green. If we have another Financial crisis, Italy goes bankrupt, the Euro zone falls apart, hundreds of companies go bankrupt, unemployment, Russia thinks it is a good time to invade Ukraine, then ... what will people care about?
When you want to build something, you have to work for nothing for a long time until the situation changes and then your time has come.
Asher Bell
You first Klaus.
That you allowed a ex-communist to run your country for so long is just awesome.
Jayden Nelson
what about you?
>t. Student and my tutor couldn't give less of a shit about my attention
Mason Garcia
i never voted for her. a coup won't work either.
Charles Brooks
As soon as they hear an ounce of "anti immigration" stuff, all of the good ideas go overboard and nullified. You cant reason with leftists im afraid, the brainwashing is in terminal stage.
Hunter Scott
Thats the problem right?
Alles mubt ordnung sein.
Your fear of authority is what allows such to rule over you with impunity.
Andrew Hernandez
and i am trying to get a small party running now, so we are ready when we are needed. otherwise some controlled opposition will likely just take the place. and i don't want any more totalitarianism than now.
i bet on the green party fucking up the economy or not changing anything. this would turn many people to the right as a last resort, but most right wing options are shit, so i am trying to create a good option for once.
in addition the text is not strictly anti imigration, there are even points that could help accepted asylum seekers to find a job. it only counters illegal immigration, while creating a controlled way in. it also only targets criminals in the country.
the results (that it will have) are "totaly not" intended, they are just emerging behavior.
Gabriel Parker
i hope you find relaxation
Owen Baker
This party can only work if we clowpill every german and then redpill them. It sounds nice and I am all for pro-market national socialism especially if it means preserving the integrity of native culture and a somewhat "traditional" way of life in the west. However I don't see thi working in country like germany. Almost all your people are brainwashed libtards and sinkheads who think that they are voting for right parties and leaders while not realising the the righ has disolved completely and is getting increasingly liberal. Germany is very likely too far gone but perhaps proposing the creation of such a party will serve as the first step in the long and arduous process of making europeans care about politics and their futures once agaij instead of hating their race and feeling shame for their history. Good luck! Jk we live in a clown world desu so don't expect any success. Honk Honk
Greece finds itself in a similar situation. Thankfully both the left and right have evaporated here and it no longer matters wether it's the conservatives or the progressives in charge since all of them have gravitated towards the center and are indistinguishable from one an other.
William Cruz
Lmao I wish you the best man but I don't think such a silent majority exists. And even if it did it woukd take a revolution for them to wake up. An let's be honest, thre will be no german revolution. Or will there...?
der dritte weg? das sind wirklich LARPer. Bestimmt auch noch viel V-Männer. Und die Punkte von denen sind kurzsichtig und zu totalitär.
Jeremiah Howard
germans historicaly have waited very long for revolutions, but when they do, the go full krautism
Nathaniel Parker
dennoch wichtig für die "normalen" parteien, die ziehen stimmen ab von den AFD-lern. Wieder so ein pool für extremisten wenn die NPD langsam langweilig wird.
Luis Ramirez
>Download this random zip file Fuck off, post your text in pastebin or something if it's too long to post it here or host it as pdf somewhere. I'm not going to download some sketchy zip file. What I want is a right-wing green party so normies don't have to vote far-left if they care about the environment.
Christopher Wright
genau das selbe spiel wie mit der npd, wie du schon sagst.
ich glaube trotzdem, dass eine grünkonservative partei viel mehr stimmen sammeln könnte als die afd. und sonst gibts koalitionen.
>alternative voting system to the one presented in the pastebin:
- Net Taxpayers (Person that receives no direct monetary benifits by the state/ carry their own monetary burden on the necessary sectors of inner and outer security, Justice, finance and basic administration; disregarding the allowance) receive a second honorary vote. - Fights abusage of the UBI
- Only the recent tax status of citizens of working age is utilized
Levi Morales
part 2:
Regulations:
- Students and people learning a trade get a 15% extra vote called future investion vote - the voting hurdle may be lowered according to the size of your company, because smaller companies make less money than bigger ones regardless of competence - retirees may pay a low fee for the right to the honorary vote - retirees that were net tax payers in their working years aquire a 15% extra vote called wisdom vote - handicapped people/ people in medical treatment have a lower hurdle according to their disability. People medically unable to work can pay the retiree fee for the right to vote - people of working age living of their savings may pay a fee higher then the base hurdle to the honorary vote - veterans have a lowered hurdle - political activities can be undertaken regardless of the voting status - custody benifits are taxed half as the senders and half as receivers income - There is a minimal partion of honorary voters of at least 1/4 the people of voting age. This is calculated by the enlarging the pool of honorary voter to the next biggest set of percentile tax payers. If no definable set of 1/4 is found, the next bigger set is searched for. - Child benefits are disregarded in the calculation - Mothers and farthers of at least two children that have graduated from school and have no criminal record ( until they are of age) have a lowered hurdle - Financial packages and subsidations to sectors are disregarded in the calculation - The wisdom vote and future investment vote do not stack with the honorary vote
Partei Mensch Umwelt Tierschutz (Tierschutzpartei)
Ökologisch-Demokratische Partei (ÖDP)
Ökologische Linke (ÖkoLinX)
PARTEI FÜR DIE TIERE DEUTSCHLAND
Allianz für Menschenrechte, Tier- und Naturschutz (Tierschutzallianz)
Aktion Partei für Tierschutz – DAS ORIGINAL (TIERSCHUTZ hier!)
habe die Strom-statt-Brot-Politik hier jeden Tag vor den Nase. Raps und Mais für Biogas- und Sprit überall. Wünsche mir die Pfeifenköpfe von den Grünen müssten auch hier wohnen.
William Gomez
> Some possible cover names
- "Die goldene Mitte" (The golden mean) - "Die aufgeklährte Konservative" (The enlightened conservatives) - "Partei: voran" (Forward) - "Partei Nachhaltigkeit und Zukunft" ( Sustainability and future) - "Pragmatische Liberale" (Pragmatic liberals) -"Soziale Libertäre Konservative" (Social libertarian conservative) - "Grüne Konservative" (Green conservative) - "Freie Grüne" (Free green party)
absolute free speech was a misnomer by my part. there are a few limitations: - protection of minors - no direct instruction to violence - no propaganda to self inflicted violence - protection against character assasination
Matthew Smith
do you revoke your turkish citizenship? do you follow no legal system besides the german one? do you revoke sharia and the expansionist tendencies of islam? do you want to further the german state as a scientifi and free country? do you not oppose the furthering of the ethnicaly german people?
Cooper Edwards
>absolute freedom of speech >illegality of the propaganda of socialy/bodily/mental/ethnic/gouvernmental/economic/environmental self destructive behavior
Owen Murphy
kurd or real turkish ?
Austin Myers
I only live the german culture. I'm not muslim, and I hate islam. I see myself as a german, and I want, that my homecountry is going to be a better place.
Elijah Nelson
propaganda =/= talking about it, discussing it or making fun of it.
propaganda = trying to deliberately insert ideas with taylored, often fallacious, arguments and mental tricks.
Jaxon Diaz
can you definetly answer all the questions i asked with yes?
Justin Smith
( except maybe the part of the sharia advising women to bare children and be housemakers)
Jason Cook
If your party where to take power in Germany, would Turks that have been here for a few generations be allowed to stay, leech off the universal basic income and breed like roaches? If not, how do you get them out? Anyone could just say yes to the questions you asked.
Luke Richardson
yes, if you get sterilized
Easton Watson
read the file (TL:DR of it anyways)
here's what I like: >free speech contra hatespeech >Universal basic income + negative income tax >Everything under 'Kernpunkte' >simpification of tax-regulation >ideas for 'economic entity' laws
here's what I dislike: >taxpayer voting exclusivity >EU "national sovereignity"
Personally I think you're overestimating the draw of right-wing conservative political ideas.
Ironically the 'progressive left' has been active for so long in Germany that there exists such a thing as a 'conservative left' voting base.
These are the people that have voted SPD in West and PDS/Die Linke in East Germany and are now switching.
David Russell
these questions are to be measured on criminal reports, a longer disscussion, economic factors, etc.
the direct questioning is only the smallest part.
if they leech of wellfare, they have no or only a practicaly half right to vote, which would result in their situation deteriorating until they fuck of or become criminal, in which case the would be kicked or put into the prescribed ( oversighted working and housing programs).
as i said, the system is a starting point for the truth to arise.
to them breeding like roaches: there are niffty things regarding this in the full text.
and white birthrates would be restored by the implemented politics.
nice, yet brutaly efficient.
Easton Baker
I bring this point up whenever Europeans fall back to the American constitution when they discuss reform: you already have a workable historic constitution? Why not use your own? It's like when I have to hear Canadians drone on about how their system isn't "modern" enough since it has a monarch, because they equate "modern" with "American", when nothing could be further from the truth.
Seriously, that document made Germany into the most powerful nation its ever been and you don't use it for stupid reasons. It makes sense since its a German system. I get if you don't want to use it for some reason, but at least move to another ethnically German political system like the Swiss Constitution over copy/pasting the American one. A republic doesn't even make sense in Germany because your people had kings for a millennium and it was only once you got an elected head of state that things went to shit.
If you want an American constitution then you can keep your current consitutional law since its already a rip off of the American legal system.
The idea that you can leech off welfare is fundamentally false. Welfare money is overwhelmingly used for consumerism... which generates tax and social security income.
The only 'leeching' that's overall possible is that of receiving welfare and sending the money out-market (aka sending it to turkey) which is still debatable as long as we have an export deficit with turkey.
Jacob Diaz
Nationalism but without antisemitism and antilgbtism.
Hudson Young
>self destructive behavior What destructive for you, its not for me Huge blonde SS chad can powerlift until its an addiction and he has joint problems
Evan Ross
>dystopia, no green foot walks
Thomas Gonzalez
Jews will have to be removed eventually, otherwise we will never leave the cycle.
Hunter Campbell
ice idea, i would help to make the party programm better by adding points like >reforming education system (more discipline, more oppurtunities/better conditions to work as teacher since we need them badly) >opening the eyes of the mainstream for free energies like magnet motors (i have blueprints and 2003 they should be produced in china but it was (((canceled)))) >ultimate transperency in warfare and export of weapons and also a stop of participating in warfare/fighting against it >no wars no migration >revealing psychical secrets in the mainstream like mental healing (i have plenty sources by cia documents) and other abilities also for economies sake >legalize it
have you read the alternative voting system proposal?
the limited voting is necessary to prevent/reduce wellfare leeching.
economic ability in a fair system is also a good indicator for intelligence and conscientiousness. the two things needed in voters to make a democracy somewhat functional.
the eu is to be reformed into a confederation to defend against other world powers and resolve local issues.
national sovereignity is to be restored.
the economic regulations proposed in the main body are mostly left winged. the only real right winged idea is the changed right to vote and the more free middle class market.
the other things are centrist, with an inbuild function to allow right wing politics if the voters (see what i did there) so demand.
i hope i don't underestimate the draw of these ideas that is to come in the near future.
Isaac Hall
We don't need a party. Normal people can govern themselves. I don't need some lardass politician to tell me what to believe and I don't need any laws to tell me what is right or wrong. There is such a thing as morals that every normal human is born with. You can see it in children often, they usually know what is right and what is wrong.
Liam Howard
You have a great plataform friend, seems like what Abe does arround here The key thing thou, at least in the west is marketing and branding
Noah Davis
Also a good answer, but this is not what this thread is about
Connor Campbell
My idea is: All 4 One One 4 All or All 4114 All - 4114 First party with only numerals should also get autismos to vote Sorry digga aber das logo sieht zu sehr aus wie benz stern Lieber was in richtung deutsche eiche
Ethan Nelson
i only brought up the american constitution as an example on how to supplement the german constitution. namely the first and second amendment. and the higher power of the president, which would fall in line with the old monarchical ways of germany.
the president should also have a basicly infinite term lenght, but with a system to dethrone him by a public vote.
Ryder Diaz
Imagine the amount of insects in that place.
David Diaz
Until the full control of the media as Orban does, and then there is no way to dethrone the tyrant
Julian Harris
>the limited voting is necessary to prevent/reduce wellfare leeching.
As explained above, the idea of 'wellfare leeching' is a neoliberal lie with no basis in economic science. Plus, most people want to work.
Taking their voting ability would directly lead to an elitist society where the poor and downtrodden could only resort to violence to achieve lasting change - not a good idea.
gtg now will check in later
Xavier Murphy
> keynesian broken window fallacy.
wellfare does not create value, it only makes it circulate faster. people who have their money taken could have invested it into actual growth.
Eli Robinson
You infuse the rain with glyphosate.
Colton Diaz
if the guy was not propagandized into lifting until his knees break, there is no problem. sport is healthy in general, but everything overdone is harmfull.
if his chadbro encourages him to continue with broken knees, he could be fined.
the rules of debate should find the commoin sense answer to this situation.
Christian Sanders
> - negative income tax to replace other social security programs Dysgenic economics of idiots. Get rid of that communist crap.
Make instead a self sufficient standardized unemployment insurance. Insurance = great; Free gibs for nothing = idiot.
I have more: - Free up TV frequencies to enable a community organized open source mesh internet.
Thomas Young
the whole system i propose promotes honest work and fucks over greedy and subvertive jews.
so either they leave by themselfes, or they are found out as subverting the state, which would make them terrorists.
Kevin Roberts
imagine alle the people who spend there money to drugs at the beginning of the "hartz-month".
then they are able to sell it to other "hartzers" and make profit. real stories.
wellfare has to be more under controll.
Alexander Wood
kek
these points are mentioned in the full text version
(except the spirituality ones. i promote psychological and physical well being and (mostly) religious freedom. so spirituality is fine)
Robert Jackson
ok, ich kann das mit dem benz logo sehen :')
Jack Lopez
a gouverment of some sort is somewhat necessary to defend against outside forces and organized inside threads, as well as making internal logistics easier.
the shrinkage of gouerment and introduction of public votes should reduce the problem of disconected politicians.
