Religion?

Pol is Jewish

the only thing that unites Jow Forums is a generalized anti-liberal attitude. apart from that this is the most ideologically diverse place on the internet.

any other

Jow Forums is clearly newfag

This is pretty accurate.

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go data mine somewhere else shill

>Sweden
Chances of your sister sucking BBC is high, I'd be more worried about that.

Jow Forums is mostly agnostic/atheist but culturally/morally Christian

What do you3x() think , kike?

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fuckoff im on mobile

>getting genuinely mad when man does evil
No friend. You can't rely on the white race for goodness any more than you can build a house on sand. It is at best the least of many evils.

>Jews making pro-Christian threads
You retard?

Jow Forums is a board of rabbis

>Jesus was a shepherd. Jews see goyim as livestock.

Wake up faggot.

Hindu, you blind sheep of an NPC religion.

ARIUS

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how can you be redpilled and believe in this religion shit, it's the ultimate bluepill.

Christians on Jow Forums are even denying evolution, I mean holy shit retardville

I've had Christians on here say they believe in evolution, when it benefits their argument.

Ultimate mental gymnasts.

what are you talking about schizo?

Religion is extremely important. If you kill and imprison people for something it won't be the nature of the race after a time. That's civilization selection. In races what varies the most is the effectiveness of the law.

Jow Forums is a board of peace

The fear of going to Hell if you don't follow a retarded set of guidelines is CASTRATION.

That's why Christians are cucks. They are neutered.

The only theistic objection to evolution is humans seeming from an object like bacteria. Everything undergoes evolution but humans are a divinely created being that granted can evolve and devolve. See Adam and his sons height lifespan etc as well as certain groups of humans being cursed into lesser beings.

From what I have seen the majority of the board is atheist, but I'm a deist that believes in heaven. Inb4 retard

Castration is what jews do to their kids and render them psychotic kikes also faggify them them with homosexual induction to jewdaism. Metzxitzah Ha.

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Spot on

It's obv. Not , you stupid kike, nomatter how much you yell christcuck

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Do you write shit like this just to read it yourselves? Astounding!

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This. If you believe in ghosts you're likely to be mentally deficient, probably low 80s IQ.

If you died today do you know for sure you're going to Heaven?

Here's how you can know for certain: youtu.be/WDEBz25lGdY\

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
>that ye may know that ye have eternal life

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>not being a thelemite

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>Pol
>We
>Jews pushing pro-Christian anything
>Reddit spacing

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Never used reddit in my life. You're just an upset Christcuck boomer.

I believe in memeflags causing cancer.

Kek
Uh...no.

slaves do not have opinions
begone, kike

It's not true , the boomers just lurk in here and kikes try to spit the dick lodged down their throat by History.

Our minds are not for rent
To any God or government.

>we
Raus

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There is no Christian heaven. Stop being so attached to your fucking personality, emotions and egos to the point that you need to believe they will exist eternally. It's so stupid.

Pagan

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Maybe someone should start a straw poll?

Probably not atheist because to deny the spirit of the individual and your people is lame. Not Christian because they will always betray the race. Maybe pagan but I barely see it on here anymore. So maybe agnostic

Esoterics master race reporting in.

Of course there is, if you have filth in your atom you burn after death, if no filthy no suffering : paradise

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Jewish .

I do not mind whether Christianity or a form of Paganism becomes dominant for they are both of the Aryan ideal representing the continually recurring archetypal patterns of God and Psyche. Take the Christian religion for example, it would not be what it is today if it were not for that central sacrificial myth. Now take Norse mythology, Odin as he hung on the tree and self sacrificed himself for the knowledge of the runes, for a spiritual enlightenment, and what is this gaining of knowledge within the Pagan ways where in which Odin claimed the runes if not for the cleansing of sin? And what is the death of the physical if not the rebirth of the spiritual? This archetypal rebirth is present among that of all great cultures, the Egyptian Pyramids are built in such way to simulate that of a womb and it is said that the Kings would simulate that of a death and eventual rebirth from its many tunnels, or that of the Masons who for an initiation would hit the initiate down with the strike of a hammer on the temple (third eye) and be caught and lifted back forth anew, or the four stages of alchemical transformation known within the Hermetic works of alchemy where in which they would turn lead to gold. The first stage being Nigredo the death, the blackening and this form can be found most famously among that of the Black Sun and as this Sun is composed of the Sig runes and sun wheels and Swastika's it can be said to be the death and so eventual rebirth of the race for rebirth must always follow death as a matter of principle. Secondly we have Albedo the whitening and rebirth of itself into the spirit, the cleansing of the impurities. Thirdly (although often excluded) we have that of Citrinitas the yellowing and transference from the reflective light of Lunar to that of the Sun itself Solar, to stare into the heart of the Spirit instead and not its image on the waters surface.

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Lastly we have Rubedo or redness the final stage and completion of the Magnum Opus and spiritual enlightenment where in which the soul of lead has been transfigured to that of a soul of Gold. All of these many examples expressing this eternal archetype of self sacrifice, of death and rebirth present with this very transfiguration of Odin himself for he was pierced by the same spear as that of Christ, the spear of destiny in which runs through all of us, our blood, our race, our Volk. For they are one and the same Wotan and Christ, whether theologically or psychologically it need not matter, yet it need not tear us apart as brothers bound by blood.

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The most damaging sword to that of self revelation and Individuation has hindered man for his entire reign as the master of reality but yet is vastly more prevalent among the degeneracy of modern civilisation, it has crushed so many men's attempt to find truth and this sword was that of the concept that the thought means nothing.

The main point behind these is that the light of life/soul is independent to the physical state of the body yet by casting yourself into a state nearing death you can aquire a glimpse of the divine light that encompasses our race. This divine light reveals knowledge that would not be available to an individual or perhaps knowledge the individual didn't know he possessed.
In some ways sleep mimics this. Each night we lay to rest and the waking mind ceases activity only to be replaced with great understanding and knowledge that often fades upon waking.
The truth to acquiring the state of unending knowledge or gnosis is first to empty the mind of waking thought. Next is to ignite a reaction from the Divine Light. Through sacrifice, sleep, drugs or meditation this can be achieved although each method has its downsides. Finally is the need to reconnect with the waking mind and allow the revelation to enter the individual self so that he may use the knowledge to help mankind.

On the other hand there is demonology and shit. Don't do that stuff.

>The main point behind these is that the light of life/soul is independent to the physical state of the body yet by casting yourself into a state nearing death you can aquire a glimpse of the divine light that encompasses our race. This divine light reveals knowledge that would not be available to an individual or perhaps knowledge the individual didn't know he possessed.
I am inclined to agree with you user though I do believe it is much more philosophically inclined and less simplistic this is still correct.

>In some ways sleep mimics this. Each night we lay to rest and the waking mind ceases activity only to be replaced with great understanding and knowledge that often fades upon waking.
Similar yes in the way that we see our unconscious selves, our inhereted archetypal motives within the symbolic form of the subconscious.

>The truth to acquiring the state of unending knowledge or gnosis is first to empty the mind of waking thought. Next is to ignite a reaction from the Divine Light. Through sacrifice, sleep, drugs or meditation this can be achieved although each method has its downsides. Finally is the need to reconnect with the waking mind and allow the revelation to enter the individual self so that he may use the knowledge to help mankind.
>On the other hand there is demonology and shit. Don't do that stuff.

Again I totally agree with you though I do think suffering and meaning play a greater role but it is correct in effect. Also user I have wondered, how does that of the archetype align with that of the theological?

i'm personally agnostic. im not religious but i appreciate the value religion has for society.

>On the other hand there is demonology and shit. Don't do that stuff.
that's how I convert to Orthodoxy

Oh and just wanted to say I'm an Aussie but everytime I reset my router for shitposting itt changes my IP to a British one though my IP is still not on the official British IP list for some reason. I just gathered I have said to much and so I was put on a 5 eyes watching list and my data gets funnelled through Britain intelligence agency's. Shame Jow Forums has become a honeypot of sorts though it's still the centre of our ideology and must stay up. I no longer care if they know who I am.

Demographics have probably changed a bit over the past few years but there were a number of polls taken within a few months period sometime around 2015ish that determined it was pretty well split, about 40% each for Christians and atheists, with meme religions and shit making up the other 20%.

It's retarded to fight about though. Either you're pro-white or you aren't. Worry about minute differences after we win.

And then there was you know, actual history. Th metaphysical realm of the bible as states in Genesis, Enoch, the Psalms, the Gospers, is of a fundamental different nature.

As a matter of fact, the old pantheons of gods were nephilim or nephilimic spirits. They've all been washed away with the flood... lol what a bunch of cucks.

Each religion has it's own method of viewing or awakening the unconsious. Catholics like to use prayer and incense along with meditation to achieve this.
The idea of self-sacrifice does come in to play as Christians (and Jews/Muslims) refrain from certain pleasures of the flesh to try and become closer with the divine. Food and sex in particular. The idea is to still the mind and by abstaining from your desires you can gradually see the outline of the soul seperate from the flesh that houses it. Some religions completely miss the point such as Protestant Christians who refuse the use of incense or even basic idolatry which causes them to frequently become detatched from the faith and become atheist. Sad really.

Yes .

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>And then there was you know, actual history. Th metaphysical realm of the bible as states in Genesis, Enoch, the Psalms, the Gospers, is of a fundamental different nature.
>As a matter of fact, the old pantheons of gods were nephilim or nephilimic spirits. They've all been washed away with the flood... lol what a bunch of cucks.
Yea I remember really looking into the Giants theory and posted a ton of stuff on /x/, now it's a common theory on /x/ and Jow Forums. Smithsonian covered a lot of the giants thing up.

It seems likely that there was a pe-history civilisation that was prior to the younger dryas flood caused by the meteor that hit Iceland. All these Gods were likely just a superior human class - if you could still call such ideal Aryans human. Anyhow the symbolic and archetypal content cannot be denied any less.

>Each religion has it's own method of viewing or awakening the unconsious. Catholics like to use prayer and incense along with meditation to achieve this.
>The idea of self-sacrifice does come in to play as Christians (and Jews/Muslims) refrain from certain pleasures of the flesh to try and become closer with the divine. Food and sex in particular. The idea is to still the mind and by abstaining from your desires you can gradually see the outline of the soul seperate from the flesh that houses it. Some religions completely miss the point such as Protestant Christians who refuse the use of incense or even basic idolatry which causes them to frequently become detatched from the faith and become atheist. Sad really.
Agreed absolutely user. This self abstinence is to truly look into life as it is, the heart of it which is total pain and pessimism and reaffirm life by it. Without this internal suffering which the great man must deal with there is nothing in life as even this suffering is just at once a fragment of purposeless in itself and so they must become conscious of themselves for meaning of the great and the pessimistic to occur.

Have you read Hegel and Schopenhauer user? Also I do not agree with the concept that the physical and spirit are two differing things for we can see that the body is not simply a vehicle as it intertwines with the mind so perfectly and unknowingly. The physical is simply an illusion, a product of the eternal spirit - I'm an Idealist.

Pic related, listening to American Pie.

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You've strayed into gnosticism. Buddha described existence as you do and the Cathars also saw the physical as something that needed to be abandoned to become 'perfect'.
The body is the vehicle of the soul. As you say the two are interlinked but it is through the body that action occurs. The soul is brilliant shining with knowledge and understanding but it's through the body that we turn this brilliance into something that the world can see. A dream that isn't followed by action merely fades away. The body also influences the perception of the soul. Without the body we would be as a dreamer, constantly drifting without purpose or objective. It's through the body and the physical world that we can shape the dreams into something that brightens the world.

Life can be considered to hold its own purpose. By living we ensure that the light of the soul never goes out. Even though most of us will lack much brightness, together as a race we still shine gloriously.

>You've strayed into gnosticism.
I find Gnosticism to be a very broad term but I understand.

>Buddha described existence as you do and the Cathars also saw the physical as something that needed to be abandoned to become 'perfect'.
With what I have said however I do not think the physical is something to be rejected, it is what it is and quantum physics seems to be supplying scientific evidence for Idealist philosophy.

(The physical) Reality should be accepted along with it's tragic pessimism for it is this that makes it such a beautiful sight. To strive beyond this pessimism by this pessimism is all the great man can do. Beauty is a sad thing. Also Christianity's largest influence apart from Zoroastrianism was Buddhism brought back by Alexander the great's conquests of India. Christianity and Buddhism both nail in the total pessimism of life though Christianity reaffirms life instead of rejecting it by this notion as it can be easily seen a rejection of the physical world within Christianity but as stated prior to a different effect than to ultimately reject existence itself. Action occurs through the body yes but the spiritual is the true underlying reality. I totally agree with you user, the true spiritual does not have time and so no space, and so no action may occur except for a state of pure being which is in itself contradictory. We see reality through a subjective lens if you will and that is shape, and colour, the thing in itself for Kant was that which is apart from us and is not coated in the subjective perception. We know perception is not just seeing objective reality for the intent of the perception and whether or not it is being perceived drastically effects the quantum realms. It would be selfish to reject the physical world because of its intent suffering though for me I never understood the absolute rejection of suffering for I always found it to be the most beautiful. God is that thing in itself underlying objective.

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>Life can be considered to hold its own purpose. By living we ensure that the light of the soul never goes out. Even though most of us will lack much brightness, together as a race we still shine gloriously.
I love you user, I really do. And I too wish for myself and our race to shine gloriously as the Sun which gives light to the Universe but the sad fact remains that reality contains no inherent meaning for we only have the Socratic rationalism and all that leads to is circular logic and meaninglessness. That is why things must become conscious of itself and create that of a subsidiary collective of existence which in itself gives meaning to the pessimism. We must fight yes but we must accept the cold harsh reality and its effectual meaninglessness which expresses itself in the phrase; God is dead.

You don't speak for me motherfucker. I'm Russian orthodox cunt.

Infact you don't speak for any of us new queer.

I trend towards the opposite view regarding God. We can work towards a brighter future as a race. By enlightening more people the light/flame of our collective existence becomes brighter and by enlightening the self we create the path that others may take.
The exact nature of reality may be up for debate but there is a clear direction that needs to be taken and a clear tribulation if we depart. The idea behind theology is that this path has been created for us by a divine being we know as God. Perhaps he is merely a collective soul that travelled prior to us or perhaps he is an omnipotent diety that created the path but it is hard to deny that this guiding entity exists.

Our perception is important. Although we do not see reality as it truly is we still get a pretty good picture and without this picture it becomes difficult to shape the knowledge of the divine. In our dreams we see many things and we have many interpretations of these things but a guiding constant is that we recognize these things. You may see a house, a door, a dog or someone bearing a name. Without the perception of the physical it would be a monumentous task to even start exploring the spiritual world. Therefore the physical world could be considered a reflection of the spiritual world and by action within the physical we can affect the spiritual. An easy example of this is the use of incense. It easily invites a feeling of the spiritual but that alone isn't enough. One has to first recieve the aid in the form of the incense but then he has to grasp the aid with his spirit to truly benefit. This is why many religious figures state that the first task on the path to being uplifted spiritually is to believe in and accept what you are reading/have been told.

Based. Atheism will save the white race.

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>I trend towards the opposite view regarding God. We can work towards a brighter future as a race. By enlightening more people the light/flame of our collective existence becomes brighter and by enlightening the self we create the path that others may take.
>The exact nature of reality may be up for debate but there is a clear direction that needs to be taken and a clear tribulation if we depart. The idea behind theology is that this path has been created for us by a divine being we know as God. Perhaps he is merely a collective soul that travelled prior to us or perhaps he is an omnipotent diety that created the path but it is hard to deny that this guiding entity exists.
I agree user but that does not supply inherent meaning in life, it gives us meaning yes and ability to sustain meaning but not meaning in itself. I agree absolutely this God exists but that does not change man's existential crisis.

I am not saying a reality does not exist apart from man's individual perception however that does not make it objective. And yes of course for our only image is this reality, even our emotional archetypes are that of formulated by our physical reality's images. user I hope you don't think I advertising to reject the physical world because that is absolutely not what I suggest, I believe we should conquer this physical reality and embrace its tragic nature. Because we are physical beings we must understand spirit by the physical for that is the one we are most familiar with consciously and we cannot inspect unconsciously. The incense has absolutely no inherent meaning or effect it is only man who projects a biological effect onto it which therefore has a Neuro-chemical effect causing a psychological change allowing for whatever spiritual enlightenment he wishes to pursue.

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Yes I agree that we should follow the scriptures for its psychological effect/spiritual whether its metaphysical or psychological I do not believe it matters), however we, all the greater men must live with the fact that all we know of God is that he exists.

God is with us

Ahhh damn it I was too late to get the 214569999 or 214570000

I believe in the God I found when I meditated, I suspect this makes me some kind of monist pagan or given the results of trying out religions, a gnostic.

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My point about incense was merely that the physical influences our perception of the spiritual. By accepting the incense the devotee can aquire stimulous towards a spiritual understanding (however minor that may be) with little in the way of effort. Therefore it is a group of useful substances for promoting the doorway to the truth known as religion. Whether they are right or wrong about the nature of God matters less than the fact they draw people into understanding spiritualism. Those who have not even tried and merely live their day to day life as beasts are countless in number and increasing day to day with the advent of atheism and related thoughts.

To find an inherent meaning in life would be to examine it in it's entirety. I'll be the first to admit that I lack such capability. However my ignorance in this matter doesn't imply that a meaning does not exist. Man is fortunate in that a path has already been paved for us. As long as we follow the path perhaps we will find that inherent meaning. For now our inherent meaning could be considered to be to discover the true meaning.

>My point about incense was merely that the physical influences our perception of the spiritual. By accepting the incense the devotee can aquire stimulous towards a spiritual understanding (however minor that may be) with little in the way of effort.
Wasn't disagreeing with you user but wanted to exemplify how reality depends upon man even if it was a bad example. It's the same thing with Symbols, the upside down pentagram isn't inherently Evil and does not inherently attract Evil but it is what it represents in our minds.

>Therefore it is a group of useful substances for promoting the doorway to the truth known as religion. Whether they are right or wrong about the nature of God matters less than the fact they draw people into understanding spiritualism. Those who have not even tried and merely live their day to day life as beasts are countless in number and increasing day to day with the advent of atheism and related thoughts.
I agree, Religion will always be necessary for Religion at least exists on a psychological level though I do think it exists on a metaphysical level in some way. I remember trying a Hindu mantra and mediation as a teen and reaching what I could only describe as a short burst of Nirvana on my third try. Was pretty amazing experience though I can do it often now. Atheism is the greatest threat to our existence.

To find an inherent meaning in life would be to examine it in it's entirety. I'll be the first to admit that I lack such capability. However my ignorance in this matter doesn't imply that a meaning does not exist. Man is fortunate in that a path has already been paved for us. As long as we follow the path perhaps we will find that inherent meaning. For now our inherent meaning could be considered to be to discover the true meaning.

But you see than we got into Socratic rationality as I mentioned earlier and so circular logic. "What is the purpose of this, and then so what is the purpose of that, and then so why have that"

Unfortunately the limits of our knowledge restrict the possibility for us forming anything which isn't circular knowledge. Under the right circumstances we might get a taste of the truth but as it stands nobody has been able to explain it in a manner that others can understand. We use such circular knowledge to make sure that we don't get sidetracked too badly while investigating other knowledge.

As for the pentagram you should be orienting it towards a certain point so while it may appear upside down as you move around the symbol it will still be rightway up in regards to the ritual. Unless you WANT to summon a demon but like I said earlier that's black magic, don't do that stuff. The difference between Theurgy and Goetia might appear small but the results are of opposite nature.

Thought you lads could use the latest hot magic advice from /x/

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If you want to just fall headfirst into /x/ with no safety net then just take DMT. No need to bother with talking to yourself or cheese.

Naw, I don't really wanna do these things, I think I'll just stick to qigong, meditation worked, I found the Divine.

The destination matters more than the path.

Can’t wait for cuckchan’s new cock transformation religion.

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>Unfortunately the limits of our knowledge restrict the possibility for us forming anything which isn't circular knowledge. Under the right circumstances we might get a taste of the truth but as it stands nobody has been able to explain it in a manner that others can understand. We use such circular knowledge to make sure that we don't get sidetracked too badly while investigating other knowledge.
Exactly though Hegel attempted by the dialectical nature of history and the pessimistic itself developing consciousness. It is difficult to explain for Hegel talked in both metaphysical as well as societal ways.

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As for the pentagram you should be orienting it towards a certain point so while it may appear upside down as you move around the symbol it will still be rightway up in regards to the ritual. Unless you WANT to summon a demon but like I said earlier that's black magic, don't do that stuff. The difference between Theurgy and Goetia might appear small but the results are of opposite nature.
I agree that was my point it is entirely psychological. If someone was raised believing the upside down Pentagram was a Symbol of Good over Evil it would likely have that effect (even if it goes against what little psychological effect the shape off the star has on us).

Always relied on /x/. They got my through my hauntings
>when in doubt just flash your dong about

We are spiritual free people, at least that's what we should be, who want to know things, and dig deeper in our spiritual-racial history - but there are also a lot of christians who want to blindly believe some spook, who want to have easy answers and plebs-guidelines for God, they're a bit annoying with their static neurosis, and their fetish for superficiality.

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fuck off, pantheism/cosmotheism will save the white race.

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