Are you content with living the rest of your life without a wife or children?
It's so common these days for young guys to to reach their 30s or 40s without a wife or long-term romantic partner, not to mention kids. A lot of MGTOW guys on Youtube make it seem like living alone is the best thing possible, but I can't help but feel that missing out on love is really sad. For generations past meeting someone in your late teens or twenties, and building a comfortable, stable, positive little home together was an expected norm - now it's almost an abnormality.
I'm in my 30's now and if I had married any of the women I was dating in my 20's I would have blown my brains out already
Joshua Young
So far I'm happy alone. Besides it's either that or some single mom or landwahle.
Alexander Allen
I'm only 20 years old. By the time I reach marrying age the United States will have collapsed. Every girl I meet are either unpleasant to be around or they are simply too busy whoring around to be serious. I would feel a helluva lot guiltier about being single if women were just a little better than what they are right now
Definitely. I’m 39 now, and I think I will shortly be fired from my job. That’s stressful alone. I can’t imagine the stress I would feel if I had a wife and kids relying on me for support.
Levi Evans
No, I'm not. Stop reminding me.
Joshua Morris
yeah, but only because I'm older and wiser now. I know what to avoid. I hope.
Alexander Rodriguez
Don't you think there's a chance you could meet someone still?
What is holding you back?
Dylan Hall
>Don't you think there's a chance you could meet someone still? 0 chance that it happens. its impossible
>What is holding you back? Like I said I already missed out on too many things so its pointless now to try.
love is extremely circumstantial these days, its almost as if its luck based
aka long dead for the majority. emptiness in your 20s
Jeremiah Turner
Why does missing out on things guarantee a life of solitude? If anything you will be more grateful for the love you receive, having gone without for so long.
Noah Jones
40, single, fit, no kids, good finances, carefree, psycho ex-gfs getting fat... so far i dodged every bullet... will i find a wife? maybe... but until then, i'm free of drama.
Jayden Wilson
47 and single, been around the block a few times and I am glad I never settled. I can still do what I want, have money in the bank, and screw whores half my age. Most married people are miserable people and stuck with what they got. If they leave they lose almost everything and things are worse than before.
Levi Campbell
Do you guys think a stable, mutually loving, humble marriage is possible? Or is it just so unlikely that you don't want to risk ending up in dysfunctional marriage?
Ethan Myers
No. I'm finally making big boy money but it costs 60hrs/week of my time. I'm thinking about going back to church because that's the only option at this point.
Lucas Sanchez
Im probably going to marry a 20 year old in my mid 30s if they don't come out even crazier than the sluts we have today, that's why I'm aiming for 20 year olds and with a healthy family, I'm going to get one before she fucks up her life
>he fell for the romance meme Sex is for procreation. Marriage is for raising children and not ending up lonely when you're old.
Adam Ortiz
>Why does missing out on things guarantee a life of solitude? Because its pointless, everything new for me will be something the cunt has already experienced with 50 other dudes, there is nothing special about it. I'm just too bitter about it anyway so won't bother.
>Im probably going to marry a 20 year old in my mid 30s By 20 years old she could have already fucked dozens of men and contracted an STD but aiming any higher would be even worse I mean I want a gf that loves me but I just can't find them anywhere. If they're not pretentious cunt bags that can't have fun they're just massive whores that no man would rightfully take seriously
See, that's why my unconscious mind holds me back from dating againg... I already experienced dysfunctional relationships.. i thought as a man i have to work through it and be the best man i could be... but it never got better. I dream of a loving, caring and stable marriage... will i ever experience it? i wish, but i doubt it. at my age i see my married friends being divorced, cheated on, abused by there wifes... some are wrecks, other don't show it. Maybe, all we need is just a Babushka-Pill... i'll leave this link to this interesting article.... seloliving.com/the-babushka-pill/
David Robinson
That's why you aim for virgins, maybe you are above average at sex and being her first time she will fall in love with you
Ryder Reyes
Life isn't anime unfortunately. Virgins are a meme and don't exist, girls start slutting around at around 12 or so.
>maybe you are above average at sex I can assure you I would absolutely suck at it and probably even fuck it up. but it wouldnt happen anyway so its pointless thinking about this unrealistic scenario, to me this is on the same level as >what if you could fly or >what if you were superman
>By 20 years old she could have already fucked dozens of men and contracted an STD I know I know but that's why you aim for a healthy family too, if you meet a girl and she tells you something bad about her dad like she never sees him usually is a huge red flag
Oliver Williams
38, married earlier this year. She's 22 and due in December.
Oliver Parker
How did you meet?
Has anyone commented on the age gap?
Jose Martinez
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Daniel Ward
I have meet girls that are 25 and virgins, nothing is impossible >why not date them Because they are a tough nut to crack, they are either terrified of the fact that they will lose their virginity when near a man or are looking for a man way above their league Also don't sell yourself so short mang, remember men have it better in their 40s literally working out and having an stable income will get you laid
Ayden Rodriguez
Men never had the chance to reproduce so often as you think. I see as something natural, not every men will find a partner or have children, life is not a disney movie.
Tyler Ortiz
>remember men have it better in their 40s literally working out and having an stable income will get you laid I won't live that long, I'm also fat and never had a Job.
Luis Brooks
>Germany Hire a prostitute.
>Bu-but Hire a prostitute!
Julian Cook
there is always time for a redemption arc. stop being a little bitch and do something about it
Jordan Bell
>12.3 % of women are virgins after college.
I doubt they were telling you the truth.
Cooper Morales
can't really afford it and I'm too shy for it anyway and don't know how any of this shit works. It would also be condom shit, no kissing and in the end I would still be kissless but not a virgin so its pointless.
She was a customer where I work. I was just fucking around with women, but she was receptive to my views. First time we hung out she asked if I voted for Trump, I told her yes and I would have done it twice if I could. She was relieved and let it out that she was basically a closet conservative. People don't really bring up the age thing, people like us together. I think that other guys look up to it and women get it.
Nicholas Mitchell
Same here. I’m going to be a wizard in December.
Christian Watson
That's cool, and I'm happy for you. Thank for sharing.
Jacob Young
Marriage (commitment) is exchanged for virginity, I will never break this rule. I will date but not marry without V attached.
Joshua Morgan
Pay for GFE.
Robert Anderson
People get to hung up on sex. I love slutty women, just know what you are getting into and don't get attached. One petite girl was like an acrobat in bed, but a stripper. So I was cool with going out with here for a while.
Charles Howard
Thanks. I've had terrible relationships in the past and really didn't think I would get married again. But I've learned a lot about women and I think she likes that. Young guys should talk to older guys about how women really are, not happy wife happy life bullshit either. Rollo's blog taught me a lot that I had already learned but not been able to connect the dots on.
Any advice to younger guys, especially inexperienced ones?
Brody Moore
>I'm also fat and never had a Job. Then your life is a mess, yeah you are better off kysing They were 2, one was my cousin and the other one of my best friends, I know they are very rare but they exist
Eli Davis
No girl is "the one." Talk to them, but don't take them very seriously. Talk to lots of them to avoid a scarcity mentality, which will make you feel desperate. They can smell that shit on you. Work out, read, take care of your self. Vetting them is tough and takes time, but you do have to take risks with women. Hide your power level, don't show weakness, and don't bother getting in arguments with them.
>yeah you are better off kysing will probably do that in the next 5 to 10 years.
Brayden Adams
Fool’s errand.
Christopher Gomez
Yeah yeah I guess it doesn't have to be a virgin virgin, virgin as in innocent is enough for me
Owen Diaz
Been daring my current GF for 2 years. Moving in together next month. Gonna have kids after we get married.
Can't imagine how empty it would be to be childless forever.
Wait, I can. Those people are the saddest peopke you meet in airports. They hit 40 and realize they missed their shot because they thought they were having fun.
Go build something worthwhile anons. It's never too late to start.
Xavier Foster
Girlfriend experience. She pretends to be your girlfriend for however long you paid her. Kissing, cuddling and so on. It even has a wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience
In any case, that's only if you feel that it's a big deal to you. Losing your virginity really doesn't change anything, or at least didn't for me (if you can call sex with a condom even losing it properly - no, it wasn't with a prostitute). It'd be better overall if you found a real girlfriend, and with that I can't really help.
Mason Gray
I am a mutt, it is for the best
Brandon Cox
I already cringe just thinking about trying to set this up.
Don't get married hoping for romantic love. Marry a stable, good person with IQ>109 and who is excellent with money and budgeting, and your life will be much better. Hardships happen all the time; when a big one hits you'll need a good spouse.
Luke Adams
sei doch nicht so ein trauriger Typ, was machst du beruflich?
how do you even meet someone nowadays who'll be into a marriage of practical reasons?
Eli Gomez
Checked.
Fuck your feelings, though. Stop wallowing in self-pity. A prostitute is just a girl that you pay to fuck. She doesn't care what you look like, if you're awkward or whatever. If you can find a place where you can pre-screen them somehow, send messages and similar, you can even say that it's your first time and if she'd want to teach you a thing or two. If you don't want to do that, then don't. She won't care if you're a pathetically bad fuck, just make sure to find out if you're paying for time or per time you cum. Also, ask if she'll do kissing. With any girl, prostitute or not, just ask her to show you how she likes it. Why they wouldn't normally do kissing would be because who would want to kiss a prostitute? Make sure not to go too cheap if you do go the kissing-a-prostitute route.
Considering your reluctance, maybe it's better if you go on some dating site, find a 5/10 fuckbuddy, and practice on that. The best option would be to meet a normal girl somehow. Maybe check with friends if they know any that they could set you up with. Don't date in the workplace, though, unless you're prepared to leave it.
Late 20's here. I had a great girl for the last few years. Unfortunately I didn't entirely snap out of my millienial dipshit mindset until she broke things off with me. I was apathetic, smoking weed and playing videogames for years. Even before I met her. I always had some greater insight on things happening in the world around me, but not myself. I didn't straighten the fuck up and be a man when I should have. Perhaps it's too late for her and I now, but I'm getting my shit together either way. I've been working out, quit the weed, started slowing down on the video games a long time ago. Once I get out of this mental fog I put myself in I'm going to start pursuing more productive hobbies again. I hope that I have a chance to share that with her again. Any other girl I would have just forgotten about with time. I really blew a golden opportunity. For the thousandth time.
>Stop wallowing in self-pity easier said than done
>maybe it's better if you go on some dating site I once tried this but got no replies. that was when I wasn't as fat and hairless as I am now.
>Maybe check with friends I don't have any friends.
>Don't date in the workplace I never had a job
I appreciate your effort to help me tho, I understand that most of this is easy to achieve for most men but I won't be able to just negotiate something like this with some random whore.
also was für ein Leben hast du denn bisher gelebt? Bei deinen Eltern? Irgendwie muss du ja Geld gekriegt haben und so, irgendeine Fähigkeit die du in dein Berufsleben einsetzen könntest hast du doch bestimmt?
Angel Diaz
had a son at 21, she left with him before he was born... had a semi long term gf on and off for seven years.. She left after I suggested we should wait for more financial security after she asked me to get her pregnant. I was proved right when the rent free apartment we had as part of our job was gone when the business was sold ... after seeing her so quickly able to leave after having just asked me to get her pregnant was a real eye opener... When a woman I thought I loved and would remain with split and got knocked up by another guy I had to rethink women... if I was that wildly wrong about the person I;d been with that long and given so much of myself how could i ever know any women? I have reached 56 and never had another relationship after that ended at age 27. After long enough you just don't even miss it and realize you dodged a bullet.
my parents pay for everything and sometimes when arbeitsagentur is not putting sanctions on me I manage to get some money from them.
no I have no skills I spend most of my life playing videogames and browsing the internet. ich antworte in englisch weil das ein englisch sprachiges board ist.
>I feel bad for your bloodlines. Just making sure, if reproduction is all that matters it's ok to never settle so long as you donate sperm right? Or just go to a 3rd world country and knock up the locals right?
I always see this "muh lineage" and "muh genetics", which I assume is to try to appeal to people who won't concede that family is the sole way to achieve happiness. If we're reducing the argument to simply passing on your genes then it is honestly better to do the aforementioned methods instead of risk 1st world marriage.
Nolan Peterson
Alright user, I am sorry your life kind of fucked you over. Where are you from? It's never too late to start over you know, go to Uni or learn a skill somehow
Adam Wood
literally three or four times while he was a small child and once a few years post High School when I brought him the money to buy and old BMW 1995 e34 525 5 speed.. He drove my 540 with me and we talked a little but after that I have yet to communicate or see him again and its been about ten years... he just turned 33. I am greatful he is healthy and appears to have the means to support himself and has friends who appear to love him but he is single and childless as far as I know and I have to think what his mother did to me is a big part of that.. pic related is who I never got to hold, tell him I loved him, sing songs to, run and play in the sunshine , teach to read, swim, play music or look at the starts with... maybe the fact this broke my heart so long ago also left me unable to give myself to another woman.
Thanks for sharing. Do you have any friends around your age, and if so what are their lives like at this point?
Blake Long
Nobody wants me user. I'm 6'6 and in good shape even. Gonna go play another game of league then shoot myself.
Aiden Mitchell
In my 30's, wife decreased. Single parent and I have no desire to get into another relationship. I'll fuck a whore every once in a while to relieve the pressure, then go back to being dad and playing my banjo.
Christian Richardson
Well its either that or kill myself right now.
Jaxson Davis
That's incredibly dark. I have had a similar experience. After my breakup about half a year ago. My ex fell into a relationship with some guy that started talking to her. He was 36, a veteran, with kids. Played on all her emotions from our breakup and portrayed himself as this image of a stable, breadwinning, man. She fell right into the trap and ended up dating him and having sex with him for a month. Then I came back into her life trying to patch things up. Things were rocky. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. We were dating again, and soon we started having sex again. As vigorous as when we first started years back. Soon after she told me about this other relationship. Thankfully she had the decency to break things off with him when I came back, but she waited longer than I would have liked to tell me. Shockingly, I felt no anger towards her exactly. I knew why she did what she did, and why this other guy did what he did. I was angry that she had allowed herself to be trapped so easily. I was angry that an asshole would prey upon women 12 years younger than himself in some effort to bend them to his own sexual kinks and ideas of a wife. I was angry that someone would try to defile the person I love and that she would be so blind to the fact. I tried to put it beneath me and pursue a path of healing and rebuilding with her. My thought is that with time we can move on and isolate the happiness we have when we're together. To her I am a constant reminder of all of those failures. To her the negative outcome is the only outcome. And now here we are again with no contact and no hope of a future together. I am adrift in an ocean of piss. The only thing keeping me going now is the idea of self improvement and divine ascension. I wish that I could share that with another. I don't know if I'll ever be able to love like that again.
No I work self employed on my own and moved to a new place years ago and never had the opportunity to meet anybody here.. I have checked facebook for old high school classmates and see many are very successful with wonderful families and have stayed in touch with other classmates.. I left the area right out of HS so never retained those contacts
Brody Cox
Christcucks will have nigger babies as long as they love jesus.
Thomas Foster
>single father
Much respect to you my friend
Daniel Perez
>Where are you from? I don't wanna specify where exactly but in the northern part of germany.
>go to Uni or learn a skill somehow years of just sitting in this room gave me brainfog and I dont think I would be a good wagecuck and I barely have enough motivation to get out of bed so wouldn't learn anything in a uni anyway, doubt they would even let me in.
Jaxon Gutierrez
Sorry to hear that, user. I really am. It's nice with the human aspects of /pol too once in a while inbetween. Keep hope and stay strong
I've been single for a few years now. It wouldn't be "easy" to get a girl, but it would be possible if I cared. I just want to fix my financial situation first, which is what broke my previous relationship. But even friends who graduate "real" educations (as opposed to my joke of a bachelor - no, I won't specify) aren't getting good jobs.
So yeah, 2019 single as well I guess. Let's go. If I could just get my thumb out of my ass and get an income, but nope. Can't even get slave-tier jobs these days if you have any stretch of unemployment on your CV.
>when arbeitsagentur is not putting sanctions on me I manage to get some money from them. Ha. 450 days here, ran out a long time ago. Meanwhile, some fucking raghead comes here, brings his entire family and four kids, and lives on the dole for well over a decade because they haven't managed to "integrate" properly.
Checked.
>6'6" Pretty sure your height alone qualifies you for a tall woman magnet-status. Tall women have a difficult time finding men, because they don't want to be taller than their boyfriends. Just be cool around some tall women, especially any slightly tan ones, considering you're in the US, and yeah.
>In my 30's, wife decreased. Hey, that's not too bad. Most women swell in their 30's, right? Jokes aside, if you have kids you'd do well not to get anyone steady at least for a while.
William Myers
Do you think he'd want to see you now?
My parents started arguing around the time I was born, and got divorced a few years later, my father having started drinking a lot and seeing another woman, treating my mother with aggression etc. We argued the last time we communicated, but I'd hate for him to die thinking I hate him. We both have bad tempers but my mother said he's a good guy deep down just mixed up. I moved back to my hometown recently and am thinking of reaching out to him, but I don't want to waste his time or make things worse if he's still bitter and just starts arguing again.
Zachary Jenkins
So do you have no friends where you're at now? I don't mean to pry into your life, just curious is all. Older I get the more stable financially I get, but it leaves me wanting to help other people or express my goodness in some way. Isolation makes this hard, and I imagine it's harder still as years go by.
Tyler Cooper
Intense post user, but your willingness to comprehend a situation through a lens other than selfishness suggests you're a decent guy. Not many would forgive a girl like that. Those who manage to secure a small island of warmth and compassion in this life really are lucky.
Jonathan Morris
>Can't even get slave-tier jobs these days if you have any stretch of unemployment on your CV. its everywhere like that, can't really blame them for it. I understand they want to make as much money as possible without inducing more risk. its sad but once you are in this trap it is very hard if not impossible to get out, for introverted people like me it sure is impossible.
>Meanwhile, some fucking raghead comes here, brings his entire family and four kids, and lives on the dole for well over a decade because they haven't managed to "integrate" properly. same here, nigger can come here and get money for doing nothing. but I don't get anything because somehow I am integrated? I am not, nobody wants anything to do with me. I'm probably less integrated than a nigger from africa and I was born here and lived all my life here.
Guys talking about girls already slutting at age 12 and already having a dozen partners before age 18.. yeah its true for any girl who is a 7 or above. That's why you get an ugly girl to marry you. Its just like that song. Preferably you find a 4 through 6 eastern euro girl to marry or a asian.
Never make a pretty woman your wife. Theyve been spoiled their entire lives because of their looks. Theyve gotten away with every wrongdoing because of their looks.
Charles Torres
Thanks for the encouragement. I threw myself into working so just kept myself busy and found things I could enjoy like buying an old Bimmer to learn about keeping it going , assembling a decent stereo system and classical music collection to learn about music and the great composers, hiking and studying some science disciplines to strengthen my understanding of Life.
Its been rough as his mother slandered me to may people and has substantially poisoned my son's mind toward me without any basis in truth whatsoever. I learned through someone who has a mutual friend with her she claimed I was a heroin addict for a reason i was excluded from their lives which is entirely untrue. based on the extreme hostile reaction I received from other acquaintances of ours I can only imagine what else she accused me of being.
I am sure he'd love to see as much of you as is possible but be prepared for a guy whose grappling with the years of his own shattered existence always at the threshold so patience and love be your guide.
Daniel Bailey
No I dont but I have no clue where I can find a polish or slovakian woman that I can talk with.
Anthony Foster
No I have no friends at all. I work alone and live alone and the only time I mingle with others is in doing shopping or perhaps at the beach but I have no inclination to seek out companionship any longer. I don't avoid people or social interaction I just don't seek it out. Few things I've done is attend showings of older films newly restored which play from time to time or attend a concert here or there is I might like the music.
Sebastian Cook
It's hard to carry on normally without someone you used to love and hold daily. I think about her all the time. I've been thinking a lot about my own mortality, and what to do with the time I have left. I'm getting such a late start in life, and it's like I gave myself one last major setback before I finally get on with it. Mentally, this has been one of the strangest times in my life. It's like I've been given this clairvoyance, but I've lost so much in the process.
>Are you content with living the rest of your life without a wife or children? No, but I'm starting to think anything else is impossible now, both due to society's failings and my own. I can only pray that through my own life's work I might help fix this broken world that others may not suffer the same fate as I.
Get a trade user. Dont give up. Find something to start making money and move up.
You only live once.
Jace James
almost all of my coworkers who married young (early 20s) are either divorced or talking about a divorce. the amount of guys telling me never to get married is insane.
Christopher Barnes
This
Carter Scott
You aren't wrong, I got married at 23, divorced 4 years later.. She said she "fell out of love with me".
That's the thing, so many women will just up and decide one day they are bored, and thanks to family law the man will in many instances have to sign over half his shit. I lucked out a bit because she made a pretty decent salary herself but it could've been worse.
Connor Gray
oh great wizard, can you cast a spell for me? I would like for there to be a happening soon, can you make it so with some sort of incantation?
