Suck it, Americans. Ruskies are good suppliers.
We are buying Russian stealth jets!
Mason Sullivan
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Caleb Powell
Well based on their economy I doubt that they could afford the far superior and proven F35.
Jonathan Miller
You do know we would just give you a few billion dollars for one and then have you "accidentally" crash one all the while we take it to Area 51 or Dugway and reverse engineer the fucking thing
Adrian Reed
Erdogan is trying to get the US to both finance and offer tech transfer when Turkey buys new US planes. This is just posturing and Su-57 isn't a real option anyway.
Lucas Fisher
We've already done that, I'm sure.
Michael Ross
You would be able to pay for the F-35s if you hadn't wasted tens of billions on rapefugees
Elijah Russell
end turkistan's misery and kick them out of nato.
Charles Lewis
I know for a fact we have. Hell we have even sold fake intel and material about stealth through certain countries to China
Joseph Ross
Did the fix the f-35's? The last I heard, they couldn't fly
Nolan Nguyen
The strategy of Russians is to give various countries the capability to shoot down every US plane, destroy carriers and shoot down rockets by building a self sustainable military industry in these countries together.
It doesn't matter if the US gives in and transfers the tech themselves, the main goal is to make these countries able to defend themselves from the US military in the future, which will give Russia the opportunity to do trade with them without them having to fear US invasion.
Either way the US loses against this strategy slowly but steadily grip over its already defunct Empire.
Brandon Watson
who cares? america will stomp a mudhole in you slav/ashkenazi hybrids regardless of what you buy. real germans died in ww2.
Ryan Campbell
If Russia ever gets delivery on the whole 10 they ordered you'll be the next in line. And no, they aren't stealth.
Luis Nguyen
And Russia can pursue this asymmetrical policy precisely because they have no need or profit from invading Iran, Syria, Turkey, India and so on.
Only the US needs to threaten them with military force to keep them in line and keep their Empire alive.
Russia has no Empire over these nations that they need to defend somehow.
Eli Howard
>self-sustainable military industry
>by selling them end-user products
Makes a ton of sense, in Swaziland.
Jonathan Mitchell
This is fairly accurate. The US empire is shit for americans too, its a vast drain on our tax payers and only makes money for plutocrats. The US would be far richer, safer and happier and so would the world, once we stop playing Empire.
Carter King
BASED
Zachary Perez
Anti-stealth has already trumped stealth.
Mason Wright
>Ruskies are good suppliers.
Cheap does not mean good, user. Russian planes are still held together by rivets lol Meanwhile I will enjoy our countries total air, land and sea domination. How can Russcucks even compete?
Dylan Foster
>Russia has no Empire over these nations that they need to defend somehow.
Not entirely true. Syria and Iran are both very important points that Russia will defend as their future energy sales to Europe are dependent on these countries not becoming US proxies.
Ayden Lopez
Why are you so superior to the Polish?
Asher Cox
You have no clue, Russia has already a self sustainable military production in India and Iran, that creates S400 and copies or even improvements over Russian military tech.
They want to do the same in Turkey, Germany and everywhere else where that is currently controlled through military might by the US.
They are not wrong in their calculation that they will have better dealings with these countries in the future when they can't be bossed around by the US.
And if the US is forced to give these countries as a reaction THEIR tech then so be it, the end result is EXACTLY the same.
Xavier Davis
>US proxies
You mean Israeli Proxies? USA itself is borderline Proxy status. It fucking would be if it wasn't for anti-interventionists.
Ryder Hughes
>muttmerica
>land domination
>in eurasia
lmao
David Morales
>manned aircraft are still relevant
the thread
Sebastian Bennett
If Russia wishes to give them tech, so be it. But that doesn't create a security dilemma for the US, it creates one for Russia.
Aiden Torres
Russia is just trying to sell what it can before China takes over their business. China has a copy of almost every Russian weapon system and their industry is quickly catching up. China has had S-400 for some time for example
Gabriel Hughes
Only chad nuclear powers can post in this thread. You need not apply, loser.
Liam Roberts
Both Israel and US are proxies owned by an international banking cartel who also own the energy companies.
Juan Long
The US is basically trying to dissuade these countries from buying the weapons to defend themselves against any invader by threatening them that they will do something militarily or economically to their slaves if they buy the weapons they could use to free themselves.
How is such a strategy possibly going to work in the long run? It wont. They will eventually get their way.
Anthony Perry
Only missiles and missile-delivery systems matter. Manned fighter jets have been obsolete for decades
Camden King
post my pic dammit
Leo Myers
>Cheap does not mean good, user. Russian planes are still held together by rivets lol Meanwhile I will enjoy our countries total air, land and sea domination. How can Russcucks even compete?
Aiden Gonzalez
isn't the F-35 the plane that cost hundred of billions of dollars on taxpayer and very late in production ?
Jordan James
Camden Myers
>Far superior
>doesn't even have fucking VTOL
>costed 2 trillion to make
>costs millions to repaint after every fucking use
oh yeah, it's superior alright, a superior amount of money that you will waste on that useless piece of shit. Inshallah some Serb will shoot that dumb fucking jet out of the sky with another S-200
Carson Hall
this. they're going to be waiting awhile.
>anti stealth
you have no clue what you're talking about.
Jackson Kelly
It's the one-size-fits-all white elephant
Easton Ramirez
And of course the "key" NATO member is the Turkroaches, who are presently being shown the door. Enjoy your new allies, Vlad, and keep the Natashas flowing.
Ian Flores
implying russia is any better...???
Isaiah Morris
>one active nuclear power plant with 2 reactors, which constitutes around 18% of the national power generation capacity of the country. This makes Romania the 23rd largest user of nuclear power in the world.
>The USA has 98 operating nuclear power reactors in 30 states, operated by 30 different power companies. Since 2001 these plants have achieved an average capacity factor of over 90%, generating up to 807 TWh per year and accounting for about 20% of the total electricity generated.
Like I said, stay mad loser.
Chase Collins
It does not because Russia doesn't intend to invade China, Turkey, Germany or Iran. It is the US or ZOG who wants to do this.
You believe that Erdogan has Putin as a threat on his mind every day when it was Putin who saved him for a military coup created by ZOG in order to establish a Kurdistan by ripping Turkey apart?
You believe Xi Jinping fears he Russian intentions when it is the US that tries to destroy China today?
No, Russia will gain security by making all the countries around it armed with the best anti missile, anti satellite and anti fighter jet tech there is.
The only way the US holds on to its power is by threats and military invasions, once this path has been blocked for them to keep various nations in line many will turn hard against their former masters because they remember the shit the US has done in the last decades to them and those around them.
Zachary Brown
Mig 21 prehistoric era, shot down F16 in India. Your planes are crap, as usual. We sold you a vertical takeoff technology for the F35. Cukold
Tyler Martin
Zachary Thompson
we're building more reactors
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Colton Smith
I thought it couldn't fly in the rain?
Noah King
"stealth"
Ian Nelson
>2015
>already obsolete
Hunter Sanders
>wolfpacks aren't vulnerable
Eli Reyes
>NATO buying Russian Weapons
What's the point of this fucking NATO again???
Alexander Cooper
The US has already invaded Germany in 1944 and has never left. Turkey and Iran are on a path to fuck with each other, though Turkey definitely represents a potential thwarter in Russian security plans. Xi Jinping fears his own people far more than he fears any foreign head of state, and I would expect China to invade Russia rather than the reverse, at least if you count Siberia. Russia ultimately loses security by spreading anti-missile tech, because anti-missile tech is by design missile tech, because Russia doesn't gain friends by spreading tech, all it gains is potential rivals.
Nolan Clark
>phalanx can totally shoot this down
Nathaniel Ortiz
Money-sucking machine
Easton Torres
It's good news in this progressivist times, the engineers who designed and built the F-35 were part of a very diverse and inclusive team, the new members were a great help in an amazing project
Hunter Bennett
Not very stealthy if we can clearly see them
Logan Evans
> placing the only 4 working planes at a non-working airport
Jaxon Baker
>Eurofighter
Holy hell what a MESS of a project that's been.
Nathan Stewart
What you just said was unbelievably retarded and wrong, but I believe that you believe it.
Jason Rodriguez
>The US has already invaded Germany in 1944 and has never left.
And this is why Germany will forever be indebted to the US. We wouldn't be where we are today without your firm guiding hand.
Blake Rodriguez
>What's the point of this fucking NATO again???
Most NATO countries have Russian weapons. For example, Hungary buys our combat helicopters and blocks Ukraine from joining NATO.
Elijah Anderson
Russia is very powerful country
Owen Richardson
the F35 development program was massively over budget, that's true, don't confuse that with the cost the planes themselves.
most of the trash talk about the F35 is sensationalized clickbait based on early testing, as if the entire point of testing isn't to fix flaws and make improvements.
truthfully, the plane does everything exactly as it was designed to do.
Carter Reed
>w...we are building more reactors!!
You would need more than a hundred years to even produce a fraction of the U.S.'s nuclear power supply. You literally cannot compete.
>The USA is the world's largest producer of nuclear power, accounting for more than 30% of worldwide nuclear generation of electricity.
>The country's nuclear reactors produced 807 billion kWh in 2018, about 20% of total electrical output. There are two reactors under construction.
world-nuclear.org
>Following a 30-year period in which few new reactors were built, it is expected that two more new units will come online soon after 2020, these resulting from 16 licence applications made since mid-2007 to build 24 new nuclear reactors.
>Government policy changes since the late 1990s have helped pave the way for significant growth in nuclear capacity.
>Some states have liberalized wholesale electricity markets, which makes the financing of capital-intensive power projects difficult, and coupled with lower gas prices since 2009, have put the economic viability of some existing reactors and proposed projects in doubt.
>The first zero-emission credit programmes have commenced, in New York, Illinois and New Jersey, with corresponding provision in Connecticut.
Like I said. Cope harder. It is hilarious.
Kevin Sanders
How much do you imagine NATO costs? You know, without looking it up.
Mason Williams
Sorry your country got cut in half for 60 years. Patton was right.
Kevin Hill
Ahhh yaaaaa
Aaron Sanchez
we have a law that says we cant allow your goods into the country if you do that. saudi arabia isnt the center of the world and i think we cut their oil quietly when they mentioned maybe buying some russian missiles. remeber when america turned hostile towards saudis and talked shit about their oil. we shifted out our conversion of our oil back to indonesia about then. a alleged statement from saudi arabia is that they couldnt meet our demand with their own conversion but their conversion is all bought oil and every one uses 3 month contracts. their fields dried up mostly
point is if you buy it we arent supposed to buy stuff from you and our media and even possibly global media will make up excuses
Sebastian Cook
>The latest development comes shortly after the Hungarian ministry handed an order for 16 H225M multi-purpose helicopters to Airbus. The aircraft are to be fitted with the HForce weapon management system. On Dec. 17, Hungary and Airbus Helicopters also signed a memorandum of agreement to launch industrial cooperation on long-term aviation projects with a focus on manufacturing parts for helicopter dynamic systems.
William Miller
Turkey and Iran are actually allies who view Saudi Arabia and Israel as a common existential threat.
The rest of what you write is informed by the Jew York Times BS about civil society somewhere in China.
You can believe what you want but those are not fools who do the planning in Russia.
What we can see play out in the open today is the US resisting these countries from getting these weapons and the technology while Russia is freely supplying it to them in any way they want.
Russia is DISRUPTING the US Empire this way in a very effective way. The US will have to come up with another way to submit these nations in the near future.
Aiden Roberts
120 SU 57s, with 1000-1200 R77 R74 missiles, 600 KH35U, 2000 KH38, 1000 KH31A/P.
should cost around 15 to 20 billion dollars.
Owen Morris
>Cope harder
can I cope less?
Julian Barnes
>Sorry your country got cut in half for 60 years. Patton was right.
Yes, yes, we know who was behind this war. Who was nobody, and then somehow miraculously turned up. Get out of Germany, dirty Yankees. We both know that after leaving Europe you will find yourself at the level of the Great Depression.
John Russell
Not in your case, might as well kys
Carter Bell
Where are you getting your information?
Dylan Russell
>key NATO member
Turkey
Landon Jenkins
Turkey and Iran both want to control the Middle East, and kinda by definition only one of them can. Whether Turkey will actually decide to intervene in the soon-to-be Saudi-Iran war remains to be seen.
Russia hasn't disrupted shit, user. The US has disrupted the US empire.
Xavier Reyes
Incredibly unintelligent post, bro.
Jason Clark
Actually Russia is even supplying nuclear technology to tons of countries, which gives these countries the ability to develop nukes within a few months if ever need be.
Russia sets these countries up to be able to fend of any attack from the US and even strike back in a devastating way if need be.
They are definitely not wrong in their calculation that this is the only thing that will stop the murderous ZOG Empire.
We can see how they threaten Iran for decades now and actually do nothing because they have the means to hit back at the most important state of the US, Israel.
Jacob Kelly
Remember when Russia together with Assad killed off ISIS, while America just watched doing pretty much nothing? America didn’t even supply Syrian Kurds, Germany did.
Justin Young
Do you have credible proof to back up that claim?
William Roberts
One TRILLION dollars
Brandon Torres
Mason Green
Don't mind the brain dead shills, bro. I think they may have gotten themselves all pumped up in Syria Generals by avoiding any kind of challenge to their hilariously incorrect view of military affairs and they're taking it out into the world now.
Aiden Long
Nah dude, you have no clue.
Ryder Perry
That's only the case if you believe that there must be one power ruling all of the Middle East.
Russia and China promote a multipolar model of the world and ZOG has already accepted it as a reality.
I remember how 15 years ago ZOG laughed about Putin suggesting this at the Munich Security Conference. They are not laughing anymore about it today.
Thomas Thompson
Based Turkgermany.
Josiah Wilson
The suqoi are great jets...if it was 1977
Aaron Rivera
Kek. Europe can't even build jets anymore. Germany can't even build an airport!
Anthony White
They've been saying that since the dawn of the jet age and it's never been true, though.
David Ortiz
The average F-35 cost 300-400 million all in over a 25yr lifecycle. 1 billion of development is taken into account.
Julian Miller
I'm not in the mood today.
Jason Robinson
Cuck posting is pathetic.
Jason Hall
You could but the US has set up your economy in a way that de-incentivises you from building your own military capabilities able to confront any potential foe, including the US.
Why would they allow you to build something that could threaten their grip over your country?
Buy Russian tech, they are willing to transfer technology to you and help rebuild your military production. You can later then produce this tech on your own and improve it like India already does today.
Bentley Hall
I don't even understand why these countries want these expensive ass planes.
>be Saudi Arabia
>buy billions in US military equipment
>waste it on fighting Yemen
Owen Peterson
I remember this too
Caleb Sullivan
It's paying tribute to the Empire. That's why.
Carter Rodriguez
>I don't even understand why these countries want these expensive ass planes.
>>be Saudi Arabia
they don't plan on doing the actual fighting. if there was a real war, mutts would be operating the planes.
Jeremiah Garcia
>Russia is disrupting the American Empire.
No it's not.
Joseph Gray
Eat shit, Soviet dicklet.
James Richardson
You are incredibly ignorant of the history of the middle east.
Jonathan Brown
>a plane developed in the 70's