What do we do about men willing to be "deep friendzoned"?

i sure hope this lad is gay

That is pretty sad user

>Castration?
There's nothing to cut off user.

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Dump the roastie.

what if she buys you things and pays for stuff?

It’s a good idea cause you can fuck her friends

He probably is and acting like a father simply adds meanjng

He A) finds a new girl who wants his attention and the first girl gets jealous, or B) she finds a dude and tells Capt save-a-hoe she's washing her hair every time he calls. Either way, this ends with one of the two feeling shafted.

She’ll have told her friends how big your dick is at some point

Or he’s gay

This intolerant-tolerance is what roasties tell manlets to evade being hypocrites. Many times more women would rather miscegenate than settle for in-group manlets.

I fuckin double dawg dare ye

Pretty sure he is already castrated

She says, "I hope one day you find a woman...".

I say, what about the woman? She is very clearly a devil out in the open sharing her exploitation of a broken boy and affirming that women have us by the balls socially speaking

Women have absolutely no respect in this "society" because men don't demand it of them. That needs to change, and fast.

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There are 4 types of women:
> family
> friends girlfriends, whom I tolerate because of my friends
> cum dumpsters that are good for only 1 thing
> women that are potential marriage material

There is no excuse for being ‘friend zoned’. If I try to date a woman and she isn’t about it, then I move on and don’t keep in touch with her. Women don’t offer me anything In a friendship that I don’t already have or cant do on my own.

As someone who's been friendzoned his whole live, I'm betting on option B. Guys like us never get pussy. We have to be emotional tampons for girls who get fucked by womanizing Chads.

This whore hit the jackpot. Got a cuck to raise her bastard child while she fucks some more. I can guarantee that she's not fucking the cuck, rarely at most.

What can be done? Prevention. Teach boys and young men to value themselves, their time, and resources. Teach them that women aren't angels and very often will try to use you and manipulate you.

Also shame cucks that pedestalize pussy and female approval.

You get friend zoned because you view yourself as an emotional tampon retard. Do not make female friends. Make your intentions known that you’re looking to date, if they aren't about it then tell them they can fuck off. go spend your time finding another woman. Women already have a pussy, you don’t need to be their second one.

TransStepDad.

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This can't be real

>Bastard child
>Weird old testament name
Every time...

you can datamine a lot of thot behavior playing friends with a woman. don't spend money on her, pay 50/50 because "we're friends bitch", fart in front of her and, for the love of god, do not let her take pictures of you.

completely and utterly this. yes women are trash but they are also like dogs. the reason women keep behaving this way is because men enable them. like a dog or child, it will misbehave if you enable such behavior in the first place.

as men we need to demand better from our women. do not enable thottery and degeneracy. if you do then you are just as bad as them.

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>fart in front of her

there's a gook bitch who was obsessed with me for a while (despite i have a gf) and so kept farting around her and sending her midnight vocal messages of my ass trumpets. she finally stopped.

I wouldn't go that far.

Most of what these men need are testosterone supplements, exercise, a good hobby with other men to bond, and being taught that philosophically, constructive selfishness is the most stable and efficient way to live one's life, every other way is ultimately destructive, including altruism, which is what these poor men have been taught and are doing. I used to be one of them, then it occurred to me that helping others regardless of the effects on you is a self destructive way of living. Unfortunately, this is how most white countries have been raising their good men and women, which is why they're so easily taken advantage of, and why white countries are being taken advantage of.

Stop being altruistic. Be constructively selfish.

Yes, you're right Crateros. I should have sent you veterans home sooner, and I will. The first of your shall be the Silver Shields, and then every man who has served seven years. Respected, rich, LOVED! You'll be treated by you wives and children as heroes for the rest of your lives. And enjoy a peaceful death. But you dream Crateros! Your simplicity long ended when you took Persian mistresses and children and you thickened your holdings with plunder and jewels... Because you have fallen in love with all the things in life that destroy men! Do you not see? And you, as well as I, know, that as the years decline, and the memories stale, and all your great victories fade, it will always be remembered, you left your king in Asia! Because I will go on...with my Asians!

When I read this all I see is an angel of a guy and a typical female demon. Don't blame him for being a decent person, she's the bad one.

its in human nature to help one another, altruism was a very useful trait when we left the trees and roamed the Savannah and remained so right up to the time we were living in 2-3 families per clan/tribe. the advent of agricultural society made selflessness a detrimental trait. Socioapathy would've gotten you ostracized or killed in pre-historic times but in the modern world sociopaths thrive.

>while she fucks some more. I can guarantee that she's not fucking the cuck
That just gives him more quality time with the loli. Why would he give a fuck what she's doing, he has her daughter to fuck. Got that little preteen fucktoy, he sure don't need the old hag

Most great leaders start out as Elephants but end as Baboons soon as they finally reach the top. The top Alpha baboon is surrounded by his loyal betas who keep the women and lowest males in line. The modern world is run by baboons, not Elephants anymore.

The last great Elephant leader (who died as an Elephant) was Adolf Hitler.

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True, but the guy is only doing what he is (OP's pic as an example) because he's being altruistic. In OP's pic, the guy gains nothing. He is helping the women and kid out of altruistic actions (helping others regardless of the effects on you). If he was constructively selfish (helps himself to help others or helps others who will in turn help him) then the women would reciprocate in kind, or he wouldn't help her.

Most stable institutions are based on constructive selfishness. Marriage for example used to be a contract between a man and women, where the man would defend and provide for the woman, while the woman gave him exclusive breeding rights, providing him kids, and taking care of the home, and when the women became old and infertile, the man would stay with her, even though he could abandon her and get a younger woman (since men's sexual market value increases as they get older, assuming he's not so old as to not be able to protect and provide). Since marriage has progressively strayed from that, it began to fail. That's only one example of an old institution/tradition/lesson that was successful and efficient, based on constructive selfishness, that has withered, because it's deviated from that foundation.

Deep friendzone is a fancy way to say cuck

The girl is hot though and maybe the guy will bang her one day

>hehe, all as planned goyim

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I just notice she has a hand tattoo. Women with tattoos are instant trash.

He thinks if he sticks around long enough or does enough stuff for her, he’ll get to hit it someday. Of course we all know that he could raise that little girl all the way to adulthood and he’ll never even get to see her boobs let alone fuck her

poo

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the time and resources he spends on her he could've fucked like 50 hookers.

pls be fake

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No he couldn’t have. Everything about that dude just SCREAMS “incel”. There’s not enough money in the world to get a girl to fuck him

My god.... just cuck my shit up.

>as men we need to demand better from our women.

Too late, the genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back in. We're fucked and it's our grandfathers fault for letting them have equal rights and the vote.

well ive offered a solution....sort of. if we could some how get enough men to not enable women's shitty behavior we might have a chance. remember, who controls the women controls civilization because women are the gate keepers of reproduction. why do you think the jews primarily target them? almost all media and advertising is aimed squarely at women.

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You're misunderstanding I think. Here is the scale and the definitions:

self-destructive altruism: Helping others even when it hurts you.
altruism: helping others regardless if it hurts or helps you
constructive selfishness: helping yourself to better enable you to help others, or helping others that in turn help you
neutral: self explanatory and nearly non existent
destructive selfishness: helping yourself to better enable you to hurt others, or hurting others that in turn helps you
evil: hurting others regardless if it helps or hurts you
self-destructive evil: hurting others even when it hurts you

On this scale, the only stable form is constructive selfishness. Every other form is a self defeating philosophy and way of living. This is true regardless of scale, for small social interactions between 2 people, to larger communities, to entire countries.

Altruism is self-defeating because it puts the altruist into a position of inferiority, which they're not; it suggests that the altruist is not as deserving of help as the one they're helping, that they're obligated to help others and not deserving of it in return. It essentially puts the altruist into a position of soft slavery, because they're being used unfairly by the ones they're helping. It starts out with kindness from the altruist wanting to help, and the one receiving it is thankful, the altruist continues to help, then the receiver gets used to it, then they expect it, then they demand it, and if the altruist stops helping the receiver often gets angry at them, and can through guilt or force put them back into their inferior position. This plays out in the bigger scale too. The altruists help and provide, the receivers are thankful, then get used to it, then expect it, then demand it, and usually demand more. Over time, the number of altruists dwindles, because they realize it's not worth it to them, and become a taker, until there are so few altruists left the system collapses.

poo in loo

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Pretty much this. For men, if you can be friends with a female, you want to fuck her. If you dont wamt to fuck her..
..then you dont like her and cant be friends. Thats just how it works. Men dont have women friends.

It's nice to dream mate but the truth of the matter is there is nothing you can do to change the situation other than try and find a decent girl and take a chance on her. Personally I decided to remain alone for the rest of my life rather than deal with modern females.

i can understand that given you live in NZ where most women have ridden a train of cocks (aus is the same). i lucked out meeting a girl from northern italy that comes from a conservative family. i would NEVER settle down with an australian woman unless she was a first or maybe 2nd gen immigrant. at best id fuck an aussie woman but even that entails risk of false rape accusations and/or STIs.

Clearly taken in the underground movie theater that they keep the kids chained up to the popcorn machine in

Allowing yourself to be trampled on is unhealthy and ultimately this creates net negativity. This makes things worse overall for everyone.

Altruism is what has allowed the tyrants to rule.

Good men who allow evil to prosper are just as guilty as the evil.

I get a decent quality escort when I feel like having sex.

I'm not playing womens games, running around after them in the hopes of getting something. I don't need emotional contact from them.

what you said links in well with my other points.

cucks get the rope too

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ontap sex is great though m8. hookers are too expensive here (dont know what they're like in NZ), some fat ugly whores want 250 for an hour. can pay 100-150 for a 30 minute cum and go with gook prostitutes but hardly seems worth it. if i was single again id rather make a holiday to thailand and bang 30-50 dollar whores for a few weeks and get it out of my system.

Money isin't a problem for me, I live off of an inherritance...wasn't always that way though.

I'm not turned on by gooks so the South East Asia option has never appealed...I like white gilrs but white girls are intitled spoiled cunts

ah. my situation with money is a bit complex. i have the option of going full mgtow with comfortable finances but ive chosen the harder path....money is always up in the air and being managed long-term. everyone in my mums family is still alive and probably will be for several more decades. lots of people lived to their 90s and past 100. could get inheritance from the grandparents and an aunty and my mum but none of them are going away any time soon. sometimes i think about ditching my gf and going the easy route but i dont have the heart to do it and know i'd most likely regret it.

as for gooks well all women look the same when getting hit from behind. indeed you're right though, white women are spoiled whores.

enjoy your super gonorrhea that melts your dick off

:(

isn't that what rubbers are for though m8?

There is being friend zoned and there is fucking desperate single mothers, but fuck, this is so far beyond beta it is fucking zeta.

Like I legit feel bad for this guy. Someone seriously needs to take him into the woods and put him out of his misery.

I don't know which would be sadder, this post being real or fake.

you know deep down that it is real.

>enjoy your super gonorrhea that melts your dick off

It's legal here and the women have to get regularly tested and have the results displayed and shit.

Cringe level....EXPLOSION. WTF........

oh my god, he can't even land a girl who already has a kid! It's time to hang yourself. Or become gay

Fuck, I know men raising other mens kids.

Maybe he just really really likes little girls...wonder what he's up to when mums not around?

i think he was referring to my fantasy of taking a month long holiday to thailand so i can get all the cummies out of my balls.

This pretty much. I have a female friend. We used to date, it didn’t work out. We didn’t like fucking each other that much to be honest. Since then however, she has helped me with more in my life than I have helped her. We are like brother/sister. I really have no desire to fuck her and the feeling is mutual. It’s fine when it is equitable. 90% of male/female friendships however involve the woman using a man via teasing him with her puss. If you understand women and yourself, and know what each of you is getting out of the relationship, it is fine. Female friends can actually be very helpful in guarding you against female treachery in the workplace, and even introducing you to other women.

he's right y'know

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Lol...yeah, fucking watch your jewels over there, m8

hahahahahahaha

This guy is right.

I used to be altruistic, it gets you no where. People start taking your kindness for granted and will walk all over you. I cut that shit out in mid-20s. I like helping people and still do, it’s in my nature, but you can only help those who help themselves. You can only humble yourself for so long.

Once I stopped and became a little more selfish and ruthless, people ironically started having way more respect for me.

digits have spoken

>Stop being altruistic. Be constructively selfish.

Altruism is the white mans greatest trait and our worst Achilles heel.

It evolved because we needed to trust and cooperate with each other to survive harsh European winters and now (((They))) take advantage of it to destroy us

They aren't 100% safe.
Will fucking a whore really make you happy anyway? I mean think about it, it's like a couple of minutes of dopamine rush. Is that really worth the trip?

I mean you can still go to Thailand, it's a beautiful country. I think it's easier to appreciate beauty when your nuts are full, but that's just me.

mate i do nofap all year round, i gotta release some how and no, i will not accept pornography.

if its not safe then i probably will never do it but i cant say aussie women (not prostitutes) are much better, we've got super-gonorrhea spreading here too among "normal" people. a hooker in aus probably practices safe sex more often than a regular roastie.

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>a couple of minutes

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wanted to add that aussie prostiutes are over-priced, most of these women are only worth 50 dollars for 30 minutes. gooks and old trannies here charge like 100 dollars for 60 minutes.

what app?

>a hooker in aus probably practices safe sex more often than a regular roastie.

They WILL not fuck you without a condom.

Most will end the booking if you even ask.

Most I payed in Aussie was 450 per hour for 3 hours but she was smoking hawt fucking model material...Ukrainian

exactly...now compare that to the average girl here who crew hops (fucks guys within a friend group) bareback, has random tinder hookups and/or club hook ups....its no wonder genital warts has spread like wild fire here and we have super bacteria that cant be cured.

what city? 450 for 3 hours is actually pretty good.

My older brother is like this. Got friendzoned by a chick with a kid, she got back together with her old BF, he still takes care of the kid when she's on dates with the BF, and still yearns for the girl, ever thinking that she'll eventually change her mind and get together with him.

It's a sad sad fucking thing to see, especially since he's my own brother. I completely blame a lack of a competent dad in the picture (we have a dad, but he was a really bad father figure. Not someone to look up to, who's kneejerk reaction was to beat and berate us). Thank god I found Jow Forums and learned the associating pills about women and fatherhood, or I may have become like my brother.

Unfortunately my brother is cucked to the point where he won't listen to any of us, except my mom, and she partially enables it by telling him to do what makes him happy. And to him, that's to continue to be a cuck and hope that she'll eventually like him more than a friend.