>A council of centralized Jewish leadership that has no documentation or evidence to ever existing decides to fake "the holocaust" as part of a plot to take over the world and enslave the Master Race >Plant the seeds for decades (centuries?) in advance long before WW1 even happened (Jow Forums often uses the old "six million" references as evidence of a conspiracy) >None of this is ever discovered or found out >Somehow orchestrate in the middle of WW2 the mass disappearance of 11 million people including 6 million jews and 5 million non-jews >covertly relocate these people secretly to ??? (Israel I guess?) >build all these complex facilities and phony camps that were actually resorts with theaters and swimming pools and etc >falsify thousands of documents, photographs, etc >create thousands of fake mass graves and fill them with fake bodies in the middle of nazi-controlled territory >pay off millions of witnesses of dozens of nationalities, none of whom EVER break the silence that they were in fact in on a gargantuan conspiracy >Pay off every single historian to have existed at the time or has existed since, they're all in on it too and none of them ever blab >All the nazi's are in on it too as not one of them denied the holocaust took place at their trials, just their individual responsibility. >The leaders of every country in the world is in on that, including both sides of the Cold War >Jews coordinate all this despite no real method of communication at the time. Moreover not a single document exists of them communicating so it was all psychic I guess >No paper trail of this MASSIVE unprecedented operation that has spanned now many years exists. >Somehow THIS is more believable than the nazi's killing the people they said they always wanted to kill
How did the Jews manage this when Nixon couldn't even keep Watergate a secret?
ive only ever seen this same shit copy pasta thread about 9 fucking times now
Colton Peterson
Why didn't any nazis say its a hoax?
Lucas Gutierrez
the official numbers given by the nazis dont match up with what was supposedly found
Hunter Campbell
>Jews are inferior >Jews used underhanded and immoral tactics to control everything >Jews control everything Ha nazis owned
Julian Flores
are there any officers, officals, any nazis saying its a hoax? Seems like an impossible thing to hide
Anthony Taylor
slavemorality >buuhuu they are winning
Ayden Clark
People are just jealous of jews because they are the master race.
Parker Gray
have any moral people won ever? Sounds like slave morality
Evan Hall
its completely understandable that they are acting in this way but the average person wont believe it im not so much mad at the jew as i am my own people
Owen Garcia
There isn't one (1) Holocaust denier standing today that hasn't already been BTFO - whether they were caught lying or completely misrepresenting their sources. From Irving, to Cole, to Rudolf, to Mattogno, to Faurrison, to Zundel, to Weber. Even Eric Hunt has retracted most of his claims. Irving doesn't even deny gassings anymore - have a look at what he say about Operation Reinhard.
either way, those who win win, thats the simple law of reality. The rest is marely excuses, and powergrapping attempts themselves- slavemorality
Evan Young
>1 post by this id copypasta thread #39057562957834856834 >people still bump it
Jeremiah Nguyen
true if they win it will be our fault for not fighting back thats why i propose we change that
Julian Jenkins
sure, but don't go around spouting shit about morals. Thats an entirely diffrent ideal
Charles Cooper
The problem is that jews and Aryan gentiles play by a different set of rules. The jew has no qualms about lying and deceiving.
Aaron Barnes
i was simply stating why they are winning and their lack of morals is a big reason
Josiah Young
Pic is a strawman. People don't really understand that all races are good at many things and weaker at other things. Jews are very well at inserting themselves into a civilization. Now this can be found biologically because of the fact that they had to survive in both the middle east and in Europe without a nation of their own. They were mistreated (Whether they deserve it or not is irrelevant to the point) and adapted to their surroundings. They had to scheme to survive because of the position they were in. The whole, "masters of deception" meme is a thing because without it they would have been massacred hundreds of years ago.
Liam Thompson
like i said, thats what all winners do. Ideals are much harder to follow then power. Either you do everything to achive a goal, or you set up rules. Doing both hasn't happend yet.
Levi Rivera
sure, and all you can do would be to 'fall' or 'rise' onto their level, and become what they are. Thats the nature of every ideologies 'big other'. The communists also want to achive power to destroy those in power, not realizing they are simply becoming them. This world isn't a fairytale, its alot harsher then what most people think. Ideals are harder to follow then power. Thats why most people take the easy route. Which is fine. As long as they admit it and don't fool themselves
Dylan Turner
>muh slave morality
stop sounding like a broken record. honour is a deeply ingrained european idea. you play a game with your friends, if you win by underhanded, subversive tactics and cheating, sure you won. but you lost the respect of your friends and sooner or later they will push you out, if you continue. people that can only survive through leeching off of others, creating conflict and then go into their hiding holes like a rat, aren't people.
most people except for one small clique on this earth understand this inherently
Kayden Powell
we dont necessarily have to stoop to their level if we know what they're doing and stop it like if we kicked them out of banks, media etc
Eli Richardson
Not just that, but the dumbfucks on this board are so convinced it's real, but have yet to foil a single "mossad" plot. They're all masters of hindsight and pattern recognition but can't actually predict anything.
Austin Murphy
like i saidGood luck attempting both ideals and power. Like every other ideological fool
Christopher Harris
Just finished your first philosophy course eh?
Alexander Williams
as far as I am aware, the germans in the 30s didn't stoop to their level. they outright talked about their intentions and what they dislike. about removing jews from media etc. it is power through violence, but at least it's direct and honest. As honest as you can hope for from a government instrument
Jason Diaz
Syndicalist principles is already the ideal version of ideas such as fascism, communism, anarchism ect. But that would require people actually putting words into action. Its much easier to sit around and hope for someone else to do the work, or marely use power on others
Tyler Evans
too bad niggajew
Jayden Morgan
unbump
Bentley Wright
>murrican aside from the killing, they even used democracy, which is fine. Just a shame they didn't take what they had, but wanted more, and destroyed themselves. Lets see if the next attempt at power will do the same >spoiler: it will, like always
Angel Peterson
being really good at manipulation doesnt make you superior a retard can be manipulative
Gavin Ramirez
exactly if being manipulative is a positive thing then why do we say being a psychopath is a negative thing as psychopaths tend to be highly manipulative
human beings and some animals have an inherent dislike of dishonorable behaviour. look into the psychology of playing in a social context, it's very interesting.
also there is more to this world than material posession and hierarchical standing. on top of that we are merely observing a very very tiny window of our history. who is and isn't winning is a hard thing to even discuss
Brody Reyes
no one minds having ideals as your standard, just don't confuse 'power' and 'ideals'. This flaw only happens in ideologies like communism and fascism. They want the 'feeling' of superiority, without understanding what is needed. No need to go all tin foil on history. As we all know its written by the winners. Which proves the entire point, actually.
Isaiah Ward
i see your point, but I don't agree. There are different schools of thought as to what power is. A strong Volk that can support itself in its entirety absolutely needs strong morals as a foundation. It's not like "jews" in their entirety have it made. It's a small clique that stands on top. People in Israel face the same hardships and dismays that we do
Oliver Brooks
Psychopaths tend to be very successful. In fact we often celebrate them (movie stars, celebrity, leaders, lifestyles of the rich and famous etc...) Many of the best leaders of history would be considered psychopaths. Virtually every president of the u.s. since jfk (and probably earlier) has had at least some level of sociopathy.
Movie stars manipulate our emotions by acting. They're literally professional attention whores, because they know that influence = power. Jim Carey would skullfuck a puppy if would make more people praise him.
We generally draw the line when someone goes beyond being manipulative, to being straight up abusive and draw a hard line when abusive goes to murderous.
meanwhile everyone whose been here has seen the same macros 100ds of times and knows about the holohoax
obviously you will convince noone , why try ? just pack your shit and leave , dont pollute the website with your hopeless attempts
Jordan Brooks
Genocide implies intent. We have Mexicans streaming across our border because they vote democrat, not because the Jews want to replace us.
Hunter Foster
Liar
Henry Cooper
Retard
Nicholas Phillips
>How did the Jews manage this when Nixon couldn't even keep Watergate a secret?
Yet here we are, talking about how there are errors in the official story. Of course it hasn't been discussed in mass media, but the, who controls the media?
this is not even an argument lmao
Jacob Sanders
>this fucking thread again
Tyler Rodriguez
You're literally using the "you misspelled a word in your reply which invalidates your entire post" argument to deny the holocaust.
Dominic Stewart
such a state hasen't been achived, the problem is that its a dreamed up community in the fascist ideology, as they themselves tried to 'rid themselves' of their ideological 'other' being the jews. Yet it twiested their ideology into that of subverting and controling other nations. Essentialy becoming the same form of power as they deemed to removed themselves off. You can't achive their version because its illogical. Marely a feeling.
Jaxson Sanders
>I don't get the holohoax denial thing neither do the jews
Asher Morgan
That’s literally what they say the Germans did, except the claim is the Germans actually committed a holocaust. I’m not a denier, but your argument strikes me as poor. How is it easier to hide having committed the mass genocide of tens of millions than faking it? You may argue they didn’t hide it, we know about it. But when it was ongoing, there wasn’t any widespread recognition.
Sebastian Collins
The holocaust is as true as the statistics about
>Black crime in America >Transgender suicide attempts >Murders in Latin American countries >Pitbull attacks
Jow Forums will only believe the ones that support their circlejerk, that push their agenda, out of pure bias and no evidence at all.
Andrew Wright
Love, is in many ways also highly illogical and merely a feeling.
And yes, I doo see it similar to you. All those things in the context of modern society dont work out in the long run. Which suggests that modern society at large is a faulty construct our forefathers erected. Nothing really works in this context, it is merely chugging along until the inevitable collapse. We see but a small glimpse of it, as our lifespans are very short compared to how nature (which we are part of) slowly works its way of balancing shit out
Daniel Evans
I don’t get your denial it’s kinda delusional to be honest
Sloppy job JIDF. Control the media = control the flow of information. All the evidence that you talk about actually clearly debunks the holocaust, it's just not talked about on said media. Also the fact that denying the holohaux gets you sent to prison is not exactly a good way to incentivize discussion.
See you against in a few hours when you make your new copy pasta memeflaggot.
Nothing happened ever is just a meme to troll people. The vast majority of people who are holohoax deniers actually just believe one of a few basic points (or combination):
>far fewer people died than is reported >many of the deaths that were reported as murders were more rightfully described as deaths by disease >mass starvation of the Jews in camps had more to do with allied destruction of the logistics system in Germany >have problems reconciling how so many lived in camps for so many years, had children, received health care, etc >have math/logistics problems with the reporting that all of the six million died in camps as is normally taught >that the number of Jews killed grows with every new publishing of a book >that so many of the 'death' camps seem to be located in what would later become East Germany while 'concentration' camps seem to have been located in what would later be called West Germany >That all of this happened to innocent Jews with no motivation other than being meanies by the ebil Nazi's >any number of ebil nazi claims that turned out to be false as to what happened in the camps as claimed by those who say they were there and ended up not being
Basically, most deniers come across a few points that do not add up or are easily refuted and then have larger problems.
If the whole thing were reported honestly and accurately likely far fewer people would have problems with it. But then it likely wouldn't be as powerful for propaganda either. And thus we have another problem.
But the reality is that most people who are described as denying the holohoax do not believe that no jew ever was killed by a german during WWII.
Chase Nguyen
Clan-like behavior in a society of individuals will always have an advantage over those who aren't clan-like.
>he hasn’t watched the greatest story never told You have to go back
Ryder Hughes
This is a faggot strawman. Have immoral people lost ever?
Leo Hall
Outlandish claims need outlandish evidence. To suffocate 6 million people with insecticide and then burn them into thin air is logistically not reasonable at all. Try to figure out how many per minute that would be. Totally crazy. Nuremburg were show trials. Much like Abu Ghraib/WMDs
Anthony Roberts
of course he's not did you not read above , we get this reposted every day , as it is , copy-pasted
>as they themselves tried to 'rid themselves' of their ideological 'other' being the jews
this shows you are very ill informed , the concept of "otherness" is a jew one, since they are alien to minkind
the jews is not an ideological enemy to fascists, the communist is the jews is a racial enemy , a semite a nonaryan , to natsoc
but oh wait internet has exposed jews and unveiled them completely and now jews are a fucking virus that tries to absorb wealth , weaken faith and degrade decency in any society it coexists AND must be wiped out and/or its jews physically exterminated
NOW it MUST be done , no other way , jews are infectuous
Nathaniel Long
Yeah no. There is a reason those cockroaches have gotten expelled from so many countries throughout the years. Being dicks to everyone they encounter therefore having to be con artists in order to survive as a consequence isn’t something to admire or even passingly observe. Its a result of their own doing.
Are you familar with Operation Snow White? Jow Forums didn't like it. even though they won, they won.
x1000 people and x1000 years
Anthony Ramirez
>those who win win, thats the simple law of reality. nonono , that's satanic faggotry, only spiritual law wins and those who raise their arm get it broken, so jews = destroyed completely and rebroken as a people for the Nth time , as they now openly call for the destruction of the west
Logan Sanders
Jews, like many societies, have a superior culture because they defend it. Jews are *effective* at surviving among other humanoids because they have spent millenia refining the practice of social domination down to a science and discipline, and have managed to codify some of the uglier aspects of primate competition as actual spiritual canons.
They have also learned the value of diaspora so that they are never too tied down to one spot or too invested as an identity to one nation or land.
They learned this was necessary in their cyclical existence, even if most Jews individually dont know it.
The gamble each generation takes is not being in the time or place there will be a purge, but a purge is always lurking around the corner. They know that the best life is had in management, but that is also where the risk is when something goes horribly wrong. So if you've managed to lead a successful life at a time when a lot of other Jews are doing the same thing, the risk becomes greater. The more Jews in management positions, the more risk the group takes when things start going wrong, because they know for their system to work, they have to remain a minority.
99% of Jews are not actively engaged in Zionist politics and most dont realize they are exploited also. Judaism as a social model demands the system be protected even if at the expense of the individual who is in it.
To get this effective population, their culture has to be beaten into their heads at birth and they are raised to deliberately feel alienated and threatened to maintain group cohesion. So growing up Jewish is probably an adolescent nightmare among gentiles.
While this overwhelming majority of Jews do not actually seek domination culturally in collaboration, they nonetheless present this appearance because they all follow the same values of self interest and their aims tend to overlap, like law and finance. So there is usually no conspiracy but the result is the same
>To suffocate 6 million people with insecticide and then burn them into thin air is logistically not reasonable at all.
and no historian claims that ever happened. this is a straw man.
why not actually learn about the historical facts instead of ranting about things that never happened then trying to claim a stupid victory?
straw man is not the holocaust. denying it, or knocking it down, has nothing to do with the holocaust.
Angel Ross
show us the facts homo. once you prove it happened i will then deny it to spite you. i'll also shit in your skull lets go.
Chase Cook
>once you prove it happened i will then deny it to spite you.
yes that seems the typical way of deniers. they know they are lying, but do it anyway. Why should I bother to engage with you? you have already admitted you have lost.
is the idea that the controllers have broken us into INSTANCES or servers like WOW. They are separating us into digital compartments >A NEW FORM OF CENSORSHIP
This goes into dimensions, tech control, Twitter servers, digital concentration camps , internet Gulags and MORE!!! >A NEW THEORY
Jews always claim as much oppression and victimization as they are allowed to get away with. It's like step one in how to jew. The holohoax was just the first time in a long time that they sold it as a means to an ends to the standing powers that be. And we were all fucked from there.
>those who win win exactly, we can only blame ourselves for losing. every loss and every victory is deserved. next time fight better. not to say that you shouldn't hate your enemy though, hating your enemy is good motivation.
as repeatedly requested, give me a source for this claim about the mural. give me a source for this claim about the kindergarten.
I did not see the video you claim they were mentioned in. And since you frequently make mistakes about facts and claims that are not warranted by the documents or videos that you have referenced, I refuse to believe that this happened unless shown evidence of it. your claim these things existed is not sufficient. so stop fucking about and give me a source better than your vague memory of a video you once saw.
as for the maternity ward - read the article linked and come back to me - tell me just how that is inconsistent with the other accounts of the camp as a slave labour camp, and how that could be inconsistent with a program of selection for slavery and the non selected being disposed of immediately and not fed, housed, etc.
When she arrived at the camp, Leszczyńska found a German doctor and told him she was a midwife. He assigned her to work in the camp’s “maternity ward,” a set of filthy barracks that was less a place to care for pregnant women than a place to usher them into death.
Most pregnant women at Auschwitz were simply sent to the gas chambers. Women who found out they were pregnant at the camp were sometimes given abortions by Gisella Perl, a doctor who helped prevent hundreds of women from giving birth. Often, when women were discovered to be pregnant they were summarily executed.
Others were sent to a hospital barracks to wait out the rest of their pregnancy in squalid conditions. “Sister Klara,” a midwife who had been sent to the camp for murdering a child, oversaw the barracks with a woman named “Sister Pfani.” They were in charge of declaring babies born in the ward stillborn, then drowning them in buckets, often in front of the mothers who had just given birth.
I wish you had also screencapped my later response in teh at thread - where I said I accepted your argument that Wiesel was in Auschwitz, adn I had been mislead by a (non holocuat denier) who questioned Wiesels credentials. So it is deceptive to title the graphic as "french denial" it is merely not french scepticism about one witness, and a mistakeen beleif which you helped correct, adn is a claim I would no longer make.
honesty on your part would suggest you made that clear.
