Appropriates the surplus value you produce

Kikey McDirtyjewson

>labor theory of value

NEETs are our time proletariat, they have the time to study marx and organize

>i dug this hole and refilled it for 12 hours
>pay me

he provided the manufactoring process thus has some claim to your surplus

> not bitch about my boss on Jow Forums like a cuck

oh, he thinks he is not a cuck already cute

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I can't find anyone else willing to pay me more for the labor I produce, and I don't know how to create something more valuable and sell it myself.
That's why.
Who else is going to buy my labor at a higher rate? Or, what else can I produce with my current skills for a higher wage?

I stocked some shelves in Walmart so it's mine now

>NEET lefties organizing for anything
pic related

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Because we love democracy and freedom. Also this handsome gentleman provides us with 57 flavors of potato chips. 57. Thats right. How many flavors of potato chips did communism give to russia.

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No they aint, the idea of a proletarian revolt is that it consists of underpaid people you cant do without. Neets are overpaid people nobody needs, so the exact opposite.

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>put his house on the line to start the factory
>if factory failed, he would be destitute
>if factory fails, he will be destitute
>if factory fails, you go work at another factory
back to social studies user

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But I'm my own boss and the value of work I do is already subjective as fuck.

if it was easy to produce the value on your own, you would not need him. He took a loan risked his future, procure machines, secured markets and negotiated wages, while you on the other hand went when all that work was done, learned to press buttons in order and complained you are ought to get the entire value yourself. How greedy can you be ?

It was agreed upon at the beginning of my employment where I use his facilities, equipment and infrastructure to work more quickly and efficiently than I would be able to alone.

Factories these days are heavily subsidized by the state, taxes are negotiated. The risk is minimal to companies.

I wouldn't be able to do it on my own so i voluntarily cooperate with him.

He created the company and job in the first place. It' s his right, commie.

Don't forget he has to pay electricity bills and water in his factory. That gets pretty expensive.

Thats a generalising and uninformed opinion.

yes and factory owners these days don't wear three-piece suits and tophats. i was talking about the concept of entrepreneurship in general and not specifically factories.

you mena manages his wealth in way that allows you to produce value that you share with him as payment for the possibilit yot produce wealth with his exiting wealth

that's whyeverything is becomming more shitty.

sounds like a criticism of bureaucracy and state power, not necessarily over private ownership/production of capital

>I did a thing so I get money
>you invented a robot to do the same thing but I still get money

Because the new boss will be worse than him.

>NEETs are our time proletariat,
Proletariat is by definition "workers" or "working class". The memes just write themselves.

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The Labour has to be socially useful for there to be surplus value. There is no social value in digging a useless hole over and over again.
At least understand the basics of the theory before you criticise it. you moron.

What do you do for work? What value do you create?

>socially useful
still fucking retarded and arbitrary
if people found it entertaining to watch me dig and refill a hole for 12 hours it would be deemed as socially useful
I'm still not creating value. Therefore the labor theory of value is retarded.

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>working for someone is the same as being a cuck
You're right, faggot, we all should be business owners

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Think the reimbursement difference is greater now between highest paid and lowest paid within a company compared to start of industrial revolution though? Less risk to capital more upside?

>Instance theory

is the idea that the controllers have broken us into INSTANCES or servers like WOW.
They are separating us into digital compartments
>A NEW FORM OF CENSORSHIP

This goes into dimensions, tech control, Twitter servers, digital concentration camps , internet Gulags and MORE!!!
>A NEW THEORY

This is pretty Almond activating
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Check it...

IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU ARE IN MY INSTANCE!!!

Only criticism I have is the lines are blurred between private Enterprise and government. Seems like they are almost the same thing now?

because some pigs are just more equals than others

Nope. Go read at least the wiki article dumb dumb before you make posts

What do you think about the blurred lines between banking, media, gov and the jews?

Different pay has to do with your talent, education and durability, not with capitalism, a CEO doesnt own capital by himself. Also Rockerfeller would be 4x richer than jeff bezos is today so your statement is untrue.

what's the baseline for the surplus? (this shuts the commie down)

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Definitely where things get complicated. You see this problem emerge first with the Rothschilds and the Monarchies of Europe. Even kings can lose against a force with monetary control. The good news is that this form of monetary control is always done by nearsighted kikes that can never run civilization for more than a couple of centuries, but it seems to be the problem we keep running into in western civilization. Whether or not its something that is exclusive to jews is something I'm not entirely sure. The Rockefellers definitely sold out our country in some ways, though who knows how kike controlled they were from the start. Henry Ford seemed pretty based though. I'm also not sure what can even be done to combat the problem.

>difference is greater now between highest paid and lowest paid
what has this to do with anything? What would you expect the ration to be (in numbers)

Leading a business is not as easy as you might think. Its very risky.

Labor doesn't create value idiot. I don't care if its socially acceptable or unacceptable. I'm not arguing within the confines of another ideology.

u r paid for your time and that alone furthermore you agreed to such beforehand you have no claim to any surplus value unless the company offers gainshare you dumb stupid ignorant faggot nigger commie cuck shit.

yes but not in commie utopia

you get what you negotiate but commies feel entitled to other peoples wealth. that's why they come up with ratios and "equality"

Media private business government can more or less go under one semetic umbrella that needs to be passed seemingly. None are for the benefit of the nation's people.

Well it would've been much easier pre Internet to make a motza it seems like many areas these less ineffiences to take advantage of financially.

I do think down the track long term this is a good thing however.

>Less risk
No? More risk, because it's harder to get to.

Doesn't really bother me some are able to make outrageous sums. But let's not pretend corporations are taking huge risks anymore. Banking bail outs, can negotiate environmental rules, how much tax they'll pay and are able to push for more regulation to crush smaller competitors.

>Thinks that the labor of the one worker creating the product is the only expense and the owner pockets the rest.

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I think it's Jews and the upper echelon's of wealth (race tratiors) work hand in hand to strip the wealth from host nation's. For the most part the working class whites and blacks have far more in common than a 0.01% wealth type white and a working class white.

It seems a new development your founders seemingly knew of the Jewish scourge, spoke about it and wrote a strong mandate consititution that'd protect their grandchild's grandkids

How the hell do I stop him!?

I mean, I'm just working in my own shop using my own tools that I built myself, maintaining my own capital, using my own advertising to bring in new customer, and yet all of my surplus value just vanishes into some fat cat's bank account! I mean I've never even entered into any kind of agreement with the guy. He must be a sorcerer.

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This, unironically.
Commies everywhere only see the profit going to the owner's pocket.

Their hero Richard Wolffis a great example. He looks at Amazon's reported value of 130 Billion and thinks you can just take half. The idea that Amazon. Has 100 Billion in liabilities, and half of their net worth is their company name and good will is beyond his understanding.

ON NOES HE APROPIATES MY INVALUABLE PRICELESS BURGER FLIPPING SKILLS, HOW DARE HE
Kys commie fuck

Because not only do I not produce a surplus, I barely cover the cost of employing me in the first place.

heh
>looks at emails on other screen
>I should be working...

I probably create more value while fucking off on this site at work than he does all day.

commies producing anything of value, what a laugh. They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work was the sang in russia, and would be the sang here if that moron ever had his wish.

while using his materials and having basically no risk for yourself.

I really can't understand why socialists are so retarded to not understand something so simple. The entire 'surplus is just taken and he did nothing' bullshit meanwhile the socialist would have no productive value without that capitalist's machines to begin with.

yep.

It would be the people that NEET despises who would first open his house up to more families because OP only needs a room, then it would be cleetus who puts him up to the side of the ditch for not being a good party member before using one of the people's rounds of ammunition to remove the threat to the party.
If socialism ever happened, the people who currently push for it would be the first to die.

Because quantifying “surplus value” can only be done after the product is sold at market.

>muh surplus labor and value
>what is marginal productivity
fuck you commies are retarded

i also take suplus value from other people
but i cant avoid being robed because i buy goods and services
suplus value is appropriated in the moment of purchase of goods and services
the only thing that you can achieve is too take more value than you give
and speed of your enrichment must be >=7% per year according to jewish rules of acquisition

I'm an engineer. My work in itself has 0 value for me. Same with most people.

Do you think he's just straight up pocketing the check from the products you sell? There's rent, the cost of operations, making sure everyone has a steady paycheck as that's one of the most significant cost, advertisements, research, and trying to outbest your competition in prices. I'm all for taking down omni companies like google and mondelez international, but do you know who owns those companies? Do you know who owns the government? The same people who made up every communist higher up (Excluding Mao and Stalin). Even if it wasn't for lobbyist companies play a big part in what they plan as they have the excuse of not being the government. Every other day there's a communist meme thread that never details what they plan to do just how capitalism is so bad. Under communism, you don't get to sit around and smoke weed all day, and there is no such thing as unemployment. No magical products are being made if there is no one working retards. If you'd like to dig deeper into why giving the government more power than the corporations already have is somehow the opposite of being cucked, I want to hear it. Other than that communist turn off your meme flags so we can see your chink flags and tell you to fuck back off to hell.