Objectivism

>no arguement whatsoever

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It's """"objectively""""" in my best interest to exterminate each and every dirty rat kike.

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>Flag
>Accusing ethnostate proponent of being nonwhite
What mental gymnastic, race traitor bs logic is this?

>yes. The state is more important than you accumulating additional value and net worth thereby securing your own future without the state

project more, faggot. this

>nonsense gobbledygook that doesn't refute the post
well done lolbertarian.

Its called not being a retard with 60 iq like yourselves.

"Base the system on the racial collective"

Lets see what countries do this, Israel, oh. Yeah ok jew nigger you glow in the dark.

Nah. Govt creation of money and giving that to private banks or asking cartels isn't libertarian at all
Youve just exposed yourself as a summerchild with no grasp of history philosophy or economics
Enjoy your double digit iq. I know you will

So why do pure free market capitalists always rely on the nigger-loving government to bail them out with free gibs when capitalism shits the bed like in 08, just to name the most recent example?

Individualism resulted in Jews exploiting whites to the point we're approaching Extinction. Tell me more about how not America is better for whites than any historic white ethnostate.

>reading comprehension
Who should control the capital if not the owners of the capital itself? Capitalism is the ownership and control of capital. Basically any resource is capital
So you tell me who should be in charge of resources? Individuals or the state?

>Israel, Japan and the chinks can have ethnostates but you don’t get one goy
Fuck off kike

2008 financial crisis was caused by government regulation and central banking.

Capitalism has zero regulation and central banking is theft.

How would anyone exploit anyone without the state tho?

The greatest trick the jew ever pulled, was convincing us only their systems were viable.

THAT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM! REAL CAPITALISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED!

Daily reminder that "individualists" are defective and an evolutionary dead end.

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Winner winner
Chicken dinner

And that's why central banking isn't anywhere in any libertarian doctrine

What is the state but a collection of people. Whether it's one or many, they can always be exploited.

Jews invented libertarianism to justify unjust profiting without helping society

collectivism is selfishness because humans, as social animals, evolved to find strength in the group rather than alone, therefore acting for the good of all is the most selfish act. Disregarding this is just mental illness, acting in a way you think is for your own gain when it really hurts the group is self destructive in the long run.

>Rosenbaum
yikers!

Individualism doesn't mean atomised, it means not being subservient.

calling someone a Jew is totally an argument tho

ITT niggers line up to lick that boot

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No. The state is a monopoly on justice with the unique ability to tax
Maybe read some books and don't get your info from uneducated kids on this site senpai

Actually it was Jews who considered Capitalism racist and therefore welfare should go toward niggers, also that we should import all niggers into the Western world.
Ayn Rand was an atheist and was completely detached from mysticism.

>licks boots

>his entire ideology was created by Jews
damn I bet that tripfag is still goin too

all lolbertarians are suffering from idealism, which is its own kind of mysticism

>Actually it was Jews who considered Capitalism racist and therefore welfare should go toward niggers, also that we should import all niggers into the Western world.
you sure? that sounds like white boys burden to me
Rosenbaum was on welfare when she died btw

It's a Jewish philosophy of a Jewish woman, a dyke Jewish women at that. It is an antithesis to that of the Christian doctrine.

Lay down your Jewish arguments and I shall return. Of course if you do not I shall only assume you were too scared to fight the master debater himself.

What part of being enslaved by a dictator is relevant to maintaining ethnic homogeneity? Nice try commie Jew.

It doesn’t have to be a binary choice. Individuals should be able to use their property as they see fit, but shouldn’t be able to use capital to subvert or exploit the nation/race.

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>using jew as an insult when you follow a jewish ideology
???

>if you don't support an implicitly jewish ideology, you glow in the dark

Even with small communities, a heirarchy will naturally arise. In evolution of that, governance will follow. It will start small, and it will get bigger. There will be individuals smarter, or more ruthless than the rest who will find common cause and begin to enact their will over the rest.
You have the gall to tell me to read a book when you have zero understanding of human nature. Get fuckt you hoity toity faggot.

Capitalism isn't libertarian. Libertarians are anarchists who want no state at all, and don't believe in morals.

But what if the child consents, tho?
Fuck off and die, shittertarian, your kind is no longet welcome here.

Also, how do you explain the fact that the “free market utopia” Randfags like you love to pimp was based on a society, post-WW2 US, where gov involvement was astronomical in ways such as the GI Bill for education, massive MIC-contracts that employed millions, and the residuals from the New Deal that were still in effect, as well as the incoming Great Society of the 60s? The only era of plausible “pure” capitalism that occurred was the Gilded Age, and all that did was allow Jews to take control and created a polarized society of the vulgar rich and the absolute destitute. Is that your idea of a worthwhile society? Do you honestly believe you’d be a rapacious capitalist Darwinist billionaire in that system? You’d be dead in a month.

>Ayn Rand was an atheist
Being Jewish is not about religion. It is about nationality. Confession has nothing to do with it.

To quote Schopenhauer:

>[...] it is absurd to want to concede to them [Jews] a share in the government or administration of any country. Originally amalgamated and one with their state, their religion is by no means the main issue here, but rather merely the bond that holds them together, the point de ralliement [rallying-point], and the banner whereby they recognize one another. This is also seen in the fact that even the converted Jew who has been baptized does not by any means bring upon himself the hatred and loathing of all the rest [of the Jews], as do all other apostates. On the contrary, he continues as a rule to be their friend and companion and to regard them as his true countrymen, naturally with a few orthodox exceptions. … Accordingly, it is an extremely superficial and false view to regard the Jews merely as a religious sect. But if, in order to countenance this error, Judaism is described by an expression borrowed from the Christian Church as “Jewish Confession,” then this is a fundamentally false expression which is deliberately calculated to mislead and should not be allowed at all. On the contrary, “Jewish Nation” is the correct expression. The Jews have absolutely no confession; monotheism is part of their nationality and political constitution and is with them a matter of course.

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rand literally the greatest thinker of the 20th century.
if you haven't read atlas shrugged get the fuck off pol.

So an individual inventing something and selling it for profit doesn't help society? Society has the benefit of having this new invention now and individuals have the incentive to create more
Genuinely the only natural order of things and like it or not when the carrying capacity of these statist systems are met there will be a bifurcation. Like any other system. And the bootlickers will be without food or ammo or drinking water since they've relied on the state for their needs. Like proper cucks that they are

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Jews are collectivists, Ayn Rand is an individualist = comprehendo

Elaborate pls. what does the gif mean?

>Jews are collectivists, Ayn Rand is an individualist = comprehendo
she died while collecting government money you retard

the state is a mechanism controlled by the individuals who control capital.

the US founding fathers realized this when they made only land owners able to vote. They likely realized how disingenuous it would be to imply everyone had a voice when wealth was focused among only certain individuals.
they will always do it if they have an advantage, the only way is to ensure every single part of the nation controls an equivalent amount of capital. They will then all be on equal footing.

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Nationality, like how she detested her home country and spent her entire life destroying its foundations with facts and logic.
Nice try jew nigger, u glow in the dark.

But that's exactly what the state does is enforce exploitation by being the final arbiter and lone monopoly on justice

But you didn’t answer my question. It want about the causes. It was about the bailout. I’ll ask again: Why do capitalists always take nigger gibs when their ideology fails them?

Try to answer this time. Not deflect.

how is that that the more capitalism a countrey gets the more militarized its police force gets?

youtube.com/watch?v=4Zt7bl5Z_oA

China is state capitalism

>Recent agent-based computer simulations suggest that ethnocentrism, often thought to rely on complex social cognition and learning, may have arisen through biological evolution. From a random start, ethnocentric strategies dominate other possible strategies (selfish, traitorous, and humanitarian) based on cooperation or non-cooperation with in-group and out-group agents. Here we show that ethnocentrism eventually overcomes its closest competitor, humanitarianism, by exploiting humanitarian cooperation across group boundaries as world population saturates. Selfish and traitorous strategies are self-limiting because such agents do not cooperate with agents sharing the same genes. Traitorous strategies fare even worse than selfish ones because traitors are exploited by ethnocentrics across group boundaries in the same manner as humanitarians are, via unreciprocated cooperation. By tracking evolution across time, we find individual differences between evolving worlds in terms of early humanitarian competition with ethnocentrism, including early stages of humanitarian dominance. Our evidence indicates that such variation, in terms of differences between humanitarian and ethnocentric agents, is normally distributed and due to early, rather than later, stochastic differences in immigrant strategies.

The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentric Cooperation
Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation 16 (3) 7

DOI: 10.18564/jasss.2176

>jews are collectivists
And their small tribe dominates global wealth and completely controls superpowers like the USA. Funny how that works

Because capitalist production is commodity production, the statement that the goal of the process is the satisfaction of human needs is false; it is a rationalization and an apology. The "satisfaction of human needs" is not the goal of the capitalist or of the worker engaged in production, nor is it a result of the process. The worker sells his labor in order to get a wage. The specific content of the labor is indifferent to him. He does not alienate his labor to a capitalist who does not give him a wage in exchange for it, no matter how many human needs this capitalist's products may satisfy. The capitalist buys labor and engages it in production in order to emerge with commodities which can be sold. He is indifferent to the specific properties of the product, just as he is indifferent to people's needs. All that interests him about the product is how much it will sell for, and all that interests him about people's needs is how much they "need" to buy and how they can be coerced, through propaganda and psychological conditioning, to "need" more. The capitalist's goal is to satisfy his need to reproduce and enlarge Capital, and the result of the process is the expanded reproduction of wage labor and Capital (which are not "human needs").

Just jews having different ideas how to outjew goyim. Capitalism isn't unjust, but it becomes unjust when actions you do to make profit harm society. Libertarianism ignores this completely.
> So an individual inventing something and selling it for profit doesn't help society?
Depends if you have produced a car or if you have produced a porn film

Ayn Rand was literally a retarded kike. Corporatism is better than capitalism and individualism is a cancer.

Capitalism is the ownership and control of resources (capital)
Socialism and literally everything else under the sun is capital control by state
So yes capitalism is very libertarian

>So an individual inventing something and selling it for profit doesn't help society? Society has the benefit of having this new invention now and individuals have the incentive to create more
user, the market is flood with trash.
The whole "my products are making the world better" is a big jewish lie. The free market is mostly people selling retarded trash to retards.

Direct idiot-proof democracy
Distributism
Unjewed economy, education, judiciary, police, healthcare,...

And fuck statist rednecks, fuck jews, fuck commies, fuck boomers and fuck parasitic golems.

I'm all for it.

But I recognize the fragility of individualism.
The group is very powerful, and can destroy the individual easily. If society reverted back to a group mindset, the individual wouldn't stand a chance. It is civilization, law, high ideals, that protect the individual from the mob.
We in the west believer our individual opinions matter. In most parts of the world, people simply can't speak up because everyone relies on the group to survive.

Jewish Libertarianism is cancer.

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Vague, and therefore retarded. Elaborate subvert and the nation/race. Do you realise that subverting a Capitalist nation is illegal? What part of protection do you not understand in my post.

Also Hitler was a mystic, socialist and zionist, probably had autism too.

So remove the state and there's no system of controlling the people via capital

Securing a future for your children is impossible when your society is based on the accumulation of capital.

>Nationality, like how she detested her home country
It is not her home country. You clearly don't understand Jewish nature.

Quoting Schopenhauer again:

>[...] [The Jewish Nation] lives parasitically on other nations and their soil; but yet it is inspired with the liveliest patriotism for its own nation. This is seen in the very firm way in which Jews stick together on the principle of each for all and all for each, so that this patriotism sine patria inspires greater enthusiasm than does any other. The rest of the Jews are the fatherland of the Jew; and so he fights for them as he would pro ara et focis [for hearth and home], and no community on earth sticks so firmly together as does this.

Her home country is neither Russia, nor America, nor anything else. The country of the Jew is the Jewish people.

Not an argument against her philosophy tho
You're new here

Doolittle's popertarianism is a good improvement over libertarianism

The state does that

So the state should accumulate the capital?

No. The focus should be the well being of the citizenry.

>parasitically
That's why individualism is the only way. Abolish the state and the Jews have no levers of control over us

So who should be responsible for that "focus"

That simply isn't true. Homogeneous groups naturally make governments because they want to help each other.

The vast majority of people cannot be trusted with freedom.

do workers own the factory they work in? No, so it cant be socialism, but it's also not capitalism. It is state corporatism, that evolved from socialist, and USA is state corporatism that evolved from capitalism.

Global corps have taken over the world and worker rights are anathema to them.

but the state cannot be separated from capital. the state gets its revenue from capital. and the owning class requires an armed force to maintain its domination. without capital there could not be a state (not a technologically advanced one, in any case).

the state is nothing but the armed wing of capitalist class.

Marxism is almost a complete lie but libertarianism us just a half truth.

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It's not stealing, these fucking stupid people need to be gassed.

Thanks, that's great.

Then I wonder where we're to get the angels to run that government if not from the people?
Maybe just let gods chosen people do it for you huh? And you wonder how you always get jewed? You invite the jewing by demanding uncorruptable people to run the state which is absurd

Well, depends how you define "own"
Workers need it too

So capital cannot exist with the state?
If no state existed the gold and silver in my safe would have no value? Or my guns? Or my land? Or my tools?

>That's why individualism is the only way.

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>So remove the state
Well, that is the long term goal after all :^)
But there is a problem. As long as material conditions favor states, states will reform, and if you dont have a state the state next door will just take your stuff.

So untill such a time that global statelessness is possible (and this requires conditions to be such that you lose more through the hassle of forming a state than you stand to gain from having more power - a highly advanced and industrialized self-sufficiency that sees you not wanting things outside your immediate groups ability to provide) you require a state for protection.

Not all states are equal however, some states are less harmful to the people than others. The way we measure how harmful a state is, is by seeing who controls it and how representative it is of the people as a whole. As the state is a tool ensuring its control is distributed in such a way that it will have difficulty turning itself against a sub-section of the people is priority. The closer the state can be made to absolutely even control and representation of all the people, the less trouble it will cause until it can finally be destroyed.

"workers" need a state like they need a hole in the head

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A responsible, homogeneous citizenry and the government regulation that supports them. Capitalist endeavors that harm society should be prohibited. I'm not saying abolish private property, btw. There does however need to be thoughtful regulation in the kinds of businesses and enterprises that are allowed to operate.

You gonna answer kiwinigger? For someone who hates socialism you sure do love being publicly owned.

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