Some thoughts on military service

I was reading Hitler's Second Book and there is something I noticed about Hitler, in Mein Kampf and in this book. He ALWAYS mentions not only the German Army, but military service in general in a very high light. In Hitler's Second Book, he mentions how the Jews hated the German Army because money was not the most important thing. Your accomplishment, loyalty, and honor were most important.

That is one thing I really liked about the Marines, money wasn't everything, and it actually gave you the ability to save cash for when you get out. I think the "die for israel" meme is stupid personally. Granted, we aren't "fighting for freedom". That is just stupid. In the American Revolution, we 100% did that. But even as a Mercenary or whatever, some people just are born for war. I feel that way, that I only belong in the military. Unfortunately I can't re-join for medical reasons, but I was thinking French Foreign Legion.

Also want to say, serving in the military, in a way you ARE defending freedom because current military theory is different than the past. Since the invention of nukes, militaries around the world have had to essentially look as strong as possible in order to prevent conflict. Without a standing army, we would be invaded, so being apart of the military you ARE defending freedom.

I completely understand why Hitler spoke highly of military service and why he said that was the continuation of school for young men. I feel that the constant military bashing on this board is not just the "die for israel" meme. I think it's because some people are in better shape and have more courage than you, so you feel you have to bash them. Anyway I think I am going to try and join the French Foreign Legion, and steal all French women. But seriously I don't want to worry about bills anymore, civilian life was never for me.

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>try and join the French Foreign Legion
You have no idea where you are getting into. You are so clueless, that you don't even realize that you joining the FFL is contradictory to your whole wall of text.

You actually read that whole rant?

Not everyone is a pussy fat loser like you two

have fun

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That's fine, but join your America's military. Avoid the FFL. You have the best military in the world, the mere fact of you considering joining the FFL is beyond me.
The Legion is not what you think it is.

So tell me about it, were you in it?

why would i want to die for the jew?

Nobody said anything about dying, join the navy or something, you can learn some useful skills, become physically fit, and there’s a low chance you will die

>muh honor and loyalty
Enjoy dying to replace white countries with shitskins

Nice.
>FFL
Just dont kid. Im pretty sure within the next 5 years theres gonna be enough war for everyone.
Train and study.

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fuck off nigger your discord is shit

The argie is correct, what do you think the FFL fights for?

>we would be invaded
We've been invaded for over 50 years and occupied. Military can't act without orders, militiamen are too distracted with muh 2A activism to act. The only outcome is eventual civil war, the sooner the better but I wouldn't count on it as long as bread and circuses are plentiful.

I joined out of honor, glory and all that other shit in 2006. I was out by 2010 and I just wanted to put that chapter of my life in the past.

Guys like Smedley Butler had it figured out in the 30s. War is just business and the military is just like any large corporation. There are good guys, bad guys, guys who shouldn't be in charge but are and so on. The only difference is that unlike McDonalds or BK, you can't just quit or tell your manager to fuck off- you need to do what they say and if they are wrong, you die.

There is no question the training you are given is great and if you have no structure or discipline in your life (as I had) before, it'll create it for you. But if your idea of military service is heroics, then you need to talk to a few veterans.

Hitler was definitely a brave man and had a decorated military career and truly came into knowing himself in his service. Which is why he talks about it in such glowing terms, but many people find that the military isn't for them and they end up depressed and even suicidal in some cases.

He just said he can't rejoin for medical reasons.

>Unfortunately I can't re-join for medical reasons, but I was thinking French Foreign Legion.
what makes you think they will take you with your shitty health?

Wouldn't the medical reasons stopping you from rejoining the Marines cause you to fail the FFL's medical as well?

he probably thinks FFL is still the meme it used to be

Meme? From what I understand they are pretty tough.

This, there is a reason why the vast majority of people leave after the very minimum service.

as in anyone can just join up and they always need more

The united states marines are not the prussian german army.

OK, I understand.

So what are you doing to stop it? Oh yeah nothing.
If it's a magical jew I don't care, I only care about improving my own life right now
no they will never know

yea I get it, I was in for 4 years, but I found civilian life isn't for me, the structure and discipline is actually good for me. I also like the camaraderie and stuff like that (always going to be assholes, but made a lot of good friends). Civilian life makes me a lot more suicidal than the military ever did.

May I ask what is the nature of the medical condition?

They found out that when I was 13 I used to take medication for depression because my Dad was a veteran and I would go to the Navy Base psychiatrist as a teen.. and I never mentioned it when I joined so I got discharged. So basically for taking anti-depressants when I was 13.

I don't think I have depression though, I was just moody like anyone else at that age and the psychiatrists just want to force pills down your throat no matter what

>I used to take medication for depression because my Dad was a veteran
I guess I share something in common with you because my dad was a veteran too. He was a fucking mess after Vietnam and his only proud memories were his time in the military, so I joined when I could because I wasn't focused enough to do well at school.

There are plenty of guys with the same story inside, but if you have any brains or dreams, you'll just want to leave when you can.

The 'civilian world' is the real world whether anyone in the forces wants to admit it or not. Sooner or later, the military will be done with you before you are done with them and if you don't have a plan then you will just end up like those losers waiting for memorial day to get their 'thanks for your service'.

That sucks. Unfortunately I don't have any knowledge of the FFL but from what I understand they are quite tough. My personal opinion is that you'll be a mercenary for the wrong side. And I think it is a 5 year stretch which is a big chunk of your life. There are worse options though.

Jesus man join the TA or something.

>I was thinking French
Really? The French not only suck at war over the last 150 years, they treat the FFL like the boyscouts. If you did end up in war, you'd be under-supplied and essentially cannon fodder role.
If you want to do service, there are plenty of Merc organizations that will pay you enough that you can stay well supplied, and you get some say on what battles you join.

I thought the FFL couldn't, by law, be on French continental soil?

Haven't really thought about that, like blackwater type organizations and such right? Probably worth looking into. Not sure how hard it is to join up though

They definitely are, they are used to patrol Paris for example on counter-terrorism patrols

Did you complete your commitment to the Marines before you got disharged or did they cut it short?

They cut it short about a year but I was let out with a general discharge under honorable conditions fortunately

So you made it through boot camp?
If you were deployed in any combat capacity getting a job will be easy.
The childhood health issue would violate US HIPPA(sp?) laws to be required to answer or to be shown. Your discharge would be available for anyone looking.

Honestly I don't think the FFL dudes can really see the discharge, but I will tell them I was in the Marines and got out honorably, and leave it at that unless they keep pressing then I will make something up. It's not super easy to find info on a discharge unless you have the actual papers. and the FFL doesn't have access to US DoD servers or anything.

There are many ways of self improvement and discipline to be found outside of military service but I can appreciate how you must feel. Have you ever considered long term worship like a monestery or something?

Don't think that is really for me... I like girls too much

>The highest form of honor and loyalty in this world is attained by serving the will of millionaire lawyers in the nation's capital
Darwin Award candidate detected

In my opinion if you want the structure and discipline of the military you will need to join a military. It will be easier to get out of a mercenary organisation when you change your mind though. So maybe try for that first and if it is not for you, you can resign and then try the FFL.

What was Hitler doing before he joined the army? The army gave him everything so little wonder he thought that way.

Trump is a merchant, look at how he conducts policy.

The caste system didn't magically appear out of no where.

I hate it. I’ve been standing in line for two hours waiting to get breathalized so that I can drive home

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>what do you think the FFL fights for?
Mostly money to pay off my civilian debt and for prostitutes and alcohol. There is really nothing else to do there.

>you'd be under-supplied
Yes.
>essentially cannon fodder role
Basically yes, but in reality it is not as bad as it sounds.

OP leave FFL as only the last solution. Enlist only if there are no other doors left open anymore for you. Also you are American, enlist in your own military, it's better. Also you can enlist up to 39 y/o, so I guess you have plenty of time too.

For even a basic bitch contractor work you need some serious military background today. If you don't have that, you won't get the job, it's not early 2000s anymore.

It kinda is my last resort, not too many options to make money around here, I just want out of my situation.

It's a good way out, if you really really don't have any options left. If you do still have some, you will be hard-pressed to leave, sooner or later. Most people are.

WOWWWW
wtf man?
Where are you stationed. I was in Oki, got fucked up all of the time. Couldn't give a fuck.
t. 0311

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Where can a civilian get tactical military training without joining the military?

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I obviously has no experience with US companies, but Daddy Garrand always recommends:
>KÄGWERKS
>Haley Strategic
>BAER Solutions
>Esoteric
So I guess these companies are 100% solid.

Trump sais. Concentration camp for all illegals. All violent niggers will be culled on sight. Expel all muslims from USA.

Sign me up. otherwise go fuck yourself.

Pendleton.
I’m told it’s a different corps now

Actually, we don't need a military at all, beyond the folks who launch the nukes and some scouts when you think of it. We could go total drone military at this point if we returned to our isolationist roots.

>navy
>physically fit
Lmao

I can't wait until you get pinned down by gun fire and have your head blown off.

You deserve to have IED's planted on your front lawn.

You deserve to have your whole family captured and tortured in front of you before being executed by maximum ball whipping before you're put inside a metal container and shot directly into the sun.

You are a shill for the United States Military and should shoot up your base, followed by putting a round in your own head.

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It was the discipline and brotherhood he liked. I doubt he liked getting gassed by his own doods

The US military is used to distract White men from their country being flooded with brown people and their white women from being destroyed by feminism.
>Can't do anything about the jewish problem when you're literally serving and fighting for jewish interests

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All you need to do is lose 100 lbs and they might take you
Mr. Aryan hero, I know you are fighting off niggers and jews with your bare hands to save the nation

Guy.. I spent 11 years in the US Army as 11BB4. I'm telling you, you don't know what your doing. I'm assuming you watchef a documentary about them on BBC, Vice, History Channel, or similar.

>ITS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS

You don't know what you're getting into. Not in a tough way, not in a Green Beret, Army Sniper, or SEALs way, in a bad way. A very very bad way user. Don't do it, I'm telling you, let it go unless you are entirely decided already.

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whatever kike
>I enjoy responding to these JIDF bait threads and giving them data to study

Went to ranger school. It was tough physically. I failed the land nav, got recycled, failed again lol. Didn't bother me too much though because I only had a year and a half left on my contract.

Easy there Ahmed

Also
>America has some of the longest boot camps in the world, SOME, of the best equipment, our Army and Marine Snipers are only matched by Russian Snipers, and perhaps German and a handful of Canadian.

FFL are underfunded, undertrained except for thier jungle training, over worked, undermanned, underpaid,

We used to get breathalyzed every morning before PT. Shit was fucking gaaaaaayyyyyy.

This guy gets it

>I will make something up.
I wouldn't bother. They may ask why you didn't reenlist.
The marines were essentially claiming you lied on your application. I would not suggest lying twice.

OP I am a vet, and I would against military service for the following reasons:

1) We are not fighting any righteous wars. Half of America forgets we're still in Afghanistan despite there's no reason to be there when our government is in fucking peace talks with the Taliban. It's a joke.

2) We don't fight wars like we SHOULD. That means razing and burning enemy cities and strongholds. Every military aged man is either killed or in put in prison. The children and women are detained until proven they are not enemy combatants. For the men put in prison, they ARE NOT sent to fucking GITMO for seven years, but either are proven to be enemy or innocent.

3) We should NEVER have been in Iraq. We should have already destroyed Saudi Arabia, Iran or systematically killed all the cartels in Mexico. If you believe we should have been in Iraq, see point #2.

4) We should NEVER, under any circumstances, bring in immigrants from countries we are at war with.

5) We have enemies of this country and the values of the TRUE American in this country, both in office and in the population. We shouldn't be fighting foreign wars when we have vermin to kill at home.

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That being said OP, there are good things about military service and lessons to learn, but if you're already a selfish, low IQ degenerate piece of shit, the military won't fix you. You'll be the same piece of shit when you get in and when you get out.

German military forces had another mindset in another time and were fighting for their very existence, unlike America since at least the Civil War.

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When Hitler wrote about that it was in a time were the Army actually served the nation (which was intrincically linked to the an ethnic group of people)

Today, armies serve politicians, who in turn serve those who wish to destroy our race.

Honor and duty means nothing if you serve the enemy.

Men that have served in the military and now reject this garbage should join up and create white communities in the countryside. Take your skills that you learned in the army and teach them to your sons, no need for your sons to serve evil but they still aquire the skills.

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Of fuck off. I'm in the military and nobody, NOBODY makes fun of the military more than the military. It's daycare for adults and we all know it. The only ones who get upset are the babies who never left BMW mode, where they wanted glory but joined a worthless trade.

I do get offended by ignorant leftist rhetoric about the soldiers (baby killers, etc.) The soldiers are good men and women who were fooled just as bad as the rest of us on Israel, and still perform incredibly brave and selfless acts with the best of intention. But making fun of the operation as a whole, and the entire military complex? That's fair game man. Members know better than anyone how ridiculous the beurocracy and system is. We just have to "Play the Game."

the american military fights for israel, fuck em

THIS. I was in Afghanistan in 09-10, and got to see the results of King Nigger changing the ROE that benefited the terrorists over American lives.

pay for tactical training
buy land and build a training site

t. demoralized leftist

>I can't re-join for medical reasons, but I was thinking French Foreign Legion.
Good luck with that.

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>FFL
Enjoy getting your ass kicked by slav niggers

>Also want to say, serving in the military, in a way you ARE defending freedom because current military theory is different than the past. Since the invention of nukes, militaries around the world have had to essentially look as strong as possible in order to prevent conflict. Without a standing army, we would be invaded, so being apart of the military you ARE defending freedom.

Not "in a way." You literally are defending AMERICA's ideal of freedom. Let's keep in mind that each nation has its different ideal of freedom. Image attached
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Has it been perfect? No. The USA, however, has tried to implement a geopolitical strategy that was similar to the British geopolitical strategy.

-Kissinger: Diplomacy

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Also:

The USA is a volunteer force with diminishing potential recruits (health concerns in USA), realities of war (PTSD) becoming more widely known, and greater demand (Great power rivals).

Really, the benefits of joining the US military are pretty crazy. There is risk, but it is worth it in most cases.

>I feel that way, that I only belong in the military. Unfortunately I can't re-join for medical reasons, but I was thinking French Foreign Legion.

You should rejoin but in a civilian setting. Get your education with the GI Bill and assist through civilian war. Civil-military integration really is the future for all military's

It's not my intention to boycott your thread, but I have a question that I've been pondering for a time and I think someone here will be able to give me a hand.

I'm American, but I've lived basically my entire life in Europe. I work as a developer (node and react, mostly) and my highest education is the European equivalent of an associate's degree. I'm quite interested in joining the US Army cyber command, but I don't really know what I should do. I wrote an email to a recruiter in Kaiserslautern, Germany (the Army's European recruiting station is there) and got no reply. I don't really know if I should get those 15 college credits (I asked the US department of education if my AD would be equivalent and they told me no and that there are no clear equivalencies between American and European degrees). I've also thought about getting some cyber security certifications from CISCO or CompTIA.

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This theory is correct but only when you are serving a nation which is not run by jews.

I would rather suicide bomb the parliament than work for you.

legionnaire there, if you're up to serve with 80%of idiots from whole world instead just your own country feel free to join.

>I think it's because some people are in better shape and have more courage than you, so you feel you have to bash them
disputing arguments like that would be waste of everyones time. hi slide thread, bye slide thread

kurwa, miałem 29 bmi jak się dostałem, biorą kurwa jak leci jakichś zdechlaków z Nepalu bo nikt nienchce napierdalać ścierą pod rozkazem alkoholików i narkomanów za 1300/1900 euro
Just don't bother with legion, now it's a fucking refugee camp with jobs what regular army doesn't want to do.