HIV is not a real thing

AIDS is a combination of diseases that US government say is caused by HIV- a virus which has never been isolated- aka it doesn't exist.

While AIDS is real, and stems from a combination of drugs and promiscuity, HIV is not the cause.

As such, homosexuals wishing to avoid AIDS, all you have to do is limit your sexual interaction to those who have done the same- and chances are that you'll be fine.

Happy Pride month!

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3053989
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pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.biochem.6b00159
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2459300
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3773172/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_immunodeficiency_virus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koala_retrovirus
nature.com/articles/nature12162
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op is a nigger

read this book

Inventing the AIDS Virus
by Peter Duesberg

amazon.com/Inventing-AIDS-Virus-Peter-Duesberg/dp/0895264706

>amazon.com/Inventing-AIDS-Virus-Peter-Duesberg/dp/0895264706

We know that to err is human, but the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake. I say this rather strongly as a warning. Duesberg has been saying it for a long time. Read this book.

--Kary B. Mullis, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1993

At last! This is the book every AIDS-watcher has been awaiting, in which the most prominent and persistent critic of HIV as the cause of AIDS presents his case most exhaustively and popularly. Duesberg, himself a virologist, stoutly maintains that HIV cannot cause AIDS because it fails to meet the rules by which a virus is implicated as disease-causing. He says that the causes of AIDS in First World countries most probably are overuse of toxic drugs--by legal prescription (e.g., AZT) as well as illicit use (e.g., the nitrite inhalants known as poppers that are used to enhance sexual capability)--and multiple and repeated infections with venereal diseases; in the Third World, they are malnutrition and maladies (e.g., tuberculosis) rare in wealthy nations but still prevalent in poor ones as well as, again, substance abuse.

I like Mullis- whose PMCR was used to show "hey, you got AIDS!"

He has a line, from the movie, that people have a hard time holding competing ideas at once- and that, he says, seems to be part of the problem.

His hypothesis is that mass exposure to viruses is what destroys the immune system- and as such, that abstaining from collecting too many viruses will likely keep you from developing AIDS.

And Mullis was (is?) working on a drug that would help the body react to viruses. Not sure how related to AIDS, but seems so.

Hopefully the project is alive, but has gone dark due to secrecy, rather than failure.

That knot in your rope is significantly weaker than if it was straight

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fuck off degenerate

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Did you notice that most disease names cause by a microorganism derive from that microorganism's name?!
AIDS is immunosuppression because of degeneracy.

That's a good point.

But a rope can be made bigger to accomodate for the added load.

HIV has been isolated you utter moron

Citation required

>featuring dante from the devil may cry series
all your pic was missing

literally the first few google hits
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3053989
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2949638

even gonna throw in a review paper of it's capsid structure, with enough refs to last you
pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.biochem.6b00159

even seen with electron microscopy: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2459300
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3773172/

that's not isolation..

>Faggot Month - Get Knotted.
nice poster homo

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A separate place for every race. Keep the colors separate

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the first two literally say isolation

all retroviruses are bullshit

PROVE they're real. you can't.

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>words determine realiity

Never heard of this.

And remember that HIV only exists because, to say otherwise, the American government would open itself to massive unrest and legal action.

>government is the only one trying to prove "hey, we were right"
>no one else

It’s gamer pride month. Fag pride month doesn’t exist anymore

fucking (((virologists))) are now saying there's cow AIDS:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_immunodeficiency_virus

and koala AIDS:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koala_retrovirus

they're trying to make it sounds like these retroviruses that destroy immune systems are found throughout nature. "of course one could jump to humans!"

again. where's the proof?

>proof
This is the new age of viruology- where you can either do the work- or you can say that your thesis simply can't be disproved...as though the onus is now in disproving somthing that doesn't exist...

here`s something for you OP

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The HIV genome has been sequenced retard.

Don't you guys have aids party?

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GRID is the disease and that’s what causes it

Gay-related immunodeficiency disease

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Didn’t famed scientist Lynn Margulis also believe this? She thought AIDS was actually caused by syphilis or something. She also believed 9/11 was a false flag inside job and that women can’t be good mothers and wives and also good scientists.

genders other than male and female are not also real

Aids stands for "ADIOS INFECTED DICK SMOKER"

Strangely that's the same thing, a girl at a rave ones told me.

I am on the fence regarding HIV/AIDS, although leaning towards HIV NOT causing AIDS.

Question for clarification: Duesberg says HIV doesn't turn into AIDS because no virus can lay dormant in the body for years, only to get worse. Apparently, a virus will be dealt with by the body immediately and what you then see on a test are antibodies, not the virus itself.

But what about herpes? You get that once and you then get symptoms for the rest of your life.

-A- genome has been sequenced.

>Don't you guys have aids party?
It's called the Republicans.

I don't know about that, but sounds about right.

>girl
>at a rave
>told me something
user.

It's not necessarily that AIDS isn't caused by viruseS, but that it isn't caused by a single virus.

>herpes comes back
It 'hides' in nerve tissue.

I did not belive her, joked about it:" so you want me to cum in your pussy?"

>virus cannot remain dormant
>herpes
First, what Duesberg says here is not a proof, but just evidence towards a opinion.

And the difference between herpes and HIV is that herpes has an initial outbreak that is like the rest, whereas for HIV people report feeling flu-like symptoms shortly before they test positive for it.

That's probably what SHE was getting at!

But if herpes can hide, why can't HIV? Or what you are saying is that one virus cannot mutate or cause a worse illness than it did initially?

sadly not she was angry at me for not taking her seriously....

Also hepatitis C (HCV) and I believe Hep B as well can infect your liver and then stay in your liver for years, until it has given you liver cancer or tuberculosis. How is that possible?

>from the movie
From what movie?

shouldn't you be touring with the Foo Fighters?

Duesberg doesn't say that a virus can't do X, but that it would be irregular. So much of the HIV/AIDS isn't that "it's not possible," but that "it would be unusual."

Consider that, if the US government admitted it was wrong, that not only would they be in shit, but the liability from drug companies would also be massive.

It's hard to take women seriously- most of the time they can't back anything up- and they'll be hostile if you ask them.

These viruses have a definite infection pattern- give contaminated blood, and someone WILL develop disease in a regular period of time. Plus, there are vaccines.

>what movie
House of Numbers. It's on youtube.

Biochemistry major here. HIV is a real thing. It has been well characterised and it has been isolated since the 1980s.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2949638

This article dates from 1987 (yes... I know this was before teh internetz but the original format has been transcribed and backdated to its original publication date).

The virus particle consists of 15 types of protein (pic related... it's an HIV capsid) and a piece of RNA (substance similar to DNA).
The virus RNA interacts with the DNA of human immune cells, forcing these to make moar virus proteins and copies of the virus RNA, which assemble into new viruses.

The virus can only be transmitted if the blood is directly exposed to it. This is why you can usually only get it from receiving anal sex (getting fucked in the ass rather than fucking someone else in the ass). The anus is not meant for sex, it is meant for shitting. Getting fucked in the ass causes many minute tears to appear along the sides of the rectum, exposing the blood to whatever is being pumped in. Hence the prevalence of HIV/AIDS among homosexuals. For normal couples engaging in normal sex, transmission is far less common.

The most foolproof transmission method, however, is sharing heroin needles, since these will be directly contaminated with substantial amounts of blood. But if you are doing heroin anyway, you shouldn't care, because you are most likely going to die very soon anyway.

There is no conspiracy theory behind AIDS. If some government wanted to exterminate all niggers in Africa they would find a much cheaper and simpler way to do it. Best bet IMO is to unleash the smallpox virus again, since nowadays almost no one is vaccinated.

And if you believe the Jews did it, may I remind you that Jewish conspiracy states that they are trying to destroy the west through faggotry and niggers, and the two groups most damaged by HIV/AIDS are faggotry and niggers. So no, it is not a conspiracy.

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>It has been well characterised and it has been isolated since the 1980s.
-SOMETHING- has been isolated.

>American government announces that it has discovered the AIDS virus
>American government produces information on the virus

Give me research from governments without political interest.

I just wanted to add: Condoms are completely useless against HIV because the pores in the latex are larger than the HIV virus particle.

Therefore, the LA county condom-in-porn laws are the biggest joke in the book.

nature.com/articles/nature12162

Is this good enough for you or is Nature also "run by teh Amurican government"?

Human immunodeficiency virus-1 (HIV-1), the predominant AIDS virus, contains a spheroidal capsid enclosing the viral RNA genome.
>predominant AIDS virus

>FIV
meh, nothing compared to FEV!

Decreasing fluid transfer means that condoms do help.

I pray to god every day that whore mongers dicks turn into scabs and fall off. And whores vaginas become sealed with puss.

Wasn’t there a medical expert that says there is no correlation between hiv and aids. And had money to prove it? The difference between an hiv-1 and hiv-2 is a molecular irregularity caused by inoculation of a serum. A buddy of mine was in a satellite room once and they zoomed in on his friends shoes he said he saw everything as perfect as day. And the guy told him that there are groups that get into trouble for playing rogue meaning they start using space satellite signaling against anyone they don’t like. Aids, Ache I Vi, Sat el lite.
The excuse is micro crystalline transmitters but that’s another lobby. Basically a guy said he isolated it and it was a small crystal. However in science article a guy said they had small crystalline receiver smaller than a particlr of powder that could transmit frequency.
A former acquaintance of mine was an Armenian and Soviet defector related to a geneticist whom always said HIV is so contagious you can get it from using the same toilet. You’ll later realize a saying and he is implying it’s an act of revenge. To him HIV+ are no good. They have something to hide.

Fuck jesus. Faggot doesnt do shit because muh emotions. Ive got no emotions jesus. Turn 5he sinners skin inside out. You wont see atear from me.

If HIV doesn't cause AIDS, then how do you explain Truvada?
It's a pretty effective anti-HIV drugs, and it works off the premise that HIV causes AIDS.

>dat pic
woh woh, cool it with antisemitism!

What you realize is HIV itself is an experimental lobby. No different than being born to an astronaut post space excursion.

Truvada's success doesn't prove that HIV exists.

It may indicate that it slows or stops the immune system from degrading.

>experimental lobby
What is this?

> Yes, it is the predominant one and almost all of AIDS is caused by this. There is another type that is limited to Subsaharan Africa that is slightly different structurally and less powerful.

Yes, there are different types of HIV. Shocker? No. There are numerous different types of Influenza virus (Flu), numerous types of Plasmodium (Malaria), and numerous strains of Yersinia (Plague).

There is variety in biology. If you do not know that by now you are very stupid indeed.

Also, I love how I have to provide good sources that are NOT connected in any way to the US govt, while you can't provide a single piece of evidence for your so called theory.

>where is your evidence that disproves evidence that cannot be reproduced?

Truvada is explicitly designed to stop HIV. If HIV didn't cause AIDS, then it would be worthless.

>the subsarharan disease is different than the one in america
>hopefully they eat this up so that we can continue having different onsets and symptoms

That's basically what he is saying.

>if a car is slowing
>then it must be the brakes

No you retard, HIV1 is worldwide, HIV2 coexists with HIV1 in some parts of Subsaharan Africa.

Evidence is not evidence until it is evident.

You're still using 2 strains to explain different disease patterns.

How so? Explain.

>car goes fast
>tap the brakes
>car stops
>repeat 1000 times
>works 999 times
that's a pretty solid indicator that it must be the brakes.

With AIDS, you cannot see the brakes.

what are you trying to say here?
i genuinely don't understand what you mean with this post.

By saying that African symptoms are different than non-African symptoms.

I do believe that AIDS is causes by viruses, but not necessarily the ones they say.

I'd have more faith in the hypothesis if the data were more consistent.

I'm saying that Truvada's success doesn't indicate that AIDS is caused by the viruses they claim.

Eh this guy be trolling he don't know nothin bout nothin.

>just believe a political disease

but it does

Great minds think alike:
youtube.com/watch?v=RCb9tdPIxoU

Begone Romanian, your lack of logic astounds me.

i'm not the one who denies scientific facts here

>scientific facts
>are determined by government
Nice appeal to authority.

Truvada was developed by a private company.

Yeah, and the company that makes it knows Truvada destroys bones and kidneys. They hid the safe version of the drug - invented in 1997 - until 2015.

If a company tied to the US govt as closely as Gilead will hide a safe drug and sell a dangerous one... what else aren’t they telling us?

What else are they hiding?

Truvada preventing symptoms doesn't mean that these symptoms are caused by AIDS.

I don't get what you're saying. That HIV doesn't exist?

May not have been hiding it, but there may have been other reasons, namely patents.

AIDS is the symptom.
Emtricitabine/tenofovir was approved by the FDA in 2004.