Define civilization.
Define civilization
Elijah Clark
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Brayden Perry
Absence of niggers
Ian Taylor
pipo
Nicholas Clark
Presence of niggers.
Luke Gutierrez
absence of kikes
Isaiah Wood
A civilization is defined by its civilians.
Ethan Wood
Anons...
Juan Young
Presence of White Males
Samuel Gomez
The consumption of nature
Parker Reed
Look at Africa, it's the opposite of that.
Luke Barnes
Human society with a large population and where rule of law trumps the rule of nature.
Isaiah Peterson
A society
Like this one we live in
Leo Lewis
So you would only consider large groups of people to be civilized? What is more civilized, a secluded monastery or the mongol empire? Both had rule of law.
Hunter Reyes
A pretty good game.
Jayden Reyes
Went to shit after 4.
Blake King
anyplace where whites outnumber shitksins 500 to 1.
Hudson Williams
"There are many cultures but only one civilisation. The European one."
-Mustafa "Islam Remover" Kemal Ataturk
Dylan Rogers
something burgers don't have
Sebastian Fisher
Organized large farming tribe.
Dylan Howard
The exact words that came into my head when I saw the OP
Owen Clark
Art+living+Cities.
Carter Watson
Were the vikings civilized?
Jaxon Harris
Your family doesn't constitute a civilization. Your street doesn't constitute a civilization. The mongol tribesmen didn't typically inhabit in civitas, while a secluded monastery is a product of that.
By definition nomads and small groups can't be civilizations.
Nathaniel Brown
a conglomerate of whites
Noah Hill
Getting closer user, what do cities and art represent? Why do we create these things?
Camden Jenkins
FPBP
Alexander Ward
>while a secluded monastery is a product of that
Monasteries still survived after Western civilization collapsed from the fall of Rome. If a small group of people exist rooted in one area in a state of permanence and jolly cooperation to better their understanding and mastery of the world, are they not civilized peoples? If not, then what are they?
Lucas Johnson
CIVILISATION can only be achieved when you ACCPET CHRIST in your HEART, your ancestors were all NIGGERS before JESUS CHRIST CAME and created WESTERN CIVILISATION
Samuel Foster
Depends on what you define by viking. I'm pretty sure there where cities, kings and laws up there. Heard they were referred simply as Danes when they showed up in the british coast, what we know nowadays as a viking is a stereotypical representation of the 900 to 1200 a.D norse raiders, and very rarely are represented doing something not related to raiding. They had stuff going on back in their lands.
Landon Gray
>I'm pretty sure
If there was civilization, you would be absolutely sure of it. We can look at the ruins of Athens and say "Yes, this was most definitely a civilization." Not really a whole lot of viking ruins to look at.
Leo Taylor
you fucking amerimutt retard of course there was a civilisation they were raiding on fucking modern 30 meter longships out of full tree logs
they had fucking metal plate armor
do you not use your brain?
Ryder Young
You seem upset. Military pursuits do not equal civilization. Please calm down and consider what you are saying carefully. Where are all the ruins of viking villages, user? Very easy question.
Brayden Nelson
>Where are all the ruins of viking villages, user?
thoughtco.com
literally first link
how can someone be so stupid and useless as you
Jaxon Rivera
It's a whole different topic. You seem stuck at some point of the concept.
A civilization is a thing, a chair is a thing.
People can be more civilized than other people.
Chairs can be comfier than other chairs.
It's not about proper behavior, you can send a dozen humans to the moon, but they will not be an extraterrestrial civilization, it doesn't matter how well mannered they are, or if they play the piano.
Isolated monasteries are not their own civilizations, they are part of one. If said civilization falls the monastery will follow.
John Russell
white man struggling to overcome the rest of the species
Ryder Jones
I'm absolutely sure of it, i just choose to word it that way. However, was it a viking civilization? Nope, what we call vikings were just norse raiders.
It would be like talking about hoplite civilization, or ninja civilization, or navy seal civilization...
Zachary Green
a society in an advanced state of social development
Jaxon Kelly
>thoughtco.com
user, this is does not look very civilized.
Carter Reyes
>advanced state of social development
how would you describe this to someone who has never seen it
Leo Martin
no they weren't civilized by a stretch
they were not a civilization
stay salty baguette
Angel Clark
Ryder Campbell
they lived in wooden houses and had a thriving economy and industry you re just retarded
Brody Rivera
poo in the loo,
drink water not poo'd in
build stuff then die
Jason James
Where is the permanence, user? Why didn't they build anything to last?
Jack Ortiz
>Define civilization
It's a THING that must establish mankind's dominion across the fucking universe, instead of being stuck in a tiny clown world.
Christian Morris
>Why didn't they build anything to last?
stone houses dont last forever either mate
I guess its just what they did witht he cheapêst available material, plus they lived in long houses which are necessary to conserve heat without good isolation, you cant make a fucking stone long house it doesnt work
you re trying to say the guys who had a thriving industry, strong economy, manufactured thousands of very high quality steel swords and armors, bbuilt the best ships in the world at that time lived in the forrest wearing only animal skin
Jose Nguyen
>no they weren't civilized by a stretch
Civilized as in well mannered? Obviously not, being stereotypical representations barely based on what someone who was on the receiving end of a norse raid said about them.
>they were not a civilization
hoplites were not a civilization
ninjas were not a civilization
gladiators were not a civilization
Easton Harris
based varg
Ryan Lopez
>stone houses dont last forever either mate
They last hundreds if not thousands of years. Where are the viking statues? Where are the viking frescoes? Ask yourself why other cultures built these things but vikings did not. Being advanced does not equate to being civilized.
>b-but the boats
Do not try to tell me that the artwork on the boats was inspired by order and harmony.
Dylan Adams
The ultimate result of civilization is the exact opposite of that though.
Jason Harris
Groups of people, with division of labor and hierarchy, who are able to settle permanently into one place.
Dominic Jenkins
>Where are the viking statues?
no marble, the ones they made wer epure shit I ll give you that
>Where are the viking frescoes?
the what
>Being advanced does not equate to being civilized.
it kinda does especially at that time though
maybe your point is that their culture wasnt refined by your criteria, but that too is false, you re just seeing the fucking raiding parties lmao
>Do not try to tell me that the artwork on the boats was inspired by order and harmony.
well kinda, look at that classic early nordic pattern on the neck
>muh the face is ugly
have you ever seena fucking gargoile?
Angel Ortiz
>no marble
You said yourself they were excellent at metallurgy, and there are stones other than marble which can be sculpted as well.
>the what
>hey this structure is built to last, let me put a pretty painting on it
>it kinda does especially at that time though
No, it doesn't. It was already established earlier in the thread that Mongols were not civilized, and their mastery of horse riding put them so far ahead of everyone else that it was like tanks mowing down Poland cavalry in WW2.
>art
The artwork of a peoples reflects that peoples' values. What do you think the society that created pic related valued?
Brandon Hill
Fuck you Civ 5 is the best Civ game.
Brody Perez
Civ 5 is the shitty dumbed down zoomer version of civ.
Christian Edwards
faggotry?
Ian Ross
And how about pic related? I don't see any viking construction of this complexity despite having far more wealth and technology at their disposal.
Isaac Myers
>espite having far more wealth and technology
they didnt they were less rich
Alexander Stewart
The people that built that had literally nothing.
Eli Cruz
Well we really don't know shit about our origins. We could be some alien science project where they arrived and spliced consciousness into our DNA or seeded cellular life like the prometheus squidward men did. This entire universe may be a hologram and reality could be meaningless... But I know with every fiber of my being that we didn't descend from niggers
Zachary Butler
You are being literally retarded
Ayden Barnes
>Well we really don't know shit about our origins
We know a lot. Whether or not we came from niggers is largely irrelevant when you understand the enormity of what happened after that split.
Camden Gomez
>y-you're dumb!
Asher Flores
Law and order. Being able to walk down a street knowing its highly unlikely terrible shit will happen to you.
Culture. Being able to enjoy new experiences like food, media or looking at art or magnificent buildings.
Progress. Getting up in the morning and knowing technology is a little bit more advanced than yesterday, that we know a bit more about the universe and the future is bright.
It doesn't matter how you get these things but a tribe or nation needs them to be civilised.
Grayson Ramirez
Best answer yet. I would say hope/confidence instead of progress, although maybe that is the same thing.
Dylan Wilson
Download and watch The 1969
BBC Documentary "Civilisation", Presented by Based Kenneth Clark. It was made before political correctness, and would be banned if it came out today.
In an extremely /comfy/ way, it perfectly defines what civilisation is, and is a masterpiece that everyone here should watch immediately.
After watching it, when you're sat thinking "that user sure was a great guy to share this with me", I only ask that you repay me by sharing the documentary with other anons. Pass it on.
John Evans
I have seen it, one of the best documentary series ever made. I also recommend "The Ascent of Man."
Bonus:
youtu.be
Hunter Perez
The Mongols actually brought public schooling to everyone when they took over China. If you read about Genghis Khan he was very much into civilizing the Chinese.
Lincoln Harris
Cheers Anons
Isaac Morgan
It's alright, but the Narrative is wrong.
The book Race or Mongrel describes the fall of Civilizations correctly, unlike the video.
Austin Kelly
Imagine being this possessed by ideology.