Let's talk about paganism. What do you think of it? If you are a pagan what pantheon do you follow?
Let's talk about paganism. What do you think of it? If you are a pagan what pantheon do you follow?
Austin Phillips
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Jaxon Flores
It's cool
Bentley Clark
Are you one?
Gavin Reed
Anyone?
Luke Martinez
Paganism is gay. Have fun in hell.
Xavier Rodriguez
It's the only religion that i felt drawn too.
Hudson Myers
I’m reading Asatru by Stephen McNallen right now. I’m buying a house pretty close to him so I can find some other Asatruars.
Mason Carter
Ian Green
Although I love this symbol, Isn't it later than pagan Europe?
Jeremiah Rivera
>eternal torment for believing differently
Only a Jewish mind could come up with this.
Owen Kelly
Same, too bad I have the eternal struggle of anglo saxon or Celtic
Liam Nguyen
That's interesting, hopefully you start something good user
Josiah Howard
it's cringe
Chase Evans
paganism is stupid and degenerate. fuck you.
Christian Rivera
I think it's awesome
fuck christcucks
Xavier Nguyen
flag fag
Jacob Russell
the christian god is clearly evil. why would anyone worship suck a dick?
Tyler Gonzalez
Seriously why do you get so mad? Like I understand disagreement but anger? Why?
Christopher Bell
same here lad. monotheism seemed like a joke early on, and then as you become an adult you realize atheism/agnosticism is an even worse joke. i respect hinduism and zoroastrianism, but paganism is the only one that stuck with me.
Colton Wood
I'm a Pagan. I came to understand my own system, although years later I learned that it was shockingly similar to Bronze Age Celtic Paganism. Also, I submit offerings of Frankincense to the Gods in thanks and appreciation. They've been really good to me, and I try to be good for them and act properly
Christian Harris
>checked
Also its starting to seem like that to me.
Isaac Young
>mad
>angry
I'm neither of those things. I'm sorry if it came off as disrespectful, was just another shitpost to me.
Camden Gomez
Do we know much about bronze age Celtic polytheism?
Jaxon Cox
Yeah, we know a little bit. I just remember reading through it and thinking a lot of what we do know sounded like my own beliefs. What are your beliefs user?
Jack Carter
Slavic Rodneverec here.
I thing ethnic European faiths are the only spiritual practices for white people.
We value our blood above all, we value our soil and so should we come to realize that we have our own spiritual grounds.
Slava!
Henry Hall
PART ONE
Heres the right way of life to be a polytheist (pagan):
>Follow what your ancestors most likely followed:
(i.e., Nords should follow Norse Paganism/Polytheism| Scottish, Irish, and British should follow Celtic Paganism/Polytheism| Germans, Dutch, and Belgians should follow Germanic Paganism/Polytheism| And Greeks and Slavs should follow Hellenic Paganism/Polytheism.)
>Study up on what the fuck you're doing:
If you're going to be Pagan try and understand what your ancestors probably knew, this may be a little to a lot, but it will always help and never hurt.
Norse Polytheism:
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Liam Morales
Robert Peterson
William Smith
Paganism is ultimately a bad end goal for spirituality.
Similarly how the goal of modern art is to let anyone be an "artist" without putting in the effort to study, practice, and refine the tradition of art and building up its previous foundation, adopting Paganism and skipping over the past 1,500 years of Europe's golden age destroys inherited philosophy, knowledge, and wisdom given by our ancestors.
Most all of Europe's greatest military minds, artists, emperors, kings, warriors, philosophers, and scientists were devoutly Christian and from its philosophy they drew wisdom and an ultimate goal. Christianity's ideas helped shaped our core understandings of ethics. Remember, you are inheriting the ideas of artists, philosophers, and great leaders who were inspired by Christian teachings. To just steamroll them into the pavement in favor of Paganism is destroying wisdom. Honestly, imagine yourself in the same room as Newton, Aquinas, Charlemagne, and many great names and lecturing at them at how stupid they are.
The average joe looks at modern Christianity and sees that it is weak and a corrupted form. This is a true observation. However, equally so Paganism has been a very hippy liberal movement up until only very recently. If you look on Pagan websites on their opinions of the Alt-Right, or The Golden One, they'll use the words "bigot" and "racist" a lot. Does this mean Paganism was never a successful ideology? No. This means that the modern version of Christianity isn't the accurate form and that it is a product of the dying West, not what is killing it.
More troubling is that a lot of neo-Pagans I encounter are basically Atheists. They don't believe in a real spiritual idea of things, but believe everything to be a metaphor to be interpreted in the purely physical sense. This is another thing that will bury the West.
Ryder Green
it sounds pretty awesome.
Tyler Brooks
it's weird how post chistian Europeans acted exactly like pre-christian Europeans
Henry Roberts
Adam Johnson
I think it is entirely possible to use modern technology, society, to put yourself more in touch with Pagan beliefs. Even incorporating lessons from Christianity or Philosophy outside of your own beliefs can be beneficial. Use the past to inform your present, don't just pretend you are living in 2nd Century Bavaria
Blake Robinson
The only sensible option for spiritual europeans.
Nicholas Bailey
Noah Stewart
>Europeans distancing themselves from the semitic desert demon will bury the west
You get the rope kike
Justin Campbell
I go outside and spend time in nature with my dog and wife and children. I have never been to a church and I don't pray to any pagan dieties. Dont make it fucking cringey. Just enjoy the natural world.
Charles Jenkins
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Christianity's fundamental teachings are literally stoicism. Stoicism is perhaps one of the more ideal philosophies for creating a logical less impulsive society, and I think that manifested itself greatly with the proud history of Christian Europe.
Kayden Roberts
What am I looking at?
Tyler Green
Christianity is what originally united the white race, to steamroll it because some atheist Jews have perverted it (like all western institutions) is moronic.
Carson Johnson
If paganism means indigenous european religions then I think its kind of neat in theory, but not enough credible stuff survives to make a meaningful religion out of. The contemporary pagan LARPing is pretty obnoxious.
Pagan conceptions of the nature of reality are almost certainly more correct than abrahamic ones though.
Jason Clark
I think Europeans have a Pagan core, but Christianity was a natural progression from that. It is like having a masculine sense of pride in your physical abilities for savagery, but having on top of that the mind to use it as a purposeful tool rather than on impulse.
Like I said, Christianity is a stoic philosophy. It makes sense for many white men to be trying to rekindle their masculine sense of identity, as they should, but are mistaking that for the ONLY thing worth rediscovering. With that said, stoicism is a pointless ideology if you are not capable of create substantial force because there's nothing worthy to control.
That's why many classical Christians in European history have been very much masculine, violent, powerful, and deadly, yet were able to build such wonders.
Hunter Harris
this.
this meme that jews created Christianity is bullshit, rabbinic Judaism and Christianity evolved alongside each other and in different ways. rabbinic jews turned into a crazy death cult who probably worship the literal devil. while pre-rabbinic jews were actually polytheistic, its right there in Genesis to this day
Kayden Powell
I think it's represent a better form of spirituality then the abrahamic line and go preaty well along classical philosophies if you are willing to let go of the judaic-christian notions of morality as dictated in both OT and NT.
Liam Turner
bookmarked
Josiah Sanchez
we can combine the best of these ideas and create something powerful that can crush relativistic jewish ideology.
Ethan Miller
PART 3:
>Being a dignified human but also following your beliefs:
Now you don't want to become what most of Jow Forums believes a pagan to be, (sweaty, oily, faggoty, degenerate.) So by doing this, you'll want to start working out, build up muscle like a real warrior, think of yourself as one of your ancestors. A brutal spartan, a raging gual, etc. And also, remember good posture.
Eat right too, stay off of fast food, pure junk food, etc. But it is okay once and a while to treat yourself to a simple can of Soda. Try to eat testosterone boosting foods such as steaks, pork, fish, etc.
Don't LARP by wearing stupid shit like vintage linen shirts, weird boots, or any of that. Wearing a necklace of something that signifies which part of Polytheism is fine, Mjolnir jewelry, runic symbol necklaces, and other things like that are great. Just don't go overboard with it.
Remember, degeneracy is NEVER Okay, always stay away from the filth that could get into your life. Find a nice woman that are in the same race as yours, and spread your offspring, teach them the ways of religion and life of new and old.
Michael Scott
Christianity isn't a stoic philosophy. It has been the dominant religion for a long time of stoic nations though. This can make it appear to be a stoic doctrine but if you take the fundamentalist route and appeal to only certain things like the Bible as canon, then its clearly a quasi-communist judaic philosophy.
Dylan Myers
>Skipping over the past 1,500 years of Europe's ...
Christianity was a start from scratch after ~12,000 years of built up knowledge about the universe since we were monkeys, fuck off david
Jackson Butler
Nordic mythology is all the white man need to guide him
Easton Garcia
This, praying to skyshit is so cucked and cringey. Real "Pagans" understand that sky people is a jewish invention.
Blake Turner
Jesus literally preached stoicism you fucking leaf
Robert Gutierrez
Colton Nguyen
I agree with you that just looking for masculinity is a waste without the spiritual guidance that can come from religion, although I disagree with you about Christianity being the only answer
Dylan Perez
A major mistake a lot of people here make about Christianity is that it's Jewish. Religion throughout history has had little to do with purely ethnic ties and more so on the primary philosophy and schools of thought in approaching how to both worship God and create a civilization that brings Heaven to Earth. This isn't to say ethnicity isn't important. Go back 60 years and you'll see blacks and whites both as Christian but still keeping separate.
The Bible paints Jews as corrupt and treacherous. The book of Romans talks about how Christians are not and do not have to be genetic descendants of Abraham. Rather that Christianity was the next evolutionary stage in curing the corruption of Jewish spirituality. Paul even talks about how Jews back then didn't want to follow the faith out of devoutness but instead wanted to find loopholes and do the bare minimum. This was the world Jesus sought to correct.
In other words, Jewishness was the problem plaguing people and Jesus was the man who fought against the established order. It is a logical deduction that modern Jews are those who remain part of the corrupt order and want to bring back its return, hence why Jews are always vilified by Europeans.
Ryan White
>Paganism has been a very hippy liberal movement up until only very recently
It's usually Wicca fags.
Colton Howard
anthropomorphizing these ideas is not some crazy idea
Andrew Brown
No he didn't. Stoicism is about cultivating virtue through philosophy and self-restraint. Jesus preached about virtue being found in obedience and promised everlasting life/pleasure. Teaching people to embrace ignorance for sensational gain is the exact opposite of stoicism.
Oliver Perez
>Christianity is what originally united the white race
What a fucking moronic thing to say
Xavier Ross
>Christianity is what originally united the white race
Jaxon Gray
New converts make the most zealous disciples. While I think christianity is the truth, I will recommend looking into roots such as paganism for my staunchly atheist 'friends'.
Perhaps this is a mistake, but I think it better to give them an objective moral foundation than simply have them neglect their soul for materialism.
Xavier Collins
Decidedly pagan, I know it speaks to me right now but I cannot figure out if it is anglo saxon heatheanry or Celtic polytheism that I should follow. I have ancestry in both.
Alexander Fisher
I didn't mean anthropomorphising natural forces was jewish, I meant them losing all meaning and degenerating into a sky man you can ask to solve your problems was jewish
Luke King
That picture is pointless. You're focusing on one area of history and not the more immediately relevant past 1,000 years of European history that still echoes to modern day. You're ignoring Isaac Newton, a devout theologian who discovered calculus in his early 20s, European exploration of the New World and all the relevant empires of that time, etc. Pic related's construction began 500 years ago. Did vikings really circumnavigate anything? Did they really explore any new mystical lands that weren't in continental Europe? Your picture only convinces idiots.
Benjamin Ortiz
Good on you user, I agree however as an American I am far from the land of my ancestors.
Parker Lewis
the point is that it's a religion based around a Jew fulfilling Jewish prophecies in fucking Palestine
if God ever incarnated on Earth, why not as a Roman or Greek? why a circumcised goatfucker?
Christianity may be be Jewish now, but it's based on Jewish mythology, not European
John Richardson
We talkin the folklore or are we talkin actual Gods and stuff that they worshipped(in terms of "religion")?
Cause we do know the Gods, their pantheon is pretty big, the "High God" I'm pretty sure is Lugh.
I'd suggest reading up on some of the stuff that's known about Celtic Druidism it's pretty cool shit, could definitely reform it into a solid religious belief today.
Jack Nelson
Maybe see if any individual elements speak to you, and start with that. My beliefs started forming through a series of events about 15 years ago, and have built up over time. Read a lot of myths and I also recommend a book called "The Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell, as he goes over why we tell myths and how they are relevant to us. It can really help you understand our ancestor's beliefs - especially because we do not have a religious figurehead to impart this knowledge on us in our everyday life - and so we must go searching for it. Good luck on your journey, user
James Moore
Yeah you're pretty far away from Africa
Hudson Robinson
To be fair, neither Jewish, nor Christian Theology believes you can do that either. Although I will admit that the concepts have been perverted in the last couple hundred years and modern man thinks that is possible
Ayden Perez
>Buddha is some brown Indian looking guy
>somehow becomes the inseparable spiritual figurehead of almost all Asian nations despite not looking Chinese or Japanese
>Jesus wasn't nordic
>therefore we need to steamroll all of European history
???
Aiden Lee
>Did they really explore any new mystical lands that weren't in continental Europe
Yeah, North America. They found that before Columbus. The Colosseum was created, Most of the Roman Republic. Just because the Frisians and Saxons didn't build everything out of pure marble from Northern Eurasia doesn't mean they didn't have anything. Of course, Issac Newton would have more success in creating something then a warmongering Scandinavian.
Watch this video about the dying off of Strength of Europe and the dying off of Whites along with it via Christianity, its not too long.
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Oliver Cooper
i am kind of a Pagan mutt
>goddess (main) from Ancient Egypt
>power animal from South/Central America
>another goddess from Hindu mythology
>another goddess from Buddhism
Christcucks will deny and ridicule this, but Paganism is basically the real TRUTH of the spirit realm and beyond. Christianity is just a bunch of LARPing of vague scripture that could be interpreted a million ways. Paganism is basically translating the spirit world into the human language, as to understand who you are, where you're from, and who could help you in this life (your spirit guides, spirit animal, god/goddess).
I also think Odin is sort of guiding me cuz i had a Crow's feather on my altar for years and just realized i always had a fond respect for Crows/Ravens. but he hasn't shown himself to me in other way.
Christopher Sullivan
Thanks user but aren't brits both Celtic and Germanic
Luis Allen
What is a good reference or book regarding Celtic Druidism?
Angel Walker
oh, you mean the sparse colonies that soon were abandoned? Wow, that sure is a triumph. The Spanish empire's activity in the Americas in the name of Christ mogs their tool shed villages, sorry.
Jeremiah Lopez
Interesting, user. Why is the Goddess your main diety? It's a different attitude than someone who has a God (masculine energy) as their main Diety. I view my God and Goddess as equal, the Masculine and Feminine energies being necessary together, like yin and yang
Luke Wright
No, the image is trying to say that most of Christian history in trying to spread its religion has been very brutal against many actual White Europeans. I know not all religions are going to get to people through peace and love but when your religion's history of spreading to people has been just raping, murdering, and sacking peoples villages and countries and then say how those previous religions were all terrible and barbaric for doing the same thing that yours just did seems in a way kinda hypocritical.
Chase Lewis
>Picking and choosing different muh goddesses from different lands
Kek you're the kind of person that makes christians think all non-abrahamists are fucking nuts. You've wandered quite a bit from pinterest, go back home
Aaron Gomez
>brits both Celtic and Germanic
In a way yes, just like how many Germans are part Nordic. Saxons during the Bronze age were usually nomadic and traveled into early Britania which would later cause the term Anglo-Saxon for early Brits. Celtic people were usually Northern and Western populaces such as the Picts in Scotland and Ireland. They followed practically the same thing so yeah you could bunch both Brits and Celts together.
Carter Lopez
>Christianity is just vague nonsense
>so I instead follow my own personal vague interpretations
Can you link me a water tight pagan religious text that is not vague in the slightest or are you just bullshitting?
Thomas James
I mean, it was better than nothing. The Natives told them to like you know just leave them alone and they alright whatever and took some spices jewelry and went back to Scandinavia.
Parker Brooks
because she came to me after years of asking and praying. first, she brought me her helper (later on I learned it is my power/spirit animal). and then I realized that this animal is sent to me by her, because it is 100% related through Egyptian Mythology. and lastly, I realized it is who I am inside-this animal. It was a 2 fold realization: 1) this animal is either who I am at my core, or 2) it is who I am destined to become-my ultimate purpose and dream in this life.
it doesn't get clearer than that. it took me years to figure it all out, and it was after i built my altar and burnt candles on it each day. so you gotta put some effort into it. your god/goddess won't just come to you. i think you have to ask it. at least that's been my experience.
Jacob Moore
Because God had no name like the gods of Romans or Greeks when He showed Himself.
Also if you read the Bible God has a tendency to show up in places where it's not very popular. Like Nazareth. Rome was a big empire but Judea was a small colony in Mediterranean.
Pagans were worshipping their vices and sex degeneracy was a big issue in Rome and Greece.
modern Transgenderism and two spirited crap is basically formation of our modern paganism.
However not all pagans if your read works of great philosophers all come to conclusion that God is beyond the tree or sun that you worship. Now Jews knew this too. If you read acts if the apostles you see the Greeks had a statue for the "unknown God" God that Socrates, Plato and Aristotle had in mind. Christianity fused it all together very nicely and made a better philosophy. If Christianity was something foreign our ancestors they wouldn't have adopted as their culture
Xavier Flores
do you know that syncretism and the worship of gods of different lands wasn't uncommon on classical times and that gods are not restrict to ethinic groups(like (((they))) preach), right ?
Blake Richardson
i'm not picking and chosing
learn 2 read before you reply
>main goddess from Egypt
>other gods could come and help you out in your journey in different things you need in life
you could have many gods who are drawn to you etc.. but you'll have 1 main one. just like your power animal. Christcucks are so closed minded. this is why I always hated Christianity at its core. it's always MUH BIBLE. this is why so many call you Jews. because you are just like them with their Judaism.
Christopher Brown
I am a Platonist, so I don't follow any pantheon. I collect classic works and realize how important it has been for the development of the West and I believe in the rational "theology" of Plato.
Isaiah Ortiz
Paganism is reconnecting with your life purpose, yourself, and getting information from the spirit world directly.
now go back to reading your Bible, thinking you know or understand anything. no one gives a shit.
Luis Bennett
>However not all pagans if your read works of great philosophers all come to conclusion that God is beyond the tree or sun that you worship
no pagan worships a tree, just like no Christian worships a cross
the cross is just a piece of wood or metal, it's a SYMBOL
the tree is the same thing
stop being intentionally retarded
Ian Sanchez
Checked
Landon Reyes
why are you making shit up? Colonies require established empires with good supply lines and bountiful resources.
Europe at that time was just various small disjointed tribes. Obviously the colonies didn't survive because
1) they were too far away from Europe
2) the founders lacked real dedicated supply lines
3) it wasn't made by an imperial power, so a real colonization effort is an afterthought in comparison to immediate life and necessities in the homeland such as the enemies you're surrounded by
Jace Stewart
>tree is a symbol?
Symbol of what
Benjamin Ramirez
>Pagans were worshipping their vices and sex degeneracy was a big issue in Rome and Greece.
This was a huge issue in the Old Testament as well, though. God is always smiting one generation or another for forgetting His rules
Zachary Nguyen
>Paganism is reconnecting with your life purpose, yourself, and getting information from the spirit world directly.
Literally what the fuck are you saying? You're just admitting you're following your own vague interpretations.
And information directly from the spirit world? What are you, Danny Phantom? Point me to some specific non-vague Pagan texts on how to be Pagan that aren't full of metaphors and poetic language.
Liam Lopez
This is exactly what I am trying to do. I wonder though, if you live it is it degenerate to tatoo pagan symbolism on yourself?
Benjamin Kelly
>why are you making shit up
What am I making? I do not deny that they didn't have the most significant and mightest fucking villages, I'm saying that they had some shit down for a few months, got told to leave and left.
>1) they were too far away from Europe
2) the founders lacked real dedicated supply lines
3) it wasn't made by an imperial power, so a real colonization effort is an afterthought in comparison to immediate life and necessities in the homeland such as the enemies you're surrounded by
I'm not fighting on this.
Ian Richardson
Marvel a shit. Batman rules.
Eli Wood
life itself
it's growing and reaching higher and higher, but it also needs strong roots that go deep into the ground
it's also alive, growing and expanding, experiencing and changing
we believe in reincarnation, we are literally our ancestors reborn
Christianity/Judaism destroy this by cutting them down, thus severing us from our past
they want to sever us from our past to literally create a new race of consumers and androgynous materialists
the first humans were Askr (ash tree) and Embla (elm tree)
the first humans in the Bible is made from dirt
Jose Sanchez
Stupid hobby
Juan Reyes
what does tree symbolize?