Even if free energy were real, there were Star Trek replicators that could make infinite perfect copies of anything, intergalactic travel with infinite planets to inhabit, and robots to do all the labor, Communism still wouldn't work.
Capitalism will never die.
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i always find it strange that people always assume star trek is communistic because they had no money
no communist state ever abolished their central bank
also Captain Picard always stressed it was self control that kept a ship in order, not threats of violence. So coms on the Enterprise have no security locks
Hardly capitalism though since there is no usury
Have you read the culture series?
No, but fiction is no indication of reality.
If you like Star Trek, and you like Trump, here's a remade star trek original series where kirk comes back to current times, and gets the same treatment trump did. Like Trump, kirk wasn't amused.
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Replicators couldn't make everything. They weren't totally post scarcity.
That said if you can replicate a replicator, a fusion power plant and a means to purify fuel, then they are on easy steak.
>Hardly capitalism though since there is no usury
The two have little to do with each other.
>Replicators couldn't make everything. They weren't totally post scarcity.
Missing the point entirely.
A jewish NEET can't invent a fully working socioeconomic system for modern societies alone in his basement hundreds of years ago. This is a huge surprise.
>It was the Ferengi
It was the space jews
We have a working economic system.
It's called capitalism.
I was talking about (((Marx))).
Yeah, I know. Just looking for an excuse to bump the thread.
threadly reminder that space doesn't exist
>Good goy, there are no other options. You will live under our One World Order. We own the entire world, so don't even consider the possibility of leaving to another one.
usury is not capitalist it's jewish
But they did have currency. Credits.
Star Trek externalizes all human faults to external races.
The races become tropes for the antisocial ingroups that would make a united Earth impossible.
Star Trek invented cartoonish villains you're allowed to hate, while pretending to be high minded and socially evolved.
This thread isn't supposed to be about Star Trek goddamn it.
Communism could not exist in a true space-faring civilization because keeping order among planets or space stations is impossible when anyone can just fuck off and start their own colony somewhere else. Communism needs to keep people in, space lets us be free.
There is absolutely no reason that replicators couldn't make anything if they could literally teleport people and keep them alive.
At the moment you can teleport, you can literally form any matter in the universe.
interstellar transhumanist technocratic philosopher-republicanism is literally the only way forward.
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Post scarcity is a meme. Every time a resource becomes effectively infinity a new, novel use is found for it. When oil became abundant we started making cars. When hard drive space in the early 90s became effectively infinite for text we started storing pictures, music, and videos. When 56k internet made text based pages load instantly we started making pages with pictures, music, and videos. When the internet made information and news effectively free we started using the massive data collected on the internet to train machine learning algorithms. There will never be a post scarcity because the energy in the universe is finite so there will always be something bigger to do.
well ya fucked up talking about Star Trek a bunch and using a picture of the Enterprise.
But really we need to become the Ba'Ku
What about when we start mining asteroids?
Socialism works when you can turn nothing into food.
The thread is stupid.
I'm dropping a redpill about spergs sacred cow dogshit programming that has warped their ideas of future utopian societies.
The future is whatever the strong want it to be. If communists bash in more brains than capitalists, it will be communist until the brain bashing tally is reversed.
That's why this flat earth shit gets pushed so heavily. It's part of a test to see how easy it is to convince people that leaving Earth is physically impossible. It's also the reason any space travel tech needs to use rockets to get government funding. Fuel dependence significantly restricts practical travel distance
Commies talk a lot of shit but are largely incompetent. They're really not a threat. The most myopic capitalists are the ones causing the real problems.
Well some things are just a matter of physics. For example you can't have a replicator produce fully charged batteries. The energy has to come from somewhere.
idiot, they want you to think you are living on a tiny ball in a vast universe
That's a terrible example. All it would mean is that it'd probably just take more energy to create a charged battery than a discharged battery. And as I said in the OP, we're working under the assumption that there's free energy has been discovered.
Because Star Trek isnt actual communism, its a weird system where basic needs are met.
But luxury items actually have value and are traded with currency.
Also, all it would take for me go die for the intergalactic nosenberg federation with a smile is the chance of fucking a hot blue or green skinned alien babe.
>fucking a hot blue or green skinned alien babe
we will be able to make those within 20 years m8y
Why? What's there to gain from tricking you into thinking that? In a vast universe with countless Earth-like planets to move to it means there's the option to eventually flee the planet if it gets insufferable. The same reason they want the world under a single government, if people decided they didn't like one country and decided they could have it better in another, they could try to immigrate. Erasing the borders opens the floodgates, making one country just as shitty as any other, eliminating the point of there being different countries, eliminating the choice.
The flat earth propaganda is less about the shape of the Earth, and more about seeing how many people will accept the idea that the Earth is covered in some kind of firmament-like barrier that makes it physically impossible to leave, or at least leave alive.
Yep. And winners are drawn toward capitalism disproportionately. The strong men in a communist society take it over, naturally. Hence communism immediately ceases to be communism - and becomes dictatorship... before finally failing anyway and becoming oligarchy.
The American system is a republic, designed extremely well with checks and balances. It is actually amazing to see how fucked America can get at times, and still level out. The only thing we can’t recover from is losing the white genetics that invented it. America was made by whites for whites. Anyone else will just want to usurp it for short term gain. The hordes cannot into planning.
>fucking a hot blue or green skinned alien babe
And in the end, is that not what man has dreamt since first he looked up at the stars?
Still waiting on hearing why anyone would want to trick people into thinking the world is round.
to cut you off from god. they are all satanists
Do you have an answer that isn't retarded?
>Capitalism will never die.
Capitalism, for the most part, has been existed for a few thousand years. And not everywhere, but only in certain densely populated areas.
And our society has pretty much given up on capitalism lately, or does anyone actually think the free market really sets prices based on demand and supply these days?
Star trek wasn't communist though, and replicators couldn't make everything even in TNG and voyager
you would need to be an alpha chad and smart af.
They aren't interested in nigger behavior.
Its existed since the dawn of man
Youre a dumb ass faggit
>He thinks capitalism is about supply and demand for the people
No dude, people dont want to reject capitalism because they dont want to reject their easy lifes and imported avocado toasts
You can live in prison for free...
Don't americans use their prisoners as slave labor?
Luckilly I am functioning enough to manage that. Also, do Aliens read mein Kampf?
>Don't americans use their prisoners as slave labor?
Nah, we gave-up trying to get black people to do manual labor once we ended slavery.
>he thinks it isn't
Oh Hans, why do you keep trying to change reality
Because it already changed, thats too deep for you Mountain jew
free energy is real. star trek replicators already exist
the federation is a working socialist state
>star trek replicators already exist
There are some pretty impressive commercial-grade 3D printers, but there aren't any replicators yet.
I wouldn't call them socialist any more than the crew of a navy.
or i should say, more accurately, the federation is like the soviet union, a collection of socialist states
They are not communist, as there is still centralized government and the lack of the heavy local self sufficiency that communism requires. They still produce things in one location, and transfer them to others. While their replicators exist, they run on energy, their reactors need special minerals which are mined. There is still scarcity of certain fundamental things in most locations which must be provided by other locations.
They are firmly an example of a socialist union which has eliminated capitalist interference, but have not reached the communist stage yet.
The Q are communist
Yeah what changed is the fact that we are not living in a capitalist society anymore. You can't be capitalist and allow monopolies. We are living in a post-capitalist world. Probably called corporatism.
>you can't be capitalist and allow monopolies
the progression of capitalism is literally a race to obtain monopoly and then stamp out competition
>he thinks I reply to meme flags with actual arguments
Fuck off commie hahaha
>The Q are communist
Lol, this nigga.
Based
The Soviet Union fell for the same reason every Communist government falls: dependence on a host. Communists are like parasites, they need to leech off of a host because they're incapable of taking care of themselves. The Soviet Union collapsed because the hosts were internal, constantly being shipped off to gulags. China's lasted as long as it has because it leeches off of foreign countries to sustain itself. If the US and other major countries cut-off China it would collapse, despite having everything it needs to be self-sufficient, but like any parasite, they're killing the host in the process. Once its host countries die, so will China.
>Capitalism will never die.
Correct. It's the most important rule of acquisition.
>the same reason every Communist government falls
yes, CIA subversion
Fortunately best korea and china have figured out how to counter it. Its a process learning from your mistakes :^)
The people in your scenario wouldn't need a host, though.
They would just have everything they needed.
Capitalism as we know it would collapse.
if you run the replicators too much you'll run out of trillium
also there are some objects that it cant replicate
The form of government in Star Trek's Federation isn't Communism. It's a benign military dictatorship run by Starfleet. Every aspect of Federation life is controlled by Starfleet. Sure, there's an elected Federation Council and president. And part of the reason all this is even possible is because all the stupid people died in the Eugenics Wars in their 1990's. And on top of that, while some of the top genetically modified people fled the planet, a fuck ton more stayed behind and interbred with normal humans. Which gave them people like James Kirk who was winning fist fights with Klingons in his 50's.
The people in my scenario wouldn't need a host, but they also wouldn't need Communism. And the technological advancement needed to get to the scenario never comes from Communism, technological advancement comes from Capitalism. If a Capitalistic nation like the US developed these technologies, there'd be no reason for them to adopt Communism in the first place.
I know, please read the thread.
You put the fucking Enterprise in the OP pic and typed the words "Star Trek." On the internet. On a Mongolian throat singing forum. What in fuck did you think would happen?
I expected to be able to trick some Trekkies into bumping my thread, and it worked.
I could have sworn I had a Ferengi Jew pic somewhere.
I wonder (((who))) was behind this post
Here you go
Thanks.
The real commies are the Borg.