There is no point sending your children to Eton because education is in your genes, says geneticist

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> Sending children to private schools like Eton is a waste of time because academic success is written in the genes meaning youngsters would do just as well at the local comprehensive, a leading scientist has claimed.

> Robert Plomin, Professor of Behavioural Genetic at King’s College London, said he and his team had spent decades trying to unpick how much of achievement in education was down to nature or nurture.

> He concluded that 50 per cent of academic success is due to genes, but they are yet to discover what accounts for the other half. What they do now know, however, is it is not due to schooling or upbringing.

> Studies have shown that adopted twins with the same genetics do just as well academically even if they have had vastly different education or parents.

> Although selective schools like Eton achieve higher grades, it is the selection process itself which accounts for the difference, and that same cohort would achieve the same marks if sent to a state school, Prof Plomin argues.

> Speaking at The Hay Festival, he said: “Do differences in the quality of school make a difference in outcomes like GCSE scores or getting into universities?

> “There’s a correlation there – kids who go to selective schools have a GCSE score that is one full grade higher than kids who go to comprehensive schools.

> “But if you correct for what the schools selected on, there’s no difference in GCSE scores. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you select the very best kids academically, yes they go on and do well. But have you added value? The answer is no.

> Eton currently costs more than £40,000-a-year and 19 of Britain’s Prime Ministers were educated at the school.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/02/no-point-sending-children-eton-education-genes-says-geneticist/

How long until leftists start to accept the reality that equality is a false god and start advocating for "socially correcting genetic inequality through socialism"?

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School isn't for education it's for making connections and being indoctrinated.

fpbp

It won’t be long before mainstream scientists start openly acknowledging genetic racial differences in intelligence. Eugenics may be making a comeback

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Robert Plomin sounds like a complete plum. Kings College sould sack him for such a slow pace and underwhelming conclusion.

Retarded, ask any EA and they will tell ya that children learn best if different ways. I.E some learn better through visualization and others learn better through auditory means... Genes are not the only determinant of Intelligence.

No shit. Eton and the like are about networking. Being part of the old boys gives more chance of success.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5985927/
He obviously does not worry too much about robust stastitical proof. A missing 40% is considered an acceptable variance.

The key thing is they ruled out that being accounted for by education or upbringing. It doesn't matter how much money we waste on dem programs. It has and will make no difference.

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>Eton
Huh?

>and that same cohort would achieve the same marks if sent to a state school,
Now that I find really hard to believe. Send one of these kids to a public school in downtown Detroit and see if they perform exactly as well as they do elsewhere.

It ised to be for education. We wanted doctors, engineers and other types to have a baseline amount of knowledge in their fields before advancing to hands-on practice. Later, it served as an IQ proxy when the federal government banned IQ testing because it was deemed "racist". A high school diploma used to mean someone was functionally literate and could perform basic arithmetic, but eventually primary schools were deemed racist because not enough brown people were passing, so the standards were lowered so more could graduate. Then colleges were deemed racist because here are these brown kids with high school diplomas, but not enough are being admitted, and then that turned into "but not enough are graduating". So the standards were lowered and brown people were taught how to use spellcheck and grammar-check, snd how to pick the best answer out of a 4-choice multiple choice exam, and now more and more brown people of low intelligence are receiving honorary degrees. Now the work force is racist because not enough "qualified" brown people are getting jobs, after all they have the same resume as the White graduates.

Eton is an extremely elite boarding school in England, it costs £40,000 p/a to send your kid there.

he's probably right. it's why blacks are bad regardless of their income level

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BUUULLLL SHIT
I am a poorfag and my daughter isn't even in highschool yet and already at GCSE level but has to be held back because 'no child left behind' means everyone has to be at the retard level until everyone is caught up.

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Face it; much of what you are is determined by genetics. A lot of people don't want to know that truth for several reasons. One is that it means there is very little you can do to change your IQ, either up or down. So much for Baby Einstein and those stupid brain games they claim improve your memory or make you smarter. Severe malnutrition and lead poisoning are a couple things that can lower it substantially. People hate to think they have no control over what they are, but when it comes to something like IQ, you really don't. Just luck of the draw.
But even if your kids are high IQ, don't send them to shit schools thinking it won't matter. You want them associating with as few undesirables as possible, and making as many positive connections with helpful (wealthy, high IQ) people as possible.

This theory has been disproven. It's just bullshit the schools use to score more government funding and also something people who are low IQ tell themselves to make themselves feel better. "I didn't fail because I'm not smart; I failed because I wasnt catered to with my appropriate 'learning style'." Sad cope really

I sort of agree. I was one of those kids who got "home schooled", but my parents didn't actually teach me anything and I just sort of did nothing. (they learned about "unschooling" later, and revised the fact that they originally planned on actually teaching me to cover up their own screw up) I still naturally taught myself a lot of stuff, and graduated college with highest honors. But it took a lot of time for that to kick in. I was a bit of a dumbass until around 15/16 when I started getting smarter. Most schoolwork before this age was of minimal value, and I don't think I remembered any of it.

Looking at schools from the outside, I'm sort of amazed at how worthless they are. It's like they're designed to steal as much time as possible while giving as little education or benefits to justify the immense loss in agency. The main problem with not sending kids to school is that our social conditions aren't ripe enough for children to go play out in the streets and make friends like that. You have to keep them safe, indoors. Applying that to home schooled children gets you people like me who are too socially isolated to relate even to people on Jow Forums. It's fucking bizarre what loneliness does to the mind. It strengthens your mind, gives it clarity, yet it's so painful. In the morning, you lie in bed for hours because there's nothing worthwhile to expend energy on. But I guess I'm starting to get off topic; no one's interested in a blogposting faggot.

> Sending children to private schools like Eton is a waste of time because academic success is written in the genes meaning youngsters would do just as well at the local comprehensive, a leading scientist has claimed.

>Send white high IQ kids to schools dominated by niggers and shitskins
>Get bullied and called an ugly racist white boy constantly
>Can't do any work because niggers always picking on you
>Teachers don't do anything about the bullying, but encourage it by doing nothing
>Teachers always calling you to come up to the board to do things because you're the only one smart enough to be able to accomplish something
>Grades start to go bad because you don't care about school anymore, due to all the bullying and teachers picking on you all the time
>School administration picks on you all the time about why you're doing so bad in school
>Leftist parents telling you how you're wrong about everything and it's just a part of growing up. Just teenage angst
>Niggers call you racist even when you didn't even do anything to them, get called to the principles office and disciplined for being "racist" and lectured about white privilege
>Get stabbed by a nigger or shitskin, end up months in the hospital recovering. No one gets arrested or charged for it, even when you know who the perp is. You are treated as the instigator and the person that stabbed you as the victim
>Fail highschool because you're unable to function in such conditions

Yeah, send your kids to public school goyim. Don't send them to private school where your kids will be with like minded people and achieve greater things and accomplish many things. It's racist. They will have the same success if you send them to a school full of niggers, sandniggers and variety of shitskins.

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Nothing red pills like state school. It's bourgeoisie cultural elites who go to private school who haven't had to associate with niggers who end up becoming left wing"academics"

Somewhat. Academic success has been dragged down in the US thanks to this. Due to a high rate of failures in the 90s, we've lowered the bar for many things and now we have generation after generation of complete fucking morons with academic credentials.

lol niggers btfo

yeah no joke it's about networking and prestige

>I was a bit of a dumbass until around 15/16 when I started getting smarter. Most schoolwork before this age was of minimal value, and I don't think I remembered any of it.
Spoiler: everyone who went to public school had this exact same experience

Exactly, a simple comparison between Eton and any public school graduates would show this. How many Eton graduates went on to be homeless or on the dole?

I went to university with a lot of Eton guys.

They weren't smart or better than those from other schools.

But I noticed that they were very good at lying and pretending.

Did they bugger one another? Did they bugger you?

So what do we tell dumbasses in sociology that keep insisting there is no such thing as genetic factors?

Seriously, these people turn every single one of these discussions into a witch hunt for nazis.

they send them there for networking not "success"

That isn't quite what this researcher is saying.

It's more that you can't turn dumbasses into smart people by rubbing them up against smart people, now you'll guffaw and say you already knew this and wasn't it oh so obvious (it is) but it's important to be able to qualify this to normies in ways they understand.

I dunno, I dropped out of school, took online courses, and did much much better, now run my own business. I had social anxiety tho so maybe that was part of it.

yeah no shit
most of the British parliament is made up of these geniuses, including 100% of Remainers

IT'S DNA!! BUT WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHICH GENES ARE RESPONSIBLE

I'M SUPERIOR

IGNORE IQ TESTS IF THE HIGH SCORE IS FROM THE DIRTY AREAS, THEY WEREN'T BREED LIKE ME THEY NEED AT LEAST 5 GENERATIONS OF INCEST AND OLD MONEY BEFORE WE REGULATED COMMON BUSINESS

DON'T EVEN TRY YOU PLEBS ITS ALL IN THE BREEDING
YOU DIRTY COMMONERS STILL OWE MY FAMILY MONEY SO THEY WOULD STOP SELLING SLAVES WHICH YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU RACISTS

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really?

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That’s retarded because I have a twin brother and we were raised together hes a normalfag and got all As and Bs while I was a lazy piece of shit and got mostly Cs and now he’s making 80k a year while I’m a NEET

what is eton

> Thinking private school is about the education.

fpbp

This is actually a clever way to get "intelligence is genetic" into the public consciousness.
Leftists will spread this meme like wildfire because it applies to the elites.

maybe your mom shouldnt have fucked the mailman then

I believe some of the other 50% have to do with the environment in which a child is. If you have a bad environment, you will hardly study or have the willpower to achieve anything with value. Only select individuals with high perseverance could endure.
If it were green text it would be Also the reason why Eastern Europe sucks to some degree.

If you both took an IQ test you'd probably have very similar results. Your motivation to succeed is independent of your intellect. It's actually been shown that motivated lower IQ people generally do better in career outcomes than unmotivated higher IQ people - a silver lining for the genetic lottery losers. Your genetic potential won't carry you to success if you'd rather play video games and fap all day.

What are you even on about

Yep

Even the gifted programs are (in fact, mine was far more militant regarding following orders to the Z and pushing you down a single path of intelligentsia).

I'm not surprised there's so many brainwashed globohomo millennials out there, as I went through the same shit, but unlike most of them, I'm one of the lucky ones born with individuality.

Exactly, the scientist is an autist who took the education meme at face value. The successful aren't successful because of nature OR nurture, they're successful because their old schoolfriend Charles Fortesque-Smythe got them a flush sinecure at daddy's merchant bank.

> tfw I was as autistic as him once
> got into Cambridge as one of their token poorfag applicants
> studied super-hard and ended up top of my class
> only after I left did I realise I'd totally missed the fucking point
> should have spent my time not studying but instead drinking with Theodore and William as the fast track to fabulous wealth

But at least it only took me until 25 to realise my error, this guy's what, 50?

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the bigger and stronger twin takes most of the resources up in the womb.

We’re physically the same he’s just a normalfag while I’m a loser posting in this faggy anime sharing website

stop watching anime

but eton schools aren't ''good''.
In the past they were full of pedos.
Now they are full of non-white and pedos.
They aren't good schools.
Etons isn't about anything except repeating the same failed status quo.
The hope, and the reality, did not connect, because the hard work of realistic practicality was not met.

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Should have went to MIT like me faggot. Education is for learning actual skills, not sucking richfag cock. Intelligence means jack shit unless you develop a very powerful skillset.
Right now there's more power in technology than you could have ever got from jerking off frat boys. Technology is the reason we're beating them. They spent their time being indoctrinated. I spent my time hacking and learning EE. They are still useless fucks. I am not.

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Seems that you both are NPC-c but the scripts are different.

>but eton schools
How many?

You don't send your kids to Eton and Harrow for the grades. You send them there for the teaching and culture that instills massive self-confidence in them. There are far fewer students per teacher compared to most schools and those teachers do a lot more than just robotically reading out the curriculum to students and teaching them how to pass exams. The teachers can have more one-to-ones with the students, get them involved in extracurricular activities and properly mentor them. Aside from the dropouts, ex Etonians and Harrovians have chad like confidence, even when it's completely unearned. The two schools are politician factories for a reason.
Kids also get to network early on in a group where some of the richest and most powerful people in the country will eventually emerge. So even the thick as shit kids will have an easier ride, because they were school chums with a gang of senior partners and QCs. That networking combined with huge self confidence gives them a real advantage in later life.

It's a class signifier. In the US our class system is more subtle so we need college education as a signifier.

Your class system doesnt seem more subtle. It's income and wealth based.
The British class system is more about heritage and cultural values than money. Granted, these were developed on the back of money.

The accent difference between classes here is much less obvious. Also John Major and Nigel Farage both were successful without a college education which is only really possible in America for entertainers. Overall you're right though. Norman surnames have a 10% income edge over non-Norman English even now.

School like this isn't for education, it's for networking

It’s all for nothing though, because your country is soon to become part of the Islamic caliphate. Wearing a suit and dressing like an aristocrat whilst spending 30,000 pounds a year for the privilege is just modern day equivalent of LARPing. Your education has already failed you to the point of handing over your country to foreigners. Confidence won’t mean jack shit when you’re a dhimmi forced to pay jizya to your brown 80 master. Eton serves only as an anachronistic reminder of a Britain that is deceased.

*80 IQ

Introducing you to Eton Highschool with your favorite characters:

The Jew as the traitor
The Hapa as the quirky one
The Beta as the future trannie
The Normie as the /pollack/
And the Chad as the ultimate being

Eton and similar schools have 2 main advantages:

(1) Everyone who attends have rich parents, so it's a great way to network for future careers.
(2) Even if you're dumb, these schools instill so much self-confidence in pupils that with connections from (1) they can still have great lives.

It would never go that far, but it's likely that the demographic change will severely stunt us for a century.
White anglos are capable of brutality if pushed, even if we have an ostrich mentality at times.

You forgot the part where it costs £30,000 to send your kid to Eton for a year. You are literally born into money if you attend.

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also this

>intelligence is genetic
Sorry for the shoah-ing you are about to receive, 'leading scientist' person.

Hah mate it’s more. My parents forked out closer to 40grwnd a year.
It increases by almost a grand every year. It’s too expensive for the Landed gentry now, hence older establishments have become overrun with chinks.
As a aside note I have a funny feeling that ex-Public school wankers like me make up a disproportionate amount of Jow Forums (considering how many there are of us)

For all the Americans in this thread British call their private schools public schools and call their public schools grammar schools.

Why are private schools called puic there?

Yeah what are you on about? I'm a mailman and I make about 70k

>connections
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>face it
Face it: most of the shit you’re saying has no scientific backing whatsoever

Because we‘re registered charities. We don’t pay tax kek
^ is me btw
Also the Connections bit is so true I wasn’t bad at it but there were some guys who were unbelievable. Chad who you can’t help but like and want to help out.

Charging 40k a year for a service is charity in the UK? Wow. That's some next level jewery there.

Socialism is still good because it gives white people free housing and benefits to start a family. All we need is to deport nogs
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This is bullshit
As someone who went to both a nog-filled public school/Academy, and a majority-white private school in the UK, sure your intelligence is unchanged, you are the same person, but the schools don't just make you smarter, they also teach you HOW to take exams, and the quality of education in private schools is significantly better, not to mention the opportunities, less nogs and overall better disciplined students.
If I had stayed in the academy, my grades would have been worse, without doubt

Hello stupid leaf. What you are describing is called 'learning styles'. It is pseudo-science based on another pseudo-science called 'multiple intelligence theory'. made up by Howard Gardner. This has been debunked to such an extent that the University of Cambridge had to write it out of some of their curriculum.

>Education is in your genes
sounds like something Plato would say.
sounds like something that will piss off the "equality" left-wing crowd, too.

Ding Ding Ding

Aye but it works. 40% of my year went to Oxbridge, and this is the lowest it’s been since 1381.
> in b4 “dumb rich kids”
They are all more intelligent than you with the exception of the Czech kid doing Czech and Slavonic studies at oxford. The classicists are fluent in Latin and disgusting at Greek, the mathematicians actually co-write papers while still at school with our teachers (about 1/2 of which have phds, the rest are just normal oxbridge grads)

If you can afford it, send ur kids there. It’ll toughen them up (well some schools might, malborough and wellington maybe not so much. inb4 comfy: it’s still shitty compared to day school)

Which one did you go to and what are you doing here lol

*nog-filled state school

The only thing I think can seriously affect mental capacity beyond IQ is how it was stimulated in the most formative years, i.e. as a baby, child, etc. A child who gets a lot of attention from his parents through reading, normal conversation, educational programs(primarily from parents), pattern recognition exercises and practical activities(helping dad do work around the house, even if it consists of him just being there while Dad does the work) or being introduced to cooking with mom(again, in a manner similar to "working" with Dad) will instill patterns and habits into him that are associated with high level mental activity. A kid who is read to every night and eventually reads with dad every night is going to be a lot better off, etc. Obviously won't make him jump from 100 to 140 IQ, but will indirectly teach him how to use his brain. Which is huge. I don't know if there's been scientific studies on that kind of thing, there really should be.

It's the IQ deniers who have been losing ground the past two decades. Scientists are close to finding individual genes for intelligence and certain behavioral traits. It's literally over, memeflag.

Day school? What's day school? Do kids go to school at night in the UK?

How spooky is the LSE?

Winchester. Coz I’m an autist.
Day school as opposed to boarding school which all the “elite” schools are.
I’ve heard that the teaching is shite and they don’t give a fuck about undergrads but give me a QRD on why it’s ‘spooky’ - typically our Asians go there not our upperclass.

There's something of a perception that it's sort of a spy school. In that regard it's a place where third world elites attend to become assets of MI6.

How was your experience like living there?
Was it like Harry Potter?

>King's college
Safe to ignore then

Read a study a while back about the advantages gained by students going to American ivy league schools was mostly due to makings social contacts that led to networking advantages later in life.

Ding ding ding ding

Also what was the name of your fag?

Kek it’s unbelievable how much Jow Forums actually knows. Every time I’m like nah Jow Forums doesn’t know shit, some autist post shit like this and I’m like damm. To answer ur question, yes we are. If you took Russian pre-u (like difficult a-levels) and did navy or RAF ccf (combined cadet force) and then went to oxbridge (for something like maths (or whatever lol) and Russian) you would get earmarked. Half way through ur second year at uni u will be approached, and discretely go through the selection process. We then go on to be CFOs and stuff and be corporate spies or we become ((ambassadors)) and run spy networks out of the embassy (this is how intelligence gathering actually works fyi). A lot of the kids at these schools are ambassadors kids or military kids who have the fees payed for by the government.
Uh sort of. It’s difficult to explain, but the scholars (collegemen as we call them) do where gowns like Harry Potter. And yes there are lots of secret rooms and old shit, from ww2 ss daggers to 3000 year old ming vases etc. Our museum has a lot of very old and valuable stuff.

I didn't know the mechanics of it to that extent, but it makes sense. I knew about the embassies as official cover, but everyone does that. From what I've been able to gather the British are the best at spying. Between their skills in espionage and control of offshore banking Britain retains much more power than it seems. I'm curious if there's anything else you're willing to say about tradecraft or if you just want to rant about The City of London.

What do you do?

lift, shitpost and look for a jerb

Tradecraft? The city of London? U lost me old boy!

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Tradecraft as in just spying shop-talk. That would be surveillance detection, dry cleans, etc.

Regarding The City of London this documentary is alright, but I suppose I was interested if you knew more about it's status as a state within a state as well as its soft power.
youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8

>Sending children to private schools like Eton is a waste of time because academic success is written in the genes meaning youngsters would do just as well at the local comprehensive, a leading scientist has claimed.
bullshit
if you have a shitty school and are surrounded by niggers and spics you get fucked educationally
both me and my brother are less educated than our parents, who grew up in a white America.

The entire point of schooling is to make friends and connections. Just being intelligent doesn't mean much. Jow Forums is proof of that.